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[QLD, NSW, VIC, SA] AGL Solar Savers - Solar Feed in Tariff 15¢ for The First 14kWh Per Day @ AGL

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[QLD, NSW, VIC, SA] AGL Solar Savers - Solar Feed in Tariff 15¢ for The First 14kWh Per Day @ AGL
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Lblob2004 on 22/05/2023 - 13:44 agl.com.au (610 clicks)
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Hi there!

I was comparing energy prices and noted AGL increased their plans to 15c FiT, which is fantastic as current best offer all hover around 12c FiT. It is only for the first 14kWh but would be perfect for small to medium solar systems.

My concern with AGL is if they would change your meter to a smart meter and add a demand charge without asking, or if they would change pricing in two months. They did mention they will have a pricing review in July/August and that the FiT would potentially change.

Switch to Solar Savers and get a 15c/kWh solar feed-in tariff for the first 14kWh of your daily export (averaged across the relevant billing period). For any export after that, you’ll get 5c/kWh.

This feed-in tariff can change from time to time and if they do, we will let you know no later than your next bill. Your inverter must not be over 10kW, and you must not be receiving a feed-in tariff under a government scheme. See full conditions for details.​

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  • wisc on 22/05/2023 - 13:47
    +2

    So a whole 42 cents different if other carriers have 12c fit? Is that per bill or per day?

    • Logical on 22/05/2023 - 14:48
      +2

      Per day

  • laudalashun on 22/05/2023 - 13:48
    +7

    But their supply charges and price per kwh is insane.

    • Guybrush57 on 22/05/2023 - 13:52
      +3

      Death to supply charges

      • Weadog on 22/05/2023 - 13:55

        what do you recommend which is similar but cheaper supply charges?

        • Monoclonal26 on 22/05/2023 - 14:05
          +3

          Check out PowerShop. See my comment below.
          But you need to look at how you use your power and ability to adjust your lifestyle to play the game.

          • GregFiona on 22/05/2023 - 14:44
            +1

            @Monoclonal26: SolarAnalytics suggested change to Powershop(13c FIT) from my current Red Energy deal(7c FIT). Requested the transfer today 🤞

        • Daddy74 on 22/05/2023 - 18:35
          +1

          Try ovo energy high feed in tarrif plan 14c for the first 4000kw and $10 credit every month you stay with them. I am in credit for the last 3 months switched from origin , which was paying 5c for the feed in

          • notauser on 22/05/2023 - 20:24

            @Daddy74: Did this, just be careful. They stopped sending bills about when I hit the 4000kw and that's when it stopped being good value - went from -$30/month to +$20

            • Weadog on 24/05/2023 - 14:13

              @notauser: please can you explain stopped sending bills about when i hit 4000kw?

          • Weadog on 24/05/2023 - 14:06

            @Daddy74: woah ovo has amazing prices how did you get the $10 per month as you stay with them

            • Daddy74 on 24/05/2023 - 15:28
              +1

              @Weadog: You need to call them up this deal is not on the website, it is a special offer from those annoying telemarketers , but I called them up and got it directly from them. I am still getting my bills after 3 months and still in $260 credit , can't comment on if anyone stopped getting bills. I did get a email from them last month that they are updating their system but so far so good.

    • AsukaST on 22/05/2023 - 13:56

      In my postcode (Melbourne) AGL's price is actually the cheapest for electricity.
      For gas they are around 5-10% more than the cheapest retailer,
      but they do offer $100 welcome cashback so it's best to hop between retailers every 6 months.

  • placard on 22/05/2023 - 13:54
    +9

    I was under the impression if you wanted FIT you needed a smart meter? Otherwise how does the meter know what's feeding in and what's being drawn from the grid?

    Secondly, FIT is only one component. Usually, a higher FIT means higher daily fee and higher grid rate. There's usually no such thing as a free lunch.

    Personally I aim for more self-consumption and prefer a lower grid rate so at night I'm not paying much.

    For example, install a heat pump hot water system to consume excess power during the day.

    Much better off working towards changing appliances to electric from gas and self consuming as much as possible to disconnect from gas - then you're not paying a gas daily fee either.

    • blob2004 on 22/05/2023 - 14:50
      +2

      You can have solar FiT with a normal meter. But these energy companies "upgrade" people to a smart meter and say it's more accurate, but they actually add on a demand charge afterwards and it kills any benefit the FiT gives you.

      Last time I was with AGL I received a mail saying a technician will come to change my meter to a smart one without me ever consenting to it. I quickly changed energy companies before it happened.

      • placard on 22/05/2023 - 14:55

        So how does it 'count' the feed in with a traditional meter? I'm not sure how it can record both electricity drawn from grid versus amount fed back?

        • gumbs on 23/05/2023 - 07:03

          There are analog meters, digital meters and smart meters.

          Digital meters can count usage and export but there it's just an accumulator. Smart meters can tell exactly what you used and when, allowing demand and time of use metering.

      • tm32 on 22/05/2023 - 14:56

        First time I rejected the 'upgrade', as house was undergoing a 'renovation' and no site access. Legitimate, but you could just tell them regardless.

        Second time declined as well few years later.

        Assuming at some point I won't have a choice.

        No consumers benefited from the smart meter surely.

        • assailantsky on 22/05/2023 - 15:26

          No consumers benefited from the smart meter surely.

          Personally really don't get this thing against smart meters. Must be because I'm in NSW. When they "force" you to a ToU tariff, you just move to another retailer that provide a flat tariff. No different when the retailer up the tariff and you shop around? With a smart meter, you can also monitor your consumption and exports if your retailer support this, so for me a few pros and no con at all.

          • blob2004 on 22/05/2023 - 15:34

            @assailantsky: I think in QLD when you have a smart meter you are forced into a ToU tariff with any energy provider.

            I've seen some people reporting back that energy retailers are unable to provide flat tariffs due to them having smart meters, and they can't even change their meter back.

            • Phreaker on 22/05/2023 - 20:24

              @blob2004: that wasn't the case for me

            • F1Maniac on 22/05/2023 - 21:52

              @blob2004: Its not the retailer forcing you, its energex in seq. If i punch my nmi it only show tou or anytime w demand.

          • B-Man02 on 23/05/2023 - 13:42

            @assailantsky: In SA everyone i know that has a smart meter got forced to a TOU plan at start of this financial year. And if you have a smart meter you can't go back to flat rate. I tried changing retailers and plans but they say your meter is a tou meter.

  • thecloudking on 22/05/2023 - 13:56

    Well firstly you can't have solar without a smart meter

    • gibbo_au on 22/05/2023 - 14:11
      +1

      Really? I've had solar installed since 2011 without a smart meter. Your meter may need to be updated if it cannot support feed in but it does not need to be a smart meter, although retailers will push a smart meter so they can potentially move you to TOU charging to make more profit.

      • thecloudking on 22/05/2023 - 15:10

        According to Energy NSW -

        Going solar:
        You need a smart meter to install solar panels and batteries.

        https://www.energy.nsw.gov.au/households/guides-and-helpful-…

        • blob2004 on 22/05/2023 - 15:18

          I think maybe that's the rule now for everyone to have smart meters. But for those of us on legacy "normal" meters we can opt out of it for as long as we can to avoid a demand charge (TOU).

          • RockyRaccoon on 22/05/2023 - 22:01

            @blob2004: Each state is different.

            Here in NSW, I have a smart meter with FIT, and fixed rate tariff, no TOU. And the Smart meter was here when we moved in 3 years ago. It sends reading back to powershop hourly

    • Benoffie on 22/05/2023 - 14:20
      +2

      Dont need a smart meter. Received FiT for years without one.

    • DavRo on 22/05/2023 - 15:31

      When mine was done a few years ago they changed the metre so that it records feed in and used power. This is not a smart metre however as it just records totals not times or days. Not can it be read remotely like a smart metre

    • GordonD on 22/05/2023 - 16:17
      +1

      The definition of what a "smart" meter changed some time ago.

      Originally you had the old rotating disk ones that could only measure nett power use. Using power turned it forward, adding to your bill. Exporting power turned it backwards. That made having one price for power and a much lower FIT impossible to do. So they installed what they then called smart meters. Ones that could keep track of imported and exported power separately.

      More recently meters have gotten smarter, and they've stopped calling the previous earliest model smart meters smart meters.

  • asa79 on 22/05/2023 - 14:00
    +1

    That's not alot of kwh

    • gumbs on 23/05/2023 - 07:05

      Break even with 8c flat is 50kwh, that's a pretty big system.

      The extra daily and usage costs add up though.

  • Monoclonal26 on 22/05/2023 - 14:01
    +5

    I moved to Powershop in the Ausgrid network. Although they have a flat rate (28c) their feed-in is 13c unlimited. By balancing your usage to solar hours with delayed start and timers it works out much better. You also need to look at the daily fee … 65c with PS, verse $1+/day with others.

    Having previously been with AGL the implementation of the demand killed any ability to save money, and once they moved to this option we began to have bills rather than credits. Using the surge/spike and applying that calculation cross the entire month stung hard - e.g. 15 min in the oven at 4kwh, and lets say you boiled the kettle caused a spike of 6kw - this would then be multiplied by the rate of 25c and applied each day - so for that 15min usage you were slugged $1.50/day penalty or $45 for the month. In terms of power at the time 32c/kwh = 32c to cook dinner, but that meal cost me $45.32 come bill time.

    My suggestion is to focus on the uncontrollable (or in the case of the demand unrealistic controllable) bill amounts rather first (daily fee, demand charges etc), then the feed-in amount, and lastly the actual unit price of power in the shoulder/off peak. Paying 56c in the middle of the day peak for example is probably not even worth factoring in if you have solar as the likelihood of paying this is very rare.

    • nepal on 22/05/2023 - 14:19

      Hi Monoclonal26
      I am seeing the supply charge as 96.2 daily for NSW.
      Is that right.
      Thanks

      • Monoclonal26 on 22/05/2023 - 14:29
        +1

        Supply Charge will vary from each retailer and network. Below is for Ausgrid:

        It looks like PowerShop has has increased their rate - Daily supply charge 83.44c/day (inc GST) - however I am still paying my 65c.
        Energy Australia is Daily supply charge $0.935 per day
        Alinta: Daily Charge 86.856 c/Day
        RedEnergy Service to Property 111.100 c/day
        AGL Demand Solar Saver: Daily supply charge 129.91 cents/day

        • nepal on 22/05/2023 - 14:35

          Thanks

    • nafe on 22/05/2023 - 14:29

      With the previous AGL Solar Savers deal in NSW I had a quarter at $112 credit {summer) and then $3 for the following quarter. This is with TOU charges. Switching to Powershop shortly though as they sent us a cheque for our credit. We were happy to stay and use it up but they have enabled us to move sooner…😎

    • Heybargain on 22/05/2023 - 14:40

      This is what I do. Also with Powershop with the same feed in and rate.

    • ham0718 on 22/05/2023 - 14:47
      +1

      Damn that's great. Just had a look at them for Brisbane and RIP :(

      Single rate tariff 23.45c/kWh (inc GST)
      Daily supply charge 128.53c/day (inc GST)
      Solar feed-in tariff 3.5c/kWh (inc GST)

      • Catsfan070911 on 22/05/2023 - 15:04

        Wow must really vary by location, nothing like that for me and i'm on south side of Brisbane

        • ham0718 on 22/05/2023 - 22:16

          Yea totally, I'm in Cannon Hill 4170. Have mates literally 5km away and they have wildly different offers/rates.

  • Stivo on 22/05/2023 - 14:03

    Tempting. Worth an extra $1.16 per day on a high sun day… Would probably equate to over $150 per year.

  • PeppaCat on 22/05/2023 - 14:04
    +1

    AGL always have demand charge which is ridiculous.

  • Caring on 22/05/2023 - 14:05
    +2

    Steer clear of AGL. They hate solar. I was with them previously and transferred away - paying 1/3 of the price now.

    The biggest issue is they effective cap the feed in per month. After reaching that cap you basically give the power to them for free so they can sell it on for profit.

    • laudalashun on 22/05/2023 - 14:17

      Who are you with now?

    • frankymatty on 22/05/2023 - 14:27

      It appears that the excess is paid at 5c/kWh, which is the same as Origin (in QLD) so this works out better on a FiT rate. The usage rates are almost the same compared to Origin for me too.

    • Plentiful3271 on 22/05/2023 - 16:17

      You pay 1/3 of the price? Really??

  • robzta on 22/05/2023 - 14:50

    Just received an email from AGL "Your electricity meter upgrade" any advice guy's gives me a chance to OPT out?

    • blob2004 on 22/05/2023 - 14:54
      +1

      Online chat told me you could decline it but I'm unsure how you would do it. Perhaps giving them a call?

      I changed providers before they could upgrade mine.

    • tm32 on 22/05/2023 - 14:58
      +1

      Tell them your doing a renovation, and no site access or something. Are they actually going to come around and inspect?

      • robzta on 22/05/2023 - 15:03

        They sent me a opt-out link, is it worth changing? I've heard peoples bill's have gone up on the new digital meters, I don't have solar power.

        • blob2004 on 22/05/2023 - 15:10
          +1

          If you ever plan to get solar then don't get it.

          If you are sure you'll never get it then it probably doesn't matter, but I would still opt out as the "upgrade" provides no consumer benefit.

  • tunzafun001 on 22/05/2023 - 14:54

    You need a high solar fit/ high day rate in summer.. low feed in/ low day charge in winter.
    Take a sign up $50 bonus or so in between.

    No such thing as the best 12 month rate.

  • ndro777 on 22/05/2023 - 14:55

    Yep, was with AGL, paying $150 a month even summer. I moved to Simply Energy and haven't been paying more than $50 a month without changing usage pattern.

    • nightelves on 22/05/2023 - 15:13

      This time they are offering 15c FiT though.

  • db2k on 22/05/2023 - 14:59

    This must be plan specific. I'm on a family and friends in VIC and pay 18c kWh, 83c supply and 5c FIT.

  • mafim on 22/05/2023 - 15:18

    Thanks op, at least a good deal for existing AGL customer with 10c feed in tariff.

  • Notacommie on 22/05/2023 - 15:25

    https://files.ozbargain.com.au/upload/454712/103826/screensh…
    SUMO ENERGY
    I think peak and off peak might be better for some people
    FIT 10.2c
    Peak 28.49c
    Off peak 18.15c
    Daily changes 110c

  • CyberMurning on 22/05/2023 - 15:30

    globird is 11c for QLD
    https://www.globirdenergy.com.au/energy-saver/11c-solar-qld/

  • PiperDan on 22/05/2023 - 15:38
    +1

    Years of comparing providers using the "Victorian Energy Compare" site and AGL rarely if ever cracked the top 10 cheapest providers. So whatever carrot they're dangling this month ignore it one way or another you're gonna get hosed.

  • Catsfan070911 on 22/05/2023 - 15:42

    Thanks for this, prompted me to review my plan and this worked out better for me with my average production and consumption by 62c per day after Energy Australia changed their rates recently (I'm based in Brisbane region). Before considering the $50 sign up bonus online with AGL or any of the cashback offers available.

  • BlkForest on 22/05/2023 - 16:02

    prefer no-cap per day with lower feed-in price (even 8 or 9 c)
    AGL provided 15c FiT 2y ago but only 8 kWh per day. Insane

  • gimjam on 22/05/2023 - 16:06
    +2

    Having a cap on the FiT sucks

  • Plentiful3271 on 22/05/2023 - 16:20
    +1

    Interesting they keep bumping this up.. it only recently went from 10c to 12c (in QLD). Annoying thing is the increased rate isn't automatic so you need to do a plan change each time to benefit (only takes a few mins). I miss my 20c FIT with no limits…that was the last time my bill was $0.00 every month.

  • drycleanonly on 22/05/2023 - 16:52

    I went from 10c capped to 12c uncapped after I left Origin and they subsequently gave me a better offer to come back…

  • PandaInPants on 22/05/2023 - 17:38

    Just give powershop a call, as many of you suggest it. It turns out AGL is LYING to me all the time?
    The story is AGL sales tricked me into to those demand charge as I dont have to pay for the old plan. They made me switched to them, and offered me a total different plan as they told me in my area I have to pay for "demand charge"! After talking with Powershop they could offer me a flat rate plan, I am going to switch. Any better suggestion other than powershop?

    • assailantsky on 22/05/2023 - 17:49
      +1

      https://www.energymadeeasy.gov.au/

      You should always use this site when you are shopping around, retailers offer many plans for different networks and locations. No one here will be able to tell you which retailer has the better plan for you other than the above site.

      • PandaInPants on 22/05/2023 - 17:52

        Thank you

      • Nugs on 23/05/2023 - 09:32

        had a look, the cheapest is around $150 per year cheaper, but with $110 of transfer fees I'm not jumping yet
        scratch that, our ACTUAL 12 month billing matches the cheapest estimated already. we're on an old pay on time discount plan and I check every year or so to find it is still near cheapest
        that site showed the cheapest AGL being $1600 per year on landing list, but when filters are applied I found cheaper AGL plans (none of which are same plan as we are currently on)
        .

        • assailantsky on 23/05/2023 - 10:53

          $110 of transfer fees I'm not jumping yet

          You should confirm this with your retailer. In NSW exit fees are not allowed, maybe check your local state rules. Also, does your transfer fee = move in/new connection fee? These will not apply if you are in an existing household with an existing retailer, i.e. when changing retailers.

          we're on an old pay on time discount plan and I check every year or so to find it is still near cheapest

          I'm also on an old plan (Jarrah Solar) from Click Energy when AGL bought them out. It has the 20c FiT and single tariff 32c inc GST. Hard to beat in the current market with my household being a big exporter all year round. But I still check on the website from time to time.

          • Nugs on 23/05/2023 - 10:58

            @assailantsky: "You should confirm this with your retailer. In NSW exit fees are not allowed, maybe check your local state rules. Also, does your transfer fee = move in/new connection fee? These will not apply if you are in an existing household with an existing retailer, i.e. when changing retailers."
            not sure, but we're with AGL until December when our five year commitment to the Virtual Power Plant expires ('cheap' Tesla Powerwall 2 installed Dec 2018). exit fee of $1000 per year from memory
            I just went to the site again pretending to be in NSW and I saw a $10 fee where I saw multiple $53 fees earlier with actual NMI used (SA)
            .

  • ozsave on 22/05/2023 - 18:04
    +1

    Was with AGL in Sydney until several months ago when they reduced their FIT significantly. Moved across to Powershop and couldn't be happier.
    FIT 13cents; single rate tariff 28.9cents incl GST; daily feed in 65.2cents per day.
    The new management at AGL was going to focus on going green but they have done the exact opposite by penalising solar systems!

  • Nugs on 22/05/2023 - 19:13

    As they say, Winter is coming.
    Since the beginning of the month we've exported 3kWh over the last three weeks with a 6kW system so fit becomes somewhat irrelevant for the next few months
    .

    • Daddy74 on 24/05/2023 - 21:45

      Strange we are in QLD and we have a 12kw system and have exported close to 600kw h in the last three weeks , in summer months we export upto 1200 kw in a month , haven't paid a cent in electricity bill for the last 18 months

  • Wallas on 22/05/2023 - 20:55
    -5

    AGL is giving this promotion in winters, when the solar wont be able to produce much electricity compare to other months.
    Energy deals can provide you better electricity rates because they sell the plans directly from the energy retailers, you will not find these rates on any energy comparison websites.

    Reach out to energy deals on [email protected] for the energy quotes.

    • drycleanonly on 22/05/2023 - 21:32
      +1

      New user, one spam comment. This needs to be removed.

  • delemonte on 23/05/2023 - 08:39

    AGL now offer a total of $0.00c/kWh for customers on the government $0.44c/kWh scheme. Does anybody know an alternative retailer that offers more than $0.00c/kWh but without insane connection fees and charges as well?

  • lost1thong on 24/05/2023 - 14:13

    Econnex company didn't offer this plan for me in SA. But I found this link for the good guys credit which I just used and worked. Note - the plan is changing price on July 1 which I'm unsure of prices…. Hope it helps someone.

    https://www.agl.com.au/get-connected/electricity-gas-plans/n…

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