Wow, what is happening with SSD prices? 1TB of TLC for only $79 delivered+ 1% surcharge for Card & PayPal payments.
Ofc, these are PCiE 3.0.
Update: "Maximum Order Quantity: 1"
Update 2: available again. I received mine today from last week, brand new stock manufactured April 2023. Firmware is latest version (per Magician).
Update 3 9 May: shipping not free any more, will mark as expired.
(Serious question) Why wouldn't you use these for a NAS?
$/TB is still too high for large amounts of storage that you get in spinning rust drives.
A 20TB HDD is cheaper than a 20TB SSD.
Absolutely fair, I wasn't thinking in such large(ish) categories.
A fast 1tb ssd nas would do in my case.
@pizzaguy: I started on my NAS journey thinking the same way…. 1 year down the line… I have 2x NAS with 2 Bays and 4-Bays with the below HDD configuration:
3 x 4 TB
1 x 6 TB
2 x 8 TB
@pizzaguy: Also hardly anyone will have the network bandwidth to make effective use of fast SSDs in a NAS.
@Mostly Fanless: They have NVMe for webhosting. Hardly anyone would have the internet bandwidth to make effective use???
SSD has higher reliability compared to mechanical drive, much lower power consumption, and so tiny. It will also operate at elevated temperatures and if you have a moving home with plenty of vibration on the move it's perfect storage medium as a NAS. It's not just speed that matters.
@skillet: OK :) I assumed the context here is home users shopping for consumer-grade SSDs. Enterprise and ISPs are a different game.
@Mostly Fanless: No, 100mb. Hardly anyone has 1Gbe, or 2.5, or even multiple nics for that matter. That kind of bandwidth or flexibility is completely out of reach of all but the most elite network engineers.
Not a valid reason. SSDs absolutely have their place in a NAS. They play an important role for things like cache and persistent data.
@SvcKpc: Yes specially in a workplace environment where we're opening the same 5-10 spreadsheets or pricelists etc
My Synology with SSD cache reports a 100% hit rate for the stuff we use at work
@daft009: I guess your hit rate doesn't depend on the type of storage, but if there's a lot of spreadsheets on that NAS it makes sense to use SSD for cache instead of RAM (?).
@pizzaguy: Basically small files which often get opened over and over again by different users is how Synology described the SSD cache being useful.
Don't think RAM would help here
At home on the same model NAS I haven't installed any cache as it's more for storage. Pics and videos and movies music etc
People who have a NAS generally do it because they have mega tonne of data to store. Im talking bare minimum 50TB. Which they can get so much cheaper buying internal SATA drives (around $20-$30/TB) M.2 drives only go up to 8TB I believe and are stupidly expensive, plus NAS cases only have small amounts of slots for these. So anybody with a NAS wouldnt touch these.
People who have a NAS generally do it because they have mega tonne of data to store. Im talking bare minimum 50TB.
That seems wildly arbitrary and incorrect. I have about 8TB in my NAS which is primarily used to serve up media files to a Shield.
snickerz above posted that he has 6 drives for his 34TB.
Given the amount of 2 and 4 bay NAS devices that are available, it's highly unlikely that a majority of people with a NAS have 50TB of storage.
@Domingo: These days its for big collections. Before people were doing smaller because thats all that was available and they still have them - hence the negs. Should have known that ozbargainers get offended when they have small stuff only lol. Most people are buying bigger drives like 12-20tb because its the best value for money and data. Hardly ever see NAS posts on here, as its really expensive and most on this site cant afford to outlay that kind of money for drives and NAS. Most people on OZb dont even download, they just stream.
No way, I currently have 3TB, but previously had a 320gb ghetto nas with an old hard drive. Its very useful. I can download things from my desktop PC or my laptop to the same location. I can then watch these things from my phone, TV, tablet, its great!
This is the most technologically ignorant thing I’ve read today.
Dropping so quick
That’s what she said
Not many Michael Scott fans I guess….
Hope to see the 2TB goes below a hundred mark.
Guess how they felt the pressure? Price has already gone down below $100 for 2TB in China
The Silicon Power is down to 132 so could possibly get there?
i've be happy to pay $120 for 2TB, any obvious deals i'm missing?
Amazon has multiple 2TB PCIE SSDs for around the $130 mark.
If you just wanted a SATA SSD they have made it to $119 as a standard price now for the Patriot Burst Elite (though technically it is 1.92TB no 2TB)
This price could only be 500gb. Thanks OP, great found!
Absolute steal, great for most use-cases apart from PS5
Are these incompatible with ps5 or something?
Yeah PS5 wants PCIe 4x4, this is PCIe 3x4
https://www.playstation.com/en-au/support/hardware/ps5-insta…
I'm guessing this is insanely better than the mx500? Ignoring form factor
Ignoring the fact that they use different interfaces (m.2 NVMe vs SATA), the 970 evo is much faster.
Roughly 500 MB/s seq read for the mx500 vs 3500 for the 970evo.
Bugger, picked up 2x Crucial 1TB for $75ea just this afternoon! Could’ve had 3x the TBW for an extra $10
Return or cancel your order. Sounds like you purchased QLC PCIe 3 drives. It is worth spending the extra $10.
Is there any easy way to have two of these in a single usbc/tb enclosure working in raid1?
Or do we have better backup solitions these day?
TBH not sure why you'd want RAID, better to have two copies in different locations.
Sure thing but that's harder to automate and slower to sync, right?
I guess with the reliability and speed of SSDs it doesn't make sense to use it in any RAID config.
It depends on what you are wanting to guard against. If you had two drives in the same enclosure, then in the case of say fire, theft or lightning strike, you lose all the data. If you have a copy in another location you don't. While automated is better, it's also possible to do things like a periodic exchange of drives to another location.
@Mostly Fanless: I get what you're saying, my concern is what to use to automate. I can't be bothered moving single files across multiple directories to make the copies even.
Perhaps directories can be merged by the OS while copying (because it detects which files already exists, recursively inside directories inside directories), but it still involves the manual process of dragging things between windows. And counting on the OS (or manually checking and comparing eg. directory sizes) that everything's 1:1.
@pizzaguy: I use a Robocopy batch file to automate my backups, works great. https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-server/administrat…
RRP $385? What happen to Shopping Express keeps resending old emails to me?
They also have the 500GB 980 for $39 but no free shipping https://www.shoppingexpress.com.au/buy/samsung-980-500gb-310…
This has 1gb Dram cache right?
I found online that dram doesn't make much of a difference for gaming as well, and compared to the Kingston deal for $65, you reckon the dram is worth $14?
TLC is worth it over QLC. And yes, DRAM helps when you are doing those game updates where many files are unpacked into the game folder.
I was holding for a 2TB gen 4 as a boot drive for my PC that has a single slot motherboard (B550). Should I just sacrifice 1TB and go for this?
I'm under the impression that this gen 3 samsung is better than most cheap gen 4 drives.
I don't really need 2TB just thought more is better but with the way prices are going 4TB will be a cheap upgrade in a few years.
Would just be for windows and maybe a few often played games.
Should I bite?
If you have only 1 pcie 4.0 slot then I think it’s better to get something like this which is double the speed.
Great deal.
NB. Update: "Maximum Order Quantity: 1"
at a time… ;)
I wasn't sure if they would check the orders if you put two in say an hour apart.
Maybe I'll try it some time with RAM sticks, they seem have limit 1 on those (that I've needed) but you usually do need two…
My motherboard supports PCiE 4.0,
Is it worthwhile waiting for Gen 4 (PCiE 4.0) NVMe SSDs to drop in price ?
This is a PCIE 3.0 drive but it is updated to a 4.0 controller.
Can I somehow make it work with Xbox One S? (Not Xbox Series S)?
Thanks!
With an external USB NVMe enclosure, sure.
was going to pull the trigger, but but but I am also aware the 0E error
Explain or link?
No not this drive. Samsung would have fixed it anyway.
Someone in that thread literally said their 970 Evo fell victim to it.
Samsung have always had firmware issues on their SSDs. Not everyone will be affected by it, but it's something to consider depending on your use case.
I would not trust them in a special vdev on zfs.
For a gaming PC with a PCIe 3.0 m.2 slot? Perfectly fine choice.
I guess with PCIe 5 stuff starting to coming out it may be causing the price drop of the older tech PCIE 3 and PCIE4
no, actualy it's a overstock event not finished goods but material - DRAM
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/dram-prices-dropped-20-in-…
No it's actually price fixing between WD, Samsung, Hynix, Micron and Toshiba. Their cartel monopoly couldn't handle the competition anymore. They couldn't use excuses like power cut at the factory or shortages to rise prices anymore. Now that there are new players good days for them is gone.
That is a interesting article from Toms hardware.. thanks for sharing it ! So we should also see good prices on DDR ram and maybe it will contribute to some falls in GPU prices.
Sadly graphics cards haven't taken a hint yet.
Amazing price. What would be better in a case for external backups, this or a T7?
Late response here, but if the price difference not too large I would get T7. Two reasons, one is cheap enclosures may not be all that reliable and second is heat. Some external NVMe enclosures heatsink the drive but a lot of them just put the NVMe in a tiny metal box, which looks great from the outside but there's no actual thermal contact with the drive.
My Dad’s old 850 EVO just gave up the ghost so this is perfect timing!
Can you turn this into an external SSD? I assume this only fits in a desktop computer?
Yes with an nvme enclosure
Damn went out of stock between adding to cart and logging in to my account…
This or evo 980?
Judging from your username I'd go for the 970 Evo plus
980 pro is better but you would never notice the speed difference so probs not worth the extra $$ unless you like the best of the best
not the 980 pro i mean normal 980 lol
Oh this is better since normal 980 doesn't have dram and is usually cheaper
looks like the 970 evo plus just sold out. that's what I would choose though. In reality, unless you are transferring very large files, they will perform very similarly
its so sold out and gone it's infuriating
Damn I was about to pull the trigger
it's ok, I am sure there's more to come
It's back in stock.
outofstock
I think I bought the last one at 9:11am..
You should be thanking my dad, as he called me when I was checking it out
That's what voicemail is for
dang! had work meetings and missed this…I guess work is more important than this…lol
Sorry :( This was one for the night owls ;)
Wrong, nothing is more important than OzBargain :P
lol…talking about priority in life here….
So true! without OZB, work life cannot sustain, right?! so dull and boring…meeting after meetings, process after processes
can these be used with PS5's?
Doesn't meet specs, see comment further up.
Surprised this got a lot more votes than the $65 Kingston 1TB PCiE 4
A few reasons.
The ol' DRAM vs. no-DRAM debate.
3,500R / 3,300W MB/s vs. 3,500R / 2,100W MB/s
600TBW vs. 320TBW
5yr vs. 3yr warranty
The thing going for Kingston is PCIe 4.0, though I'm not sure of the functional benefit here. Still not a bad drive.
Shipping was pretty fast with this shop. Ordered on 4th. Arrived on 5th!
Back in stock again.
Is there a new model coming or is this just part of the general massive drop in SSD prices & will become the norm?
Need the same to happen to NAS Drive prices