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Honestly wasn't sure what info to keep in the title. In the end copied the title from the previous deal.
Nothing wrong with the title. My stupid brain saw 4.0 and for some reason thought 4TB
Personally I think it's a bit messy but I guess all that info is important?
This one, the KC3000 or the SN770?
KC3000 is fastest, that's what I'd go with
Realistically, for most people, all 3 are overkill, especially if you are asking the question. It comes down to whether you want a flagship class PCIe gen 4 x4 SSD or you want to save some money.
Any idea how the 980 Pro compares to these drives? It's slightly more and not currently discounted, and I've already got a 980 Pro 1TB and 980 1TB so another would fit nicely with current management software.
980 Pro generally is for people who really care about constant SSD usage or prefer Samsung SSDs. Phison E18 SSDs do pull ahead in 2TB. That's why Samsung introduced 990 Pro. 980 Pro does have the infamous upgrade your firmware to a new enough version or you could have write wear level issue (or PS5 test result being subpar). 990 Pro needs firmware update too. To be fair, for all SSDs, upgrade firmware to the latest.
Flagship and mainstream PCIe gen 4 x4 SSDs are overkill for most people. It comes down to whether you prefer Samsung SSD or you can more about top results in benchmark apps.
@netsurfer: Hrm yeah that's the impression I got, though it would be nice to complete the set and have the single management software. I intend to write a lot of work stuff to it, some very heavy AI models, so endurance is perhaps what I should be looking at most of all.
Thank you,i might pick up the Kingston as OS drive and then look for a cheap 4tb to run gamesfrom.
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A decent price for new generation of HMB-based 2TB TLC NAND SSD.
About this item
Specifications
| Name | Value |
|---|---|
| Capacity | 2TB |
| Form Factor | M.2 2280 |
| Interface / Protocol | PCIe 4.0 x4 / NVMe |
| Controller | Phison E21T |
| DRAM | No (HMB) |
| Flash Memory | 176L Micron TLC |
| Sequential Read | 4,800 MBps |
| Sequential Write | 4,500 MBps |
| Random Read | 530K |
| Random Write | 1000K |
| Security | AES 256-bit |
| Endurance (TBW) | 1200TBW |
| Part Number | CSSD-F2000GBMP600GS |
| Warranty | 5-year |
Thanks for the detailed info. :D
Here's a pastebin link with the MD code in case someone has the appropriate permissions to edit the post itself (I don't have that).
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I've got a Google Sheet that I use for creating my Markdown tables - so much easier
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no PS5 supported?
You could use it for PS5, but it is technically below the recommended read speed.
My brother has been using one in his ps5 for the last year and a half, no issues. YET. But I think it'll be fine :)
At worst it would only bring in a few stuttering frames as it dynamically loads data instead of loading seamlessly, unless Sony have built something that's all or nothing in the background.
Realistically developers will build in some leniency knowing that drives will never run perfectly.
trying to get this to replace dell laptop storage.
any free software to clone the whole SSD from laptop.
windows should be able to create a cloned image for you. https://www.ubackup.com/res/restore-system-image-to-new-ssd-…
forgive my ignorance, but doesnt that clone the size of the hdd? i remember when i cloned my 500GB SSD to my 1TB it only showed 500GB and the other remaining storage was unused/unformated sort of like a second partition.
With Macrium Reflect it's possible to adjust partition sizes so you can clone a smaller disk to a larger disk.
Free trial of Macrium is what I always use.
If you want open source, Clonezilla on a bootable works fine if new drive is same or larger. I did use gparted (also on usb) to fiddle the partition sizes afterwards too.
Que the "does this work on ps5?" and "ps5 games only run at 7000mbs read and write speeds" comments
Spanish what
Why not both
Hey hoping to get some advice from you guys that are more knowledgeable with SSD's; my old MP500 is having weird issues and long story short this morning I got an email back from Corsair offering to replace the unit with this exact MP600 GS (well 1GB version). So my question is the MP500 has DRAM and this MP600 GS is DRAM-less as far as I am aware while I understand this drive is newer and faster I am using the SSD in an USB-C enclosure for Photoshop/Lightroom editing (where the software are installed on the OS SSD and this SSD will purely be used to hold the photos and have finished edits be exported to it as well, if that made sense) so in this case would the lack of DRAM affect the performance much for what I'll be using it for? Thanks!
When you use a USB-C enclosure, the USB-C to NVMe conversion actually has a bigger performance penalty vs DRAMless impact.
Basically, I wouldn't worry about it (because by putting it in an enclosure, the performance would already be lowered). However, it is good that you provide the info that Corsair elected to provide a replacement SSD (a newer model). There are pros and cons of that approach. If you are lucky, you get a better model AND a size upgrade. The down side is that replacement SSD inherits remaining warranty period. Full refund gives you money back, but no potential free upgrade.
Really appreciate the detailed write up. Yea as you said with the enclosure I will max out at 1GB transfer rate so I wasn't too worried about the spec sheet speed improvement of the MP600 GS vs my older MP500 but rather I wondered if I'll see much penalty not having the DRAM with the MP600 GS. Going by what you wrote looks like I won't practically notice a difference based on my usage scenario. Thanks again.
In my Intel NUC x15's gen 4 M.2 slot, I have a 2TB Crucial P5 Plus which has the lot, including DRAM cache and in real world applications it's not much better than the $120 2TB PNY 3031
In general usage, yes. In heavy usage, you can tell the difference. Most people won't do it, but if you like, do a full drive clone test, you will notice the difference in time.
I don't disagree at all, but I don't consider that a 'real world application' - although if my profession involved doing full driver clones, it would most certainly matter.
And if that was the case, I wouldn't be hesitant about spending an additional $100 on a drive that can transfer at 4-5 gigabytes a second.
NVMe SSDs are generally overkill for most people. But, we still buy flagship class SSDs.
I think you meant PNY CS1031 2TB. Your usage is prodominate reads and you probably have not filled the drive up. People reported QLC on that SSD. Its sustained write does tank once the SLC cache is depleted. One report claims 60MB/s. Thing is a lot of us still use HDDs.
@BargainHunterJohnnyB: QLC can write 16 bits per cell (2^4 = 16). It reduces NAND cost, but write is slower in that mode.
350-500, that seems to be in TLC range, which is better.
@netsurfer: Hmmm yeah but I've only used up half of the 2tbs so far so there will probably be a drop in performance when I reach the 85% used mark..
@BargainHunterJohnnyB: Too many SSD deals, got confused. Your one is TLC, but could be binned Crucial NAND chips.
@BargainHunterJohnnyB: TLC is the current mainstream NAND type. It performs better than QLC. However, there are multiple grades of TLC.
Anyway, 350-500MB/s sustained write makes sense for the SSD you mentioned and that's good.
@BargainHunterJohnnyB: Well, SN570 2TB can do 3000MB/s for 900GB. Note, the 1TB version, however, has a tiny 12-13GB SLC dynamic cache. SN570 is a bit odd.
Anyway, I don't think any of my PCIe gen 4 x4 SSDs have a 900GB dynamic SLC cache. However, the flagship SLC cache write speed are ~6500MB/s, so even with just a 600-700GB SLC cache, overall, it is still a lot faster in write compared to SN570 2TB, and the TLC write speed for those are superior to SN570.
My brain read that as 4TB for $206. Got really excited for a moment there
Pretty good price for 2TB