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TEAMGROUP MP34 4TB NVMe M.2 SSD US$275.65 Delivered (~A$414.39 GST-Inclusive) @ TEAMGROUP Inc Amazon US

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I originally posted this deal at the start of December, but the price has dropped substantially since then!

This is a crazy good price for a 4TB NVME TLC SSD. Lowest I've seen for a decent 4TB NVME, and this is the lowest this has been at CCC. This is $599 at PCCG.

  • 5 year warranty
  • TLC flash
  • Has DRAM
  • 1.3 PCIe Gen3x4 — NOT SUITABLE FOR PS5
  • Read/Write Speed up to 3,500/2,900 MB/s (likely around 400GB of SLC cache at this speed when empty, ~2000MB/s write when full)

Yes, this item ships to Australian addresses from Amazon USA (amazon.com). If you try to purchase from Amazon Australia, prepare to pay more ($746AUD).

Tip: Pay with a low-international fee card, and select "USD" at checkout to save ~3% more. Up bank, ING etc.

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  • Skramit on 29/12/2022 - 16:49
    +12

    I appreciate a solid SSD deal.

    • reactor-au on 29/12/2022 - 17:12

      Always nice to do someone a solid

      • BarneyKB on 29/12/2022 - 17:15
        +1

        solid SSD drive deals abound

        • DDman7 on 29/12/2022 - 17:17
          +1

          This SSD is very SSD

        • Save Medicare on 29/12/2022 - 17:17
          +2

          SSSDDD?

      • Skramit on 29/12/2022 - 19:56

        I like solids.

  • eepykate on 29/12/2022 - 16:59
    +3

    For context, there's a Crucial P3 currently going for $10 less (the ATL), and the MX500's ATL is about $25 less. (or $29 less if you exclude the free metro delivery / C&C (which are included in this price so not a fair comparison))

    Agree that this is a crazy good deal, was strongly considering it at 450 but I couldn't exactly resist at this price.

    • megadeth on 29/12/2022 - 17:18

      Can’t compare tlc with qlc. Apples and oranges! :)
      Edit: sorry just saw your point… your info is for context only… agree it’s a good deal.

      • elwology on 29/12/2022 - 17:27

        Actually you can compare apples and oranges, Ronny Chieng did it before.

      • eepykate on 29/12/2022 - 19:00
        +2

        Even so, I don't think comparing to the P3 is apples and oranges - I'd agree to an extent with the MX500 being apples-to-oranges however, it simply won't work in some scenarios that a NVMe would, and vice versa.

        They're both NVMe SSDs, they both have the same capacity, same size, a similar price[1], and if one works, the other certainly will - For this, it's just that the MP34 is much more durable (The 512GB MP34 has the same endurance as the 4TB P3…), rated speeds appear to be similar, but it's PCIe 3.0 (so reaching close to the limit ain't too special), and they're probably just claiming the SLC cache speeds, rather than direct to (Q|T)LC (can't find any places that have reviewed both).

        [1] Afaik this is the main difference generally, and frankly, I don't get the obsession with QLC vs TLC for low/midrange drives anyway - Not saying that "QLC Good, actually", I just think it shouldn't the main consideration.

        • hijack on 29/12/2022 - 19:47

          I'm starting to confuse :( so P3 is a better price or this one?

          Anyone enlighten me plzz

          • eepykate on 29/12/2022 - 19:48

            @hijack: The P3 is $10 cheaper

            This is the better drive imo, hence me buying this one.

  • Thien Hoang on 29/12/2022 - 17:02

    Hi, as a noob, can i ask if it works with Lenovo ThinkPad T14s Gen 2? Using Samsung 981b 1tb NVMe now.
    Thanks

    • BuIIy on 29/12/2022 - 17:19

      Yes it should work

    • PlushToys on 29/12/2022 - 21:55
      +2

      Would recommend the Crucial P3. This drive is double sided and will bend in a laptop chassis.

    • giordan0 on 30/12/2022 - 17:54

      No, you need a single sided NVMe SSD. (A lot of those are capped at 2Tb at the moment).

  • Bluto Mindpretzel on 29/12/2022 - 17:21

    Great deal, bought!

  • kungfuman on 29/12/2022 - 17:31
    -4

    damn its only a gen 3 not a gen 4 7000mbps thats ashame would have like to upgrade my ps5 storage from the 2tb nvme to 4tb nvme o well.

  • Schrodinger on 29/12/2022 - 17:54

    Now the 14TB HDD I ordered recently for ~380AUD doesn't seem like a good deal anymore :/

    • pinchies on 29/12/2022 - 17:56
      +2

      4x the storage per $, still worth the savings for backup drives!

  • [Deactivated] on 29/12/2022 - 18:03

    How would the warranty work? I dont think you can send this back to Amazon AU as you didnt buy from them.

    • pinchies on 29/12/2022 - 18:10
      +1

      From the TeamGroup warranty policy page:

      For damage caused by deficient manufacturing processing or poor materials, TEAMGROUP will take responsibility for providing free maintenance. The procedures are as follows:
      Send the defective product back to the TEAMGROUP dealer where it was purchased. […] For customers from other countries, you may have to pay for return shipment freight. TEAMGROUP will pay for the freight charge when we return the repaired or replacement products to your side.

      Based on the fact that this is listed on amazon by TeamGroup themselves, I would presume that you deal directly with TeamGroup for all warranty issues, and then they will tell you where to send the faulty component. Even though they are based in Taiwan, it is fairly common for large companies to have a local company who handles their warranty processes on their behalf.

      • reactor-au on 29/12/2022 - 18:22

        For computer components that is often a local distributor, whom is unlikely to assist with grey imports. Even if the manufacturing has its own first party presence locally, they often won't assist with grey imports.
        I expect teamgroup will request to send back to USA source or Taiwan HQ.

        • pinchies on 29/12/2022 - 19:09

          I really doubt they would request it to be sent back to the USA. Most company processes have modernised … I know that used to be the case sometimes, but I haven’t had to do that for a long long time. Far more likely IMHO to have to send to Taiwan. The RMA form asks you for your location, so I feel it is reasonable to assume they would do their best to suggest the closest support option. Would probably be best to contact them to find out what the go is.

          • netsurfer on 29/12/2022 - 20:58
            +2

            @pinchies: It's not a good idea to suggest that. It is known that for SSDs, quite a lot of makers refuse to provide international warranty and expect you to send it back to the country the item was sold.

            That's the thing with warranty through the retailers, the retailers need to provide the proper support, rather than pass it on to the SSD maker (RMA). Furthermore, this is buying from Amazon USA directly, rather than through Amazon AU. While Amazon AU support is generally good, Amazon USA is quite often strict to the rules nowadays.

            • [Deactivated] on 29/12/2022 - 21:47
              +1

              @netsurfer: If Amazon USA sells to an Australian customer, they're required to abide by Australian consumer law.

              • UsernameChecksIn on 29/12/2022 - 22:37

                @[Deactivated]: They selectively interpret though still appear to have standardised processes

                • [Deactivated] on 29/12/2022 - 23:48

                  @UsernameChecksIn: They don't get to selectively interpret Australian Consumer Law, any more than MSY got to.l

                  • UsernameChecksIn on 29/12/2022 - 23:50

                    @[Deactivated]: Maybe we will eventually reach critical mass to induce process change some time soon
                    Keep the feedback comments rolling in OzBargain threads and elsewhere

              • pinchies on 30/12/2022 - 00:25

                @[Deactivated]: This is not correct. Sending something by international post does not mean you have to all of sudden drive on the left side of the road everywhere you go. I wish!

                • [Deactivated] on 30/12/2022 - 00:26
                  -2

                  @pinchies: sighs.

                  It took google 0.52 seconds, and me another 3, to get you this link.

                  https://www.consumer.vic.gov.au/products-and-services/online…

                  |The Australian Consumer Law applies to anyone conducting business within Australia - this includes overseas businesses. In this case, view our Buying from an Australian business online page.

                  If they refuse to comply, your CC company will let you chargeback.

                  • pinchies on 30/12/2022 - 00:29
                    +3

                    @[Deactivated]: On that page it states:

                    However, be aware that if a business is overseas, you may experience practical difficulties in obtaining a refund, repair or replacement for your product.

                    — basically —

                    "They should follow our rules… but we can't enforce it".

                    If you go spouting ACL to any overseas business you're going to get strange looks, because you don't have an (enforceable) leg to stand on.

                    They can just as easily add items to their T&C to say that they will only be following their domestic laws, and that all trade is assumed to be domestic only, and that international buyers do so at their own risk…..

                    • [Deactivated] on 30/12/2022 - 00:34
                      -1

                      @pinchies: The ACCC has sued Viagogo (based in switzerland), Meta (partly based in Ireland) among many, many others

                      IE https://www.accc.gov.au/media-release/accc-takes-ticket-rese…

                      Yes, there are practical obstructions to small fry you getting your one individual issue resolved. But no, the ACCC doesn't have no ability to enforce a pattern of behaviour, and the multinationals are well aware of it now if you know how to dispute things correctly.

                      And again, if you don't, your CC will always side with you. Why? Because you were categorically wrong.

                      Please, take the chance to learn something new today instead of doubling down on your ignorance.

  • typhoonadventure on 29/12/2022 - 18:24

    What persons first born I wouldn't sacrifice for an affordable ps5 compatible 4tb m.2 ssd.

  • Toxic on 29/12/2022 - 18:36

    I can see the price as 242? Am I looking at the wrong one?

    • pinchies on 29/12/2022 - 19:11
      +3

      That price is excluding GST and postage. In USA their displayed prices do not typically include sales tax, unlike in Aus.

    • Majoof on 30/12/2022 - 09:52

      Yeah, I can't figure out how to get the deal price. All I can see is USD$368 or AUD$559.

      • Toxic on 30/12/2022 - 12:15

        It's 414 when you check out.

  • dstar012 on 29/12/2022 - 19:07

    What does everyone use to clone their ssd when they get a new one?

    • pinchies on 29/12/2022 - 19:10
      +3

      Macrium Reflect Free

    • x x on 29/12/2022 - 20:25
      +1

      I prefer to do a fresh install of the OS and use Ninite to install my usual software

  • javawoo on 29/12/2022 - 19:14
    +1

    GEN3 and Gen 4 are very different in spec (number) but you don't really feel different. it's like 1~2 sec diff on 20~30secs loading.

    I would say this is really good price for the size.

    • netsurfer on 29/12/2022 - 21:23
      +1

      The noticeable difference is the sustained write, and that's flagship gen 3 vs flagship gen 4. That difference could be double due to the improvement in gen 4 controller and multi-layer TLC NAND chips. Problem is, so far the price difference is 50% extra so most people are happy with PCIe gen 3. The only problem with PCIe gen 3 4TB is if the SSD maker did a swap to QLC, they generally don't tell you.

      • javawoo on 29/12/2022 - 21:25

        the double is only when you copy a single large file.

        for gaming no big different,less than 5%, when you read mostly 4k files. and when you install game internet speed always slower than ssd so no different in here too.

        Gen 3 generates less heat. thats bonus point too.

        • netsurfer on 29/12/2022 - 21:31

          If you don't care about moving game files between devices, then it is fine.

          It's not objective to twist the facts, if you insist on Internet speed being so slow for SSD write, surely the gen 4 SSD won't overheat with that kind of super slow write speed. If all you care about is gaming, then the gen 4 SSD won't overheat (nor the gen 3 SSD). Gen 3 SSDs are fine for gaming. My main concern is a tendency to swap to QLC at high capacity and not telling the customers.

          • UsernameChecksIn on 29/12/2022 - 22:43

            @netsurfer: Opaque supply chain in multiple components switched after release :(

            Often gets to a point where we would benefit from each manufacturing batch having its own model number / identifier at point of sale as it makes it difficult to compare

            Also convolutes listings for sellers

            …post-release patching that is generally only found out when reviewers are on the ball. Sometimes press-released and publicly spec-sheeted.

  • chrisn26 on 29/12/2022 - 20:25

    Cheers, I ordered at the previous price of 259 usd and thought that was great. Luckily I saw this and cancelled that and reordered at this kick-ass price!

  • netsurfer on 29/12/2022 - 21:02
    +1

    One thing that's a bit odd with this SSD is the TBW.

    512GB: 800TBW
    1TB: 1,660TBW
    2TB: 2,000TBW
    4TB: 2,400TBW

    Notice that you don't gain much from 1TB onwards.

    Also, some of the 1 star review comments are concerning. There is a customer reporting a controller swap on the 2TB version and that customer also suspects there is a swap to QLC. That's my concern with the reduced TBW as it does open the door for a NAND swap to QLC.

    Suggestion if you want to get this drive: after receive this drive, attempt to find the controller on the SSD, if it is indeed Phison, run the Phison utility to check the NAND type to ensure it is TLC. If it is QLC, then you need to decide whether to keep it or return it for a refund. If it is Realtek chipset, try run the Realtek utility to see if you can find out the NAND type. Otherwise, you need to do a full drive write (or at least write more than 2TB) to check the sustained write to work out the NAND type.

    • pinchies on 29/12/2022 - 23:17
      +4

      I'm most certainly aware of the unfortunate TLC-QLC-swapping shenanigans that some manufacturers are indulging in… however, there is a separate MP34Q SKU for the QLC version of this board.

      The two MP34's I've received so far both have the same flash: Hynix 3dv6-128L TLC (marked FOBH08T on the IC). The controller is Realtek RTS5762, matching what others received.

      They also both have the same firmware VB451D63, with flash IC date codes of 2216 and 2127, and sticker label date codes of 2231 and 2241 respectively.

      • UsernameChecksIn on 29/12/2022 - 23:51

        Awesome fingerprinting work

        Samuel Pinchies pinches drilling down on further manufacturer shenanigans

      • netsurfer on 30/12/2022 - 12:47

        Thanks for the information. Would you happen to know the sustained write after TLC is depleted? Is it 675MB/s or higher?

  • ciprofloxacin on 29/12/2022 - 22:27
    +2

    Thanks OP - purchased two.

    I remember when I was completing my honours in 2016 that 500 GB SSD = $500 AUD. I don't think the sizes really went much higher than that…
    At the time, it was an equivalent of $1000 AUD for 1TB. Expensive technology at the time. Unfortunately, also limited storage size (64GB, 128GB, 256GB, and 512GB drives were the norm).

    With this deal, buying 2x drives affords 8TB for just over AUD $800.
    - that's one tenth of the price (per terabyte)
    - for much more advanced technology compared to 2016 (e.g. NVME 1.3, PCIe3 - sure, not the latest, but quite good!)
    - with 16 times the storage capacity.

    Pinch me, am I dreaming? That's a lot of progress in the technology over a period 8 years. More technologically savvy people will know it even better than me.

    Here's the cost of my order:

    Item(s) Subtotal:USD 485.98
    Shipping & Handling:USD 9.28
    Total before GST:USD 495.26
    Estimated GST:USD 49.52
    Grand Total:USD 544.78
    Payment Grand Total:AUD 818.98

    Very happy I can put my whole life's worth of data back on a laptop and take it around with me again without relying on cloud or having local files on a HDD attached to my home computer.

    • UsernameChecksIn on 29/12/2022 - 22:50
      +1

      Wait until you see the consumer PCIe 4.0 transfer throughput for another sixteen times

      put my whole life's worth of data back on a laptop

      Oh no - guard it with your life

      • good to still rely on another form of back up

      See $20/TB HDD and ~$100/TB SSD (~different tiers)

    • hamwhisperer on 30/12/2022 - 11:33

      That all might be the case but in 2014, we were getting multiple articles about 20, 40, 120TB SSDs coming "by 2018" if I recall.

      There was a 2 year period it all stopped, maybe due to flooding or something, but prices didn't move for a while, on regular HDDs or SSDs

  • Toxic on 29/12/2022 - 22:34

    Don't know much about drives, is it suitable for a normal PC? Have msi mag b550 tomahawk mb in my PC?

    • UsernameChecksIn on 29/12/2022 - 22:45
      +2

      Yes

      Quick search indicates those two M.2 slots support at least PCIe 3.0 x4

      • Toxic on 29/12/2022 - 23:15

        Thx mate

  • megadeth on 30/12/2022 - 00:20

    Considering it for my NAS as a cache but still unsure. Seems to tick all boxes i.e., DRAM, TLC, capacity, TBW etc.

    • s20525xxx on 30/12/2022 - 03:20

      This is very large for NAS cache though. 1TB should be plenty for most home NAS.

      • megadeth on 30/12/2022 - 06:09

        I was thinking 2TB for cache. Building a 6 bay with 16TBs (starting with 3 only).

      • [Deactivated] on 30/12/2022 - 11:27

        On what planet? You can fill 25 percent of that up with a single tv series at decent quality.

        • netsurfer on 30/12/2022 - 12:56
          +1

          He mentioned cache. The NAS still needs quite a few HDDs. You are not going to have 12 or 24 people watching different episode of a TV series concurrently at home.

          • [Deactivated] on 30/12/2022 - 17:56

            @netsurfer: Fair.

  • hamwhisperer on 30/12/2022 - 09:27
    +1

    "NOT SUITABLE FOR PS5" Nice - saved us time :)

  • pinchies on 31/12/2022 - 01:20

    Back in stock.

  • Skramit on 07/01/2023 - 08:42
    +1

    My payment just went through for this, AUD $412.16 using 28degrees card.

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