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Crucial P3 4TB PCIe Gen 3 NVMe M.2 (2280) SSD $404.77 Delivered @ Amazon US via AU

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Crucial P3 4TB PCIe Gen 3 NVMe M.2 (2280) SSD $404.77 Delivered @ Amazon US via AUAffiliate
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Tier 4 usage

Tier Specs Recommended Usage
1 TLC + DRAM Main system drive for power users
1X TLC + DRAM + Gen 4 PS5 expansion drive (if heatsink not bundled, adding heatsink highly recommended)
2 TLC + no DRAM Main system drive for everyday users
3 QLC + DRAM Secondary storage, can be main system drive in very cheap build
4 QLC + no DRAM Secondary bulk storage only

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CT4000P3SSD8
Controller: Phison E21T
Memory: Micron 176L QLC
DRAM Cache: n/a
Sequential Read: 3500 MB/s
Sequential Write: 3000 MB/s
Random Read: 650,000 IOPS
Random Write: 700,000 IOPS
Endurance (TBW): 800 TB
Warranty: 5 Years

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  • boondocksaint on 12/12/2022 - 09:57
    +24

    Upvoted for adding that tier list

  • netsurfer on 12/12/2022 - 10:01
    +4

    It's better not to rely on that table. A lot of SATA SSDs are TLC + DRAM so they are tier 1?

    P3 uses pSLC, which does make it a bit more tricky to evaluate.

    • Look Up on 12/12/2022 - 10:13

      Table is only used for NVMe deals

      SATA SSD's are at the stage you can go by brand:

      Tier 1 - Crucial, Samsung, WD, Seagate
      Tier 2 - SanDisk, Kioxia
      Tier 3 - Silicon Power, Patriot, Team, ADATA

      • reactor-au on 12/12/2022 - 10:14
        +9

        Crucial BX (QLC), MX (TLC) how is that the same tier??

        • xTerra on 12/12/2022 - 16:57

          BX is TLC without DRAM, still better than QLC

          • netsurfer on 12/12/2022 - 17:31
            +1

            @xTerra: Both 1TB and 2TB of BX500 are QLC. The other BX are inferior grade TLC. The inferior grade TLC does 100MB/s after SLC cache runs out.

            That's the issue relying on cell technology. Even for TLC, there are different grades too. Furthermore, even with the same model, different batches can use different grade of NAND flash. WD, Samsung, Crucial had all done NAND swap in their popular SSD models.

      • netsurfer on 12/12/2022 - 10:20
        +4

        If you looked at tier lists in most sites (i.e. LTT), they are generally done by controller.

        WD, Sandisk - same company now. With so many glue and go SSDs, this rely on brand doesn't make sense. Majority of tier 1 in your list have done NAND swap for a lot of their popular SSDs. BX500 isn't that great. MX500 apparently has DRAM reduced (in the newer batches).

        Some of the gen 4 SSDs, 2TB and 1TB versions behave differently.

      • FireRunner on 12/12/2022 - 11:27
        +5

        Bad advice, most name brands still produce different tier SATA SSDs

        Tier 1 - Crucial MX500, Samsung EVO 870, WD Blue
        Tier 2 - Crucial BX500, Silicon Power A55, WD Green
        Tier 3 - Samsung QVO 870

        I don’t know if there’s any DRAM-less QLC, maybe some of the higher capacity cheap ones like the BX500
        Also I’d choose the QVO 870 over any of the options listed in Tier 2. DRAM seems to be more important with SATA than with NVMe so I’d swap Tier 2 and Tier 3 if looking at SATA drives

        • skillet on 13/12/2022 - 09:43

          Brand snob. Better off looking into the nand controllers and reviews before purchase.

  • lordezekiel on 12/12/2022 - 11:30
    -1

    Where does my nearly 10 year old Samsung 840 EVO 1TB 2.5" SSD fit into everyone's made up tier charts?

    • FireRunner on 12/12/2022 - 11:34
      +3

      Looks to be TLC with DRAM so Tier 1?
      The tier chart is pretty rough, the controller is an important component that is not accounted for

    • netsurfer on 12/12/2022 - 12:29
      +1

      Suppose to be in "tier 1", but we know that SSD has the infamous slow old data read issue and requires a firmware workaround.
      But we know what OP is going to say, the tier list is for NVMe SSDs only.

    • DmytroP on 12/12/2022 - 12:36

      In some cases (like writing a large amount of data at once) it may be faster than some current QLC drives.

  • Korny on 12/12/2022 - 11:36

    Actually pretty good deal, even considering the Plus version is $639 from scorptec.. :)
    i still don't understand why we get punished from AU wholesalers and resellers for components :|

  • pinchies on 12/12/2022 - 11:45

    Edit : I missed the Gen 4 in 1X, but you can also get QLC Gen 4 drives too.

    The table is good, but it doesn’t distinguish between the different max speeds of SATA, NVME Gen 3, and NVME Gen 4.

    E.g — this deal is for a Gen 3 TLC drive.

    • s3n on 13/12/2022 - 08:00

      Isn’t QLC performance below Gen 3 so Gen 4 won’t make any difference?

  • innoboii88 on 12/12/2022 - 12:43

    How is it to use PS5? Is it compatible enough to get a good gaming experience.

    • netsurfer on 12/12/2022 - 12:49

      It is not for PS5. Crucial elected to disable PCIe gen 4 support on this SSD, despite E21T is capable of supporting that.
      This SSD supports up to PCIe gen 3 only.

  • netsurfer on 12/12/2022 - 13:43
    +2

    If you are after an SSD tier list, it is better to check: https://linustechtips.com/topic/1092033-ssd-tier-list/

    Do note that:

    • The list now puts PCIe gen 5 x4 SSDs in tier S.
    • The list is missing newer SSDs such as 990 Pro, SN850X, NV2, P3 (this SSD) etc…

    P3 should be in tier E (budget).

  • Scrobo on 12/12/2022 - 14:03

    How slow does this get on really big file writes?

    • kogi on 12/12/2022 - 14:17
      +1

      Down to 100MBps

      Since it's pSLC, the cache size is about 1/4 of your free space.

    • netsurfer on 12/12/2022 - 14:21
      +2

      It uses pSLC, so initially, it can write approximately 1TB of data at SLC speed. After that, being pSLC, it has to do recovery and re-write the data in QLC. So, if your usage pattern is that you will write 1TB max initially. Then, download new games to that SSD, then it should be all fine. Otherwise, you might want to wait for it to complete the recovery. Once fully recovered, you probably get another 700 to 500GB of pSLC. During recovery, the write speed (after pSLC is exhausted), is around 100MB/s.

      • V003 on 13/12/2022 - 08:55

        oh that was easy to understand. thanks

      • Scrobo on 14/12/2022 - 14:32

        Thanks, typically writing 2TB at a time, so I'll give it a miss.

  • typhoonadventure on 12/12/2022 - 18:49

    The search for an affordable ps5 compatible 4tb ssd continues…

    My kidneys are staying inside me thank you.

    • kZ26 on 12/12/2022 - 20:05
      +1

      same same

    • FarQ on 15/12/2022 - 09:21

      Crucial P3 Plus is meant to be PS5 compatible. QLC and DRAMless though.
      $466.42, ships from amazon US https://amzn.asia/d/ecvq35o

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