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Wow - this or black Friday?
i think at least wait until Nov 3 to see what RX 7000 series offers
It is 2 years from the last new AMD GPU architectures to appear and we are 8 days away from the RX 7000 announcement, I think this tired old joke can rest for a bit.
@frostman: You know you can just order from USA website and it will be here by DHL in 2 days, faster than local Auspost.
You know you can just order from USA website and it will be here by DHL in 2 days, faster than local Auspost.
Let me introduce you to economy 101 given you skipped school - currency exchange matters.
We have seen proper 6950, 6900 and now 6700 deals this week
This means RDNA 3 is seriously going to kick ass
Why?
AMD and AIB's are clearing the price points that RDNA 3 will drop in at
Ohhhh i get ya now. I read it as meaning RDNA3 had some new super software to go with it ;-)
Yeah but when you're buying low SKUs it's all about price to performance. The 7600 will probably cost more and perform the same.
Note that the 6950 non-xt and the 6900 non-xt don't exist (yet, anyway), it's probably wise to explicitly state the XT, especially when we're talking about a card that has both an XT and a semi-new non-XT variant.
So we can be absolutely sure on what they are talking about shouldn't they have also said RX before it too, as well Radeon in front of that, can't forget to let them know the manufacturer is AMD, and that these are graphics cards we are talking about?
So they should have said
'We have seen proper AMD Radeon RX 6950XT, AMD Radeon RX 6900XT, and now AMD Radeon RX 6700 graphic card deals this week.'
Don't forget the trademarks.
🙄 Obviously not — I take this situation more like someone saying, for example, "4090Ti"/"4080Ti" when referring to the regular 4090/4080 — One could argue that adding the suffix is different than omitting it, but regardless it's still referring to a completely different card in both cases, even if the other doesn't exist yet (and it's not like a tier without a non-xt variant won't get one later down the line - see this chipset as a very relevant example)
Now if nvidia started using RTX 4080 and GTX 4080 to mean one supports RTRT, and the other doesn't - that's when I'd argue you should include the prefix, but the prefix isn't exactly an important distinction currently (barring "7000-series" which is ambiguous with current CPUs & shortly TBA GPUs), and I don't imagine nvidia would make a variant of a RTRT card that doesn't support it, and just change the prefix to their old one.
@eepykate: Except the point was less about the specific GPUs that have been on sale and more that the recent deals on the RX 6000 series GPUs are suggesting that RDNA 3 is going to 'kick ass'. To which point you made no acknowledgement of and you just wanted to do an ackchyually, which was unnecessary. I tried to highlight you are being pedantic, but you seem to be missing the meanings of posts.
To which you made no acknowledgement of
Yes, because I take most things regarding the future with an ocean of salt - It's more natural for me to focus on what's happened, or what's currently happening, hence I focused on that part of the statement.
which was unnecessary
I entirely disagree, ambiguity is a huge issue when it comes to topics like this due to nvidia/amd's shoddy naming schemes, so I feel it's best to let people know to avoid future scenarios where it could actually be very unclear — Like, there are people in this thread that didn't know/forgot the non-xt 6700 existed, which isn't helped by referring to XT cards in the same breath as non-XT cards without a mention of the XT.
For reference, I've always thought that something like 3085 instead of 3080Ti is a better name - it also leaves room for something like 3084 instead of 3080 12GB, the 6<x>50 XT line of cards were very close, but they missed the mark by being separate to the regular 6<x>00 XTs, instead of simply replacing that naming scheme.I tried to highlight you are being pedantic
I mean, it didn't help that you & the person who replied to you in agreement were doing a major strawman — The "AMD Radeon RX" prefix currently carries very little meaning, but the XT suffix dictates an entirely different card - it would've 100% been better if OP said 6000-series, but the issue is they were being specifically unspecific.
@eepykate: "ocean of salt", "a huge issue", "I feel it's best", "very unclear", "major strawman", " would've 100% been better". Hahaha your post did give me a good chuckle. This discussion is about as petty as it can get in life and your language is escalating this subject matter to the extreme. My first post to you here was petty and it was mocking your pedantic comment to highmargin.
This is what you consider a major straw man argument is, of all the things a straw man argument could be made of, if you'd rank them, this is a major one to you? The naming convention wasn't even important to the point of the original poster, the correct name wouldn't change their point at all, you turned the discussion to how to best to write a products name down. You even agreed that you ignored the real point, that you did not address or refute it, but instead replaced the topic with a different subject and that is what a straw man argument is. Why is it gtk, those who cry foul are often the perpetrators?
I wonder now if I've escalated it from a major straw man argument to a humongous straw man argument? I'm not sure what should be the discussion now though, the point of the original poster which you did not address, GPU naming conventions, what a straw man argument is, or something new for us to be petty about?
This discussion is about as petty as it can get in life and your language is escalating this subject matter to the extreme.
I agree that it's petty - but don't we all need a bit of low stakes passionate argumentation in our lives? 🙃
And as for my language; that's just how I speak - autism moment I guess.You even agreed that you ignored the real point, that you did not address or refute it, but instead replaced the topic with a different subject and that is what a straw man argument is.
I said I focused on a single part of the statement, and I took it as closer to two points, "There have been good deals on these 3 GPUs recently" and "due to that, I'm expecting rdna3 to be very good", rather than a single "Due to recent good deals on the RX 6000-series, I'm expecting RDNA3 to be very good".
My comment was entirely regarding the former point - conflating XT/Ti and non-XT/Ti models is a bad habit, and while not super important in this scenario, could be quite unclear in others.I didn't see a reason to respond to the latter point, because due to being in the future & leaks not being reliable it's unknowable — We'll at least get a hint in a week when AMD plans to announce RDNA3 (2022-11-04 @ 0600 AEST).
I wonder now if I've escalated it from a major straw man argument to a humongous straw man argument?
Nah not at all - By that I was specifically referring to the conflation of the 'XT' suffix and the 'Radeon RX' prefix, not your argument in general. Admittedly 'major' was useless (again, just how I speak) but that escalation was funny so arguably the needless adjective was worth it :)
Those idiots on eBay paying 300 for 2060 supers feels bad
Eh, 66% more $ for 0 to 20% better FPS (depending on the game) doesn't exactly sound amazing, even if the 2060s is used.
Where are you getting 0-20% from? Tomshardware suggests it's 46% better at 1440 and 52% better at 1080
Edit: actually those numbers are for the 6700xt, and TH doesn't have data on the 6700
Yeah I think many people in this thread are making the same mistake. It's not the 6700 xt, just the newer, slower 6700.
It's hard to find benchmarks for, since it wasn't part of the original line up, but basically it's closer to the 6600 xt than the 6700 xt.
Here's one comparing all 3:
@GandalfTheCheap: Yeah I hadn't even realised that a 6700 non-xt existed. They didn't exactly make much of the announcement it seems, and you're right, there's very few reviews out.
Is the 6700 10gn and 6700xt 12gb? Didn't know there was a difference in vram
Forgot this card existed lol
Now if this was an XT version … can’t be far off, we’ve had them for just over $530 already.
And still happy I pulled the trigger on one.
This isn't much faster than a 6600 XT which has been $349. You don't get gimped PCI-e bandwidth though.
Pretty good price. I just dropped 450 on a used mini 3060ti with plenty of warranty. I would have bought this it it were available but I prefer Nvidia for dlss and their comparability for ai stuff.
Oh mate I just bought a used 3070ti (oc, triple fans) with plenty of warranty left too. Got it off auction for $600
Yeah did the same for similar reasons
RX 6700 vs RX 6700TX
Stream Processors: 2304 vs 2560
Infinity Cache: 80MB vs 96 MB
Memory Size: 10GB vs 12GB
Memory Bus 160 bit vs 192 bit
Bandwidth 320.0 GB/s vs 384.0 GB/s
Boost Clock: Up to 2495 MHz vs 2581 MHz
Game Clock: Up to 2330 MHz vs 2424 MHzOr just mention the Time spy score and VRAM - gives you the ball park figure of its performance ;) Seems like this is closer to 6600XT than 6700XT.
I was just curious myself and though some people here would want to know the differences :D
There is about a 15% difference performance wise
Since I have a 5700XT, I'd probably need to go for a 6800 XT to see a serious bump in performance.
Look it's not bad but we've seen cheaper 6700XTs haven't we?
Besides, November 3rd is next week, just Hodl a little bit longer, you're so close!
I have a feeling its going to be dissappointing. But will never know.
Let's see, Nvidia pushing the 4090 well well past it's efficiency curve to 450-550W, has me quietly hopeful AMD are either bluffing really well, or may have the real deal here.
Oh, price wise. Performance wise I think they will be close to nvdia but RT not as great.
I think we're all skeptical. With an oligopoly, there's hardly any price pressure on them to start significantly lower than Nvidia. And I'd be surprised if Nvidia priced their cards so high without having some info about whether AMD would follow suit.
Huang will milk till the last moment.
The 6700 10gb is like 10% faster then a rx6600xt no joke its really a small jump.. but thr good thing is its power usage tdp is at 175w
Now all im waiting for is a 6600 XT for $359!
Here's a great review of the card for anyone interested in how it performs vs other cards
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FkQdAViLIsThis is rx 6700 NON XT. I was excited thinking it was XT version. As a NON xt 6700, it is a less exciting deal.
Got a used 6700XT for $400 with some light haggling on price (was listed at $430). Not a sapphire model though, got a gigabyte 3 fan.
ebay or fb marketplace?
FB Marketplace. Did have to drive about 30km but to me it was worth it :)
Was only used for 10 months, gaming only (bless AMD for making 6000 series shit at mining lol).I got a 6700xt red devil mined for 2 months for $400, i took the risk and currently having decent rewards. Only time will tell.
I think this is still a good buy@XCelR8: Agreed, 2 months ain't too shabby! Hope you've got some GPU sag support on that beauty, the Red Devil is a chonker.
Someone is selling a 6700 xt msi mech for $409
Still under warranty until 29/11..
Thoughts?
@impoze: Are u willing to risk (possibly high risk) to buy a card mined with for 3 contant years with no warranty?
@LuslecGrace: Agreed, personally I wouldn't buy a card that's been mined for more than 3 months. I'd rather pay up to $50 more for the peace of mind.
@heef: Most I'd be willing for is 6 months. I've personally never bought one that has been mined with and i still wouldn't consider that lol. Nothing beats a little extra cash for the peace of mind. A better feeling than worried the card might stop working.
There's multiple available that I've seen locally in Sydney, but have all been mined on. Average deal imo
Mine wasn't mined on, 10 months in a kid's gaming rig. I don't expect retail to go down to $400 for at least 2-3 months so definitely not average.
I could have bought one as low as $375, and about a dozen at $400 from what must have been a mining set up. I just don't think it's good value right now with prices still dropping. I'd expect them to be had for $300 shortly, which is when i might pick up a couple off marketplace for my secondary PCs
@scottySK: Well I hope you are right for people hodling, but I just don't see them getting that low so soon :)
Wake me up when 6700xt this price
I dont know why people are buying this when I managed the buy the HD6950 card for $400 used of ebay
HD 6950 is a very different card to the RX 6950 😂
Maybe I should see what eBay kids will pay for my old HD 7770 once RX 7000 series drops next month…
Some history…
One of the HD6950 models was identical to the HD6970 just with a different bios that locked some of the units. They could be flashed to HD6970 and in almost all cases would work with no problems.It was another case of AMD "accidentally" providing enthusiasts with a huge performance gain for nothing just like with the Opteron 165 which would take a 50% overclock with zero effort.
Bro.. did you get scammed buying a HD6950 ? :)
I hope you’re joking otherwise you paid $400 for a card from 2010
Good news
Radeon RX 7000 Series Won't Use 16-pin 12VHPWR, AMD Confirms
https://www.techpowerup.com/300252/radeon-rx-7000-series-won…
Holy..