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PNY RTX 3080 Ti XLR8 Gaming Uprising Epic-X RGB 12GB Graphics Card $1199 + Delivery ($0 MEL C&C) + Surcharge @ Evatech

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Preempting the inevitable comments below;

HODL! RTX 4090/4080 IMMINENT?
Official announcement 21/09/22 here in Australia. I think it's about 1am AEST? Actual sales date typically being a week or so after that.
Scenario A - New cards are priced competitively and even this heavily discounted 3080 Ti is a bad deal.
Scenario B - New cards are VERY expensive and a $1199 3080 Ti is still a great deal price/perf-wise.
We have zero knowledge of actual 4000 pricing, only the same rumors floating around the internet that everyone else has seen.

HODL! CHEAP USED MINING CARDS IMMINENT?
Maybe, but to what degree? There will always be people who prefer brand new with a solid warranty over a no-warranty card with questionable age and origin. Especially for a non-trivial dollar value.

Anywho; place your bets. Only time will tell!

Edit

Just to throw our hat in the prediction ring with all the comments below; we'll leave it here for prosperity posterity and see revisit post announcement to see how far off everyone was.

Warning : Pure Speculation Ahead
(AUD inc GST pricing)

  • RTX4090 24G $2800 to $3000 - Start of October
  • RTX4080 16G $1799 - Late October / Early Nov
  • RTX4080 12G $1499 - Late October / Early Nov
  • RTX3060 / 3060 Ti / 3070 Ti refresh (faster DRAM) - Before Christmas
  • RTX4070 $1299 - Q1 2023 depending on 3000 series sell through

First wave of cards Nvidia force everyone to sell non-OC models only and at MSRP, but constrain quantities so they sell out on purpose in the first week or two. Then AIB OC models hit 3-4 weeks later and 10-20% over MSRP and MSRP models are hard to come by.

Also worth remembering, 4000 series might need an expensive PCI-E Gen5 PSU upgrade to support the transient voltage spikes, at least the high end ones will. Making the GPU upgrade of effectively cost $300-400 higher again.

hope we're wrong!

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  • +19

    I'm thinking Scenario B is most likely unfortunately.

    • +21

      I'm thinking if you look at the bill of materials on the proposed 16GB 4080, and consider the chip order volumes that NVIDIA have committed to and tried to get out of, that there's zero reason why that SKU won't be sold at $699 USD starting price.

      There's no crypto demand, limited consumer demand, and lots of supply. It's ripe for consumers, and for some nice price drops before the end of the year.

      • Although if you read the Q2 Earnings report from Jenson at Nvidia, he said they will be price placing these alongside the new 40 series, so don't be surprised if they launch a 4080 at $1500+ AUD, at least until they have sold through the stock of 30 series

        • +1

          God, even paying $1000 for my 3080 got me abit antsy (wasn't as bad looking back how bad the prices got AFTER launch)

          • @charliejhd: My cousin bought a 3070 for $1300 lol

          • @charliejhd: (profanity) I paid 680 for a 3060.

            Like it's been worth it to have it for 2 years but damn was it a rort.

            • @sackrace: I paid $500 for my 3060 like a month ago and have rarely been happier with a purchase. It's let me go wild on stable diffusion which my 3gb 1060 couldn't do, and I'm running training on embeddings using 11.5gb of the ram every night. As long as you've been using it for 2 years, it's been good value, since I doubt they'll get below say $300 even with a few more months, with lost time not actually been able to use the card (though am happy to be proven wrong).

        • +6

          I can see the 16GB 4080 going for $1500. The standard 12GB should be $1200 max then.
          These 3080Ti's really need to be pushed out the door for $999.

          • @Crownie: Just wait a little for RTX 40 series press release then you'll easily able to buy new 3080Ti for well under $899..

            3080Ti/3090/3090Ti are super overstocked everywhere atm.. and who wants to buy them now when the 40 series is just around the corner?

        • +1

          That means they will continue to price drop as they go EoL. The Samsung process involved is discounted, and has been in production since 2016, so it's dirt cheap at this point.

          There will be 3080 and under cards sold until the 4070 and 4060 are in full swing, just as there are still 2060 cards still being sold today due to a combination of limited low-end designs and previously huge demand.

          The TSMC 4nm process involved has way better yields at this point than anything Samsung has done in almost a decade, and as wafer prices drop (which they would have done so substantially already), you'll see budget SKU models start to come into the swing of things. This is the generation where things start to correct. That the density gain seems to be as much as 2.7x just brings this into focus, as it puts AD103 in at around 370 sqmm (smaller than GA104).

          The generation after this will drive the economics of things even more in favour of NVIDIA, but without harming consumers, and likely while providing power consumption saving.

      • They are going to probably hold onto the stock to try and inflate demand. They have ordered way too much, and their recent profits make them think it'll keep that way.

        • +1

          They're not that daft. They have TSMC costs to consider, but if they want higher margins, they'll just devote wafers to optimal returns.

          There's warehousing and shipping costs to consider if they want to hold onto supply.

      • I don't think there's zero reason to keep prices high: they need to get rid of massive amounts of excess ampere, and low prices on lovelace will make it very tough to sell ampere at anywhere near break-even, given the leaked performance increases.

        But as you say, that has to be balanced against the overall market downturn across several fronts. Personally I'm expecting moderately higher prices compared to previous launch but nothing too crazy (except perhaps for the 4090) — maybe a AU$1300-1400 4080. Guess we'll all find out soon…

      • I think they'll price them at whatever they think people will pay for the performance they offer… so I'd expect massive hype, cherry picking results and a 20+% price hike over 3000 series starting prices. Then if the demand isn't there, they'll drop prices. I expect opening prices to be eye watering

      • Ok I've clearly underestimated the performance bump of this architecture… it's crazy good.

        Price has gone up accordingly through the R&D work… but the feature set and the performance won't have you caring about what you're getting for the previous price points…

      • The RTX 4080 will release second in November and will start at the below prices for the Founder’s Edition (which we aren’t sure if Australia is getting this time around).

        RTX 4080 (12GB) will start at $1,659 AUD
        RTX 4080 (16GB) will start at $2,219 AUD

        https://press-start.com.au/news/tech-news/2022/09/21/austral…

        • +1

          Can you not see that I've replied to my own comment?

          The price/performance of the 4080 cards does not hold, the chip costs are miniscule.

          AMD won't have the same feature set, but they are going to win a lot of mindshare and sales if NVIDIA cling to these price points while AMD offer mostly competing cards in the $900-$1700 AUD range versus their $1500-$2900.

          They need their DLSS and raytracing catalogue to massively expand, by at least an order of magnitude. The 4090 pricing is fine given the die cost, but the rest needs to shift.

          That, or the Lovelace whitepaper needs to show easy implemented techniques to massively boost raster performance.

      • Come to this comment after knowing the pricing of 4080 is really hilarious lol

        • Launch date isn't even finalised, so I would wait until after AMD have announced their pricing before calling it a day. Didn't factor in the extra silicon costs coming in after NVIDIA built their chip, but would be shocked if the 16GB model costs more than $749-$849 USD once everything has settled down.

          NVIDIA have a lot of 30 series cards to sell it seems, feel free to buy one if you want. :)

    • +1

      looks like it too based on Jayztwocents video. Explains the big gap between 4090 and 4080 too.

    • +6

      It will be scenario A again, especially because crypto and pandemic demand will be much lower.

      When the 3000 series was about to come out, the 2080ti dropped from 1.9-2.2k to 1.6-1.9k then to 1.1-1.3k, which still wasn't a good deal compared to an overpriced $1.5k 3080 which was both better value and better absolute performance. A <$1.3k 3080 definitely made the 2080ti a bad deal.

      2 years ago the RRP for the 3080 was $1139 with street around 1.2-1.5k. A 3080ti 2 years later for $1200 is not a discount, it's a return to normal pricing, and actually quite high considering how close we are to the release of the next generation.

      • +1

        People who were willing to pay higher prices have already paid them during the pandemic, so I believe right now it's mostly people who aren't willing to pay high prices. Nvidia will sell hardly any 40 series GPUs and worsen their overstock issues if they don't price the 40 series competitively.

    • agree on it being B… with so many holding out, they'll wanna cash in with the suckers.

    • +1

      If you look at what they are thought to be releasing, they will put the cards above the existing ones in price and performance. However, that means the 3090 has to slide in below the 4080:12G / 4070Ti

      As such the 3080 Ti to be cheaper still.

      This price is still too high

  • +3

    It will be scenario A, it's just a question of when a 4070 launch occurs. It may be November/December.

    That being said, the price competition of the 4090 and 4080 models will push this down to around $700 if it's still being sold. It's non-competitive against full AD104 with 12GB of VRAM, which may be sold as 4080 12GB model, and may start at around $900.

    • +1

      Not entirely sure about that. Some viet website leaked/uploaded a oreorder for a 4090 at about US$2100…

      I sincerely hope that's wrong lol. Would sincerely love if someone had some alternatives pricing?

      https://www.tweaktown.com/news/88440/nvidia-geforce-rtx-4090…

      • Vietnam's sales tax is 10%, their logistics cost for supply of cards is trickier than AU and US too, and I did say starting price.

        The 4090 uses an AD102 chip, and it is 144 SM max compared with 84 SM of AD103 and 60 SM of AD104. I'd expect it to cost $1500 - $1700 USD, pre-tax.

        It's a massive, much more difficult to make chip, and is completely irrelevant to the rest of the series. Same thing occurred with the 2080 Ti ($1200) and 3090 ($1500).

        • +1

          With your numbers, that makes the 3090 25% more expensive than the 3080ti. Going with the same margin for the 4000 series, that would make the "4080ti" about US$1600-1900 - our sales tax is the same, so take off whatever the difference is between "Vietnam difficulty tax" vs "aussie difficulty tax" - even at say $1400 USD, that's still over AU$2000 now.

          I just hope the preorder pricing is wrong.

          • +1

            @incipient: I have absolutely no idea how you can read what I wrote and start going down this path, beyond explaining to you how chip design works.

            As you increase in chip size, the failure rate goes up non-linearly, i.e. somewhat exponentially. Thus, the price of a larger chip is significantly more because you're getting less per wafer and less successful chips per wafer. The more perfect you need the die to be, the more this jumps up also. This is part of why professional and semi-professional cards cost so much.

            You can use basic arithmetic to figure out the prices of the rest of the series. Trust me when I say the AD103 die cost is much lower, and that there is nothing about the bill of materials for the rumoured 4080 and 4070 cards that suggest anything is going to break into new price brackets.

            We're just getting an early 4070 Super/Ti with a 4080 badge thrown on, probably because the 4070 stock levels won't be ready in time for the normal launch cycle. That's all, and it's very similar to what AMD did with the RX 6800XT and 6800.

            • @jasswolf: I get the concept of price being non-linear with die size (due to complexity and failure rates). I was just assuming the same size ratio/price ratio from 3080Ti->3090, and 4080Ti->4090 using your price comparison above.

              • +2

                @incipient: 4090 is 128 SM of 144 enabled, 4080 16GB is 76 of 84 SM enabled. There's room for a 4080 Ti to be AD103 based, though limited.

                The AD102-based option would likely return to the 1080 Ti style of card, where it is part of a refresh once the relevant chip binning is substantially cheaper, and it would use less and slower VRAM than the 4090, along with a smaller bus.

                Either way, don't use the 3080 Ti and 3090 comparison. The 3080 Ti would have been $999 USD at most in a normal market.

  • +1

    These should also come with free Spider Man.

    https://www.nvidia.com/en-au/geforce/campaigns/pc-game-bundl…

  • +1

    any deals on RTX3090 ?

  • A month ago people were still buying these for $1600-1700. What idiots lol.

    New cards are VERY expensive and a $1199 3080 Ti is still a great deal price/perf-wise

    The 3080 Ti and 3090 will have a poor price/perf ratio due to being so similar in performance to the 3080 and 6800 XT. A $600 USD 4070 Ti would make ~$800 6800 XTs and 3080s look quite good though. Nvidia will likely price Lovelace high while they still have so many Ampere cards they're trying to sell and then discount Lovelace when facing competition from AMD's new generation which is reportedly a lot cheaper to make than Lovelace.

    I do respect a store rep informing buyers that their purchase could lose a lot of value over the next few months.

    • -1

      No way a 4070ti will be 600usd, even the normal 4070 won't be 600usd. 4070 is going to be at least 900usd so 4070ti will be 1200usd.

      • +1

        A 4070 Ti will offer 3090 performance. It isn't going to be $1200 USD when 3090s are beginning to sell for under $700 USD on Ebay, and the fallout from the end of crypto mining is only just starting. Plus it'll launch after the launch of RNDA 3, which is going to utterly destroy Ngreedia.

    • Agreed need to consider AMDs new upcoming offerings aswell.

    • -7

      The only idiots are the HODLers who'll pay $1500 for 4080 next month. They could have bought 3080 for $999.

      • +3

        The 4080 will be a ~60% performance uplift over the 3080, so the $1500 4080 is actually a better deal lol.

        Even the 3080 was a ~67% jump over the 2080, and the node advantage of Ampere over Turing was tiny.

      • The only idiots are the non-LHR buyers who paid an absolute fortune at peak pricing only to see software kill the non-LHR advantage lol

        • +2

          the more idiots are the ones who bought my 3080 non-LHR cards for $2200 after being mined for a year.

          • @[Deactivated]: That's relatively true. But idiots were also mining smalltime farms rather than applying their interest to the Melbourne/Sydney property markets. If they weren't biased for their love of their pc hardware hobby and focused on property they would've been a lot better off.

            Crypto was essentially smallplay and a distraction. You're talking like 3k max profit per 3080 over 2 years. Houses went up like 600k in that time lol.

          • @[Deactivated]: Haha can't argue with that one.

  • +14

    i am telling you… it will be under $1k.. in 30 days… take it from a gpu miner.. who spend 10k in the past 6months buying gpus

    • +11

      yep gonna be a GPU flood which will include a lot of 3000 series
      Far too much mining power for any other coin to be profitable especially in aus with expensive power

      Even if you want a new card the market will have to drop as it will still effect demand for new cards

      • +1

        Can't see why not, especially with the ETH merge already finalised.

      • +5

        This. Millions of GPUs are about to flood onto the secondary market.

        • +5

          You probably won't be finding them on ebay though, at least not on the Australian one. I don't think the miners with 100s or thousands of cards were mining in a country that doesn't have cheap/free electricity.

      • is there any place to buy used mining cards like RTX3090 ? used prices in Ebay are more expensive than brandnew with deal

      • The merge already happen, we should have already seen a flood of cards. It would only be the small time miners selling their rigs, the big boys will just move to bitcoin or some other alt coin.

        • +4

          You can't mine Bitcoin with graphics card.

        • +5

          A bunch of miners have moved to EthClassic and other coins, but the size of those coins compared to ethereum is tiny, so none of them are making profit if they have any running costs at all.

          The real question is whether the miners will just sit on their cards (which likely already paid for themselves 3 times over) because they don't care enough to sell them (or they gamble that another PoW coin will take off and grow big), or whether they will see dumping them as an opportunity for one final payout to increase their ROI.
          I'm sure various miners will fall into all three of those camps, but hopefully enough sell off to make a big dent.

          • @ssfps: Indeed - hashrate.no makes it easy to calculate profitability (after electricity usage) and it's simply not worth mining at the moment based on the country's high electricity prices. I've got solar and it's really only worthwhile for me to main during daylight hours (currently from about 9am to 4pm) so it's not really worth the trouble.

        • lol.. just wait for it… go to whattomine.com you punch in any gpu there… and see if anything profitable… and try to make sense buying gpu at this price

    • Man if I see a 3080 12GB version for under 1k I'm buying it instantly.

      • +4

        Lol might even go lower.. don't rush and keep an eye on the market and what AMD announce, even if your an nvidia only customer… If AMD release 3 models and they are better than 3000 series equivalent by a good magin these can drop further… Should be an interesting month or two

        • +1

          Yeah I will be patient and wait. After watching the awful prices of the last couple years I honestly can't say I expected these prices lol. Pretty stoked

          • +1

            @dazza-bo: yeh it was crazy… i sold cards at high prices but then again i bought a 3060 single fan at $700 … and it wont surprise me to see a 3080 go that low .. haha luckily i didnt lose any money as such .. so there's that :)

    • +1

      Finally someone tells the truth. I totally agree with you. This card IMO will be around $600 - $700 by the end of this year.

    • Yeah.. thanks for the artificial scarcity….. especially given crypto miners are hugely responsible (not totally to blame, but certainly by all means not blameless) for the current situation.

  • +11

    HODL!

    • +4

      Had to scroll far down for this, its getting close then lol

  • +1

    3090 this price and sold

  • +8

    Will this power a 38 inch monitor? Asking for a friend

    • +2

      Of course. It's not like the monitor size matters.

    • +3

      This will power multiple monitors. The important details are the resolution and the refresh rate of the monitors youre running. Playing games in 4k (resolution) 60 (refresh rate) is generally taxing on many cards but this card will handle most games with no problem.

    • +1

      gpu check shows the typical 3080ti graphics VS FPS across different resolutions.

      for a 3080ti on ultra graphics, you can expect:

      Average 1080p Performance 241.8 FPS
      Average 1440p Performance 182.0 FPS
      Average 4K Performance 112.6 FPS

    • +1

      People are missing a point about38 inch monitor. Not true ozbargainers, are they?

      • You mean his non existent 38 inch monitor?

        • +1

          I mean everyone’s 38 inch monitor who started this morning with browsing this site.

  • +2

    Interesting discussion, thanks for the transparency and info rep!

  • +5

    It'll be B. I've been saying all along, no way Nvidia are going to go back to low priced cards. The 4090 is going to be $2800 in Australia, the 4080 is going to be $1800-2000.

    • +2

      I kind of concur with your ballpark predictions… at least in the immediate term. Unless someone unlocks an idea at Nvidia on how to offset the losses on their recent 3000 series glut with massive throughput on their new cards. They'll manipulate the prices in the market such that there's a place for the 3000 series to co-exist with the 4000 for at least a year (or until sold out).

    • +1

      It'll be mostly B for October if prices for 2nd hand sales don't plummet. In November RDNA 3 will launch, that will blow Lovelace out of the water from a price/perf perspective. Nvidia will need to cut prices or sell no cards. Unlike Nvidia, AMD didn't overproduce RDNA 2 so they'll be eager for RDNA 3 sales.

  • +1

    I go scenario c, whereby GPU card manufacturers compete with themselves and 2nd market. Prices will be released high then comes down after a couple of weeks depending on sale volume.

    nvidia profit takes a downturn as less demand.

  • Are PNY cards good? Especially with these high-end cards, their cooling must be pretty decent?

  • +9

    Great will get 10 of them and start mining Eth. Wish me luck!!! 🚀🚀

  • -2

    4070 = 3090

    4090 = 2x faster in bench score than 3090

    4090 is around 900 USD

    Assuming 4070 is around 600 USD

    which is 900 AUD with premium and tax it can go up to $1200

    • dreaming

      • +1

        specwise it's confirmed for a long time.

        pricewise

        I don't think 4070 is more expensive than $1200

        3080 release price was $1200

  • +6

    Wouldn't even buy it for $999 waste of money let them suffer there losses and excess stock

    They bleeding green

    There predicted profits and sales all down and will continue that way if people refuse to pay ridiculous prices for cards

    • -4

      HODLer with $500 budget like you won't be able to buy any 40xx series with the pricing mentioned by BPC above.

      You might want to check second hand PS3 or Xbox 360.

      • RTX3060 is within $500 budget and it is good. Might be RTX3070 in the same price range after few months

      • +2

        Seem abit upset mate go back in your penalty box nobody cares for your constant heckling and harassment

        • -4

          hahahahahahahaha

        • -4

          SOLD OUT AGAIN. HODLers gonna piss their pants again LOL

  • +4

    Euthereum has merged today, so hopefully we'll have even cheaper cards

  • +7

    Ebay is rapidly filling up with ex mining cards as we speak as they all realise the altcoins have become instantly unprofitable with the added hashing power. I think the funny/sad thing is i can see some people are buying 2nd hand ex-mining cards on ebay for more $ than new retail cards! Bit embarrassing :) My guess would be as the market becomes oversaturated in the next week and most of the ebay listings expire with no sales when they are reilisted in a week prices will be down… a LOT

  • +1

    HODL, but also don't expect to be able to buy the new gen cards easily (for a reasonable price anyway) for at least a month or two after they launch.

  • 1 month ago this is a good deal.

    Now I am suggesting to wait for Nvidia and AMD releasing their new series GPU. It doesn’t matter the new one is good or expensive pricing but it will significantly shake down the 3000s market. Moreover, the flood of mining GPU is right there and we don’t have that much capacity to hold these stocking anywhere in the world.

    Now I am just waiting for new 3080 10gb to drop less than 800 AUD

  • +7

    My prediction:

    There wont be enough stock of the 4XXX series so people are going to start scooping up the 3080/3080ti's which results in the 3xxx series going up in price again as stock will become limited again

    • +3

      This, anyone expecting abundance of 4000 or 7000 series is dreaming.

      Unless the performance of 4000 series is disappointing, don't think we'll see 3000 pricing increase, rather it will keep the 3000 series from dropping to some of the fanstical lows that are being predicted here.

      • Thing is, Nvidia has to book their FAB volumes months/years in advance. Rumour is they booked the 40 series manufacturing numbers with the assumption mining would keep driving sales. So now they have a surplus supply contract they cant dip out of. Nobody wants to buy the capacity off them either as everyone on the same process is facing the same market.

        • +1

          This is not the first crypto boom n bust Nvidia has gone through but even if the above was true, it's not like silicon has the short-life of perishable goods, all they will do is hold back the chips and cut down future orders. It's not in Nvidias, AIBs or even AMD's interest for Nvidia to just flood the market and significantly lower prices. They will stick to their usual playbook (which they all do) of not enough stock at launch regardless of the pile of silicon they are sitting on (imo)

          • @Osiris: At the moment there is nothing to mine for with eth merging.. Maybe a boom will make it slightly better on alt coins.. Then again maybe not so changes to crypto prices have less impact at the moment… Also it's not just silicon they are buying its the node technology and they can't sit on a node forever.. (ehem Intel)..
            No stock at launch will be a thing like u say, AMD can take some market share if they release more models at higher stock levels.. If nvidia decide to artificially create shortages to sell through current supply.. So there's some pressure there too. Should be very interesting to see what happens.

    • Absolutely spot on. There is still stock issues with almost everything in the world so why would new cards be different.

    • +2

      Your prediction is that people have to buy a graphic card NOW and cannot even wait for 1-2 months. Unfortunately this market is very limited and the size was shrinking heavily due to the mining and the greedy of NVidia and AMD. We can live without those graphic cards fine. But the companies will be dead without enough consumers buying their products.

      Mostly important, there is no urgent need for those who had old generation GPU to upgrade at this moment. My 1060 6g GPU is running fun with medium settings in most of 1080p games. So if the 40s supply is limited at the beginning, I am more than happy to build a 13th gen CPU and 40s GPU PC in 2023.

    • This is exactly what happened the last 2 launches… People have short memories

  • There will be significantly less sustained demand this time around, cards will probably sell out on launch still though.

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