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Breville The Infuser Coffee Machine Black Sesame BES840BKS $389.98 Delivered @ Costco Online (Membership Required)

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1st time post, seems very good price for this model.

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  • +15

    This model doesn’t have a built in grinder so there is an extra $200+ you need to allow to buy one such as a Breville smart grinder pro.

    • +6

      Downvoted for providing information. Nice.

      I guess coffee snobs will say 'the built in grinders are shite, and so is the breville grinder. You need proper conical burr grinder' - they're 'only' more expensive than the coffee machine itself. Or you can go the budget route - $20 coffee and spice grinder - which is not designed for grinding coffee beans and is sub par, but to me is better than hand grinding.

      • +27

        Cant i just use a plastic bag and a hammer?

        • +17

          By far the superior method. Real coffee snobs have a separate garage, with a dedicated coffee smashing bench and various sizes of hammer to smash their beans with. These peasants making coffee in their kitchen have no idea what they're doing.

          • +7

            @juzz88: the garage,howver, needs to be within 7 steps of the greenhouse where you massage the coffee plants until their drop their beans directly into your $12,000 roaster before they are carried by gloved hand to the smashing bench, Obviously the stainless steel hammer is better, except for blends where you should use the rubber mallet

          • +6

            @juzz88: Pfft, I grind them beans with my bare hands. None of this assisted nonsense

          • +5

            @juzz88: Imaging making coffee in the same building you make other food. Ugh, they're infusing their beans with the aroma of everything in their kitchen. There's nothing I hate more.

            I built a seperate kitchen outside for coffee specifically. Great value investment given flying to Spain for a cuppa costs $2k each time.

        • Nah mortar and pestle

        • +3

          James Hoffman youtube channel covers this scenario.

        • Coffee bean surg3on

        • +2

          Forehead and loose beans on the footpath is my method.

        • +1

          Real ozbargainer.. now post a good hammer deal please

        • +1

          pfft I follow around my pet Asian palm civet with a poo bag for a week to get the perfect cup….

      • Conical burr? You might as well drink Nescafe blend 43! Real men use a Flat burr.

        • Real men just drink coffee

      • +1

        If you're going to bother getting a decent espresso machine, pleaaase don't buy a $20 spice grinder lol.

      • +4

        The Breville grinder 'pro' is conical, as is the built in one in the BES870 (same model, with built in grinder), though I prefer the separate grinder for functionality and breakdown.

    • +5

      You wouldn’t want the grinder attached anyways, lol.
      It is best to get them separately imo.
      So if one of them fails, you just replace that, instead of buying the whole machine or separates again.
      I like the grinders by itself. I can really dial in my grinds, a lot more settings. It is also easier to clean when it is separated, because I have different beans I use depending on the mood I’m in.
      Perhaps that’s just me, I’m a little coffee crazy. lol

      • I had this happen on my Barista express and decided to go the seperate option and to buy machines that were cheaper. Am doing reasonable coffee on a budget but am looking forward to upgrading when they die next.

      • +1

        I guess you also have to factor in bench space. Don't really want two devices and cables going.

    • +1

      My $90 manual grinder (https://alternativebrewing.com.au/products/porlex-mini-coffe…) works a champ and is probably overkill. You can easily get a quality manual grinder for $50 that'll exceed the job at hand.

      • +3

        I beg to differ, this machine is actually decent and I prefer it over the bambino plus as that machine is far less forgiving in many aspects.

        Unfortunately with grinders you have to spend a decent amount of money otherwise you'll be wondering what you're doing wrong. For starters, manual I'd go 1zpresso jxpro… auto, Eureka mignon.

        • Can you elaborate more on the bambino plus. I have this machine and after increasing the dose and making the grind finer the coffee still tastes sour.

          • @BellaWii: You may need to grind even finer or just focus on shot volume.

            If you're using a lighter roast, you need a higher brew temperature. Try using the double walled basket and run two blank shots through it.

            I'd check out Reddit for more info.

            I sold mine a while back.

        • Not sure why you prefer this over the Bambino, the Bambino has a lower brew pressure, so ideally it should make better coffee

          • @Paudius: Bambino has issues maintaining temperature while brewing, among other things.

            • @TEER3X: I've seen this discussed before over on r/espresso
              Have you got someone who profiled the temps over a shot? I seem to get 'decent' coffee from my bambino plus with a super jolly grinder (which is high retention) so there's enough variables there to cause variance anyway

      • I read that as angle grinder.

      • Cheap hand grinders use ceramic burr which will turn blunt very quickly and usually don't have good burr stability so your ground will come out quite uneven.
        Admittedly, I never personally tried to grind espresso on ceramic burr grinders, larger and a lot more expensive steel burr grinders struggle to grind espresso ground properly, sorry don't think the porlex mini will cut it.

    • +1

      I put Nescafé Blend 43 in mine

    • With respect, you aren't quite correct.

      Yes, one probably should purchase such a grinder - I have the exact one you mentioned myself - but you certainly don't have to. The machine comes with two pressurised portafilter baskets designed for pre ground coffee, so you can just buy that instead of whole beans.

      You could also buy a cheap grinder or even a hand grinder if you don't drink large volumes.

      But strictly, you certainly don't 'need' to purchase an expensive grinder, even if that's probably something you will want to do eventually.

  • +2

    The other good thing about buying separately is that you can slowly upgrade one or the other if you find yourself getting more into coffee.

    Are costco memberships activated immediately? I wanna get this coffee machine but I doubt I'll use costco much so weighing up if it's worthwhile

  • +3

    Holding out for the Dual Boiler or Dynamic Duo to come on sale again. Any day now…

    • +2

      See if you can get one through the Breville Factory Seconds. No idea how shipping will go but for those in Brisbane it's a great outlet (picked up my dynamic duo for $949 in 2020, took 3 months on the waitlist)

  • +1

    Good decision.

  • How good is the milk steamer/frother on this? I've been looking for another sale on the Barista Pro, but i'm more after a good quality milk frother and happy to buy a grinder on the side if that's the cheaper option.

    Thanks!

    • +1

      VERY good (see Choice review too - I just look at coffee-making and milk-frothing scores, rest is useless (eg ease of use)). I have one, timed dosage went after 18 months, looking to replace water pump for $35, but bought a second model for $290 (https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/665547)….@$2 7-11 coffee, for a couple that is $8/day, so will pay back very quickly (plus don;t have to leave house)

      • I also lost timed dosage on mine after about 18 months. The pressure gauge went about 6 months after that lol. Still makes a great coffee though.

  • +1

    A dosing funnel and coffee scales is a must for good espresso. A toothpick for WDT too. Best and cheapest upgrades one can get.

    • Sewing needles and wine cork works much better than a toothpick

      • But toothpicks are cheaper especially after using them to clean your teeth before throwing into the bin.

      • I was worried about scratching the baskets but is that a thing to be worried about?

    • Acupuncture needles from Ali Express, can buy a pack of 300 for under $10

      Then find someone with a 3d printer to make you the handle for them

      https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:4819617

  • +2

    This is a nice machine for the price, PID control keeps the brew temperature on target, user adjustable in 2 degree increments.
    Pressure gauge at this price is great to have - the needle gives you feedback of how your extraction is going, allowing you to tune your grind/dose.
    Breville portafilters are stainless steel, with good thermal inertia, longevity and heft.
    Black Sesame is the business - looks amazing on the Breville machine I have: Black areas are gloss, silver areas are chrome/mirror shiny.
    Having a standalone machine like this gives you freedom on the grinder. Others have already spoken volumes on this so I will leave grinder selection to them, a well chosen manual or electric grinder will make great coffee with this machine.

  • coffee is something you need when sleepy, tired or both. The less effort the better.

    • +1

      I find that is a good indication that you need sleep more than coffee.

  • Good price for the right target user. Was in Costco but didn't see any of BES840 but BES875 (A$699).

    I paid ~450 (with discounted myer gift cards) for BES840 earlier this week as the almost 6 year old BES870 died, no standalone BES920 was on sale…

  • -1

    Does not make sense ..
    I don't understand that why this adv sharing here?!
    you can add only 100 and buy a machine with grinder.

    • The in built grinder is the barista express's biggest weakness imo, it's still decent but not great.

      The infuser also has a smaller footprint (obviously).

  • Have this exact machine. For the price it is great. Was hanging out for the dual boiler but was Always in the $1k plus range…. The day I bought this one they started to drop in price again ! Anyway we mostly make blacks and makes a good drop especially when you have a consistent grind. For milk based coffees, the steam wand works fine and stock. For $400 I think this is a no brainer especially if you already have a decent grinder. This model has a lot of the functions and parts from higher end brevilles.

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