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Seems a very good price if you can combine it with a reasonably priced MB.
Intel Core i5-12600K 3.70GHz CPU $349 + Delivery ($0 MEL C&C) @ PLE
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Lol at mid range….
HODL. Next gen IMMINENT. Prices going to drop on old gen.
When next gen
Intel?
@Daniel-Tillet: Intel will need to respond with 13th gen. People are guessing Q4.
We need to see what AMD does first. B650 chipset supporting PCIe gen 5 SSD is going to be interesting (as Intel will most likely need to respond to that). However, when taking a harsh view, it seems that AMD is locking B650 out of PCIe gen 5 x16 (wouldn't surprise me on microcode level). X670 and X670E seem a bit dodgy and really rely on motherboard makers to split that PCIe gen 5 x16 into 2 x8 x8 to harness otherwise an overkill PCIe gen 5 x16 (and we know only high end boards will offer that feature).
ASM4242 (USB 4 chipset) is also scheduled to be included on AMD platform. So, will Intel react to that? Most Thunderbolt 4 AICs are PCIe gen 3 x4 and has 2 ports, but Intel, we know that's not the right way to do things. ASM4242 will be PCIe gen 4 x4 (so sufficient / proper bandwidth for 2 ports).
TSMC's 5nm is one gen ahead of Intel 7 (Intel 10nm). So, Intel will have an uphill battle unless AMD really screws up. Can AMD temporary exceeds Apple's M1/M2 series (since it will be using 5nm also for Zen4).
@Daniel-Tillet: Asus AMD-AM5 X670E boards
You can tell the motherboard makers can really get it done right (esp. on its top end boards). Up to 4 x PCIe gen 5 SSDs. Unfortunately, this time around, AMD made sure to block B series to play the split x16 slot trick.
Intel 12th gen can also do PCIe gen 5 x16 split into x8 x4 x4. So, it is technically viable to still get 12th gen CPU I guess if PCIe gen 5 SSDs are important to you.
@netsurfer: I am mainly after a new intel build…looking at using the best asus m/b …is it worth waiting for 13 gen cpu and mobo?
@Daniel-Tillet: Hard to tell. So far, we know 13th gen will mainly add e-cores (efficiency cores). From what we know on X670 / X670E, AMD isn't supporting PCIe gen 5 lanes from CPU to chipset for Zen4. So, it is doubtful Intel will need to beef up Z790 a lot. Whether Intel throws in extra PCIe gen 5 x4 for m.2 SSD on 13th gen (which will benefit low end motherboards) is unknown.
You know your situation and budget best. If you are really happy with i5-12600K and need a PC right now, then it is fine to build it. However, Zen 4 should push prices of current CPUs and boards lower. So, ideally, you need to be getting bargain prices on all parts, not just the CPU.
The 5nm products will most likely sell like hot cakes (but won't be cheap). You need to be okay with those products matching expectations. GPUs are another question mark. The expectation is nVidia's 5nm GPUs might be too good that nVidia is unwilling to release them too soon.
@Daniel-Tillet: If you are worried about missing out on this deal, you could get it (would be good if you live in WA), don't open it till 30/08 (in case you want to return it).
As much as I like AMD, it has been frustrating dealing with those various glitches at times (USB bug, performance glitches, TPM glitch) and 4 DIMMs RAM modules are not that fun, not quite right Thunderbolt support. Intel platform tends not to have those quirks and needing BIOS upgrades after BIOS upgrades.
PCIe gen 5 x4 NVMe SSDs are most likely just for bragging rights. It's not as if we all have 8K monitors and video cameras.
@Daniel-Tillet: the i5 12600k has the e-cores so entry point for newer gen architecture ….i have i5 12500 which doesn’t with gigabyte aorus wifi mb ($190) ….. you can build a nice affordable mid range rig with this cpu …..
Hey @netsurfer, I would love to go AMD as I am really impressed by the AM4 longevity, but DDR5 feels like a showstopper, plus concerns on initial AM5 mobo prices.
I am building a desktop after a decade, focused on cost effective performance, trying do decide between 12600K or waiting for the 13600K (either to get it, or for an even better deal on 12th gen). HODLing strong so far, waiting for a low 500$ z690 + 12600k deal to jump the gun.
I watched a recent video though, showing some decent overclock results using non-K 12700 sku + B660 chipset, but feeling sceptical about it.
Now I am even more in doubt about what would be the best rational decision.Any thoughts about 12600k + z690m vs 12700 + b660 vs waiting for 13600? I don't think I will need
Z790 nor b760.@karkassa: Z690M doesn't quite make sense. If you go Z690, you probably want to consider the ability to run 2x PCIe gen 5 NVMe SSDs (However, those boards probably won't be cheap) so standard ATX makes more sense.
AM5 going for DDR5 is expected because AMD wants to play that longevity card again. DDR5, if you don't overclock and go for 32 GB setup, the price isn't that much higher (except boards probably cost more). Memory overclocking for AMD AM4/DDR4 isn't straightforward. DD5 has technologies which help the memory signalling. Personally, I think platform longevity is a marketing BS. AMD locked B450/X470 and motherboard makes improvements each year. Quite a few B550 boards are better designed then low cost X570 boards.
I wouldn't overspend on Intel 12th gen. It is 7nm after all. Intel: Alder Lake CPU bending issue is a feature, not a bug. For Intel 12th gen, price is now a bigger factor to consider.
@karkassa: Ryzen 7000 series announced. There should be good deals for Intel 12th gen coming up.
Ryzen 5 7600X vs i9 12900K in gaming comparison, AMD really knows how to sell. Looks like the 5nm jump is not going to disappoint though the TDP has gone up (so AMD does push that clock speed). It's not going to be easy for Intel 13th gen. However, it will be hard to get cost effective Zen 4 systems, at least initially.
Correction: it seems B650E is a possibility. That feels like B550 high end vs X570 low end later on. X670 and X670E are available first so for early adopters, they need to go for high end chipset. B650 is one month later.
@netsurfer: Thanks, I will keep monitoring for deals.
If they don't come up, I wait until zen4 and/or Intel 13th gen real benchmarks are out to decide based on cost/performance ratio.About the Z690M, both M and non-M versions are only PCI-E Gen4 (for M2), right? I am eying the Z690M AORUS ELITE with 3x M2 slots.
I've got a Gen4 KC3000 already, and 64GB DDR4 from a huge Amazon deal. But I don't mind selling or returning the DDR4 if DDR5 becomes attractive. 64 GB is too much even for running a few containers or VMs occasionally.
Any recommended atx or maxt motherboard with good price?
Z690's price has increased about 10% recently for some reason.
MSI PRO Z690-A （$269) is a good choice if you prefer ATX form factor.
https://www.centrecom.com.au/msi-pro-z690-a-ddr4-lga-1700-de…
Gigabyte Gaming Motherboard Z690M AORUS ELITE AX ($248.17) is a MATX board with wifi.
I have the MSI board, good bit of kit
Don’t HODL on this. I bought my 11400 near start of this year for $279
This is a fantastic deal for a great gen of the i5. Probably one of the best budget to value of a CPU.
My 11400 rips in my unraid server, can only imagine how good this one is…
I bought one last week to replace my 6700k. It doubled my framerate in hell let Loose
Comes with MWII which makes it an even better deal
Trying to HODL! But I need to upgrade my plex server.
Buy buy buy, it is your credit card, not mine.
Me too but I need mobo+ram+psu which blows budget
Do you need something that powerful? I have an i3-12100 and it sips about 4W according to intel_gpu_top doing 5 1080p-1080p transcodes, and I'd bet it could do another like 20.
I don't have 4K media to test but it could probably do a couple or more of those.
Edit: I got up to about 15 at once before my laptop started dropping streams. I don't think it's the server as there was orange on all tabs and my laptop was pinned at 100% and stuttering. Still 4W.
4kw??!! Is that for the whole system or just cpu?
Are you using PicoPSU or standard atx?Sorry I meant +4W when iGPU transcoding as opposed to doing nothing, that excludes any heightened NIC activity or disk activity as well as the whole system power.
I have a Bronze 450W ATX PSU.
@vash12: Noo nooo not the whole server!!! The CPU power draw goes up by 4W when transcoding.
System draw is probably more like 25-30W accounting for chipset, storage, RAM, inefficiencies, etc. It has no drives in it and pulls media from a TrueNAS system.
If I didn’t need to buy a motherboard, ram and psu then this would be a good deal. Considering Im moving soon and wont be needed a new build until xmas, going to pass and keep using 3700X for a bit longer
Are you after gaming performance? The 5800X3D should be compatible with your board and is on par with the 12900KS for gaming performance.
5800X3D isn’t great price vs performance. Was actually looking to build a HTPC/NAS either with retiring 3700X and going Intel 12th Gen for main rig or just building a low end i5 12400. Still need a psu and mobo though and moving soon so holding until end of year when new Ryzen and Intel offerings drop
I dont think I can HODL :/
I cant see prices dropping for these
In case some people do not realise you will also need to budget for a suitable cooler if a converter does not exist for your existing setup even then depending on what you have it may not be sufficient . I use a 240 AIO with mine and it max's out at 82c running Cinebench much lower gaming in VR. Great cpu coupled with an RTX3080.
price is $439
Great price for anyone building a budget editing rig or mid range gaming pc