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DeLonghi Fully Automatic Magnifica S Coffee Machine ECAM22110B $540 + $10 Postage ($0 with eBay Plus) @ Bing Lee eBay

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DeLonghi Fully Automatic Magnifica S Coffee Machine ECAM22110B $540 + $10 Postage ($0 with eBay Plus) @ Bing Lee eBay
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TEER3X on 04/06/2022 - 20:14 ebay.com.au (3659 clicks)
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Popular bean to cup fully automatic coffee machine (*you have to steam milk manually)

Bought one recently, love it and I've barely tinkered with it.

Excludes: _NT, _Q3, _Q4, _W2, _W3

Description:
1450W power 1.8L removable water reservoir 250g beans container capacity 14 cups/72h coffee-grounds container capacity 13 adjustable grinder settings Thermoblock delivers an ideal & constant temperature Cappuccino System Coffee beans or ground coffee compatible Two cups of coffee in a single brew Removable brewing unit New silent integrated coffee grinder Adjustable coffee quantity Adjustable water quantity Pre-brewing cycle Adjustable coffee dispenser Automatic shut-off Flavour saving coffee beans container tap Rinse and decalcification auto-programmes Water filter Cup holder Programmable water hardness Removable drip tray with level indicator Rapid Cappuccino Power supply switch for zero consumption Energy saving function Stand-by function

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  • easternculture on 04/06/2022 - 20:47

    Im here for the bing lee cheaper comments

  • gaz3342 on 04/06/2022 - 20:49
    +1

    Hmmm this or the Breville Barista Express

    • DingoBlue on 04/06/2022 - 20:58
      +12

      Completely different beasts my friend.

      Would you prefer to get a coffee from a vending machine or go behind the counter at a cafe and make your own?

      • jwh on 04/06/2022 - 21:23
        +1

        Hmm. So this machine delivers vending machine quality coffee, like those from 7-11 or Coles Express? Or are you saying it comes down to how much time, effort and skill you're willing to put into making your own with the Breville versus the convenience of this?

        • Iradio on 04/06/2022 - 21:35

          Get a Breville if you enjoy making tasty coffee or latte art.

          • jwh on 04/06/2022 - 22:01

            @Iradio: You'll still be able to do your latte art with this machine, since you'll be frothing your own milk.

            I'm honestly curious to know how good the coffee is from this machine. I had an automatic Delonghi machine once, the coffee never came out right.

          • elektron on 05/06/2022 - 13:47

            @Iradio: I mostly drink ristretto and i would still get the Breville.

      • geshc on 04/06/2022 - 21:55

        wait, so this makes bad coffee? All the reviews seem positive though?

        • wtfnodeal on 04/06/2022 - 22:04
          +1

          Good or bad coffee is very subjective and so as the reviews.

        • Yve on 04/06/2022 - 23:27
          +4

          I would like to clarify it, indeed good and bad coffee is somewhat subjective and tends to be based off whatever flavours you’re used to drinking. In America there are people who prefer hot dog stand coffee over artisanal coffee.

          There are inherent flaws to an automatic coffee machine though. Most cannot extract anything lighter than a medium-dark roast. This can be due a bunch of issues (Puck pressure, grind size, temperature, dose).
          This means that the machine extracts darker roasts a lot better than lighter roasts and that you’ll drink flavour profiles that tend to be more bitter. Unless you want to purposely drink under-extracted lighter roasts.
          In terms of coffee you might’ve tried outside it’ll be something along the lines of Vittoria coffee. It’s definitely not for everyone but it may work for you

        • badmedicine on 05/06/2022 - 14:06

          For what it's worth I've got one of these and I'm a bit of a coffee snob… It makes tasty coffee if you use decent beans but the coffee isn't super strong and doesn't hit the spot in the same way as coffee from a cafe (I think because of how it's extracted?). Also the milk steamer does the job but it's not that powerful so it's harder to get the milk right, but it can be done.

          • DeToxin on 06/06/2022 - 20:13

            @badmedicine: When you use decent coffee beans from a local roster how does the extraction come out?
            Good crema and darker/oilier than the watery crap that comes out of a cheap pod machine?
            - serious question, I wish I could test one of these out before buying…

      • UltimateAI on 04/06/2022 - 22:12
        +1

        Nothing at all like vending machine coffee, perhaps if you don't use it right.
        I have no issues with making a strong expresso (easy to set the amount and temp of water to your preference)
        It's a manual frother, so also easy to make latte art.

        Perhaps with supermarket beans, it would taste like vending machine coffee.

      • GrueHunter on 04/06/2022 - 23:13
        +31

        Every single time this machine goes on sale there's a small pack of primadonnas (ironically, the name of another Delonghi machine) who insist that unless you're making coffee the way they've decided it has to be made then said coffee must be awful, Cecil, just dreadful, oh I know Tarquin, how do these savages live with themselves?

        Except if this was the Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy, these are the same people who'd be showing off their parakeet gland on a stick.

        Here's what Choice had to say:

        Jura E8 (EB) 15372 - $2,290 - 81%
        Jura Z10 (INTA) 15423 - $4,150 - 81%
        DeLonghi Magnifica S ECAM 22.110.SB - $779 - 80%

        That's right, friends - on sale, this thing clocks in at a quarter to an eighth of the price of machines that scored a whopping 1% higher. Except when you look at the taste score, the Juras got 80%, and the Delonghi got 85%.

        Do many automatic coffee machines make bad espresso? Choice thinks so. Is this one of them? No, it isn't. Could you prance about with your man bun and your organic Yirgacheffe ground with moon rocks and get a better result with a manual machine? Possibly. Do you deserve to be compared with somebody who drinks "vending machine" coffee if you decide that's not your thing and buy a well-regarded auto? No, you don't.

        • Yve on 04/06/2022 - 23:51
          -2

          I wouldn’t break it down like that, in the end the potential of any coffee machine is limited to the knowledge of the user. While unfortunately a technological limitation of a fully automatic coffee machines is that they just have more difficulty extracting light coffees that even $1000 manual setups have trouble with. There’s a lot of processes which are simplified and stuffed into one machine.

          So it’s a matter of understanding what you’re working with to get a proper extraction.
          In terms of beans, this would work absolutely fine as a daily driver with any of the Vittoria blends, Airjo’s Thunderchili and Stargazer, or Toby’s Estates Woolloomooloo and that’s just what comes to mind.
          As a general consumer, you’re unlikely to be adjusting it too much unlike a manual machine.
          Rather than a plane that’ll take you on a journey around the world, think of it as a car that you take to work.

          • GrueHunter on 08/06/2022 - 18:48
            -1

            @Yve: Or I could think of it as a machine that makes hot bean water.

        • Borg on 05/06/2022 - 00:03
          -4

          @GrueHunter: Choice are not comparing the three machines side by side hence the 80% applied relates to what they think of the machine being reviewed. Based on that don't assume the $800 machine is going to give the same results as the 2k+ machine regardless of receiving 80% in review. That's not to say it won't but it's unlikely.

        • tunzafun001 on 05/06/2022 - 00:13
          +11

          In fairness, all these machines can't make a 'good' coffee due to the way they are made, and they are all pretty much the same internally (I repair them). So yeah, you can spend $1000 more…same stuff.

          They all have the same flaw with one tamp pressure for all bean types. All beans are different, and these things will clog with a nice oily bean (also says so in the manual).

          If you like a thinish dark bean as a short black, these machines will be wonderful for you, as its basically set up for that.

          You want a textured cafe quality coffee, then you will need a manual machine (Brevilles do a good no man bun required coffee).

          I have access to all these machines and my partner still prefers Nescafe Gold instant… but she has a bun in her hair some days .. maybe it works opposite for women! Week days I'll use a Delonghi. Weekends I'll go for the Breville.

          • souths123 on 05/06/2022 - 08:48
            +1

            @tunzafun001: hahahah so funny that the women seem to be the ones that are happy with instant most of the time (instead of fiddling with machines) I am one of them. Happy to have my Nescafe Blend 43 Espresso with sugar, cream and a dash of milk…or if no cream, then instant creamer….or if I am feeling really "Posh", I'll have a sachet of the Nescafe Cappuccino mix….actually half a sachet. (so enough for 2 cups 3/4 full as I never finish a cup of coffee) I just buy the strong ones and use half at a time lol….true Ozbargainer style!

          • TEER3X on 08/06/2022 - 20:56

            @tunzafun001: When you say textured coffee, do you mean textured milk? I think you might be using the wrong terminology. With pressurized baskets, you will miss out on some of the subtle flavours, that's definitely a shortcoming of an auto.

            That said, a lot of these subtle flavours would otherwise be masked when adding milk, so it isn't a huge deal (for me at least).

            I could be wrong, but tamping pressure is something you want to keep fixed, same as dosage. (Breville Oracle automates tamping, among other things, and it produces amazing coffee) The only variable to focus on should be grind size, and it would be nice to have a machine where you can specify the exact brew temp too. So an excellent grinder is needed. Not the one included in a barista express, nor the ones built into autos.

            You want excellent coffee, get a dual boiler and a Eureka Mignon.

            Obviously there's no way these machines can compete with a fully dialled in manual machine, but they're not intended to. It's about convenience.

            • tunzafun001 on 08/06/2022 - 21:28
              +1

              @TEER3X: I find the coffee thin, my partner describes it as 'watery'.

              As an experiment I used the same beans from the same grinder (used the pre ground feeder), with the same sized shot and went head to head with a Map pod machine (just refilled the pod).

              The coffee was much fuller and felt thick and velvety (crema) with the Map machine. I guess the number of jets in the infuser (can only see this when you remove the generator assembly (what the Italians call the boiler part) is less than the entry holes in a Map pods.

              Either way, the coffee is ok, but I would never pay $600 for one of these. But there is no good full auto machine, and these are at the bottom end of the scale.

              • TEER3X on 09/06/2022 - 11:12

                @tunzafun001: Fair enough, but that experiment might be flawed.

                This auto needs a specific grind, otherwise the coffee will be over or under extracted, which is where you'll get thin or watery coffee…. whereas the same grind might work perfectly well with a different machine.

                Also, some beans may just not work well at all with it, due to its limitations in being an auto and not being able to control things like temperature precisely, dosage, and grind size very finely.

                If I had the funds, I would just get a Breville Oracle. If I had the time, I'd get a dual boiler.

                • DeToxin on 11/06/2022 - 16:22

                  @TEER3X: All of these automatic machines don't make a true espresso shot.
                  They can't work with a fine enough grind and you can't control the tamping so you either get channeling when the grind is set to what you would use in a full manual machine (which comes out tasting terrible), or a pretty well extracted shot using a slightly coarser than espresso grind.
                  It's not "bad", but it's different to espresso.
                  Also important to note that this machine doesn't do any cheeky frothing of the shot to create a fake Crema the way a lot of other automatic machines do (and I assume pod machines do too).

        • elektron on 05/06/2022 - 13:52

          Juras are notoriously overpriced and I wouldn't get one over a DeLonghi. The comparison here is against the non-automatic Breville l, which makes better coffee thsn snt if these.

    • [Deactivated] on 04/06/2022 - 22:20
      +1

      Just personal experience but had 2 expresses that died on me within 2 months. Mate's machine died after a month. People seem to have had better luck with older variants of this machine(I do know that they've replaced a few metal parts with plastic in newer variants, like the solenoid for example, not sure if that was a contributor). The pressure valve was also essentially non-functional in both machines I got since they seem to be calibrated to stop midway now, so you can't really tell if you're going over aside from using time and taste.

      Ended up going with a bambino plus and a separate grinder instead which came to around the same price with current deals. The barista pro is also another all in one option with similar improvements in the bambino

    • tunzafun001 on 04/06/2022 - 23:59

      The Breville makes good coffee when done right, the Delonghi makes okish coffee with convenience, but will never be able to make Breville quality coffee, simply because you can't set the tamp pressure and the size of the shot in the Delonghi.

      I fix Delonghi machines. The older machines are good for 5000 coffees without too much trouble. But they will only ever be as good as a good instant (my partner prefers Nescafe Gold and I know these machines inside and out). WAYYYY better than a mainstream Blend 43 instant coffee, but it can't touch a Breville with an unpressurised basket.

      • wintermadness on 05/06/2022 - 01:07

        Fellow repairer, agree with all of this.

        Delonghi will give you pretty consistent, average coffee - just don't expect anything resembling a shot from a well set up manual machine. I think it's better than instant, and a greener alternative to nespresso (package waste etc), plus probably not all that much more expensive over the life of the machines (60-80c a pod vs 20-30c a shot on an automatic)

        • tunzafun001 on 05/06/2022 - 17:04

          Totally agree. But if you can be bothered, Refillable pods filled with fresh ground coffee produces a much better coffee than the delonghi machines. But some PFA involved.
          If we have people coming over i'll make a handful of pods in the morning. Then just pump out the coffees when needed.
          Delonghi is just a convenience machine for weekdays.

          • nomaz on 05/06/2022 - 22:39

            @tunzafun001: Which refillable pods do you use?

            • tunzafun001 on 05/06/2022 - 23:15

              @nomaz: I prefer Map (using Saeco machine) good size -around 10 grams, easy to do, extraction time is bang on. Nespresso are too small (but work). Lavazza are ok, but fiddly as they aren't a simetrical pod. The factory pods by themselves..gross. But proper beans and a mild tamp.. brilliant.

              • nomaz on 05/06/2022 - 23:48

                @tunzafun001: Thanks. Really keen to give this a go. Nespresso, for example, there is Bluecup or Sealpod pods. Do you use something similar or do you mean that you refill the used pods (how does that work?)

                • tunzafun001 on 06/06/2022 - 12:12
                  +1

                  @nomaz: I just re use the normal map pods. I use the foil from a Yoghurt lid (you can use it multiple times with a MAP pod and its permeable, yet hardy.

                  For Nespresson i'd advise using the hard plastic type pods (like Lor) as they dont get peforated. However, just use alfoil for the top (as it will need to be discarded).

                  But you can buy proper refillable pods.

                  • nomaz on 06/06/2022 - 13:17

                    @tunzafun001: Thank you! Will give the diy option a try first

  • tonyamazing on 04/06/2022 - 20:55

    Good price. I paid $552 + $10 postage from TGG Commercial just a few days ago.

  • khepri on 04/06/2022 - 20:56
    +8

    I have two of these (one black, one silver)
    Cannot recommend highly enough, amazing quality coffee and ease of use for the price

    • Shiny Mew on 05/06/2022 - 09:18

      Do you like one colour more than the other and if so why?

      • Quarn on 05/06/2022 - 10:43
        +2

        With coffee machines black is better, coffee splashes are a given.

  • ChickenTalon on 04/06/2022 - 21:35
    +17

    Posting this again for anyone considering buying one

    Great machine. Some things to note:

    • Critical: only change the grind size while the machines is actually in the process of grinding. Otherwise you’ll break the knob. Says that in the instructions, but it’s easy to overlook.
    • Getting the right combination of temperature/grind /volume takes time for each different type of coffee bean you buy. Lots of experimentation. Once you’ve got it setup it’s magic.
    • Only use the short espresso button. Button on the left-middle. Everything else is weak or over extracted. i.e. if you want a double then run the short single twice.

    Makes a great cup of coffee. Not quite at the level of a good professionally made expresso, but it’s close and a big step up from pods. Also heaps cheaper in the long run.

    • UltimateAI on 04/06/2022 - 22:04
      +4

      Agree, although the finest grind isn't that fine, so I just leave it there.
      Very easy to set the amount of water for any button to your preference, I set mine to 35ml but anywhere between 30 to 44ml is good for expresso.
      Yes good tip to start out with the middle left button. Big dial in the middle is the amount of grind, so easy to adjust.

      Pros:
      I find less cleaning than a full auto, and can get the milk to taste. I have had two full auto's and I am sensitive to the taste of off milk, need to constantly clean them. This takes seconds to froth and then clean. Although if I wasn't the only coffee drinker a full auto makes more sense.
      When setup correctly, very consistent, good coffee. If you know what you are doing, you can get better coffee from a manual machine, but unless your a guru the consistency won't likely be there.
      Quite compact, mine stays in the cupboard even when I am using it.

      Gripes:
      Drip tray still fills with water, despite always putting a container underneath.
      Puck dispenser needs to be change regularly, well I do have mine on MAX and drink numerous coffee's a day.

      • ChickenTalon on 05/06/2022 - 20:32

        Yep, I’m also at the finest grind and one notch off the maximum amount of coffee on the front dial. Will’n’Co 808 beans.

    • tunzafun001 on 05/06/2022 - 00:01

      Yes this is important. This does not do two cups at once…the button may exist…but it really should say 'SBWSSST'… single bitter, watery shit shot shared between two.

    • Hellcat on 09/06/2022 - 08:32

      Is it much better than the nespresso vertuo pods too?

      • ChickenTalon on 09/06/2022 - 09:28

        I’ve not had those ones, but I rate it as better than the regular Nespresso pods.

  • kiwimex on 04/06/2022 - 22:26
    +1

    It's fully automatic….but you just have to change gears.

  • thespectra on 04/06/2022 - 23:22
    +2

    I am not coffee snob, but I like good quality and strong coffee without the work. Saving on capsules would also be a plus (and so was cutting waste). I had decided to get this one for some time but RRP is out of my budget… I finally got it from the previous ebay deal… it's been only a week and it took a little time to get it right, but I am very satisfied.

  • snajper on 04/06/2022 - 23:39

    i had silvia and gaggia classic in the past and have now purchased the latest magnifica evo (new model of the posted machine) and i must say that i am very impressed with quality and consistency of the coffee.

  • ferguson on 05/06/2022 - 07:29

    I've had this machine for about a year, after getting rid of my Nespresso machine.

    Only notable flaw is the limited capacity steam wand (limited boiler capacity), so it runs out of steam when doing multiple back-to-back steamed milks. To counter this I just use a $30 Aldi milk frother instead now, which probably ends up easier anyway.

    Absolutely love this machine.

    BUT, take the time to set it up properly or you'll get horrible watery coffee. Read the manual and set up the grind (as fine as possible without clogging), water temp, strength, pour size, water hardness etc.

    • TEER3X on 05/06/2022 - 07:50
      +1

      I know coffee beans vary greatly, but what water temp are you currently using (out of 4)?

      Also, are people measuring volume or weight when it comes to pour size?

      After owning a few coffee machines, from nespresso, to Breville duo temp pro and bambino plus, I would never go back to a mid range manual machine. It's either this, or a dual boiler. Not saying this auto does better coffee than those mid range machines, just that why go to all that effort unless you're going to pull one amazing shot, time and time again… Not to mention not having to worry about buying 54mm vs 58mm accessories all over again.

  • Icant Isimplycant on 05/06/2022 - 08:00
    +1

    Highly Recommend. Perfect for espresso in my opinion. I don't personally use the steam wand but when I have needed to, it worked just fine. Owned the silver one for about 3 years now, zero issues.

  • Andrepmq on 05/06/2022 - 08:22

    Newbie here. Apart from steaming my milk, will I get enough coffee to make a jumbo flat white?

    • Japius on 05/06/2022 - 13:18

      I just run the single shot button twice for my large coffee cups

  • SoTightEcoLPI on 05/06/2022 - 13:27

    Over the years I've had a DeLonghi (done 1150 shots) Jura J9 (4200ish shots), went a Breville Barista Touch and won't look back. I've used my buddies Breville Barista Express and bang for your buck you won't beat a Breville Barista Express. Only down side is that you can ruin your cabintary top as it's a messy process, even with rubber mats and tamper mat. Need to Ajax the counter top and cabinets regularly.

  • souljah on 05/06/2022 - 13:31

    Did anyone else go check out the ebay listing photos? That second one showing the frothed/textured milk makes me sad…

    Wouldn't trust this to make a 'great' coffee if that's what they think we'll textured milk looks like that. Bubbling like soapy water.

    Good convenience factor and will beat out a pod machine I though.

    • TEER3X on 05/06/2022 - 13:36

      What's even more sad is that it doesn't even include a milk jug

      I'm almost certain that the milk in the picture isn't milk at all

  • davebenetau on 05/06/2022 - 16:18

    I checked out a few reviews and didn't feel this unit was up to the task. The grinder puts out the same amount of coffee regardless of what size cup you want. Only the amount of water used changes. Some concerns about the longevity of this unit as well, and the ability to repair/service it.

    Pulled the trigger on a Gaggia Classic Pro (made in Italy), and a Breville Smart Grinder. Nearly double the cost but all the reviews I saw say it's one of the best entry level machines. I've used a "machine grade" espresso maker at work in the past, and know that you can get good results with more control over the whole process.

    • TEER3X on 05/06/2022 - 16:44

      I think you made a good choice, except for the grinder, nothing wrong with it, but it's not exceptional like a Eureka Mignon or a manual grinder like the 1zpresso jx pro.
      The Gaggia will need some upgrades also.

  • frats on 06/06/2022 - 21:21

    Not giving me the option to deliver, only click and collect. Anyway around it?

  • steveray9a on 12/06/2022 - 12:26

    Cannot choose delivery also….????

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