Samsung Highly Overrated Brand?

Seems that around the time Samsung got really big in the phone world (Galaxy S2?), Samsung has been seen as a top tier brand

While their products are generally pretty good across the many categories they are in, not the Apple level they seem to strive for, but still generally pretty good, their customer service is usually bad. I've had the pleasure of dealing with Samsung support across phones, electronics, IT hardware, etc. and every time its below average at best. Frankly, they are behind many smaller/cheaper brands in this regard and below the expectations that most consumers have these days.

Yet they still seem to have a strong reputation, and get away with charging the associated higher prices.

is it just me who finds them really not worthy of the reputation they have? Am I missing something?

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  • +20

    It's probably more to do with local Australian market. Even Sony appear to have relatively poor customer service here. But it's certainly not the case in other markets where they gather most of their reputation.

    With Sony, HTC and LG out of the mobile phone running, Samsung is really the only global flagship Android maker on the market to attempt to compete with iPhones (except Pixel line maybe). They do throw a lot of freebies and offers in to entice people which devalues used prices but still considered top go-to. The Chinese are catching up for sure though.

    • +3

      While Pixel phones have been inferior to Samsung ones, Google seem to have better customer service. Which is really the core of the issue to me, Samsung products are usually up there in the top 2-3 in each product category they are in, but their customer service is bad.

      But you are right, I have heard bad stories about Sony as well in regard to customer service. Maybe it is something to do with the Australian market.

      • +25

        The reality is Australian market just isn't lucrative enough or important enough to be a priority, so everything is off-shored to a third-party scripted call center in Manila.

        Certainly not a valid excuse for global companies that want to sell here, but it's the reality, just a basic "that'll do" attitude. Unless you threaten ACL…

        • +2

          The Samsung store isn't any better though in my experience

      • google customer service is good and fast , but they replace phone with refurbished unit even if your phone is only a month old

        • +3

          im rootin for xiaomi; and huawei unban <_<

      • +1

        I'm having an absolute nightmare with Samsung customer support for a faulty S21+. The device has already been sent to a service centre for repair (some third party dinky electronic store in Granville) and came back in a worst state than it left. The original issue wasn't fixed at all. I'm trying for a refund now but it's an absolute nightmare, their customer support staff are generally clueless about how to request a refund and I've spent hours on the phone with them getting the run around. Appalling for a multi billion dollar global company.

      • +2

        I currently have a samsung mobile, and it will be my last with samsung. I will most likely move to Pixel for my next phone, unless there's a new player in town.
        Reason: Bought an expensive TV with samsung, only to find out it displays ads on the main menu… a TV I paid for… contacted their support and they had no idea how to turn them off. Samsung has crossed the line where I can or can not tolerate something.

        • +5

          I'd hate to break it to you, but you're getting mad at the wrong company, it's happening to other TV brands that are running Android TV(https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/628187), and google are the ones injecting the ads. so getting a Pixel instead means you're supporting the company that put in the ads.

          • +1

            @Broke-Ken: Samsung don't run android tv and he's referring to the adds on his Samsung TV… I think he's on the right track.

            • @picket23: Yes that is correct. My TV is not Android, and Ads are definitely put in there by Samsung. I have seen forums with a lot of people complaining about it. I know other brands have started doing it as well like LG, Huawei etc.. I will be doing my research next time I need to buy a TV or other smart device.

          • @Broke-Ken: My TV is not Android. It's UI is created by Samsung.

            • @anonymous01: Maybe try block that domain on your router.

              • @Richardc: Tried it already. If the TV is not able to connect to samsung domains, it thinks it's not connected to the internet at all, which means I can't use basic apps like Netflix, Prime Video or Youtube because the whole internet related apps stop working.

            • +1

              @anonymous01: I stand corrected, my apologies!

              • @Broke-Ken: I also stand corrected. The culprit is a company called Samba TV

                Below is Copy and Pasted from Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/YouShouldKnow/comments/gn7fw5/ysk_i…

                Ysk that it's not just Samsung. 6 of the top 10 TVs in US have 'Samba TV' embedded. You accidentally sign up when setting up the TV.

                Relevant investigative journalism piece on it https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/05/business/media/tv-viewer-…

                Emphasis my own:

                Samba TV has struck deals with roughly a dozen TV brands — including Sony, Sharp, TCL and Philips — to place its software on certain sets. When people set up their TVs, a screen urges them to enable a service called Samba Interactive TV, saying it recommends shows and provides special offers “by cleverly recognizing onscreen content.” But the screen, which contains the enable button, does not detail how much information Samba TV collects to make those recommendations.

                Samba TV declined to provide recent statistics, but one of its executives said at the end of 2016 that more than 90 percent of people opted in.

                Once enabled, Samba TV can track nearly everything that appears on the TV on a second-by-second basis, essentially reading pixels to identify network shows and ads, as well as programs on HBO and even video games played on the TV. Samba TV has even offered advertisers the ability to base their targeting on whether people watch conservative or liberal media outlets and which party’s presidential debate they watched.

                The big draw for advertisers — which have included *Citi and JetBlue in the past, and now Expedia — is that Samba TV can also identify other devices in the home that share the TV’s internet connection. *

      • +1

        Google seem to have better customer service.

        Yes, but unlike Apple and Samsung, they do not have physical Google Stores here (or most of the world). The convenience of walking into an Apple Store and immediately get service can't be beat.

    • +1

      ACA Choice gave an award to Panasonic for sixty years of manufacturing excellence.
      Must say I’ve found Panasonic products to be the “Toyota Camry” of electronics

      • absolutely, Panasonic have always been good quality and reliable for everything I have bought..TV, fridge, rice cooker, dvd etc.

      • Where can you buy panasonic tvs in aus tho?!

        • +1

          Time machine set to 2019.

  • -2

    is it just me who finds them really not worthy of the reputation they have?

    Yes.

  • +3

    I've only ever seen Samsung TVs start breaking down and showing like purple casts and stuff.

    • +2

      On the other hand, I've just sold one I had for 12 years and it's still working absolutely fine.

      • +1

        Me too. Just sold a 10 years old Samsung for 20% of the origin price recently.

    • I had 2 panels replaced on a KS8000 (due to yellow cast near all edges) and then they replaced the entire TV with a newer model (QF7). And then the new TV had to have the power supply replaced. That was annoying to have so many things go wrong in such a short amount of time but they were reasonably quick and painless to deal with.

      TV is still working now 3 years later

  • +3

    I hope we dont see this thread soon:

    Apple, Highest Overrated Brand?

    • +25

      Dont need a thread, everyone knows it already.

  • +5

    is it just me who finds them really not worthy of the reputation they have? Am I missing something?

    I think Hybroid nailed it, that they're really the only premium Android Phone you can really get besides the Pixel line. The other companies don't really reach the same level or are marketed at a more cost effective price.

    Also I get that Samsung isn't great with customer experience, but honestly I haven't found a company who has been. Even Microsoft where by the in person Microsoft store is good. The moment you use online chat/email etc you end up using the same companies from the same countries as every other company uses anyway (in their case the Philippines last I called).

    • +3

      I have a feeling that they are now trading on their previous reputation with phones.

      The S10 line was probably peak Samsung, now they're just taking things like micro SD cards, headphone jacks and even chargers. Plus Exynos CPU's aren't the top-of-the line that they used to be. Their high-end products have budget cutting corners.

      It's the same with other products, their top of the line 980 Pro SSDs having components replaced with lower performing ones.

      • +1

        It's the same with other products, their top of the line 980 Pro SSDs having components replaced with lower performing ones.

        https://www.tomshardware.com/news/samsung-is-swapping-ssd-pa…

        It's not that component swapping wasn't a thing prior to the pandemic. With the global semiconductor shortage, it just became a more common practice now. SSD vendors, including Adata, Patriot, Crucial and Western Digital have switched parts from some of their drives.

        A DigiTimes report confirmed that Samsung has been facing a SSD controller shortage due to the fact that its Texa factories, which produce SSD controllers, have been idle since February.

        The HD Tune Pro results revealed that Samsung has seemingly endowed the new 970 Evo Plus with a bigger SLC cache. The original version had 42GB, and the new version reportedly featured 115GB. However, there was a huge drawback. When the SLC cache was filled up on the new version, its write performance suffered a drastic decrease.

        While synthetic results showed a significant difference, the two revisions performed similarly in a real-world copy test with a 154GB video file. The old version has a smaller SLC cache, but a higher sustained write performance. Although the new version's SLC cache is 173% bigger, it offers 47% lower sustained write performance. At the end of the day, everything balanced out and the new version finished the copying process just a hairline faster than the old version.

  • +12

    The Australian market is tiny in terms of global sales, they barely give a shit about sales here.

  • +9

    Samsung are the android inovators. They set the market and other players follow.

    They had a lot of cool features before market. Like Apple.

    Smartphones now however are too mature that big changes aren't comming.

    • +8

      What about the great iphone innovations like being the 1st to:-
      * Remove a Headphone socket
      * Remove the power plug (to save on freight, packaging etc)
      * Putting a smaller antenna in after the iphone 8

      • +1

        Didn't Samsung do the same with the first 2 ?

      • +2

        Can't tell if you're being sarcastic :P
        Removing features and inclusions heralded as great "innovations" …

        • +4

          Definitely sarcasm, but hey we all have to look at the positives of these things.
          After all, Samsung removed the MicroSD slot.

    • Aren't the google pixel phones the flagships / innovators?

  • I'm not just talking about phones though.

    There are home appliances, for example, you wouldnt catch me buying a Samsung washing machine because I know what Samsung customer service is like, but I know people who have just because its a Samsung so they assume its a good product. When i've had issues with my Bosch they have sent people within a day or two to fix it and didnt even charge me when it was actually an issue on my end once, really doubt you'd get that service from Samsung.

    Then there are IT products. My Samsung SSD died, had to chase up 4 times over a couple of weeks just to get an RMA nujmber issued, and weeks more to get a replacement.

    But even phones, i've had a couple of issues that have been clear warranty issues that they have tried weasel out of, to the extent that I've gone through the retailer isntead with better luck.

    • +4

      Even as a huge fan of Samsung phones, I'd avoid any Samsung appliances like the plague, they're always packed full of features that you'll never use, but they just can't get the fundamentals right

    • Samsung marketing budget is like 600 trillion dollars. Their production budget is around 2 dollars. They usually have one or two good products at the top end of the scale (still not as good as other brands) which they advertise like crazy. So many people think they are getting a good product just because they see the big blue and white sign with Samsung ads everywhere and assume its the best. Far from it! They usually have the lower models have a similar look/design but function nowhere near the top models. So people see a Samsung for cheaper and expect they're getting a great product for decent price. If you're not getting the best model from Samsung its pretty much trash and overpriced. This is how they are the number 1 seller for TVs and many other products. Its scam marketing designed to advertise them as the best which they have never been in any area. Quality control is awful for all their tech. Of all the brands they have the worst failure rate by a long way for white goods and electronics in general. They don't innovate, they steal or buy out companies then advertise it as new tech. The first thing they have done solely by themselves is now QD OLED TV's which they invested billions in. Hopefully that's a turnaround for them

  • +36

    What ridiculous topic. You aren't asking a question, you're just looking for confirmation.

    • +2

      Yeah, I have to agree.

      Reputation only really matters based on your personal experiences with Samsung.

      I bought one of their 75inch 4k TVs in December and it had a broken LED backpanel after a few days. Replaced it with another unit and no probs since. Otherwise, I vastly prefer a Samsung Galaxy phone over an iPhone and their gated App garden any day of the week.

    • +3

      Yep, and just dropped a little low key Apple fanboi jibe in there for good measure.

  • China is real center of innovation though, whatever people may say, they are most creative on how to make stuff of best quality at lowest prices, and honestly speaking some of them have a lot better customer service than Samsung, LG etc.

    e.g. Realme Australia - was so easy to deal with their customer service, like free shipping under warrenty to their repair center if you dont live in melbourne of sydney, they were quite easy to reach out too as well.
    I dont mean to say cheap chinese manufacturer's like dooggee, ulefone, Oneplus, etc sort of Pure chinese phones are easy to deal with for warrenty support in Australia. for these kinda companies you'll be having to pay yourself to ship phone to them in China, to get it repaired etc.

    • FYI realme, oneplus, Oppo are the same company (BKK)

  • +3

    S20 FE - touchscreen issues, Samsung don't acknowledge. Frustrating and bad experience.

    S21 FE - terrible battery life, phone gets incredible hot doing basic tasks, picture in picture glitches, phone goes 5fps sometimes, freezes in camera app, overally janky piece of shit

    Add to that they have been caught throttling apps except for benchmarks.

    I will never buy a Samsung phone again. Terrible. I got S20 FE for free, and S21 FE Upgrade for 180 out of pocket, so I got a good deal, but I hate them both.
    Cheers.

    • +3

      S20 - no issues
      S21 - no issues
      Fold 3 - screen protector peeled a bit. Got it replaced on the spot for free.

      I will buy a Samsung phone again. Happy with the service so far.

      • +3

        Yes S9 operated flawlessly. S22U excellent and operating flawlessly.
        Wife has 13pro. Seriously underwhelmed. It’s too sensitive for us to talk but I’m pretty sure she has phone envy….
        Samsung customer service is fairly crap though….

  • +12

    People tend to complain more than praise. In the past I've had a few dealings with Samsung service with a few phones (some mine, some for friends) and a watch.

    The service I got was fine except for the watch where it was a bit of a pain. But because the service I received was fine, I didn't bother looking for a forum to write a post saying "Sent my phone in for repair. Got it back quick. It works fine". Nothing interesting happened so there's no point posting.

    But if something goes wrong, you can bet people will tend towards posting about it because they have been inconvenienced or annoyed.

    When you're a big player like Samsung you'll sell far more devices than other brands, so naturally you will tend to see more complaints about them simply because there are more people out there with Samsung devices.

    FWIW I haven't had much experience with service for their fridges, microwaves, TVs, and sound bars because all those devices that I've purchased for home and work have had no issues.

  • +2

    I've had the pleasure of dealing with Samsung support across phones, electronics, IT hardware, etc. and every time its below average at best.

    Here's your real problem. You had issues that probably fell outside their T&C. This is a common problem across all brands. If it's new, and some unexpected thing happens, they will likely replace it. If it's old, and outside warranty, or has user issues like moisture, or drop damage, then they won't help.

    I find it hilarious that you're championing Apple as some kind of level of quality they would strive for. Apple will just try to sell you something new or charge you 80% of the value of the item to fix it, when it could be fixed for much less.

    • I've had a very different experience with Apple:
      iMac - graphics card replaced for free after 5 years, there was a record of an unrelated fault within the first 12 months and their customer service used this as a reason not to charge
      iPhone - whole phone was replaced on the spot after a screen fault
      Macbook Pro - keyboard replaced out of warranty due to a known issue
      Apple TV - replaced 2 years outside of warranty as network port stopped working
      iPhone - screen replaced on the spot (1 hour process) with a digitiser issue

      I've been using Apple products for 12 years and never paid for a repair. I've seen the repair cost on the paperwork and agreed that the values are eye-watering.

      • That's some good luck there on the out of warranty stuff. Surprising, and not something I'd expect. Of course if it is a known issue/recall item, that's another matter.

        Any kind of user damage is not covered, even if they didn't do anything specific, and it was more of a design flaw, like making the phones so thin that they bend slightly with everyday use, or letting ambient moisture get in and make it appear "water damage" had occurred.

        Apple also specifically exclude private repairs, bricking items that aren't validated by their very expensive official repair service. Making old phones run slower to "preserve the battery" and definitely not to force you to upgrade. They're not the only ones to do this of course. John Deere do it with farm equipment too. McDonald's with their never working soft serve machines.

        I've never really liked Apple for a number of reasons. I disliked their early designs. Bright colors. Only one button on a mouse. Locked down OS. It seemed like women and artists loved Apple, while more logical types did not. That and the wheels and stand thing. It could be an Onion article, except it's real.

  • They used to be a real competitor for apple but these days they aren't that good. For most people, it's either apple or Samsung, depending on whether you want iOS or Android. I find the Chinese androids better than Samsung. If I want polish, no one does it better than apple.

    • If I want polish, no one does it better than apple.

      are you Sure

  • Been disappointed with their white goods and household appliances in the past. Samsung TVs, fridges and washing machines all broke just after their standard warranty periods. They however make excellent electronics that works very well.

    • +2

      Our Samsung fridge is 9 years old, no problems at all.

      This stuff happens with any brand. We've had several issues with Apple phones, iPad and laptops over the years.

  • +16

    If you think Samsung are overrated, let me tell you about this brand called Apple. They take the cake for overrated, overpriced crap designed for 2 year olds without a brain. Personally I prefer brands like OnePlus but meh, who cares anymore about phone brands.

    • +6

      designed for 2 year olds without a brain

      Why the need to belittle?

      If Android works well for you, then that's awesome! If Apple (or Google, or…), then good. Use what you prefer.

    • I kind of get the need to rag on Apple when they were the underlings, and needed to be stamped out like the vermin they were. But now they're the biggest company in the world, and the narrative remains unchanged. Don't get it so much.

    • Apple sells some arguably overpriced products like the iPhone but the product quality and (especially) customer service is way beyond what competitors offer. I still buy a samsung phone over and iphone due to cost and feature differences but the iphone is more relaible, lasts longer and Samsung customer service is really terrible (try calling their online store - it is impossible).
      As far as Apple laptops go currently their is sadly no brand that can match the quality and reliability and customer service of their machines for a comparable price

  • I never really think much about customer service but I find Samsung to be a reasonably pleasing brand to use. I tend to think of them in comparison to LG, for whom I have a passionate hatred as I have never come across a product of there's that wasn't a complete pain in the arse to use.

    Beyond that I tend to think in terms of models rather than brands I guess. If I need to contact customer service there has already been an unforgivable catastrophic failure.

  • +2

    I have a high end Samsung fridge with the pointless display built in, pointless because unbeknownst to me it was not an android OS it is Samsungs own Tizen, in 1 year there has been one update and no new apps. If I had known it was not an Android OS I would not have purchased it (I am an iOS user so I did not look deep enough before buying, my mistake), the display is basically useless because the storage on the device is only 2gb, not even enough for a decent photo album!

    Second product is their QLED 85 inch TV, the display is excellent and I love it, the OS is crap, the navigation is poor and every time the OS updates it loses connection to my Optically connected speakers (every damn time!) and needs to be fully powered down and back on again…. I purchased an Apple TV for Apple Fitness and wow the difference in the Netflix app is night and day, it just works so much better, so now the Samsung TV is set permanently to HDMI 1 and AppleTV does all the driving.

    Samsung Smart lock, great app, great features, oh except, you want to add someone as a permanent addition to the household with a pin code only? Not a 6 month max term? Oh well you will need to take the front cover off the lock and set it up there!

    The Smart lock is the best of the Samsung products I have, Samsung has good hardware and poor software….

    Oh one last story, My son 4 years ago with the (at the time) premium and new Samsung phone, purchases in New Zealand for his new life in South Korea (wanted to have a phone before he left), gets to lovely SK and the phone screen develops a crack across it, obviously upset that his premium phone has damage and tries to get it to Samsung (a South Korean Company!) and they inform him that he needs to get it looked at in New Zealand…… absolute rubbish when I buy a premium brand at premium price I would expect the vendor to be treating the purchase as such….. My son went to Apple devices after that because the experience with the manufacturer is much improved.

    • TV OS and built in apps are all crap. Why do you think there's a market for devices like Apple TV and Chromecast?
      My Sony TV's with Android OS are slow and clunky mess. I tried Samsung TV at my brother's place and the OS was far more responsive compared to Android at least.
      I don't really care that much however. TV's are not like phones where you frequently interact with it. Once you put something on, you don't touch it for a long period of time.

  • +1

    Samsung phone repairs have been good to me, have sent 3 different handsets in for replacement screens, 1st one was replaced as agreed, 2nd and 3rd ones couldn't get parts so they supplied equivalent in current model for price of screen, so S20 came back as S21, S21 came back as S22

  • +2

    Samsung phones have been outdoing iPhones for years. It's Apple who strives to try and be like Samsung. Not the way you said.
    You can do so many other things on Android that you can't in iPhone.
    Sorry to say but you're wrong

    • Apple led the way with smart phones and Samsung copied them. Yes Samsung add more features to their new phones, but is let down by the OS which is messy to say the least.

      • +4

        Apple led the way with smart phones and Samsung copied them.

        Companies copy each other. Apple has copied many things from many other companies over the years. Their excellent marketing makes people believe it's all Apple though.

        Around the time the original Galaxy Note was released, Apple put out their "Thumb" ad which says having a smaller screen is just common sense.

        Then they saw how successful Samsung's Note series was. Not long after that they started making bigger phones, now they have a 6.7" beast. Did Apple copy Samsung even after they put down their idea, or is it just a natural progression of technology?

        Apple also prides themselves on their design. They've sued other companies for "taking inspiration" from their design.

        But how original are Apple's iconic designs?

        • I'm not denying companies copy each other; and the main comeback majority of Samsung and Apple fanb0is say is "But but but Samsung/Apple made this first"

          It's not even about that anymore; it's about the quality of product and longevity of the product. Both make quality products, but for me personally I just like iOS better than Android.

          • @Danstar:

            I'm not denying companies copy each other; and the main comeback majority of Samsung and Apple fanb0is say is "But but but Samsung/Apple made this first"

            That is what you said, which is why I commented saying companies copy each other all the time.

            Both make quality products, but for me personally I just like iOS better than Android.

            Yup, OS choice is a personal thing. Both platforms have their benefits and disadvantages.

  • I have, and have had, a variety of Samsung products, including phones, TVs, fridge, computer parts (incl SSD), etc. I made a warranty claim about 10 years ago on a high end LCD TV, one week before the three year warranty expired. It had some purple lines. Serviceman came, looked, and it was replaced with a new TV, still going strong today. I’ve not had any other issues, so I’d say I’m happy with the brand.

  • +1

    I had Samsung products for 20 years now. Honestly love the brand never had issues with any other their products actually.

    The TVs I give away to family members when I upgrade and still works years after. I have a gen 1 AC split system, gen 1 Fridge, gen 1 microwave still going strong. Phones are great, I will sell my old phones and upgrade, they don't break. My current mid teir A52 phone is amazing and cheap considering.

  • I usually always had a good experience with their service only gripe is if something goes wrong , like delayed 2 weeks in mail, they are useless. Oh and price of screen replacement is stupid expensive.

    Compared to every other service in Australia I think they are definitely an 8+/10 for me. I've had various other brand phones (change every year) but keep on coming back to Galaxy's. Maybe it is the resell value and ease of selling 2nd hand that makes them attractive to me. I also find them better phones than most competitors, may be due to me being used to them….? Easy to swap phone is important too.

  • overpriced, never buy new as they tank and can be had for 30% cheaper in a few months

  • +1

    It's not about Apple at all. You have to think back further and compare to the like of Sony, Panasonic etc.

    Samsung used to be junk but in the 2010s they became comparable to the Japanese brands. Similar to Hyundai and Kia.

    They're good. No brand is fantastic in all ways.

    • Samsung made the big skyscraper over in Dubai, as well as make oil rigs, as well as all the massive freight carriers.
      They also have a military division, some of which weapons are on the 38th parallel.

      • Yeah good point, this discussion only touches on their consumer electronics which is possibly only a drop in the ocean compared to the rest.

  • Samsung as a product have improved by leaps and bounds since the 90's. I feel they are as good as many Japanese brands. However, Australian sales and support is… terrible:
    https://www.productreview.com.au/listings/samsung

    I recently preordered a Samsung A53 phone from Samsung's online store. Big mistake. They have taken my money, but the phone doesn't show up in my orders. I've emailed them about this, but they haven't replied.

    • +2

      However, Australian sales and support is… terrible:
      https://www.productreview.com.au/listings/samsung

      The problem with productreview is people only go there to complain. It's an extremely misleading site if you want to gauge how good a company is.

      e.g. everyone talks about how good Apple's customer service is, but they only have 1.8 stars on productreview.

  • +1

    Samsung and Apple have both created this myth that you need a "flagship" phone.

    What does the a top of the range phone do that is $1000 better than a mid-range phone ??

    Side by side comparing the new A53 that I just got to a S21 I can't see it

    • +3

      What does the a top of the range phone do that is $1000 better than a mid-range phone ??

      Cameras usually, I'd say they're what a top of the range phone has disproportionately more budget (and marketing appeal) poured into. Then it's lots of little things, 120hz over 90hz, 1440p over 1080p, top end chipset over midrange, premium finishes… and the list goes on.

      Likely most consumers wouldn't much notice or at least be hampered by the majority of downgrades vs the flagship, and they can add up to a more premium experience overall, but that's just not worth it to lots of people.

      But combine those extra under the hood upgrades that all add up, with the top of the range cameras (say S21/22 Ultra models), and you have something that can be more desirable to a lot of people too.

      I'm not sure I'd even say it's $1000 better, frankly top end phones are ludicrously priced these days. last year when I was phone shopping I hadn't even considered the S21 Ultra once based on price, but ended up with a 50% discount practically falling in my lap, making a ~$2000 phone now ~$1000. I'm happy.

  • +1

    I had a fairly good Samsung VCR
    .

    • VHS or Beta? :)

      I remember Samsung introduced some new chassis design @ 1993, that was supposed to be good?

  • They are one of the few left doing good small phones. I missed the good small phones of the days of Sony, htc

    • The Xperia Z3 Compact was really nice! But so is a large screen. Can't wait till foldable phones get slimmer and lighter.

      • They're lighter than you think.

        • I've got the Fold and Flip 3. The Fold 3 has a decent screen size but it would be nicer if it was lighter and maybe a bit slimmer. The Flip 3 is compact and light but the screen isn't much bigger than a normal phone.

  • Yes. Their products aren't even all that reliable either. They're good at making tech and parts, but I'd say actually pretty bad at putting those parts together to make products. I'd say that's there the Japanese have them beat - unfortunately Japanese tech companies are having trouble staying competitive.

  • Never had issues with the 3 Samsung phones I've owned.

    Had a Samsung TV that blew up due to a lightning strike, which I advised Samsung of, yet they repaired it even though it was out of warranty by a year. Repaired in a timely matter.

    Purchased a tablet online and it had a thumb sized colour issue on the screen. The support was poor. Asking me to restart the tablet in the hope it will fix it and a few other things. Updates were poor when I sent it in, but it was still replaced with a new one.

    I would still rate their service as good.

  • I wouldn't touch them with a 40 foot pole.
    If everything goes well, fine.
    But if you need to return your device because faulty and doesn't work as promised, good luck.
    You'll get the run around, fobbed off and ignored.
    After sales service is useless.
    Clearly NOT a top tier brand.

  • +1

    I had to deal with the Samsung support for my mum's phone (A90 5G), she was without a phone for 3 months, worst support I've ever experienced.

  • Firstly, poll is where?

    Secondly, no it's not overrated, let alone highly overrated, they're just stronger and weaker in different market segments.

    So for smartphones, they're basically number 1, it's the definitive Android experience, better than even Google themselves, let alone any others.

    In terms of appliances or other electronics, they're a player and the brand is less important than the individual product. Point is, read reviews for each product and compare to their competitors, the brand itself isn't what's important so it is neither an over or under rated brand, it is just a brand.

  • +2

    Samsung's biggest customer is ………….Apple!

  • Maybe I am lucky I have had a lot of the Samsung stuff for last 10 years and haven't had any problem. The fridge - still going strong, My old S8 from 2017 is still in use by my son. there is also a fully functional S5 in my drawer, no idea what to do with it.
    I am at work now so can't even recollect whether my TV is Samsung or LG (I don't watch it, only kids) but it is almost 6 years old and absolutely no problems with it. I also got few SSDs from them. Overall, can't complain everything seems to last forever.
    p.s. I have never bought an RRP price Samsung item (thanks Ozbargain), so can't comment about the RRP price value for money.

  • Each to their own. We have a front loader & a double door fridge, both Samsung and both good products. The fridge is nearly 10 years old, no issues & the front loader does LOTS of washing without complaint (although the tune it plays at the end is veryyyyy annoying)

    • I love the tune my Samsung washer plays 😊

    • +1

      The fridge is nearly 10 years old, no issues & the front loader does LOTS of washing without complaint (although the tune it plays at the end is veryyyyy annoying)

      You should buy an LG NeoChef microwave next. :)

      • I turned off all the noises it makes, silent bliss.

  • Please make a poll

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