Not the cheapest, but a pretty decent deal in my books.
Google Nest Wi-Fi Mesh Router System (3-Pack) $398 + Delivery ($0 to Metro Areas) @ Officeworks
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There is always a new model coming.
I’m very hopeful there is a new model just around the corner as I need a new system. These have been out a while, use the old wifi5 tech but are still regarded as fantastic. Apparently google is releasing a flurry of new goodies in the near future. Fingers crossed the updated version of this is included.
I still have the first google-wifi (without microphones), going strong
My gen 1s are acting up
Need y replace but want wifi6
@ndftz: Same, my gen 1s have been playing up for the last month or so. Been great for a few years, I was hoping for a few more though.
@Willyeckerslike: Makes me nervous, touch wood. But I also recently hardwired with an ethernet backhaul between two of my three (OG) mesh points and it seems to have improved stability/reliability significantly.
I do hate the Google Home app vs old Wifi app though.
@jace88: I might try ethernet. I can do it next to my tv. Yes the Home app is not very good compared to the old app. I factory reset after my recent problems, took an age to redo, the app doesn't find the pucks, tried numerous times until it found them. A ten minute job took me hours.
@Willyeckerslike: It probably sort of defeats the point if you need to run ethernet to all the pucks, but it really improves performance from what I can tell. I suspect part of the issue is being a first gen mesh product, they hadn't yet started running dedicated channels for the wireless backhaul between the pucks so what ends up happening is any 5Ghz devices (of which many are nowadays vs back in 2017) are fighting for the bandwidth with what connects the mesh points together. I previously had about 10 devices wired into a switch connected to one of the pucks, and occasionally had some throughput issues (and on really really rare occasions it would just drop out altogether for a minute), it has now become much more robust after running ethernet to that puck.
Top tip: dline cable covers/conduits from Bunnings and really long ethernet cables from eBay (but make sure you measure first!).
You know they have a manual switch to turn the microphones off?
Gen1 had ethernet ports on each wifi point.
Hope the new one does too
Nest Wi-Fi Router = 2 Ethernet.
Nest Wi-Fi Point = no Ethernet.There are no leaks of a new version with Wi-Fi 6.
There are no leaks of a new version with Wi-Fi 6.
Then we can start a leak here on OzBargain…
Hope so too. This way you can hardwire the backhaul.
These are shit. Can't switch to 2.4 gz
Nearly impossible to setup any of the Cheaper iot devices
This is a valid criticism if true.
But [1] says "Simultaneous dual-band (2.4 GHz/5 GHz) Wi-Fi supporting IEEE 802.11a/b/g/n/ac"
[1] https://store.google.com/au/product/nest_wifi_specs?hl=en-GB
I have these and I know them with these they're advertised as dual band and technically yes they have dual band but as a user or an argument you have no control over switching the band as a result your devices that require 2.4 gigahertz to make a connection will be unable to.
This is something so basic that Google has screwed up all the neggers can neg away, but there are so many other alternatives in the market now that offer a mesh router that there is no real point in buying a Google home.
Oh also you can't control the modem from your desktop, only from the mobile app.
@dealman: For what it's worth I didn't neg you.
argument you have no control over switching the band
Didn't know this, that sucks
If anyone does not have the budget for these then go for Tplink Deco M5, much cheaper and they work great. Pretty happy with them so far.
Very happy with my M5. 2 units, double storey property, both units upstairs. I get wifi everywhere.
Can't believe I put up with wifi extenders for so long.
I'm planning to buy a mesh for my double storey house. Is the signal strong upstairs still?
Yes, very strong.
Thanks for the suggestion. Will keep an eye out for future OzBargain deals on these.
You can get a 3 pack m5 from good guys commercial for $182. https://www.thegoodguyscommercial.com.au/tp-link-ac1300-whol…
Cheers however needs to register a commercial account with them.
@Twix: Thank you all. Noted I am affiliated with one of the memberships that have access to GG Commercial, and able to order a 3-pack from them.
Is deck m5 better than deco S4 which is currently $149.
@Sukri: At a glance the M5 has more internal antenna’s and a faster 2.4ghz speed.
I also like that’s it’s smaller so can be concealed a bit easier. On paper the M5 is better that others might be able to talk about the real world performance difference between the two.
https://www.tp-link.com/uk/compare/?typeId=5700&productIds=3…
Agreed. To be honest I’m more impressed with these as I think the software is better and has Ethernet back haul if needed too
I can vouch for the TP Link Deco M5.
If you use Zoom at a regular basis, be cautious. I’ve been having stability issue when Zooming, no matter on iPad or PC. It seems a common issue for a while but I haven’t managed to find a solution. Does anyone experience this? Everything else is great, coverage, steaming 4K content, just Zoom…
From settings - preferred activities, turn off video conferencing and reboot.
Reboot modem not your computer. It worked for me at least.
Brilliant! This works for me. Thanks mate!
I got these in June.. after a few days I started noticing packet loss (on wifi and wired) and switched backed to my original nbn router and everything is working fine.
Im waiting for another firmware update to try again. Pretty disappointed
That’s actually interesting
I’m on 100/20, and get those speeds. No issues streaming 4K, or Teams/Google Meets but Zoom says “low bandwidth” or “unstable internet”
I have the gen 1 google wifi
I know. I read so many great things about it so im just hoping its a dodgy update.
I wonder why it’s just Zoom when that “Video Conferencing” preferred activity says “includes google meet, zoom, and more “?? (I mean, they wouldn’t cause issues with their own product)
I actually have 100/40, and google wifi provided 101/37, while my Telstra modem was 108/39. These were over many many tests.
I had these issues constantly. Also had issues with compatibility with Sonos. It eventually got frustrating enough that I sold them and replaced them with a different router. Since then I haven’t had a single issue.
What did you swap to, and what about your wifi coverage? I’ve been considering getting rid of the google wifi and trying the Asus AX86U
I swapped to the ASUS XT8 Zen Wifi. More expensive but also had the benefit of being able to reduce the number of pucks I needed to get decent coverage from 4 to 2.
I have gen 1 units. Does anyone know if I can just add these to the existing network?
Google Wi-Fi and Google Nest Wi-Fi are cross compatible. Use the Nest Wi-Fi Router as the main.
Thanks, was worried they were not
From the Google Store.
Nest Wifi router and points are also compatible with previous generation Google Wi-Fi devices
Yes I have a combination of old and new. I upgraded from the original google wifi and didn’t really notice any difference. Also I have had a zoom problem download ok but everyone say my video as blurry and my children as well and low bandwidth warnings on 100/20 plan. I put the crappy optus router back between nbm modem and google nest therefore having double NAT and it worked perfectly.
“I put the crappy optus router back between nbm modem and google nest therefore having double NAT and it worked perfectly.” I’ll try this out! Does this come with any cons? How does my PC (where I zoom) figure out it should connect to the old router instead of the mesh?
I had wifi off on the optus, just used it as a router.
For casual browsing and Netflix you can get away with double NAT. Double NAT can break access to Plex, cameras, remote access, servers, home automation and more.
Yet all mine worked better
@Twix: Will say, google didn’t like it though, whenever I rang for support first thing they said was get rid of double NAT.
Holding out for a mesh system which supports wifi 6e.
I'm all for new Wi-Fi tech but what do you need from Wi-Fi 6E that you can't do on Wi-Fi 6?
Wi-Fi 6E is under review by ACMA, requires approval and no date is set on when Wi-Fi 6E will able to be used in Oz. Prepare your wallets.
Netgear Nighthawk RAXE500 $780
Asus GT-AXE11000 $836
Linksys AXE840 2-Pack $1105
Linksys AXE840 3-Pack $1560Simple… The 6Ghz band could solely be used for the wifi mesh network, keeping 5Ghz & 2.4Ghz bands free for devices.
NoDowt that would be good for apartments. Tri-band Wi-Fi 6 is pretty solid.
@Twix: Most apartments probably wouldn't need a mesh system, would only add to the congestion.
But wifi 6e with the 6ghz band alone (once you get devices supporting it) will be great to avoid the congestion (until everyone else nearby gets it too, though will likely have less penetration through walls than 5ghz given the higher frequency)
My short review:
During lockdown got sick of my kids screaming "THE VIDEO IS STUCK AGAIN". Bought these, easy to install, works (so far), kids happy.My eldest boy of 3 turned 13… my netgear 7000 blackhawk running the ASUS firmware has been stable and solid as a rock… great range… but I don't have good parental controls on all browsing… seeing a bit of browsing history deletes… you know.
any advice on a router to manage home traffic?
Google Home app has "Family Wifi" that has parental controls, never had to use it though (yet)
I have both generations working together, I am using fttb which is about 100m, connecting to the Google drops to 80m to 85m but straight back to 100m after switching to the 5g signal from my router. Gaining the coverage and stability but losing the speed.
$393 if you have access to Good Guys Commercial.
been that price in the 3 hundreds for forever - picked mine up a long time ago. I reckon there's some better h/w mesh out there though.
I’ll probably get downvoted but these are horrible. Literally buyer beware. Someone has already pointed out zoom issues. I had heaps of streaming issues, devices dropping out. Units locking up. Google support was hopeless. Forums with heaps of people with the same problem.
Switched to tp link X20s. Very very happy with tp link. So stable.
Is this specific to Zoom? We use Google Hangouts at work so wonder if these units will be fine for that! 😂
No, just anything you need consistent wifi. Mine stuffed up with Microsoft teams. Seriously, don’t touch these units.
Already purchased and set it up this morning but let’s see what happens on Monday when I dial into meetings! I did notice a setting that prioritises video conferences on the Google Home app.
@fishybone: DONT USE PRIORITY MAKES TEAMS FAIL
Speaking as someone who has v1 and telstra 100/40
Took me ages to figure this out
Too expensive. You should buy eero 6 from Amazon, wifi 6, only $330. But for me, i choose Aruba or Ruckus wifi 5 2nd hand, they are cheap now but extremely stable and fast.
Do I still need a router with this or does this completely replace it?
Replaces. Who is your ISP and did you get FTTN, FTTB, FTTC, FTTP, HFC?
Aussie broadband via origin and hfc
Plug in Nest Wi-Fi to the nbn NTD.
This is the router
This is the router. I have my Google base point plugged into the black NBN box.
Yep the pain with unstable connection error when on zoom and teams is super bad. If I knew I wouldn't have bought this.
Interesting that when this was $340 with the AP deal there was little interest, but at $399 it's getting a lot more likes.
Do these spy on you/sell your data like every other google product?
The information that your Google Wifi device, Nest Wifi device, Google Wifi app and Wifi features of the Google Home app collect helps us deliver the best Wi-Fi experience possible. Importantly, the Google Wifi app, Wifi features of the Google Home app, and your Google Wifi and Nest Wifi devices do not track the websites that you visit or collect the content of any traffic on your network. However, your Google Wifi and Nest Wifi devices do collect data such as Wi-Fi channel, signal strength and device types that are relevant to optimise your Wi-Fi performance. Google policies and Terms of Services apply as normal to any Google services that you use (like Gmail or Google Search), whether you’re using them on a Google Wifi or Nest Wifi network or not.
More details are in the Google Nest Wifi and your privacy article
By default it uses 8.8.8.8 dns which is google
I hope that them chosing this means the "privacy" assurances still stand. Would be inappropriate to try and sell one message and the truth be that they monitor u via dns one hop after your router
Which is better -> this deal OR ASUS RT-AX-88U and RT-AC-68U as a mesh system ?
This is mesh system and you are comparing it with routers. I would look at tp-link deco M9 if you need mesh system.
You can set up that asus as mesh system too.
Exactly what I was asking about
I need one more wifi point for my setup. If anyone only needs one and the router, msg me.
I have a gen 1 base but the dog ate the power cable. I have a USB-C cable though if you’re interested
Main base as in the Google router? I’m good for that, I just needed one more hotspot/extender things. Cheers for replying!
Another point. I have 2 (plus the main one) and I bought an additional one BUT the dog chewed the power cable
For those complaining about Zoom, I don't have any of these devices and I have 1000/50 FTTP and Zoom sucks for me.
What exactly do you mean by Zoom sucks for you?
I currently don't have a mesh system at home either and I only have 50/20 FTTC, but Zoom works fine for me. Must be something wrong with your setup.
There might well be, I have no problems with other vc software though.
My point is the cause may not be the Google Wifi
By process of elimination mine seems related to my google wifi.
Have you tried direct ethernet cable from your PC/Mac?
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Is a new model coming?