HT have the readynas NV+ version 2 for an insane price of $248 + shipping. This is a fantastic unit and has the robustness of the readynas product range.
The Marvell ARM cpu is still in it's "infancy" stage so there aren't as many addons as X86 or SPARC versions but it's very fast in comparison to the old SPARC NV+ I have.
What problems were you experiencing?
1st NAS - Disk 2 driver problems. Kept telling me the same bay (disk 2) had probs even after swapping the HDs around and testing it. Took the original back to HT and exchanged it (as a DOA)
2nd NAS - Took the replacement home, it updated firmware and rebooted… for 10 hours+… (not resync) - Left it to do it's boot up thing for 2 days with same probs. Would not power off at all so had to pull out the main power supply. Cannot access Web interface at all, let alone to see the log for problems
Took it back to HT today and the helpful service guy tested it and had the same probs (wouldn't boot). Promptly gave me refund.
I will now be looking at another brand, as in the meantime, i have 4 unloved 2TB HDDs :(
I'm not in IT but am quite proficient in computers, but it was not worth 3 days of my time to try and diagnose the problem of a brand new item when you would expect it to work straight from the box.
Good thing is with buying from a bigger store (not like MSY, MWave etc) is that they are better with service/warranty claims, as i don't have to go back to Netgear directly. Plus they are 15mins away, so it's quite easy for me to take the item back to them
I would advise everyone to test out their NAS when they receive it as HT has a 14 day return policy.
I will be picking mine up from Ryde tonight, hopefully I get a good one.
Awesome bargain. I have the v1 model and paid $350 for it 12 months ago.
Fairly sure the v2 supports 3TB drives which the v1 doesn't.
Supports 4 x 3TB drives
2 rear USB 3.0 + 1 x front USB 2.0 + Gigabit LAN
Write 38.1 MB/sec - Read 82.3 MB/sec
Short review here (C-Net) : http://tinyurl.com/7bbtfyo
Geeze that's cheap, so tempted to dump my D-Link DNS-323 for this.
POSTAGE is cheap to Sydney:
postcode 2000 = $9.98
postcode 3000 = $16.83
postcode 4000 = $16.83
postcode 6000 = $35.57
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is the write/read speed much better than v1 ??
Nu? So, what is Shipping for postcode 5000…???
I guess it's a bit hard for you to just go to the link in the OP, and stick one in the shopping cart to check?
$21.49 to 5000
Or… 2x go for $30.81
Secret: Shipping more than 1x can save you some pennies.
"Order together, ie, with a trustworthy friend."
Edit
I still prefer a old pc as a fileserver for costs, but would love to have 2/3 of these if I could spare the dosh, +1
Electricity savings in the long run will be more than warrant spending the dosh.
The power consumption between a NAS and a low power server would be negligible, 10-20 watts max in difference. Sure it will save you over time, in the span of 20+ years.
Theres a post on whirlpool about a guy building an i3 server that consumes about 20-30 watts
By the sounds of your post that guy is building the server to be low powered from the ground up. I did a similar thing with an Atom based system.
However, I doubt too many people have these sorts of components left over from a primary system, they're likely building from scratch.
That said, I do like the idea of building one with the design focused on it being low power from the outset. Can get some cases that aren't too overly large that will still take a large number of HDD's. Leaves open the option of adding a raid card down the line, even if the cost is greater.
with this NAS being essentially the same price as the HP micro server, the savings can be realized basically straight away.
I also highly doubt you can build a mini-itx box for the same price as this NAS
You can build a server cheaper than a stand alone anyday.
ASRock AD2700 ITX Motherboard $95.00
A-RAM AR4GB1333D3V DDR3 PC-10600 1333MHz 4GB $22.00
CoolerMaster eXtreme Power Plus 390W $49.00
Leaves you around $100 for a case
And this server is capable of saturating a gigabit connection.
I dont think you understand how miniscule the "savings" are on electricity. Were talking cents a month… youll replace the unit before you even break even.
He said old PC. Not building a new low power solution. Unlikely you'll have low power components lying around.
The average old PC from the past few years consumes 100W on idle and a nas about 30W.
613.2KWh difference per year usage assuming idle at all times.
Cost of electricity is 22cents/ KWh in NSW
Results: $138.95 extra in electricity cost.
So 20+ years? No. Less than 2 years.
@Keefy
100w!?!? where are you getting this figure from? My old quad core nehalem idles at around 87w take off the 5850 card and 2 CD drives and all the ridiculous led fans and it'll go down by 20-30w.
Then take into account how the NAS will take longer copying files thus stepping out of power saving mode for a longer time.
The price comparison was for a low power server vs stand alone NAS.
I tend to agree about using an old pc as a fileserver
……..geez what a difference in speeds Write 38.1 MB/s vs Read 82.3 MB/s
At least on an old pc with linux & good gigabit nic the read vs write are almost the same
However these kinds of devices do make it real easy to pop in a couple of hdds & your good to go ;)
There was another review where they were getting writes of around 60MB/sec in RAID5 config.
StorageReview : http://www.storagereview.com/netgear_readynas_nv_v2_review
Remember that (older) PCs in RAID will also choke on writes. It's not about the Network card, it's also about how much Disk I/O the CPU can handle.
From another review I read, another potential speed limiting issue is a lack of RAM in this unit (only 256MB, and not upgradeable like the v1 of this box).
Anyway, after running a PC and a NAS for my file server, I'd never EVER go back to using a PC (just for files). Its complicated, larger, and uses more power, plus there is the ongoing hassle of maintaining an operating system (esp bad with Windows).
The question is - can you get faster writes than this in a 4-bay device for $250-ish?
As this NAS has only 256 MB RAM (I think),
your preference makes sense.
(Gone now, but - earlier today -
there was a cheap desktop on OB
that might have worked, at least for
a -small- max. # of concurrent users;
that box had 4 GB RAM & 500 GB HD)
geeze the price is good.
now can i justify to change my nv+ v1 to v2 ???
i bought a v1 around 5 years ago for $1300, it's still rock solid to this day. it's worth the upgrade
20-25MB/s upgrade to around 50-60MB/s in RAID5
So, how to put one of these on WiFi…?
The same way you put anything in your network on WiFi. Using a WiFi Router.
I hope you weren't even considering adding a WiFi adapter and streaming up and down to it over Wireless? If so, it's a bit of a waste of money getting a NAS of this performance to then strangle it over WiFi.
What would be good enough for me to stream movies and music over wifi? I don't want to spend crazy money if the wifi is going to slow NAS box down.. I have been looking at this box too.
Thanks guys
Just bought one for pick up. My first NAS. Been patiently waiting for a suitable NAS deal to entice me. I think she is the one for me. Thanks for introducing us OP. I hope our relationship is one of stability, reliability, easy accessibility, longevity… and of course redundancy.
Just bought one for pick up.
Buggers don't seem to have any in NSW. Mind you, last time I bought from HT the price in teh North Ryde store was $10 more than the online price. I drove over there and then realised I could have got the item delivered for 2 cents cheaper.
I paid the online price for pick up at Hawthorn. Should be ok I think. They can't change the price on me after I've paid.
you are still in luck i think. NthRyde has 12 units and warehouse has 121 units to ship to store for pickup.
Good price and lots of features… Does this support any torrent clients as well?
i believe there is a transmission client in the community forums. if you install SSH you can essentially run many linux programs from it!
Yeah wondering as well what program installs would be possible on this? Not just torrent but any web page based other programs people use.
Would this be better (performance wise) than the amd cpu in the HP Microserver? So the RND4000 has a proprietary web interface config compared to the HP which can have any x86/x64 OS for management SMB shares?
Just ordered one for pick-up. Can't wait.
Have 2 x ReadyNAS Duo's already which I'll set up as 2 x 4TB RAID-0 backup servers over wireless. No need to back these up as they will be the backups for the NV+.
The NV+ V2 I'll set up as 9TB RAID-5 on the primary LAN (wired).
This will keep the NV unit looking clean (without USB attached devices which cluttered my DUO units) and have backup DUO units stored in a remote part of the house.
Looking for a good price for Hitachi Deskstar 7K3000 HDS723030ALA640 3TB disks for the NV+. Anyone found a good deal on these? These are a good all rounder drive for the NV+ as they have double the SATA speed (6GB/s cf 3GB/s) of the WD 3TB drives and 3 times the warranty (3 years cf 1 year) of many of the Seagate 3TB drives plus RVS technology.
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The HP Microserver ( N40L model now ) is still available at a similar price to this.
But you still have to add an operating system, screen, keyboard, mouse etc. The N40L is certainly a more powerful and flexible unit, but it's also a much more complex solution if all you want/need is somewhere to store your files.
Also, the N40L does not support RAID 5
Can anyone recommend a good cheap gigabit switch to accompany my new NAS? I have an Airport Extreme as my main gigabit hub and want to put this NAS in a separate location near my wired Mac Mini, so I want to put a switch here that both devices can hook in to.
How many ports? The smallest is probably a 5-port. I actually have a D-Link 5-port here that I was intending to sell on eBay.
Just 5 ports will suffice. 1 to take incoming connection from the Airport Extreme, 1 for PC, 1 for NAS.
http://www.estore.com.au/HP_J9450A_Procurve_1810G_-24_Port_Gigabit_Switch-_Web_Managed_HPE9450.aspx?utm_source=staticice&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=HPE9450#.T04NvnLzysE
was thinking about this one to replace my Cisco 2960. the deal was posted here a while ago
I might just get a ~$30 unmanaged 5 port switch, eg. Dlink, TPlink
Does it comes with 4 drive bays from HT or you have to purchase it separately?
This is the disk less version, so you will have buy compatible drives separately
I know its a diskless version but i was talking of tray which hold the hard drives. Some retailers sell them at about $40-50 each.
OIC, yes, it has the 4 trays included
What are these for? A big external hard drive with 4 separate HDDs inside?
Yep, pretty much. And for raid, also has usb3. And networkable, can install torrent sw etc.
edit
A big external hard drive with 4 separate HDDs inside?
Yes, but connected on the NETWORK, so all your devices share the same storage. Low power, sits there sleeping until anything calls it.
I meant to say the trays which hold the hard drives. Some retailers sell them seperately.
A (presumably US-sourced) review says it's fan is NOISY (when running), so maybe that noise will help keep sleepy employees awake when doing boring work at the office…? ;-)
Seriously, is the AU version's fan as noisy as the review claims?
Also, is there an extra RAM socket (Is RAM really "DDR" (& -not- DDR2 or DDR3, as the Spec list suggests)?
How was torrent software to be installed?
Is there a web site like OpenStora (for the other recently hypped "deal" NAS box), ie, with info on extending its functionality?
Oh, on HOT Aussie Summer days, if your AirCon fails, be quick to to turn Off your NAS…
the NV+ is noisy, the NV+ v2 is quiet
make sure you are reading the right reviews, this is the version 2, not vanilla NV+
Good to head it. Thanks.
Thanks just ordered one for pickup in perth
looks like there are add-ons for the NAS
http://www.readynas.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=48
I wouldn't invest in one of these. Thunderbolt will be on most motherboards with Ivy bridge, storage enclosures will come out with Thunderbolt and you'll be able to do much better software RAID.
There is always the next best thing around the corner.
A Thunderbolt solution, fine as it will be, is going to cost a whole lot more than this.
Different uses if you ask me. Thunderbolt devices will probably be used as external drives more so than networked drives. If routers adopt thunderbolt so you can network these, you'll be bottlenecked by the same network interface anyway.
I just bought a Synology DS212j for 238 2 weeks ago :( Should I regret??
Are you going to fill up 4x3TB of HDD space? Do you need Raid 5?
If not then you should be happy.
12Tb of HDD : Yes. RAID5 : No. But looking at the OS I got with my DS212, my mind is settled at last
What is this used for? Are u guys all working in IT dept of big companies or are you home users?
How can you find enough porn to fill these up if u're home users?
Rewatching porn is not as fun as rewatching movies, just stream it.
Bluray images are the best way to fill up HDD space. Its not hard filling 6TB of space with movies from 30-50gb ea.
I wish this had firewire or something
Its got gigabit?
Firewire? Why?
It's a NAS (NETWORK Attached Storage) device.
Is there much difference to Buffalo LinkStation Quad NAS server??
Which is my current NAS
http://www.ht.com.au/part/Y9054-Buffalo-LinkStation-Quad-NAS…
A little off topic but you guys seem to know heaps about this. I am looking for a recommendation of what to purchase.
Setup/ stuff I want to connect
Xbox 360 slim
Mac laptops
Windows laptops
IPod
IPhones / Android phones
Jambox Bluetooth speakers
Here is what I want to achieve
*central media stoage (photos / movies / audio)
*ability to stream audio
*automated back
*ideally all wireless (however could position next to Xbox to device to play video)
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Yep, buy a NAS. It will do everything that you require.
Don't use wireless for streaming video, it's crap.
Would this be great to use for a security system? got 3 x IPCAM running and would like a low power consuming server/PC to be on 24/7 for recording purposes.
Just ordered one as a replacement for v1 (for which I paid $1K).
Do yourselves a favour and buy one
Awesome! Just bought two. Cheers
hmmm.
"Conclusions
With good performance and decent ease of use, the ReadyNAS NV+ v2 makes a good NAS server for environments where its noisy fan won't be a problem." - cnet review.
I have hp microserver sitting idle. Not sure worth upgrading.
Not commenting on this unit, im sure its a good quality one but my first NAS was from netgear which was a 2 bay IDE only, it was a real piece of shit. It had flawed firmware updates and I lost my data many times. Since then I have lost confidence in the Netgear brand. I stick to Dlink and Netcomm now and been happy. I am sure Netgear has improved since then (4 years ago).
I had a similar experience with one of the older NAS devices.
So I am a little reluctant to go for this.
Just looking at some of the videos, this does not look half bad for the price that is.
I imagine Netgear and cleaned up their act from a few years ago.
Yeah, sounds like you had a Stora. They were/are pretty crappy. I've been a ReadyNAS NV+ owner since they were released by Infrant about 5-6 years ago… well before Netgear bought them out and rebadged their design. I have since bought the Netgear versions for myself, friends & family and they're still as bulletproof as they always have been. Excellent product especially at this price! My first NV+ cost $1100, EMPTY! I then spent more big bucks loading it up with 4 x 500Gb drives, then upgraded to 1TB drives when they were released and then upgraded to 2TB drives when they were released. That unit is still running perfectly to this day.
I have Freenas and HP Micro server with 8GB ECC ram and 10TB HDDs but I am unhappy with the Freenas as it is still very buggy. I managed to set SSH, SFTP, SHTTP, and has folders for sharing with family and folders for private etc.. but due to my time limitation, I don't trust Freenas to keep my data safe as it has too many small issues that I have decided to abort that pathway until it matured in 2-3 years. I have decided to order this product to save my sanity.
Sounds like you're using FreeNAS's -latest- "completely rewritten" version (which requires 8 GB RAM)
Have you tried the previous version of FreeNAS?
It wouldn't require as much RAM; I wonder if it had as many bugs, as the new "rewritten" version does?
Also, which version of the HP MicroServer to you have (N36L or N40L)?
N36L server but this is related to the Freenas v8.03 and not the microserver unit. I have just checked V8.04 is now out. I have doubt that it will resolved the slow copying speed issue. I am getting 8-20mb/sec copying over my giga network setup with my hp procure router which is very disappointing. Sharing with samba was fine until the latest 8.03 (many have reported this bug)which I hope 8.04 will fixed.
Anyway, I will backup my drive tonight in ready for the NetGear ReadyNAS NV+ RND4000 V2.
Does anyone know if it support web hosting? like buffalo Nas
There's a comparison chart of the models here:
http://www.readynas.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/ReadyNAS_…
It would be nice to see if HT can clarify the specs - HT claim it has 64MB Flash, which indicates it's a V1 and not a V2. That means no USB 3 and no >2TB disks.
That table has a number of error in regards to the V2
Go by the manufacturers specs.
http://www.netgear.com/service-provider/products/storage/res…
http://netgear.com.au/home/products/storage/prosumer/RND4000…
12TB Total storage
http://www.readynas.com/?page_id=82
3TB that work
Hitachi Deskstar 7K3000 HDS723030ALA640 3 TB 6Gb/s 64 MB Yes 3 Must be used with 4.2.16 or newer firmware
Western Digital Caviar Green WD30EZRS 3 TB 3Gb/s 64 MB Yes 3 Must be used with 4.2.16 or newer firmware.
Seagate Barracuda 7200.14 ST3000DM001 3 TB 6Gb/s 64 MB No 1
Seagate Barracuda XT ST33000651AS 3 TB 6Gb/s 64 MB No 5
Netgear need to get their act together, if you compare even your link and Steptoe's they're different. Steptoe's says it has the IT3107 CPU (which is SPARC, which means no >2TB disks, where yours has the Marvell CPU.
There are perhaps different revisions within the RND4000 v2s. I got an order in, so it will be interesting to see what I actually get.
There are no different revisions of NV+ V2, all V2 are marvell CPUs. The V2 was released in October sometime.
It's very easy to get the google search wrong as you may inadvertendly click on specs/reviews that apply to version 1. Partially Netgear's fault as I don't like their naming choice of this improved model either.
Not only this, but the original NV+ was a business grade product whereas the NV+ v2 is a prosumer device. You will miss out on some features like Active directory that were actually part of the original NV+, but not the V2
Cheers for that, time to upgrade from my 5+ year old Infrant branded NV methinks
:-( the page 404s now, even from their home page
Page Not Found
We are unable to locate the page you have requested.
same here.
Looks like a price error, not found
There was and still is a banner for it on the front page. Looks more like the deal has expired to me.
has this now sold out ? When I click on the item on HT website seems to be sold out ?
Same I think it has sold out :(
Looks like it has sold out… which is odd as there was ~120 in stock about 2 hours ago when I checked on my phone. Was going to order when got to work, but now too late!
Its gone now..sad
I was lucky to order mine last night.
No its sold out, and not any error
I spoke to Customer Service and orders for this went crazy.
They said in one particular case the order was for 12 of these, so without putting a limit of 1 per order, it was possible to get as many as you wanted.
Broden found out these were PS3 Media Server compatible.
Dammit… i bought it 2 weeks ago for $498, so a great find
EDIT: i had problems with my first one and got it exchanged yesterday, albeit with a bit of hoopla from HT.