Been reviewing Amazon daily hoping it would be under $600.
Scorptec seem to be the cheapest at the moment, no where near an atl unfortunately
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Synology DiskStation DS423+ 4-Bay NAS $789 + Delivery ($0 to Metro Areas/ C&C/ in-Store) @ Scorptec
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Jfi2ee on 03/03/2025 - 16:34 scorptec.com.au (847 clicks)
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yep, so many other options for a NAS nowadays.
What do you recommend? Been looking into building one from scratch but time and money :)
depends on what you want to do (run containers etc), some of the new terramaster ones have some pretty good spec. I feel like Synology, you are mostly paying for the DSM software.
If you are getting a NAS to run containers/turn into a media server etc, you will need to also buy more RAM for the DS423+ because 2GB simply isn't enough. I was lucky to get it on sale for $575 2 years ago, but 2 years later, I barely use DSM, it's just been the software that I used to install portainer and I manage everything through that instead.
@pyramidpirl0: What do you recommend for general file back up as well as using as a Plex server? I've read positive reviews of Synology software compared to Terramaster
@Jfi2ee: if you can wait, I'd probably wait for a deal on the Terramaster F4-424 (https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/885133).
basically you're getting a newer cpu (n95 vs celeron j4125), 8gb ram vs 2gb, 2x 2.5gbe (vs 1x 1gbit). Should be fine to run plex as long as you just get docker setup and run it through there. I had the option of running plex via DSM or docker, DSM was far slower with updates and docker was just far more convenient to manage.
you're welcome to look for other 4 bay NAS', just the thing to look out for is what CPU is running. If your main goal is running a plex server, then aim to get an intel cpu with quicksync so you can do hardware transcoding. Even the QNAP TS-462 seems like a better option (N4505 - slightly newer 10th gen cpu), 4gb ram, 1x 2.5gbe)
@Jfi2ee: I've been a syno user for 7 years but I barely use on of its features apart from backups and it being a file server, almost all of my apps are in docker.
I'd suggest waiting out for deals on the Terramaster options, the N95 CPU is about twice as powerful as the older CPU's in the Synology units. You also don't need to run their OS if you don't want to, TrueNas Scale or even HexOS for the simpler setup are options.
Apart from that the syno has been pretty much faultless for me, I had to replace the power supply last year.
@pyramidpirl0: If you've researched NAS hardware recently, could you recommend something for what I need:
- Sequential Reading/Writing batches of 50GB-300GB, consisting of files 5GB-50GB in size across my local network at 2.5gbit.
- 15TB capacity, Probably RAID1 so I have to worry about disk failures (I know RAID isn't a backup, just don't want to stress about a HDD shitting it's self)
I'd either use scp or sshfs. Any recommendations (I haven't started research yet) ?
Definitely. At least you won’t be limited to what synology limits you. I got 923+ few years ago because didn’t have time and now regret it because don’t have freedom to do what I want.
This includes resources as well as apps or features compared to when you go with e.g. truenas and can entirely do what you want.
Bottom line: don’t limit yourself into a closed ecosystem. Synology is playing same game as Apple.n5095 mini-itx NAS motherboard from ali express (12 SATA ports) - was about $180 AUD delivered.
16GB Corsaire Vengeance DDR4 3200 SO-DIMM - amazon - $44
Jonsbo N3 mini itx NAS case - PLE - $229
thermaltake toughpower SFX 550W PSU (total overkill for this) - PLE - $159
6 x SATA thin cable ( ADCAUDX or similar) - amazon - just makes connecting SATA backplane to motherboard so much neater - $24
total = $660 AUD or soinstall auxxilium and configure it as an SA6400, then install DSM 7.2, the intel iGPU supports transcoding for jellyfin / plex video streaming servers.
@Aggregate3: thank. 2.5GBe ethernet would have been nicer for a little bit of future proofing, but I currently only have 1GBe network equipment on my home LAN. If I build a second NAS I'll probably go a mini-ITX NAS motherboard with on-board 2.5GBe and 6x SATA ports (I can add an M2 to SATA adapter if I need more).
@gizmomelb: Yeah, a more modern CPU is also appealing, something with an N100 or similar but with those M-ITX boards you can usually add a PCIE card to get either faster networking, a GPU, an HBA or whatever.
But overall, what you put together there should easily beat an off the shelf NAS.
The options available today are the same ones available two years ago?
I paid $799 from scorptec in May 2023 for the DS423+. Sure you are referring to the same model? There is a 423 and a 423+
The DS423+ was only released in March 2023 so i doubt it was $569. Happy to be proved wrong haha
Guess i was wrong haha. thanks
Almost 6 year old CPU? No thanks, Synology need to up their game when it comes to hardware….
Exactly.. Synology had rock solid OS but this is so old
waiting on a deal for the synology ds1821+
meh I will stick to the brand I know QNAP.
Can you recommend qnap model? I was planning to get DS423+ but it's expensive.
they both have very similar pricing, as many mentioned you are buying the software. just like apple.
either you go with syno or terra or self build
there are many brands between syno and terra but why go to the middleI converted my old PC with truenas, but I didn't have time to maintain and update properly. That's why I am looking for software options, to run my Plex and and store my CCTV recording. I thought DS423+ supports the media server than DS923+. But never looked into other brand as Synology always have good support for software. Even with the offer the price is expensive
@Nandri: Yeah the saving we get with synology is not $ but time and peace of mind. Well unless you are tech savvy
I have a QNAP TS-264. Only need 2 bays. And it has been amazing!
Are you using it as a Plex server and what is your feedback if so?
@Jfi2ee: I'm using it with a lot of things. I don't like Plex, so I use Jellyfin.
I have a lot of docker containers: firefox, qbittorrent, actual-budget, portainer, immich, certbot, nginx, pihole, handbrake, calibre, radarr, sonarr, watchtower and more lol
The N150 NAS motherboards just came out, legit better off building your own and putting on TrueNAS
Why do this? Scalability, open source, easily repair/replace parts. It's not going to be much cheaper but it will give you control and not locked into a closed ecosystem.
Even if you don't want to build your own, you can buy a more powerful Terramaster and still put on TrueNAS or Unraid on it. My advice if you are going to buy a Terramaster, is wait for the hardware refresh to N150/N97/N355 etc
I have seen people do very well with pi 5 16gb NAS builds also way cheaper
Does the Pi get installed in a single case that houses the driver too?
may as well get an intel n5095, n100 or other variant motherboard than a pi - about the same price and much more powerful, can have more RAM as well.
for people who think syno is expensive, its just like apple. good software, and not much maintenance issues
i bought second hand ds1511+ for AUD500 (no HDDs) from mid 2011, run 24/7 and never have issue until today. 14 years!
equal to 9cents a day cost.NAS are pretty low maintenance.
I mean you run an smb share and really don't have to touch it.
I had a 223j donated to me to try, my God you best make sure to skip the budget models. After uploading about 4tb of media (which took nearly 2 full days) it started indexing the files. This took about 10 days non stop, the nas was crippled during this time and could barely manage 40mb/s transfers let alone view media on it
can anyone confirm if buying a nas thats not x86, eg ARM chip still has compatibility issue with apps/dockers and etc ty
Got the DS324+ for $575 from Amazon in July 2023. Great NAS, especially if you plan to use PLEX. Been running 24/7 ever since. No issues.
What's the most functional nas for saving documents and music in a nas with cloud storage for redundancy. Max of 1 tb all up. Diy is also okay, just want a plug and forget it solution. What would be the recommendations?
To be honest it sounds like you just need an old PC. Any NAS like Synology will require some tinkering and so will not be the plug and play that you might like.
I've done old PC ( hp z210) with truenas core before. The results were good for a while but the power supply starting making a lot of noise and I had to retire it. I want to set it up in something that is energy efficient and can run non stop without interruptions, like a router. Hence the query for recommendations? Thanks
n5095 mini-itx NAS motherboard from ali express (12 SATA ports) - was about $180 AUD delivered.
16GB Corsaire Vengeance DDR4 3200 SO-DIMM - amazon - $44
Jonsbo N3 mini itx NAS case - PLE - $229
thermaltake toughpower SFX 550W PSU (total overkill for this) - PLE - $159
6 x SATA thin cable ( ADCAUDX or similar) - amazon - just makes connecting SATA backplane to motherboard so much neater - $24
total = $660 AUD or soinstall auxxilium and configure it as an SA6400, then install DSM 7.2, the intel iGPU supports transcoding for jellyfin / plex video streaming servers. with 5x 10TB 7200rpm drives my system draws <50W at load.
@gizmomelb: Thank you, overkill for my requirements. I just needed a simple low cost solution with minimal needs up to a maximum of 1tb maybe a little bit more if that.
@zxcvb: as someone else said, an old PC will suffice.. you will need to do some config whether you build or buy off the shelf.
@zxcvb: Get one of those lenovo sffwhen they go back on sale for a little over $100.
What services do you need? Just slap on a 2tb ssd and share the drive over the network
@krisspy: My use case is documents plus music. 1 tb with smarts to sync deltas with cloud storage say OneDrive or better ever day. It's long over due project.
Do I need ecc ram, can the sff be run 24x7 without sleeping and if so can the power supply last?
@zxcvb: One drive app can easily sync folders with Windows.
They're refurbs so usually have everything ready to go unlike nucs.
should be able to run 24/7 theyre popular units for home labs which do more work that what you're requiring.
@krisspy: Perfect, Thanks. I just need to sync documents and stream music inside the house. No other services required, no media playback or transcoding or any such thing.
any suggestions for best backup options for a Synology NAS? Currently have 4GB of data on a DS920 witn 2 x 8GB Ironwolfs, half of it personal photos and vids, half of it less important Plex content. Was going to get an external HD but now reading offsite NAS is best. I could stick one at a relative's house just as a backup but a pretty pricy option.
4gb is a pretty small amount so you could consider just cloud backup for all of that.
Ahh, my mistake, I mean 4TB! And I see it could grow to 7-8TB in the next few years.
Pretty sure I paid about this much* for my 923+, with some ebay sales last qtr of last year.
Not that this info helps anyone wanting to buy now, but for those who have a bit of time - I don't think this is a good price for the 423+
*Edit: just checked, it was $859 end of Nov last year
It was $569 two years ago!