This deal popped via prino so I went to check it out. Have been cheaper but I think it's pretty good price if you want to get it now.
$198 for the non-pro version
https://www.harveynorman.com.au/nvidia-shield-tv-4k-hdr-andr…
NVIDIA Shield TV Pro 4K HDR Android TV Streaming Media Player $276, Shield TV $198 + Delivery ($0 C&C/ in-Store) @ Harvey Norman
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Sorry, a bit trigger happy, fixed
When is the new model coming out?
This is the new model, I believe
It looks just like the 2019 model.
I had to Google and didn't realise that there's a 2021 version but it seems that it's still rumored.
So the one posted would've been 2019 model
I had to Google and didn't realise that there's a 2021 version
New models have come out in 2015, 2017 and 2019.
I'd expect a new model to come out soon…
@jv: No idea why you are getting negged. It's a fair point.
Though the last 2 models were pretty minimal with hardware differences, they aren't really competing against anyone. It's still the best.
More just the software add ons that make a bit of a difference for some.
No idea why you are getting negged.
It's probably all the people who recently bought it and don't want to believe a new model is soon to be released.
@jv: I had 4, 3 Pros and a Tube. Had 2 2017 models before.
No issues if they upgrade. I'll just sell what I have….
I didn't think of a new model, and I'm glad you pointed it out. I'd bet late in the year it may.
I'd bet late in the year it may.
I might wait a bit then, rather than jump in now and regret later.
@scuderiarmani: Wonder if the new model may be a more significant upgrade due to coinciding with the rumored new chips for the upgraded Switch.
@jv: I recently bought one 2 months ago and honestly still hope there is a new one. Gives me hope that nvidia will finally fix their shield remote/keyboard app that seems to have been broken and abandoned for ages.
@jv: It's 2021, releasing new hardware means you're competing for fabrication space against a zillion other companies.
I suspect any chips nvidia can get out they'll send Nintendo's way.
@Blackcat2: Would be going along with the rumours of the new Nintendo Switch as they use the same SoC.
When Jensen puts on his leather jacket
I would guess six months based on rumours of a production stop. That could be just to clear inventory or to open up production for higher margin products like mining cards, like a rumored 14nm A100 based mining card. But….
GA 104's are 392.5mm^2 on Samsung 8mn for US$400 (3060 Ti) or US$500 (3070) but have ~$100 of other components and labour.
T194's are ~350mm^2 on TSMC's 12nm and would need ~$50 of licencing, components and labour to make a shield at least twice as fast (or 30% faster with the 15W NX). The T194 supports 8k encode and decode. It could sell for US$400. It's on an older node. It's a no brainier. But…
T234's are due this year. Nvidia has an order in for Samsung's 5nm with no GPU expected (not that 7nm to 5nm would make much of a difference). T234's are expected to have 2048 Ampere cores. RTX 3060's have 3584 Ampere cores on 276mm^2 of die for rrp US$330 (with ~$70 of other components and labour). A 5nm T234 could be 200 to 250nm^2 and sell in US$300 and US$400 sku's while offering new features like colour depth upscaling or dlss to video services like Netflix and Disney+. Apple TV with an M1 would struggle to compete on hardware or features.
A T234 Shield looks to be cheaper to build than a T194, but my understanding is Nvidia want's to pair T234's with GPU's and sell them to auto makers for quadro prices (because that worked for Mobileye). So we will probably get a T194 based Shield 8k for US$400 around September.
I'll take two.
Goodness. That's coming down in price quickly.
Possibly clearing stock for the 2021 model.
Will it still use the same processor from 2015 though?
The 2015 and 2017 models used the same processor. The 2019 had a slight upgrade.
A gutsy processor though for the job it's doing.
@ash2000: No upgrade. Just a die shrink and GPU overclock. CPU performance remained the same.
Hopefully the rumours are true and they finally move on from the X1.
No, they're expected to stop production of the Tegra X1+ and will be making a new chip for the Switch Pro, which the new Shield will likely use.
Will they finally add a manual ON button so I stop having to unplug and plug in again to turn it off after shutting down. Bloody irritating.
@vlahka: According to this https://www.nvidia.com/en-au/shield/shield-tv-pro/
5-10 W is the typical power consumption. I would think it would fall on 5W for idling, if not less.
5 W per hour x 24 = 120 Watt (0.12 kWH) per 24 hours x $0.30 per kHW (assumption) = $0.036 per 24 hour. Just as a perspective whether it's worth being bloody irritated about.@Blackcat2: vlahka is talking about the fact that if you have to turn the shield tv pro off through it's menu you literally cannot turn it on without pulling the power plug out and plugging it back in. They even tell you this on the screen. It's ridiculous.
@MrFunSocks: According to this https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/forums/shield-tv/9/2233…
It's 3.5 Watt on sleep mode, which what would shield do when left connected but not used after a while which could cost $0.0252 per 24 hours
@equinoxxx: Theres plenty of reasons, more to do with circumstance of where the unit is. Besides I'm sure all of us dont leave our pcs in sleep mode indefinitely.
I think it's still too early. If there is a new model it won't be released until 4th qtr.
Probably, but might be worth waiting unless you really need one right now.
Yes, thanks. I'll add it to the main post
Wow good price. I bought one of these last year for $310 and it's an awesome Android TV box. I mostly use it for streaming shows from apps so I haven't really tested it out as a gaming device or plex server.
Only issue is the controller doesn't stay together since I've dropped it so many times.
I find not dropping things works well
Instructions unclear.
Only issue is the controller doesn't stay together since I've dropped it so many times.
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/133687018396?chn=ps&norover=1&mk…
Have a go at contacting Nvidia support, they replaced my remote control for free even out of warranty. I wouldn't mention the "dropped many times" bit though.
Except if the thing looks like it's been bashed around they will start to question it.
@xoom: They send the replacement to you before you return it. Worth a go, worst case is they ask for payment at a later point but you have a replacement.
Just saw the edit to the title. Appreciated the effort to correct my post.
Thanks
Scored one. Thanks mate!!
Awesome, thanks. Was just looking for a new deal this morning. Shipping was $9.95.
Is there a reason to get one of these if you already have a smart TV?
These are much more powerful. Can run a variety of other things from games to Plex Server too.
I run these on top of Sony X95G TV's which are known to be powerful by Smart TV standards, yet the Shield is much nicer.
I'd definitely run them with any TV, especially non Android models.
I stopped using the 'smart' features on my Samsung and just use the Shield for all streaming and as a Plex server. The streaming app support is much better, the interface is nicer and faster, and plex server capability is a big plus (if you are thinking of running one)
(a nice plus was the ability to disconnect the Samsung from the network and stop their horrid ads integration)
I did a bit of research when ads started popping up on my sammy,
Added the following sites to my router url blacklist. Havent seen an ad on the tv since.samsungads.com
ads.samsungads.com
lcprd2.samsungcloudsolution.netHope that helps.
I disabled WiFi and deleted all the deletable apps on my 2017 Sony Android Smart TV after buying one of these. NVIDIA is leagues snappier than the TV (like literally 5 times as fast) and now my TV is more stable (no more lock ups and reboots now). Also, the AI upscaling algorithm is miles better than you'll get out of your internal TV scaler, especially after the latest update that made it even better.
I’m sorry but it’s likely the Sony video processor will do a far better job of scaling than the Shield.
What the shield does is add a lot of digital sharpening and other effects which, despite appearing beneficial to the untrained eye, substantially deteriorate the image quality.
Thankfully with the shield unlike the some other devices you can allow apps to control the video output which can enable pass through of the resolution of your content to enable your TV to scale properly.
Is there a reason to get one of these if you already have a smart TV?
Not really, if your smart TV works well and has all the apps you want…
Depends what you want to do. If you want to set up a plex server or play emulated games, or download apps that your tv doesn't have, like Kayo most likely, then there are reasons to get this.
Is there a reason to get one of these if you already have a smart TV?
Definitely.
Most people who buy the shield pro already have a 4K android tv. The shield is not only exponentially faster and more fluid, the Android experience (software) itself is far more refined that anything you'll see on even the latest built-in Android TV s.
My soundbar supports Dolby Atmos, but my TV does not and it doesn't have eARC.
So connecting the shield pro to my soundbar, then my soundbar to my TV, I get Atmos on all the steaming platforms (Netflix, Disney plus, Amazon etc) as well as Plex.
Using those apps natively on my TV doesn't get Atmos.
Direct play in plex.
Harvey Norman can get f…
So can your useless comment.
Friended?
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Somewhat agree. Good deal but HN is a deal breaker for me. The guy is scum and I avoid buying from him.
Love mine.
Haven't given it much of a work out beyond getting typing of the dead running via Dreamcast emulation.
Been rock solid for streaming (normal services and from NAS) on our main tvWas just about to buy Chromecast Google tv and saw this. Is NVIDIA shield worth the extra $100? Frame rate matching and upscaling 1080p content seems like the major differences.
The upscaling is pretty disappointing, it basically just adds a sharpening filter to the picture. Bought one myself a few weeks back.
If you want to use it for running a plex server or to emulate games then it's worth it, if not then no.
Have you updated it?
I used to think the AI upscaling was bad, but the last update improved it miles, in my opinion. I notice no oversharpening any more. I use the medium setting.
I wouldn't ever turn it off now, and that's coming from someone who is very hard to please about picture purity.
Yeah it's fully up to date. I have it on medium, and for 1080p content it basically does nothing. For SD tv and DVD type stuff its a choice between a softer image with it off and more visible detail but at the expense of image quality with sharpening artefacts. I'm on a LG OLED.
@MrFunSocks: Weird. 1080p content looks almost like native 4K on my screen. But I feed it high bitrate 1080p, so maybe that's the difference.
I do watch one program in 480p a week and that looks fine too.
I guess it's personal preference, but I'm really impressed with it; and I'm the type of person who colour calibrates their displays, so I definitely care what something looks like.
@BradH13: I would have thought the higher the bitrate the less effect it has, no? I Just tested mine on medium preset with Die Hard "4" (2007) and Eagle Eye (2008) and saw no improvement over basic or even my TV (what I use typically). I've been very disappointed with the "Ai upscaling" since I bought it after hearing people rave about it.
@MrFunSocks: Perhaps your LG TV has its own upscaling turned on. Try turning it off and see if it makes a difference.
@avtech: Shield won't let you upscale if it's using the tv will it? Every time I set plex to auto switch resolution and try to turn shields upscaling on it says unsupported content.
@avtech: Nah the Shield is doing the upscaling, and doing the demo mode of the AI upscaling shows clearly the sharpening it's applying.
Is there any way to screenshot android tv?
How does the upscaling work?
Anything that's not 4k gets up scaled to a higher resolution?
Would it do anything to my 4k 60gb movies?
An ethernet connection on the Shield would be great compared to the wifi issues some CCWGT users have been experiencing.
Shield has that wifi issue too occasionally.
I've got the Pro, the Tube and the Chromecast Google TV.
I bought the Tube to replace my Chromecast with google TV because I wanted the better remote and the upscaling. I also didn't care for the Google TV's GUI which is heavily built around subscription services.
That said, they're just subjective things, for the money you can't beat the Google TV.
Out of the tube and the pro, which is better - or not much difference in picture quality?
There is no difference in picture quality between the two.
I have the tube in the bedroom using Wi-Fi and the pro in the lounge connected via ethernet. The pro does feel faster, I suspect that's mainly due to the ethernet connection but also due to the extra 1 GB of RAM that the pro has over the tube.
The pro has ethernet and USB ports where as the tube only has a micro SD slot.
Gives an idea of the difference.
Not a huge fan of the guy but like Plex.
I have all these devices. The Google TV is great value, but I'd still recommend the Shield.
The Shield doesn't have frame rate matching, and they have indicated that they will not add it in the future. The only device that does frame rate matching perfectly is Apple TV running tvOS 14.5.
I found the upscaling only slightly better than other devices, but I don't think it's worth the extra money.
There's a button on the Shield quick menu that says "match frame rate" and it works flawlessly… You can also download an app from the Play Store to do it automatically.
Ah, yeah good point. I forgot about that button. I'll update my comment to clarify.
When I tried either of those options then I found they caused more problems than they solved.
Edit: wait, looks like I can't edit the above comment after all
Thanks OP
Ordered one.
I've been after one for a while to replace an old media PC I've been using.
Planning to do the same Xmas time. My NUC is starting to show its age. Need to upgrade the TV first though.
shamelessly asking:
If I just want to stream game from my desktop to full HD TV, which one should I get?
Thanks in advance.
If I just want to stream game from my desktop to full HD TV, which one should I get?
A HDMI cable…
Then it need to be at least 10m long
Will recommend the pro vs the tube. It's definitely worth the extra 80 bucks which isn't a lot for a much better user experience.
I had the tube and sold it for the pro. It just lagged too much and can barely run two apps without closing the other one every time.
It was unable to play high res mp4 files (the system freezes everytime) where the pro played it flawlessly.
The internal storage is tiny too.
The internal storage is tiny on the Pro too.
I was wondering if you can access Apple TV movies on the Shield Pro yet? The reason I ask is that the Android environment lacks decent access to 4K content via Google Play etc. I am curious and would like to own one but the lack of higher quality HDR10/ Dolby Vision/ Atmos content is an absolute deal breaker for me. It feels akin to owning a Ferrari but only being able to drive it over speed humps in a school zone at 3pm on a weekday.
https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidiashield/comments/ln1vcp/apple_…
While the official app is coming, this should allow a sideload
I bought this in After Pay sale for the same price in Good guys. Initially i had my reservations on spending $250+ on a tv box. But I would say this is one of the best thing I've purchased after a long time. This device fulfill the following use cases perfectly.
- Run 4K HDR movies with TrueHD Atmos or DTS HD
- Replaces my Samsung TV and Yamaha Atmos Receivers' remote control device with a remote which has a WOW factor.
- Stream games from my PC to my TV
- Perfect 4K upscaling for 1080p videos. (Doesn't work well with lower resolutions than 1080p)
- Perfectly smooth media consumption experience including PLEX.
- Android TV makes it possible to run my VPN
And still, this price seems just too high for a tv media player
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Price is $276