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- - - - petry on 21/03/2021 - 11:43
        
        @RSmith: yeah stick to calling me names because you have special privileges here as a liberal influencer
        
        you use an awful lot of negs every day - your allocation seems to be unlimited…
        
        RSmith on 21/03/2021 - 11:56
        
        @petry: Now playing the victim card. You seem to be a master of tricks.
        
        petry on 21/03/2021 - 16:35
        
        @RSmith: yeah stick to calling me names because you have special privileges here as a liberal influencer
        
        you use an awful lot of negs every day - your allocation seems to be unlimited… government account with multiple users probably
        
        your stalking me is getting really obvious mate…
        
        so Whats that got to do with calling every report on India's continued shooting of protesters including kids as lies over and over again?
        
        You love india because its shares aussies values according to your mate from marketing the emperor Scomo… so all those dead and blinded people including kids that you deny ever existed well they just don't matter heh?
        
        https://time.com/longform/pellet-gun-victims-kashmir/
        
        RSmith on 21/03/2021 - 16:39
        
        @petry: Cry me a river…
        
        You stick to calling our leader names and just like a snow flake start complaining if someone points out your own behaviour. Typical tree hugging leftie.
        
        Your posting the lies won't automatically change the lies to truth. Try harder next time.
        
        petry on 21/03/2021 - 16:50
        
        @RSmith: yeah stick to calling me names because you have special privileges here as a liberal government influencer
        
        you use an awful lot of negs every day - your allocation seems to be unlimited… government account with multiple users probably
        
        your stalking me is getting really obvious mate…
        
        so Whats that got to do with calling every report on India's continued shooting of protesters including kids as lies over and over again?
        
        You love india because its shares aussies values according to your mate from marketing the emperor Scomo… so all those dead and blinded people including kids that you deny ever existed well they just don't matter heh?
        
        https://time.com/longform/pellet-gun-victims-kashmir/
        
        RSmith on 21/03/2021 - 16:51
        
        @petry: I will keep highlighting your double standards. You abuse others but don't have skin thick enough to cope with the same when it is directed your way.
        
        In a classic text book way, you start citing the rules when your own arguments start to fall apart. And lastly, you play your trump card… Racism, hate speech. Blah blah.
        
        You stick to calling our leader names and just like a snow flake start complaining if someone points out your own behaviour. Typical tree hugging leftie.
        
        Your posting the lies won't automatically change the lies to truth. Try harder next time
        
        petry on 21/03/2021 - 16:53
        
        @RSmith: @RSmith: https://time.com/longform/pellet-gun-victims-kashmir/
        
        'Their injuries weren’t caused by ordinary bullets. Security forces in the disputed region of Kashmir haven’t used those to police demonstrations since 2010, when they fired on protesters and killed 112 people. International outcry followed, prompting the Indian government to supply regional police and the army with pellet guns they called “non-lethal.”'
        
        Since 2010, pellet guns have reportedly killed 14 people in Kashmir, according to Amnesty International. “The Indian forces call it a pellet gun, but it is a pump action shotgun,” says a spokesman from the Omega Research Foundation, a U.K. based charity that monitors military technologies.
        
        In the seven months following Wani’s killing in July 2016, over 6,000 people were injured by pellet guns, including 782 who suffered eye injuries, according to Amnesty. '
        
        According to you even Time lies about indias use of shotguns on protester's …as well as killing kids'
        
        RSmith on 21/03/2021 - 16:56
        
        @petry: The Chinese government has consistently claimed the camps in the far western Xinjiang region offer voluntary education and training.
        
        But official documents, seen by BBC Panorama , show how inmates are locked up, indoctrinated and punished.
        
        China's UK ambassador dismissed the documents as fake news.
        
        The leak was made to the International Consortium of Investigative Journalists (ICIJ) , which has worked with 17 media partners, including BBC Panorama and The Guardian newspaper in the UK.
        
        The investigation has found new evidence which undermines Beijing's claim that the detention camps, which have been built across Xinjiang in the past three years, are for voluntary re-education purposes to counter extremism.
        
        About a million people - mostly from the Muslim Uighur community - are thought to have been detained without trial.
        
        'I spent seven days of hell in Chinese camps'
        The leading Uighur geographer who vanished in China
        The leaked Chinese government documents, which the ICIJ have labelled "The China Cables", include a nine-page memo sent out in 2017 by Zhu Hailun, then deputy-secretary of Xinjiang's Communist Party and the region's top security official, to those who run the camps.
        
        The instructions make it clear that the camps should be run as high security prisons, with strict discipline, punishments and no escapes.
        
        A Uighur man studying at a camp
        Image captionThe Chinese government says the camps are for voluntary re-education
        The memo includes orders to:
        
        "Never allow escapes"
        "Increase discipline and punishment of behavioural violations"
        "Promote repentance and confession"
        "Make remedial Mandarin studies the top priority"
        "Encourage students to truly transform"
        "[Ensure] full video surveillance coverage of dormitories and classrooms free of blind spots"
        The documents reveal how every aspect of a detainee's life is monitored and controlled: "The students should have a fixed bed position, fixed queue position, fixed classroom seat, and fixed station during skills work, and it is strictly forbidden for this to be changed.
        
        "Implement behavioural norms and discipline requirements for getting up, roll call, washing, going to the toilet, organising and housekeeping, eating, studying, sleeping, closing the door and so forth."
        
        Text from leaked official Chinese memo on detention of Uighur people
        Text from leaked official Chinese memo on detention of Uighur people
        Text from leaked official Chinese memo on detention of Uighur people
        Other documents confirm the extraordinary scale of the detentions. One reveals that 15,000 people from southern Xinjiang were sent to the camps over the course of just one week in 2017.
        
        Sophie Richardson, the China director at Human Rights Watch, said the leaked memo should be used by prosecutors.
        
        "This is an actionable piece of evidence, documenting a gross human rights violation," she said. "I think it's fair to describe everyone being detained as being subject at least to psychological torture, because they literally don't know how long they're going to be there.
        
        The memo details how detainees will only be released when they can demonstrate they have transformed their behaviour, beliefs and language.
        
        "Promote the repentance and confession of the students for them to understand deeply the illegal, criminal and dangerous nature of their past activity," it says.
        
        "For those who harbour vague understandings, negative attitudes or even feelings of resistance… carry out education transformation to ensure that results are achieved."
        
        Ben Emmerson QC, a leading human rights lawyer and an adviser to the World Uighur Congress, said the camps were trying to change people's identity.
        
        "It is very difficult to view that as anything other than a mass brainwashing scheme designed and directed at an entire ethnic community.
        
        "It's a total transformation that is designed specifically to wipe the Muslim Uighurs of Xinjiang as a separate cultural group off the face of the Earth."
        
        Presentational grey line
        China's hidden camps
        BBC
        The long read: China's hidden camps
        Explainer: China's Muslim 'crackdown'
        Searching for truth in China's 're-education' camps
        China denies Muslim children separation campaign
        Presentational grey line
        Detainees are awarded points for their "ideological transformation, study and training, and compliance with discipline", the memo says.
        
        The punishment-and-reward system helps determine whether inmates are allowed contact with family and when they are released. They are only considered for release once four Communist Party committees have seen evidence they have been transformed.
        
        The leaked documents also reveal how the Chinese government uses mass surveillance and a predictive-policing programme that analyses personal data.
        
        One document shows how the system flagged 1.8m people simply because they had a data sharing app called Zapya on their phone.
        
        The authorities then ordered the investigation of 40,557 of them "one by one". The document says "if it is not possible to eliminate suspicion" they should be sent for "concentrated training".
        
        The documents include explicit directives to arrest Uighurs with foreign citizenship and to track Uighurs living abroad. They suggest that China's embassies and consulates are involved in the global dragnet.
        
        Chinese ambassador to the UK Liu Xiaoming said the measures had safeguarded local people and there had not been a single terrorist attack in Xinjiang in the past three years.
        
        "The region now enjoys social stability and unity among ethnic groups. People there are living a happy life with a much stronger sense of fulfilment and security.
        
        "In total disregard of the facts, some people in the West have been fiercely slandering and smearing China over Xinjiang in an attempt to create an excuse to interfere in China's internal affairs, disrupt China's counter-terrorism efforts in Xinjiang and thwart China's steady development."
        
        petry on 21/03/2021 - 17:00
        
        @RSmith: 'Articles by the Associated Press, CNN, and BBC also relied on Zenz’s article to claim that plunging Uyghur birth rates and the application of birth control measures in Uyghur counties of the Xinjiang region were proof of a policy of “demographic genocide.”
        
        Just days after the publication of Zenz’s paper, Pompeo issued a statement denouncing China’s alleged policy of “forced sterilization, forced abortion, and coercive family planning,” personally crediting “Adrian Zenz’s shocking revelations.”
        
        Biden backed the genocide charge last August when it first appeared in a flurry of media reports. His campaign spokesman told Politico, “The unspeakable oppression that Uyghurs and other ethnic minorities have suffered at the hands of China’s authoritarian government is genocide and Joe Biden stands against it in the strongest terms.” Blinken, for his part, declared at his first press conference as secretary of state that he agreed genocide has been committed against the Uyghurs.
        
        While Zenz’s employers describe him as “one of the world’s leading scholars on People’s Republic of China government policies towards the country’s western regions of Tibet and Xinjiang,” he is, in fact, a far-right Christian fundamentalist who has said he is “led by God” against China’s government, deplores homosexuality and gender equality, and has taught exclusively in evangelical theological institutions.
        
        Lyle Goldstein, a China specialist and research professor in the Strategic and Operational Research Department of the Naval War College, told The Grayzone that Zenz’s labeling of the Chinese approach to the Uyghurs as “demographic genocide” is “ridiculous to the point of being insulting to those who lost relatives in the Holocaust.”
        
        Goldstein said the Chinese approach to Xinjiang “is a more repressive posture than we would like, but it sure isn’t genocide.”
        
        Moreover, a careful review of Zenz’s research shows that his assertion of genocide is contradicted by flagrant data abuse, fraudulent claims, cherry-picking of source material, and propagandistic misrepresentations.'
        
        you reject facts and peddle fake news
        
        RSmith on 21/03/2021 - 17:00
        
        @petry: The Chinese government has consistently claimed the camps in the far western Xinjiang region offer voluntary education and training.
        
        But official documents, seen by BBC Panorama , show how inmates are locked up, indoctrinated and punished.
        
        China's UK ambassador dismissed the documents as fake news.
        
        The leak was made to the International Consortium of Investigative Journalists (ICIJ) , which has worked with 17 media partners, including BBC Panorama and The Guardian newspaper in the UK.
        
        The investigation has found new evidence which undermines Beijing's claim that the detention camps, which have been built across Xinjiang in the past three years, are for voluntary re-education purposes to counter extremism.
        
        About a million people - mostly from the Muslim Uighur community - are thought to have been detained without trial.
        
        'I spent seven days of hell in Chinese camps'
        The leading Uighur geographer who vanished in China
        The leaked Chinese government documents, which the ICIJ have labelled "The China Cables", include a nine-page memo sent out in 2017 by Zhu Hailun, then deputy-secretary of Xinjiang's Communist Party and the region's top security official, to those who run the camps.
        
        The instructions make it clear that the camps should be run as high security prisons, with strict discipline, punishments and no escapes.
        
        A Uighur man studying at a camp
        Image captionThe Chinese government says the camps are for voluntary re-education
        The memo includes orders to:
        
        "Never allow escapes"
        "Increase discipline and punishment of behavioural violations"
        "Promote repentance and confession"
        "Make remedial Mandarin studies the top priority"
        "Encourage students to truly transform"
        "[Ensure] full video surveillance coverage of dormitories and classrooms free of blind spots"
        The documents reveal how every aspect of a detainee's life is monitored and controlled: "The students should have a fixed bed position, fixed queue position, fixed classroom seat, and fixed station during skills work, and it is strictly forbidden for this to be changed.
        
        "Implement behavioural norms and discipline requirements for getting up, roll call, washing, going to the toilet, organising and housekeeping, eating, studying, sleeping, closing the door and so forth."
        
        Text from leaked official Chinese memo on detention of Uighur people
        Text from leaked official Chinese memo on detention of Uighur people
        Text from leaked official Chinese memo on detention of Uighur people
        Other documents confirm the extraordinary scale of the detentions. One reveals that 15,000 people from southern Xinjiang were sent to the camps over the course of just one week in 2017.
        
        Sophie Richardson, the China director at Human Rights Watch, said the leaked memo should be used by prosecutors.
        
        "This is an actionable piece of evidence, documenting a gross human rights violation," she said. "I think it's fair to describe everyone being detained as being subject at least to psychological torture, because they literally don't know how long they're going to be there.
        
        The memo details how detainees will only be released when they can demonstrate they have transformed their behaviour, beliefs and language.
        
        "Promote the repentance and confession of the students for them to understand deeply the illegal, criminal and dangerous nature of their past activity," it says.
        
        "For those who harbour vague understandings, negative attitudes or even feelings of resistance… carry out education transformation to ensure that results are achieved."
        
        Ben Emmerson QC, a leading human rights lawyer and an adviser to the World Uighur Congress, said the camps were trying to change people's identity.
        
        "It is very difficult to view that as anything other than a mass brainwashing scheme designed and directed at an entire ethnic community.
        
        "It's a total transformation that is designed specifically to wipe the Muslim Uighurs of Xinjiang as a separate cultural group off the face of the Earth."
        
        Presentational grey line
        China's hidden camps
        BBC
        The long read: China's hidden camps
        Explainer: China's Muslim 'crackdown'
        Searching for truth in China's 're-education' camps
        China denies Muslim children separation campaign
        Presentational grey line
        Detainees are awarded points for their "ideological transformation, study and training, and compliance with discipline", the memo says.
        
        The punishment-and-reward system helps determine whether inmates are allowed contact with family and when they are released. They are only considered for release once four Communist Party committees have seen evidence they have been transformed.
        
        The leaked documents also reveal how the Chinese government uses mass surveillance and a predictive-policing programme that analyses personal data.
        
        One document shows how the system flagged 1.8m people simply because they had a data sharing app called Zapya on their phone.
        
        The authorities then ordered the investigation of 40,557 of them "one by one". The document says "if it is not possible to eliminate suspicion" they should be sent for "concentrated training".
        
        The documents include explicit directives to arrest Uighurs with foreign citizenship and to track Uighurs living abroad. They suggest that China's embassies and consulates are involved in the global dragnet.
        
        Chinese ambassador to the UK Liu Xiaoming said the measures had safeguarded local people and there had not been a single terrorist attack in Xinjiang in the past three years.
        
        "The region now enjoys social stability and unity among ethnic groups. People there are living a happy life with a much stronger sense of fulfilment and security.
        
        "In total disregard of the facts, some people in the West have been fiercely slandering and smearing China over Xinjiang in an attempt to create an excuse to interfere in China's internal affairs, disrupt China's counter-terrorism efforts in Xinjiang and thwart China's steady development."
        
        petry on 21/03/2021 - 17:01
        
        @RSmith: so you just copied that again knowing it was propaganda and fake news - you're a joke.
        
        @RSmith: 'Articles by the Associated Press, CNN, and BBC also relied on Zenz’s article to claim that plunging Uyghur birth rates and the application of birth control measures in Uyghur counties of the Xinjiang region were proof of a policy of “demographic genocide.”
        
        Just days after the publication of Zenz’s paper, Pompeo issued a statement denouncing China’s alleged policy of “forced sterilization, forced abortion, and coercive family planning,” personally crediting “Adrian Zenz’s shocking revelations.”
        
        Biden backed the genocide charge last August when it first appeared in a flurry of media reports. His campaign spokesman told Politico, “The unspeakable oppression that Uyghurs and other ethnic minorities have suffered at the hands of China’s authoritarian government is genocide and Joe Biden stands against it in the strongest terms.” Blinken, for his part, declared at his first press conference as secretary of state that he agreed genocide has been committed against the Uyghurs.
        
        While Zenz’s employers describe him as “one of the world’s leading scholars on People’s Republic of China government policies towards the country’s western regions of Tibet and Xinjiang,” he is, in fact, a far-right Christian fundamentalist who has said he is “led by God” against China’s government, deplores homosexuality and gender equality, and has taught exclusively in evangelical theological institutions.
        
        Lyle Goldstein, a China specialist and research professor in the Strategic and Operational Research Department of the Naval War College, told The Grayzone that Zenz’s labeling of the Chinese approach to the Uyghurs as “demographic genocide” is “ridiculous to the point of being insulting to those who lost relatives in the Holocaust.”
        
        Goldstein said the Chinese approach to Xinjiang “is a more repressive posture than we would like, but it sure isn’t genocide.”
        
        Moreover, a careful review of Zenz’s research shows that his assertion of genocide is contradicted by flagrant data abuse, fraudulent claims, cherry-picking of source material, and propagandistic misrepresentations.'
        
        you reject facts and peddle fake news
        
        reply
        
        RSmith on 21/03/2021 - 17:02
        
        @petry: Calling names now. Hypocrite.
        
        petry on 21/03/2021 - 17:03
        
        @RSmith: you replied to something you hadn't read - thats a joke
        
        RSmith on 21/03/2021 - 17:04
        
        @petry: You are pedalling fake news since day 1. That's a bigger joke
        
        petry on 21/03/2021 - 17:04
        
        -1
        
        @RSmith: @RSmith: Personal Attacks - Commenting guidelines
        
        Abuse, name calling and malicious comments directed at a person or a group of people are unacceptable. Disagreements and debates are fine and encouraged but please respect everyone's opinion. Comments of this nature will be removed and if a vote is attached to the comment, then the vote will also be revoked.
        
        nope you 're allowed to do that
        
        Hate Speech
        
        Hate speech attacks or expresses prejudice against a person or a group on the basis of particular attributes (including, but not limited to: race, religion, ethnic origin, national origin, disability, sexual orientation or gender). Hate speech includes spreading misinformation about a person/group with the intent to harm, create prejudice or create fear. Sexist, racist, xenophobic or similar comments will be deemed as a personal attack or hate speech depending on context.
        
        nope you 're allowed to do that as well.
        
        mods reckon you're all good in respect of both lol - so good job! hope your employment works out for you… and the others
        
        every post, every stalk, proves there is no community here because the guidelines are ignored by the mods - the only double standards on display are this sites.
        
        thats the point you've made repeatedly and continue to repeat.
        
        RSmith on 21/03/2021 - 17:16
        
        @petry: I will keep highlighting your double standards. You abuse others but don't have skin thick enough to cope with the same when it is directed your way.
        
        In a classic text book way, you start citing the rules when your own arguments start to fall apart. And lastly, you play your trump card… Racism, hate speech. Blah blah.
        
        You stick to calling our leader names and just like a snow flake start complaining if someone points out your own behaviour. Typical tree hugging leftie.
        
        Your posting the lies won't automatically change the lies to truth. Try harder next time
BALLE BALLE on 17/03/2021 - 07:29

I am after samsung smart watch 3 with Australian stock and warranty with reasonable price. Can someone please help me?
heal on 22/03/2021 - 21:44

This is what got gun deals banned. I guess if the mods are going to be consistant, Huawei deals are going to be banned as well

heal on 22/03/2021 - 21:44 (Collapsed - Offtopic. Show)
- petry on 23/03/2021 - 02:13
  
  maybe they should just enforce the sites rules instead of cherrypicking who is allowed to break them
  - RSmith on 23/03/2021 - 15:51
    
    -1
    
    Exactly. People trying to introduce politics into every thread should be banned first.
    - petry on 23/03/2021 - 23:45
      
      -1
      
      where's that in the site rules?
      - RSmith on 24/03/2021 - 04:49
        
        @petry: It's a bargain site not a political discussion forum.
        
        petry on 24/03/2021 - 10:51
        
        @RSmith: where's that in the site rules? that personal desire of yours applies to everyone including you and you post fake news, and fake political hate statements contrary to this sites rules and federal laws all the time.
        
        RSmith on 24/03/2021 - 10:54
        
        @petry: LoL… You are a proven fake news poster. Political wannabe… Your statements are anti Australian. You can cry but no one cares.
        
        petry on 24/03/2021 - 11:05
        
        @RSmith: mate you're a cyberstalker - your posts make that clear.
        
        The mods allow it even though it also also involves hate speech which demonstrates exactly what this site is.
        
        Trying to bully people away so you can spread hate speech and fake news is Un- Australian.
        
        I don't post fake news, just facts you are paid to attack - before i posted your accounts had unlimited negs for example..
        
        RSmith on 24/03/2021 - 11:15
        
        @petry: Cyberstalker… Another false accusation in your long list of false statements that you regularly make.
        
        You are a troll that's why you make these kinds of statements.
        
        RSmith on 24/03/2021 - 11:21
        
        @petry: Petry
        
        Member since 2016…
        
        Deals posted = 1
        
        Comments ~5000
        
        petry on 24/03/2021 - 13:13
        
        @RSmith: mate you're a cyberstalker - your posts make that clear.
        
        The mods allow it even though it also also involves hate speech which demonstrates exactly what this site is.
        
        Trying to bully people away so you can spread hate speech and fake news is Un- Australian.
        
        I don't post fake news, just facts you are paid to attack - before i posted your accounts had unlimited negs for example..'
        
        you deny what you like and do what you want because the mods allow you to
        
        RSmith on 24/03/2021 - 13:18
        
        @petry: Mate, you are a whinger looking for conspiracy everywhere in the world.
        
        Your posts show your anti Australian mindset and then you go on attacking anyone who points it out.
        
        If that fails, you start playing victim card.
        
        Mods are also allowing your troll posts, so you are also being allowed to do what you want.
        
        petry on 24/03/2021 - 15:15
        
        @RSmith: nope cyberstalker - not at all.
        
        you have denied american journals as fake news, and others from different countries including oz as fake news - you break site rules with impunity - you have posts retrospectively edited and can neg well over 20 times a day until recently….
        
        to be australian is to be inclusive not racist, and not make hate speech cyberstalker.
        
        RSmith on 24/03/2021 - 15:17
        
        @petry: You haven't commented on the fact that foreign journalists are not allowed to report freely from China.
        
        You are a CCP stooge who is anti Australian to the core.
        
        you have posts retrospectively edited and can neg well over 20 times a day until recently….
        
        You are delusional. Time to take the meds.
        
        petry on 24/03/2021 - 15:21
        
        @RSmith: More abuse - more denial of facts. You even deny that all journalist's can't report freely in oz on everything….
        
        even murdoch acknowledges more facts as truth…
        
        RSmith on 24/03/2021 - 15:22
        
        @petry: More making of false accusations against me and the site. Swinging wildly today.

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