I bought it, If you cant wait this is quite a good price.
I have been shopping around for like 2 weeks so yeah :)
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I bought it, If you cant wait this is quite a good price.
I have been shopping around for like 2 weeks so yeah :)
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Just a box
KA is the avengers edition apparently you got a free copy of the game or some jazz like that
i don't think anyone plays that game anymore lol … so lets just say it's box art hehehe
yeah article says 90% if not more of PC gamers dropped it hard after a week or month. That's just sad lmao.
Bottom left corner of the packaging says "GAME NOT INCLUDED"
https://www.computeralliance.com.au/InventoryImages/28754.jp…
that's a blessing…. loll
I believe its an intel deal, you submit your invoice and gets approved, then they send you a game key.
I did it for the 10600K
@glennmoir: Is that the Troy bundle?
@HomeAlone: I did it for the avengers
@glennmoir: edit https://softwareoffer.intel.com/Campaign/LearnMore/874879bd-…
eligible CPUS
Purchase and redeem between August 27, 2020 USA Pacific Time to February 28, 2021 USA Pacific Time
Intel® Core™ i5-9300H
Intel® Core™ i5-9300HF
Intel® Core™ i5-9400
Intel® Core™ i5-9400H
Intel® Core™ i5-9400T
Intel® Core™ i5-9500
Intel® Core™ i5-9500F
Intel® Core™ i5-9500T
Intel® Core™ i5-9600
Intel® Core™ i5-9600KF
Intel® Core™ i5-9600T
Intel® Core™ i5-10300H
Intel® Core™ i5-10400
Intel® Core™ i5-10400F
Intel® Core™ i5-10400H
Intel® Core™ i5-10400T
Intel® Core™ i5-10500
Intel® Core™ i5-10500T
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Intel® Core™ i5-10600T
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Intel® Core™ i7-10700F
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Intel® Core™ i7-10700KA
Intel® Core™ i7-10700KF
Intel® Core™ i7-10700T
Intel® Core™ i7-10750H
Intel® Core™ i7-10850H
Intel® Core™ i7-10875H
Intel® Core™ i9-9880H
Intel® Core™ i9-9900
Intel® Core™ i9-9900F
Intel® Core™ i9-9900K
Intel® Core™ i9-9900KF
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Intel® Core™ i9-10900KF
Intel® Core™ i9-10980HK
@glennmoir: Just tried, was denied. Purchase date had to be no later than Dec 2020.
@mewx: dang. Weird the website says this:
SCHEDULE SUMMARY
Purchase Period: Buy a Qualifying Device: August 27, 2020 USA Pacific Time to February 28, 2021 USA Pacific Time
Redemption Period: Redeem Offer August 27, 2020 USA Pacific Time to March 31, 2021 USA Pacific Time
Intel has jumped the shark - spending money on Avengers branding on a component no one ever sees rather than R&D making faster CPUs.
Can someone pls help? In regards to compatibility concerns, what parts do I need to change if I am changing from AMD 5600x to this 10700KA?
why would you change from a 5600X? that is a better cpu and platform at the moment… and you will need a new Z490 motherboard for the 10700KA… you'd basically pay money to go backwards (sort of)…
I have been buying parts aiming to fit a 5600x, but I am getting a bit impatient to wait for the stock.
you have the CPU or you dont?
@scud70: No i don't. I have everything else, except CPU and motherboard.
@jus0212: Then just buy a Z490 motherboard, everything else should work fine.
@ATangk: Thanks to the rescue my friend. :)
@jus0212: oh i thought you had it … this is about the same price as the 5600X but yeh hard to find.. i got one (5600X) at launch for this price and its definitely over priced … gaming wise this will be fine for many years but i cant comment on the price.. i think the 10600K if its cheaper is a way better buy .. just tune that on a Z490 and you have a 10900K level CPU (also very simple to tune gamers nexus has a guide on that)….
@scud70: Sorry for my wording to cause the confusion. Thank you for your help!
i7-10700k > 5600x, not sure what you're on about
Direct quote from Techpowerup/HardwareUnboxed:
"The 5600X is consistently ahead of the entire Ryzen 3000 series—including the 3900X—posting 720p performance higher than the Core i7-10700K. 720p game tests highlight CPU-level bottlenecks and are a good measure of IPC, which is relevant to gamers. With 1080p gaming, the 5600X is about 4.5% faster than the 3900X and about as fast as an i9-9900K. The i5-10600K is about 0.9% ahead. As we go higher up the resolution ladder, the performance bottleneck shifts toward the GPU. The 5600X is 2% slower than the i9-10900K and 2.5% faster than the 3600X. 4K remains a toss-up, with the 5600X performing within 1.2% of the i9-10900K. Needless to say, Intel's gaming performance lead is basically irrelevant now, as AMD has caught up, and the odd-percent here isn't worth worrying about and within random variation."
People praise AMD because a 5600x can somewhat match the performance of an i9-10900k at a cheaper price. But if a 10700k is cheaper, it's a no brainer for both gaming and productivity tasks
Actually i'm not sure what your on about you just said it matches 10900K and/or is irrelevant at 4k gaming (i would say generally most wil be gaming at 1440p at the moment) … and it is cheaper if you get it at retail price .. its unfortunate you can't … i bought it including shipping for $478 … so yes its a better than this and you can get a cheaper AMD B550 Mobo and still be able to OC etc…
why would you change from a 5600X? … you'd basically pay money to go backwards
ummm, and 10700k similar performance, more cores, cheaper, wow surprising that is going backwards
@ln28909: yes and ? it is a better CPU than 10700K … so you are going backwards IF you owned a 5600X already (he had worded it weirdly so i thought he had one)… if you read what i said once he cleared up he hadn't bought one yet .. i said for gaming i would say a 10600K is a better buy than this… over $100 cheaper and can be tuned to match a 10900K …
@scud70: it's not a better cpu, it is not as good but close enough that makes it a very reasonable offering comparing to an i9-10900k at $1000. However, if i7-10700k is cheper, you'll be foolish to buy a 5600x
There is no reason for people to be buying 5600x or 5800x as intel has much better performance to cost in this area, but everyone is caught out by the amd hype
@ln28909: Ok mate if you think so then no problems… I believe otherwise when you take in to consideration mobo as well… But if you are gaming either platform is fine… And to be clear 5600x is the first amd CPU I've owned since.. I can't even remember… I've had Intel with amd/ati gpu up until now 😊
@scud70: Mobo's aren't that much more expensive for Intel anymore, can get an Asrock Z490 Mobo for $185.
@Jolakot: Hmmm aren't they the worst z490 boards you could buy??? Probably fine if you keep this stock I guess…. Hardware unboxed and GN both got black listed because of their reviews of the asrock 490 boards Loll.. Some couldn't even run a stock 10900K…so definitely watch some of those reviews..just to make sure it's fine.
Hardware unboxed just released their best n worst parts of 2020…asrock z490 got the worst MB crown so Def do some homework b4 buying
@ln28909: More cores means nothing for games. Clock speed is what you need. Look up the CPU ranking benchmarks on anandtech.com. To put it simply, more cores are advantageous if you are doing hardcore video editing or streaming to distribute processes. Don't be fooled.
5600X is not better than 10700K… the intel CPU is about 5% faster.
That and AM4 is a dead platform now, where as Z490 does have rocket lake incoming.
With that said it is not a good idea to change from AMD Ryzen 5 5600X to 10700K..
How is 5600X on a better platform? There is no more AM4 roadmap, where as 10700K has an upgrade path to Rocket Lake on the same motherboard. 5600X is end of the road, unless you start speculating and hope to hell AMD somehow frees enough capacity from console production to make a 5700X.
Well have to wait and see if rocket Lake makes a big leap from 10th gen. Amd wise I think they'll get a 5600 out there with performance at this CPUs level but as with rocket Lake that's a waiting game… Again it's unfortunate AMD cant supply the CPUs.. I still think paired with a b550 it's better than this and a z490.
Fair point, but to be honest, who wants a new CPU on yesterday's motherboard/chipset technology? I personally prefer to upgrade both when a new CPU comes out
@sAmiZZle: Wasn't that a major selling point for Ryzen in the first place? Chipset reusability is definitely a major talking point when it comes to AMD at least.
I kind of agree with you, but that's more down to personal preference/circumstances. There is certainly value in a ~$100-200 upgrade (after selling old CPU) for considerable IPC improvements, or to maximize the current platform without having to change both motherboard and RAM to DDR5.
Intel 1200 10th Gen Motherboard.
Why would you do that?
In any case you could sell the Ryzen for a profit, no stock and huge demand.
The Intel is the opposite, huge stock, poor demand.
You just have to squish the CPU a little harder and make sure it secures snuggly into the socket. Don't worry if a few pins bend. You don't need them all right? :P
…Being silly.
You won't bend a single pin putting the intel CPU in an AMD socket.
I'm still fairly new with comments. I see people don't like jokes much.
I was planning on getting 5800x with a future-proofing mindset to last me say 4-5 years for gaming on a 1440p uw with a 1080p secondary monitor. Not doing any streaming/video editing right now but would like to keep that avenue open. Thinking of getting I7 10700 KA now seeing its more cost effective AND in stock. However, I'm wondering if i7 10700 KA will last me another 4-5 years given it's PCIE 3 support only and GPUs nowadays are already on PCIE 4. Yes, I know that there is no tangible benefit to FPS yet from PCIE 4 so far in gaming but wondering if that will change in coming years. Anyone care much about PCIE4 when doing a fresh rebuild?
If you buy this and a Z490 board with PCIE4 support, you can upgrade to 11th gen which supports PCIE4 and get both.
Realistically, the impact PCIE4 makes is almost nothing, and it won't be more than a few % for the next few years.
Would have been an interesting proposition but the Z490 is PCIE 3 isn't it? Checked a few mobo models and saw only PCIE 3 slot for GPU slot in the tech specs. Am I missing something?
The PCIe 4.0 restriction is for Intel Comet Lake, not the motherboards. Rocket Lake will support it, and it's expected Z490 motherboards will as well when used with one.
Though it depends on the specific motherboard, I know at least Gigabyte (Aorus) and ASRock have stated their Z490 lines will support 4.0.
@Soothsayer: Came across an article yesterday saying the Z490 "chipset" apparently does not support PCIE 4.0 although the slots,connectors,clocks etc on (some) mobo are PCIE 4.0 ready. Checked the Z490 intel spec sheet and it's only listed as 3.0. What I think this means is that once you pair it with a pcie 4 compliant cpu, the gpu slot(s) and the M.2 socket running off the CPU (whatever is not running off PCH) can be used as pcie 4.0 but not any other slot since they'd be limited by the pcie 3 chipset. Would be good if someone can confirm this though. Still, for the average gamer, I don't think its a show stopper.
Pcie 4 makes no difference for current gpus from either amd or nvidia, only thing that may is storage but I highly doubt a gen3 nvme will be an issue even 4yrs down the track. If you don't need the cores I would suggest a 10600K over this at about 100 cheaper… And with 1200 as guys outline above you have chance to upgrade to 11th gen if needed.
Poor choice going for the 5800x unless you absolutely can't wait for the 5600x stock to come in. The extra cost is disproportionate to the performance gained. The architecture of the CPU cannot leverage the additional cores very well and doesn't provide much of a performance boost over the 5600x for the money.
Would an 8 core 5800x hold out longer than a 6 core 5600x say 3 years later? That's my angle. But yes, bad price point. I'm a bit uncertain if 6 core will be enough long term for gaming at least. People said 4 core was enough 3-4 years ago and 6 is now the sweet spot. So I'm hoping to go wide and not have to do another rebuild 3-4 years later because 6 cores was no longer enough. It's all speculation though since no ones knows whether games will max out 6 cores and need more cores in the near future. Hopefully a 5700x or something (intel 11th gen?) gets announced at CES next week and drives prices down to what it should be.
"The architecture of the CPU cannot leverage the additional cores very well" - mind pointing me to some sources so I can check up on it?
To be honest I can't remember which YouTube video I heard this in.
I believe it is due to the number of chiplets to core ratio.
"For the Ryzen 7 5800X, the chip comes with one CCD with all eight cores enabled, while CPUs with 12 or 16 cores come with two chiplets." -
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-ryzen-7-5800x-zen-3…
So it can't fully leverage all of the cores like the models above it.
It might be worth you watching this also: https://youtu.be/UAPrKImEIVA
@sAmiZZle: Thanks,
"So it can't fully leverage all of the cores like the models above it." - not sure how this conclusion is reached. From what I understand, 1 CCX is better than 2 CCX. Latter was said to increase latency and thus resulted in 5800x performing slightly better fps wise than 5900x in some games.
@S2200: Yeah I think you're right on that one actually. I was just repeating verbatim what a reviewer in a YouTube clip said and I can't for the life of me find the same video again. Quite frustrating he didn't detail why he said that.
I did find this on the topic, "In multithreaded SPECrate, the absolute gain was only around 10% or so, given that faster cores also require more bandwidth to main memory, which hasn’t been provided in this generation. This means that there are some bottlenecks to which a higher IPC won’t help if more cores require the same resources" - https://www.anandtech.com/show/16214/amd-zen-3-ryzen-deep-di…
This one is more than enough for gaming
Dont bother trying to “future proof”, its not possible to do
People were also making the same posts when pcie gen 3 came and it made no difference at all for years
You need to watch some Tech Deals videos on YouTube. He makes a very convincing case that 8 core CPUs are much much better for gaming + other things right now, much less in the future.
Think of it this way - benchmarks are run with a fresh install of windows, with no other programs in the background, and that’s simply not realistic.
In the real world, quality of life with an 8 core is much better. I upgraded from an i7 8700k to an i9 900k and the difference is night and day in term of full PC functionality and daily usage.
6 cores is for budget users, but if you’re serious about using your PC, get at least an 8 core. And 64 GB RAM too. It makes. such. a. big difference.
your argument makes no sense because this i7 is 8 cores
Which cpu would be better as a space heater the 5600X or the 10700KA? I don't care about performance I just want the hottest and most inefficient cpu possible. Also I heard Intel had to backport 10nm architecture to 14nm does that make it a work of art, is there performance benefits that come with that? And does wrapping the cpu in cardboard box with avengers graphics make it go faster?
10nm back port is the 11thgen I believe…10th was always 14nm if I remember right… If you need heater then get a 3090 these CPU's won't help you there …loll
at 65w vs 125w you're getting almost double the room heating capacity with the Intel 10700KA! No brainer!
Also with the Intel running at an impressive 14nm vs AMD's measly 7nm you're getting double the… NMs! Also impressive! Another one in the bag for Team Blue!
/s
10900k + 3090 Is the ultimate Chicken warmer combo
If you've already got a GPU, I'd recommend to go for the i7-10700KF for $467.10 (https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/174358993633) to save a bit more money.
imo iGPU will come in handy here and there, and definitely worth it for $20 extra.
Sure, it's fair for those who prefer having an iGPU as back up. Just another option to save a bit for those already with a dGPU (or if there's a spare GPU with them already).
Bought 10700KA for 465$ from Black friday deals. Overclocked all cores to 5.1Ghz with a Noctua D15 cooler. I love everything about it. Im a Photographer/Filmmaker/Gamer.
It has extra 2 cores and it's cheaper than 5600x.
It has better performance than 5600x in Productivity software(Adobe CC in my case)
It has better performance in gaming After overclocking (5.1Ghz all core is not possible in all CPUs though. Only lucky ones win the silicon lottery)
Of course the power consumption is higher at full load. But it's comparable when idling.
You dont get fancy 7nm or PCIe 4.0 . But I can live with that for another 5 years or so..
It's crazy how cards has turned. Intel is the value option here! At least for now….
That’s only a $4 difference and as far as I can tell from reviews Adobe CC performs better on the 5600X in a bunch of cases. The 10700K does have a 15%~ multi-core advantage though so there is that if you ever have workloads that run at 100% util.
Its still a very good processor, I dunno why some ppl here are obsessed with nanometers, they dont even understand what it means i’m pretty sure lol
I've been trying to find a Ryzen 5600x for weeks now but no luck…. This is very tempting.
Any suggestions on how this woudk compare?
I basically only game on my pc.
I bought it, its a very good cpu at a good price, not the lowest but still a good price none the less and for gaming the i7 is better from the stuff I found from a quick google search.
Hope this helps
Hahaha you didn't Google hard enough my friend. https://www.anandtech.com/bench/CPU-2020/2755
Lol 1080p gaming, are you a pro valorant player or something
@ln28909: As I understand it, anything above 1080p becomes more and more the responsibility of the gfx card so that's why they compare at this resolution as it is indicative of how the CPU performs.
@sAmiZZle: Yes, but it doesn't matter, just like how 3070 performs significantly worse than 2080 ti in synthetic benchmarks, but people put them at the same performance level for daily usage
@ln28909: Do you have any references showing the 2080ti outperforming the 3070? I've heard the contrary.
@sAmiZZle: highest graphics score for a 3070 on Timespy is <16000 (https://www.3dmark.com/spy/16914125)
my graphics score on a 2080 ti on Timespy is >16000 (https://www.3dmark.com/spy/16608386), and I am no where near being in the top 100
Similar result in other benchmark from 3dmark
@ln28909: Very interesting, thanks
This would compare somewhat.
Bought this a couple weeks ago for $520 so this is a good deal. This CPU + 3080 rocking Cyberpunk.
Wondering if it's possible to make a 10700K behave just like a stock 10700, using a B460/H470 board. Pretty much all the info out there is on doing the opposite :)
Could just get a 10700 in the first place for about the same price but figure this one might offer a little more flexibility and higher resale value.
You can just underclock it by 100mhz and lower voltage
It says S1200 socket. Is it the same like LGA 1200?
Unfortunately the AMD 5600X is twice the speed of a 4.8Ghz i7 9700k (what I currently have) in some tasks.
Is it just the avengers box? Or are they binned as better overclockers like some of the other special offerings?