6800 is now back in stock at the WA Warehouse. If you're after this card, get in before they're gone.
If you're in a toss up between the 3070/3080/6800 I've attached some reviews I've found good to help you make your decision between time/performance/availability:
https://www.kotaku.com.au/2020/11/amd-radeon-rx-6800-review-…
https://www.techspot.com/review/2174-geforce-rtx-3070-vs-rad…
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To get this card at MSRP is definitely worth it (in the current crappy market atm)
There's no urgency really when a used 1080Ti can be had for $500 or less, and could be resold later.
But ray tracing!
Well sure, no denying a used 1080 Ti is a good gaming card for the performance for the $ standpoint.
But bear in mind you are comparing a second hand card of potentially unknown age and condition, from an older generation of cards, to a brand new recently released card with full warranty and gaming performance + performance/watt that is better than the 2080 Ti let alone 1080 Ti.
Seems like a strange comparison, by that token you could argue a $120 second hand GTX 970 is a better buy than most any brand new GPU around! Again you'd be right by performance/$, but that's not really the whole story to every buyer.
you raise valid points. I just mentioned the above as many complain of shortages, and this option could be a temporary substitute, not the bees knees in specs.
thanks op! just bought one, love the reference design
Yeah they should be the same
Could you do us a favour and tell us what year you bought that 7970?
i have an xfx 5700xt and I only ever hear my cpu fan :/
Yeah 2013, i dont get why its a big deal, its not like xfx have had much shelf space over the past few years so Im literally just asking a question.
I really don't get it why you getting negged for asking question, it seems some people here are pissed to hear a brand name in a question….
i have watched many reviews that the reference 6800 and 6800 xt are pretty quiet, quieter than the 3080 founder edition
Lmao i just asked a question.
You guess nothing has changed for 5 generations?
im guessing this is no different from all the other reference 6800's in terms of loudness?
I guess its easy to misread what i wrote
dont forget the 1.12 % cashback from cashrewards, mine tracked instantly pay via paypal , save another $10.63 AUD
Damn I didn’t wait.. literally thought I would never see one available
Bought a 3080 and 3070 for my machines.
The extra memory is nice from team red, the reviews look good.
You'll get better performance with a 3080 team red haven't matched Ray tracing or DLSS yet and real performance 3080/70 wins still. But amd are getting there
I literally want to support AMD…
I was waiting for Big Navi…. but between the stock being too hard to obtain and anything above the 6800 being 2.5 slots (I love ITX builds), it’s just too hard.
My 5700XT was a great card and represented phenomenal value…
price-wise some people like myself might be arguably justified in being just a little disappointed they aren’t “sticking it to Nvidia” the way we hoped.
I think they expected that too, but Nvidia got wind of the performance and cranked up the dial on their offering
So we have AMD to thank for pushing things forward !
It is a shame though that Nvidia is still overall better, but there's very little in it
@badonde: I think Nvidia will hold the lead for most of 2021 but when drivers mature a bit and we will start to see games behaving better with the AMD cards the fact AMD got Big Navi architecture in both the new consoles can only be good.
Saying all that I haven't bothered upgrading my monitor to 4k yet so going to run my 5700xt for at least another year before i bother looking at a GPU upgrade.
Exciting time in tech though with new consoles and new GPU with extremely low availability hopefully the world catches up with covid and we can see some more standardized pricing by mid 2021.
Pulled the trigger, first big upgrade on the gaming PC in 5+ years
Oof
Sexy
I'm so damn excited :)
I hope AMD drivers are much better now
Been very good so far. They just need to hurry up and have their DLSS competitor out already.
Not for me, I was crashing every 10 minutes at best.
Tried everything, in the end installing the driver only without the adrenaline software fixed it.
Happy with it so far, although it makes sense to spend the extra $100 for the XT model, if you're prepared to wait…
Damn that sucks. At least it wasn't an RDNA 1 repeat or even the 3080 power problem. I have mine in a 6 litre case with 600w flex psu and had no problems. 6800xt was too big for my case unfortunately, not that I would be able to get one anyway.
I had experienced something similar. Turns out for me that it was an IO issue. For some reason, there was an incompatibility with the asmedia SATA controller that ASRock had fitted to the motherboard for the extra data ports. Unplugging the DVD drive I had connected to one of these sata ports fixed it so that I could get past the initial hardware scan when installing the adrenaline drivers. Sounds stupid but it happened, apparently it's happened to a few people on Asus and ASRock motherboards.
Any chance that you are running aorus/gigabyte B550 board? My RTX 3070 used to crash like this and it drove me nuts. Aorus/gigabyte had unstable USB hub controller firmware and crashes happened because of this. They released bios update on 19th this month which fixed the issue
If you want all features (possibly for FidelityFX) out of card you'll need a 5 series motherboard with a 5000 series CPU happy to be corrected if wrong but this is what I've heard?
@[Deactivated]: Nah, don't need 5 series motherboard and 5000 series cpu for fidelityfx. Just need a Radeon 5000 or 6000 series GPU for all the features.
Originally you needed 5000 series CPU with 5 series motherboard and 6000 series GPU for smart access memory, but people have been able to get this to work for Intel CPUs as well.
I've got the exact same card and the drivers work beautifully.
Personally havent had any major issues in the past 2 years.
Following the 6800 launch though i have seen an increased number of problematic reports in the last 2 weeks on amd's reddit.
I know people had issues with RX5000 drivers, but even my RX570 drivers where a minefield, every second one tanked my performance and I'd have to have a safety patch to fall back on to.
With the Nvidia AUD pricing I might have to give AMD another try again, but I am a little worried.
Personal experience, I once owned a brand new Sapphire RX470 8G back in 2017 or 2018 ish, have had no problem with all random driver I have updated, until I started to play PUBG and upgraded to a GTX1070 and sold that RX470… Around beginning of 2019 while the downfall of crypto mining, I bought a ex-mining card from taobao China which looks like it was heavily battle scarred for $80, I cleaned the card thoroughly, and slap it in my 2nd PC with full of 2nd hand crap( 3770k,z77, 32G RAM), all random driver I updated has got no problem at all (my friend visited me at my house and he played CoD on that rx470 with me for days no issue).
However I have had plenty of issue with 5600XT, 5700 etc (different card in different build that I end up helping to diagnostic), most being gigabyte models, they seems to randomly crash without being stressed, sometime from cold boot and sometime otherwise. They all end up credited by manufacturer after sending them back.
Now I luckily got my hand on a Reference 6800xt, I've played it for like a week now, only games I played is Minecraft and Call of Duty WarZone, not a single crash, it's been very smooth so far. (also it heated less than a RTX2080ti, played on 2080ti feels like turning on a space heater)
My personal conclusion is the old GCN cards are polished enough except they don't have leading edge performance, RDNA 1 has been a super bumpy road until all those vBIOS update rollout after months, but RDNA2 has been polished nicely like what they done with GCN.
Damn, waiting for 1049$ for the 6800 XT.
Will there be a second batch?
there were a few at mwave yesterday, i managed to place an order but got cancelled :/
Mwave stock is a joke, i placed an order for a 3080 last week it said in stock then they cancelled my order today as well said inability to fullfill order lol
@ozvictor: Never bothered to look through Mwave for GPU's, ever since they rigged the RTX 3080 FE raffle and sold them on eBay for $2750 instead:
https://i.imgur.com/Hf10TuK.png
https://i.imgur.com/5hYiPIH.png
They never released the number of stock either. Probably got scared of having discrepancies with NVIDIA.
They are pretty much the last place you want to be looking for cards at RRP or below.
@Outsider: Wow, that's pretty crazy.
There's no way someone could have won 10 + of them!
But it doesn't mean it was Mwave selling them, they could have secured a supply from US as a distributor (anyone with a shop i guess) and sold it?
@badonde: Too many things add up for me.
But everyone is always free to have their own interpretation!
Nope this was pretty much confirmed by PCCG too.
The only stocks that showed up were leftovers from first batch.
So whatever that was sold / is being sold in the market is all the reference there is in Oz.
AMD is still producing them but will be selling them via their US site which means none for us.
The only thing that will be restocked are basically partner cards
Not an amazing deal when the reference 6800XT's can be nabbed for $1049 plus post if you are quick enough when they restock.
Umart had some just the other day.
Most powerful 2 slot card on the market but if size isn't a problem then i agree the xt is definitely the better buy.
yea 6800 xt is the value king if you can buy it at MSRP. but if you only game at 2k then 6800 is more than enough. go for 6800 xt if you do 4k gaming though. but i buy it because i am sick of waiting and i only game at 2k. I think its overall better buy than the 3070 because you get double the vram for pretty much the same price, even more ram than the 3080
Performance per watt is unbeatable, also 2 slot is perfect for sffpc
This doesn't have Ray tracing, right? I think the 6800XT is the way to go.
it does, if you game at 1080p then you can turn on ray tracing with a smooth experience but maybe not 2k
They do support ray tracing but they are not as efficient in their implementation of it in games as Nvidia. In saying that, there is the possibility if games are modelled around the AMD implementation they could maybe see less of a performance hit in the future.
The supplied Kotaku article mentions AMD suffering from raytracing, but if your games don’t support it (or you dont particularly care), then the 6800 performs very much like the Nvidia 3080.
Nowhere near as mature as the Nvidia implementation.
Bought this the last time it was in stock at Heatherton. Absolutely buzzed with the overall performance at 1440p. Definitely a better buy than any 3070 at this price IMO.
In rtx games? Dlss?
Should I sell my 3070 ffrom DELL XPS model and get this one?
No…
why not?
Just 11% better performance vs. 3070 (G6) across 40 games in average at 1440P (Hardware Unboxed). I don't know if you use RTX/DLSS, but AMD is a generation behind in RTX and we don't know when the promised AMD's flavor of DLSS will be a thing.
If you really wanna upgrade… go 6800XT reference model (+$100 more than this when it's in stock) instead or 3070Ti w/ 10GB G6X (basically a 3080) when it eventually releases.
Godamned fomo got me again. While happy with my 3070 I would have preferred this, but didn't expect to see availablity before late Jan, particularly a 2 slot card.
Have fun with the cards, those of you that pick this up. 👍
"Screw all those who have have one, will get one and especially those who sell it on for $500 more. You lucky bastards 👍"
Fixed it for you 😊
Lol no it's genuine, but I get the sentiment. 🤣
From a neutral standpoint, NVIDIA are still winning software wise with DLSS and although just a gimmick for many people, personally the RTX voice is a really interesting feature as well.
Hardware wise there's no question with regards to pure cost/performance. AMD is the clear winner. Especially with that 16GB VRAM, making it more future proof than the RTX 3080.
If AMD can prove that they have answers to NVIDIA's software, I am more than willing to pull the trigger on a 6800XT. Currently torn between the two.
You forgot NVIDIA is ahead with ray tracing.
Cheers! Definitely an important one AMD? Game developers? have to work on.
thats what he meant. software wise.
Ray tracing is already supported by AMD, but it got poor performance. I don’t think they can improve it with a driver update.
DDR6X which Nvidia has installed on the 3080 and 3090 is effectively twice the performance of DDR6 utilized by AMD.
I'll let you do the maths on your future proofing statement.
Dont get me wrong its still a fantastic bang for buck card, and I was keen to go a full team red build for the first time until the abysmal stock levels eventuated.
Thanks for the info! Would you happen to have any resources I could look at to see how bad the DDR6 bottle neck is?
Edit: Thanks for the pointers! I'll have a look at these two videos!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efDxvq_M-aI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AmNL2Cg2OO8
Nothing will be bottlenecking either, on the 3080 it's 10GB of GDDR6X gives it 760Gb/s of bandwidth on its memory. AMD will not see any bottlenecking either at it's 512 Gb/s using DDR6. It's people being aware of the factual differences between DDR6 v DDR6x that is the stumbling point
@Jonahtech: Your input is much appreciated! Didn't know I was missing out on such vital info!
I guess I'll just have to pray that the 3080 Ti isn't going to be as ridiculously priced as everyone is suggesting it to be… AUD is stronker now, plz NVIDIA…
@Outsider: unfortunately 3080 ti will be at least $2000 in MSRP. just slightly cheaper than the 3090 i guess. just look at the price of 2080 ti when it was launched
I disagree on AMD being the clear winner. As AMD have lost their sense with current prices of AIB cards.
Um sorry what amd is winning in price to performance, are you sure about that?
I understand that within the context of the current situation this could be seen as a bargain, but all it really is, is a card priced only slightly ABOVE msrp and in stock, and even that didn't last.
There are other venues on the internet that do things like stock alerts and price alerts, this on the other hand is a website about bargains… separation of concerns people!
LMAO PLE. Good luck getting your product with them after several months
I recently order during their boxing sales ( a m.2) and it's currently in transit. So far my experience is possitive. Your point is still still very valid however.
Ordered 6800 mid Dec
Arrived today.
Kinda good considering Xmas stuffs things up.
Good price, good communication.
nvenc > AMD.
"800 is now back in stock at the WA Warehouse."
I didn't even know this card was out until this post lol.
Does anyone know how this works for VIC customers?
I managed to order the 6800XT version last week but my status is in awaiting processing since.
No delivery nor ETA, really hard to tell if they even allocated stock to my order or just holding onto my money until they get something in.
was it showing in stock when you placed your order for the 6800 xt? I also in VIC and placed this order, at the time of my order it said ETA 31/12/2020. So hopefully they will send mine soon..
According to their launch queue, they have allocated all stock for this year. If you don't have an ETA next to your order, then you have to wait until late next week to see if you've been allocated anything from their next shipment. I'm in the same boat as you
missed out
Itll comeback, this was in stock from around 2pm yesterday, and took forever to sell out
Was confirmed to be the last remaining stocks of the reference card. The only one that will be restocked are AIB cards. These XFX cards are the first batch that came late / got cancelled.
AMD is producing more but was told it's not going to be sold to resellers but directly from their US site which means non for us in Aus.
ah okay, I see
Who said this? Thanks for sharing
Correct, because the margin of reference card is too slim, the chips will be allocated to make AIB cards with higher margin.
just called the PLE VIC office, they said shipping is coming from WA and will arrive on next Thursday. My allocation is there :)
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