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Not the cheapest but it's a good price for a USG.
Ubiquiti UniFi Security Gateway Router USG $169 Delivered @ Amazon
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I think for 90c extra it's worth buying direct from Amazon AU.
Reason?
Faster delivery.
Amazon AU:
Arrives: Friday, 13 Nov
Fastest delivery: Thursday, 12 NovHarris Tech:
Arrives: 17 - 23 Nov
Fastest delivery: 16 - 18 Novbetter customer service/return/refunds.
@MorriJ: Prime-Wireless have a 94% rating over the last 12 months.
I'd rather pay 51c more and get it direct from Amazon AU.
@[Deactivated]: But why? If it is shipped by Prime, Amazon handle the shipping, sales support and returns.
Not the cheapest.
Not the cheapest.
I know it's not the cheapest. That's literally the first three words of this deal post.
@[Deactivated]: And that's my justification for the neg, doesn't matter if you put it in the first three words of the post, it's simply not the cheapest.
and arrives the same day - 51c cheaper.
Amazon AU:
Arrives: Friday, 13 Nov
Fastest delivery: Thursday, 12 NovPrime-Wireless
Arrives: 13 - 19 Nov
Fastest delivery: Monday, 16 NovIt's faster direct from Amazon AU.
@[Deactivated]: Prime-Wireless. It delivers via Amazon prime on Thursday to me if i order today. Same return rights and as its Prime Delivbered, I get to speak to Amazon Customer service for all returns / deliveries issues.
Your delivery dates are all messed up, I presume you are on the West Coast or the NT?
@[Deactivated]: You just posted above that it would arrive Friday through next Thursday.
Prime-Wireless
Arrives: 13 - 19 NovIt doesn't matter, it's not the cheapest and its coming from the same place, perhaps a day later, terrible deal.
Rock solid piece of equipment. Been running this thing for 3 years and never skip a beat.
Are there any benefits of this particular device as compared to an OpenWRT router for someone who is clued with Linux and networking?
Not too sure but I think if you do put together a bespoke router, the time and material of putting the components together and then configuring it is not going to be $168?
Fair enough. If you have the means of turning spare time into money then the opportunity cost is certainly a decisive factor.
My question was more along the lines of whether this device gives you access to something like a curated and constantly updated list of threat signatures that the router uses together with an IDS/IPS.
But, I guess at that price point that is highly unlikely.
@peteru: It has options for both IPS/IDS and also geo blocking but you can’t use them together as IDS/IPS disables hardware offload which is what GB uses.
This thing is also getting old and the specs aren’t great so using IDS/IPS will throttle bandwidth to about 85Mbps.
It also requires a the controller software installed on a PC or a cloud key to work, and some of the options are limited in the GUI where you have to Ssh into it to make changes. Ubiquiti has released a new product to replace the USG Pro but nothing for this which is disappointing.I’ve been thinking about moving to pfSense or Sophos on an old PC with a 4 port NIC and this is what I would recommend if you know a bit about networks.
@Roger Ramjet: I scored an old i3 and put in an i340 t4 card and made it a pfsense box best little project ive ever done over store bought networking products.
In general, no IMO. I use pfSense and find it to be much, much more flexible than a USG. I love Ubiquiti WAPs, but their routing I find to be really limited. You can definitely do a lot, but you have to hack the config files. If you're going to do that, you might as well run pfSense or OpenWRT.
The USG has its place. It's a good router for $170 that's pretty easy to use and set up. Many consumer grade all-in-ones are already more than $300, so around $450 for a USG + Ubiquiti Switch + AC-Lite AP is actually really affordable and easy to set up and use.
OPNsense is better version of pfSense.
The biggest disadvantage of Unifi equipment is that it requires either the Unifi Cloud Key or a server running the Controller software.
While this may be true for most of their products, the UniFi Dream Machine comes with the controller pre-installed.
You can run it on a raspberry pi, with pihole to give you network wide ad blocking.
This isn't a disadvantage - the more separation you have in your networking kit, the easier it is to upgrade or replace just that one part when you need to. Just include the Cloud Key in the purchase price if you need the always-on controller - note that it works just fine on any desktop or laptop, it doesn't need to be "always on" unless you're using the guest WiFi portal…
Not the cheapest but it's a good price for a USG.
Not as good as the $160 it's been for the last 2 weeks or so… Looks like you missed it by a day or two.
Any reason why I’d use this over a standard router ??
If you have to ask, then you don't need/want it. Not being elitist, just that unless you have identified some problem with your stuff or maybe want to learn networking, there's no real benefit.
If you have wireless issues, try getting a Ubiquiti AP as a first step. Unless you have a huge amount of ttaffic, you're not going to easily saturate a good consumer router.
Been a long time since the last AP deal!
Worth the extra dollars if you have other Unifi gear and want the single configuration interface. Otherwise, the Edgerouter X is faster, has more ports, supports OpenWRT and costs half the price…
There are [only] two real advantages of the USG [over the Edgerouter X] that only work if you have an internet connection with a speed below the 100Mbit/s. Intrusion Prevention System (IPS) and site-to-site VPN. …
Have used the USG for awhile, just be aware if you are on a 100mbit connection and want to enable IDS/IPS it will struggle.
Any recommendations for a router with good vpn, vlan, ids/ips? Is edgerouter x, pfsense or something else the most cost effective way to go?
I am looking for something with same functionality. I am looking for something that support openvpn and wireguard. And has couple of 10g port for Nas and esx environment.
I did not had much luck. But did find something interesting which will tick most boxes but I have not hear of this company before so can't provide any additional information.
HI folks, I've been trying the Google Nest Mesh wifi at home and it has constant disconnections. My modem doesn't have a bridge mode, which seems to be one solution, and plenty of folks online have had similar frustration (the Google Support folks just post generic solutions that simply make no difference). I will be trying Amazon's Eero but from what I have read online, they ahve similar temperaments eg problems with using the smart features, if you have fixed IP devices (like a NAS).
So I'm considering a Ubiquiti WAP soon. For a three bedroom apartment in Bondi Junction (in a tower with a lot of wifi networks around), a decent amount of concrete and masonry walls, which model WAP would you recommend? Are these pretty much bulletproof vs mesh networks?
Definitely try the Ubiquiti access points, they are much more powerful than usual consumer networking gear.
I would recommend purchasing one Ubiquiti AC Pro and setting it up in the most central area and test. For an apartment, this should be more than enough, but I dont know about how your apartment is laid out and whether or not the concentration of wifi signals will affect your signal quality.
If I were in your shoes i would definitely start with an AC Pro and see how we go from there.
I got the AC LR a while ago and it's brilliant tbh. But I also run a raspberry Pi, with the controller locally for it.
You can now set them up over a mobile app as well
This is a pretty old piece of kit these days. You would be better to spend some more and get a UDM etc.
The USG-3 is most likely close to 5 years old at this point and may be end of life'd… which you can't blame them for doing with its age. You are better to get a UDM which gives you a USG, 4 Port switch (non-POE), AP & Cloud key.
Yeah definitely get a UDM over this. I'm guessing if you're getting into this midrange networking gear world, a few hundred extra isn't going to matter much
Assume UDM is the Dream Machine. Should I worry their Wifi6 stuff hasn't hit Australia yet?
UDM will give you more but also cost 3x more and doesn't support 802.11ax yet so I'm thinking of getting one of this to replace my Ubuntu firewall and upgrade later to a UDM with support for WiFi 6.
UDM is a different sort of device IMO. It's basically an AIO router/switch/WAP unit that's a good replacement for your standard cheap unit that your ISP provides. It's not ideal for much more than that.
If you want to connect more than 4 devices by ethernet, you'll have to end up getting a switch anyway, if you have a big house/multiple storeys, you'll probably have to pick up another WAP…etc. It's just a different class of product for a completely different user IMO.
The beauty of the traditional UniFi system is modularity - you can get a USG for ~$160, then add a 8/16/24/48 port switch as you require, then you can add whatever WAPs you want and the number of WAPs you want…etc.
I started off with a Unifi Wi-Fi access point and it made a huge difference to the Wi-Fi in my home, so I slowly replaced our network with Ubiquiti gear. I've got a USG, 2 x Wi-Fi access points, 1 controller and 2 switches. It's been excellent.
This vs a cheaper edgerouter, but i currently use pfsense
Hot tip - use an ethernet surge protector if you use an NBN NTD.
Smoking hot tip?
How does that make sense? If you have an NBN NTD, you're on FTTP, which means the connection from the outside is a fibre optic cable which is non-conductive? (Not trying to challenge you, BTW, just curious what's the issue).
Unless you're on HFC, and a recent storm caused a surge on it to travel up through it into your USG and switches!
Can confirm this is needed. A year ago a storm surge blew up one of the ports, so I switched it to use the secondary port. Today that died, so I find myself ordering this (next day delivery). Also now need to buy an ethernet surge protector
@SingletonOfT: I have an ethernet surge protector in my UPS, but decided against using it. Would rather replace a $20 Unifi surge protector if the need arises again (hopefully not, only had it once in over 35 years of computing!).
$168.10 with prime shipping from Harris Tech