Good Easy Cushy Job That Pays over 85k No Degree No Qualification Just Get in The Door Type Deal

AlienC on 22/10/2020 - 11:20

So working life is going great but I always want more so I'm here to ask for advice on any jobs that don't require any degree or qualifications that I can maybe get into that pays more than 85k.. Not even making half that now..

Bonus points if the work is pretty lax labour wise but honestly I'm open to anything (no funny answers) huuurr durrr no drug dealer, hand jobs or other stupid answers for jobs.

I was thinking of getting into mining but I think all those jobs are high skill jobs and I can't drive continuously for too long at least right now because of health fatigue reasons but that will clear up once I put my health in the right direction and stop abusing and over exerting my body for no reason.

So anybody want to chime in with what they do and if it's easy to get into and does not require any barriers to entry like a degree or qualification.. I'm fine with doing short courses maybe if the payout is great but I'm not going back to uni again for 3 - 5 years if the prospects are shaky.

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                • spiff on 23/10/2020 - 14:47

                  @onetwothreefour: Love the sarcasm!

                • ozbjunkie on 26/10/2020 - 20:29

                  @onetwothreefour: If you are white, especially if you are also straight and male, it's supposed to be a given that you are doing something wrong. At least that's what a disturbing number of news articles seem to suggest whenever I forget to tune out.

        • parisienne on 22/10/2020 - 21:24
          -1

          Ummmm,YES.

        • OBEY YOUR MASTERS on 23/10/2020 - 08:10
          +3

          No it just makes you kinda sad.

        • capslock janitor on 24/10/2020 - 15:14

          hey thought he was white too :o

        • aboogee on 26/10/2020 - 14:26

          lol

          im asian but have encountered many asians with such work ethics though…
          sadly, these people make more $$$ (alot of them >100k) than the normal average hardworking people that i know
          you might think 100k is nothing, but imagine coming to work at 11am, taking 1hr break, and leaving at 3pm or hiding in a room with doors shut so that no one know if you are in your room (obviously not) and only show face when you have no choice - these are your normal 9-5 jobs by the way…

          then in my work place, many white people working till 10pm or later, just to secure next promotion
          they get paid very well though…

        • Scythic on 27/10/2020 - 09:17
          +1

          You're alright. I thought this guy was white too and I'm an Asian. 🙃

      • Baysew on 22/10/2020 - 21:58
        +11

        I can only think of one Asian Australian politician

        Don't worry, there is a list.

        Category:Australian politicians of Asian descent

      • burningrage on 23/10/2020 - 13:49

        So wrong.

        Ex-Senator Tsebin Chen
        Senator Penny Wong
        MP Gladys Liu

      • gromit on 23/10/2020 - 16:55
        +1

        There are plenty of Asian/gay/minority group pollies. It is a job that doesn't tend to discriminate much as most voters vote on party lines rather than any other attributes. If you were trying to get elected as an independent then your individual attributes may come into play.

        • AustriaBargain on 27/10/2020 - 02:15

          The lack of discrimination in politics probably varies by electorate.

          • gromit on 27/10/2020 - 08:11

            @AustriaBargain: yes, but as long as you are on a party ticket any personal attributes run a distant second. The majority would not have a clue who their local member is or what they look like and nor do they take note when voting.

      • berry580 on 24/10/2020 - 09:15

        Asian pollies is definitely a minority in Australia.
        But they exist, otherwise who is Penny Wong?
        Being a politician is no simple work, so you can probably forget about it.

        • Orico on 27/10/2020 - 09:32

          Asians disown her because she's a lesbo

          • xzybargain on 29/10/2020 - 06:59
            +1

            @Orico: I’m a straight asian male and I disagree with this comment, I think she is a good politician, a rare one (Not many good one) but a good one.

      • stwongy on 25/10/2020 - 03:07

        I mean, what AlienC said is true…I don't know why he got so many downvotes for saying that.

      • PleasureMe on 28/10/2020 - 22:53

        There are heaps of Asian politicians. You have no idea!

    • Levathian on 23/10/2020 - 22:41

      Even better become a federal senator. One election every six years and as long as you are high enough on the major party ticket, you're almost guaranteed the job for life (or until the party tells you to piss off). It's a rort imo.

    • AustriaBargain on 27/10/2020 - 02:14
      +1

      And spend all your time hob-knobbing and doing favours for the police chief, police minister, speaker of the house, minister against corruption. When your day of reckoning comes for all the bribes and stuff you took, or whatever else you secretly had going on, your network will make sure that day of reckoning never comes. What cop in their right mind would investigate the best friend of his boss's boss.

  • JPLengineer on 22/10/2020 - 11:31
    +5

    How about advancing your current qualification? You mentioned you have already been to university? Would a Master's degree by course work (12months) or research (18months) be a good choice for you?
    There are also Masters degrees that you can do as long as you have any Bachelor degree, I thihk Business Admin and Accounting are some of them.

    • AlienC on 22/10/2020 - 11:56

      It's half complete at best and probably outdated by now this was like 2009-2012 with a lot of fails and dropped courses.

      And coding in Java and looking at VMs with no purpose was very soul crushing.

      Now that I know that there is big money and I could be potentially sitting at a desk all the time I kind of regret it and am rethinking it but I look at lots of levels of code sometimes for games and scripts and add-ons and what not and honestly sometimes I have no idea what is going on its like trying to read hieroglyphics sometimes can be fun or can be just plain dumb.

      And with the masters degree what actual jobs come out of that it always sounds like getting an art degree.. You just do it because you love it not because there are any jobs in the field which I assumed there is not.

      • POSITIVEVIBESONLY on 22/10/2020 - 17:22
        +1

        I think you pretty accurately described software development, might want to try finish off your degree in computer science. If you know what you're doing you can just sit around and type few lines of code a day and get 100k+ in the right companies. A lot of tech companies are super relaxed about work too.

      • [Deactivated] on 23/10/2020 - 11:36
        +3

        How much more soul crushing is an entry level coder job than working for minimum wage as a non qualified no hoper?

      • murkywater on 23/10/2020 - 12:05
        -3

        Look into jobs such as "Site Reliability Engineer" and "Devops", they require less coding than software development, but you're expected to know Linux and Public cloud (AWS/Azure). 6 figures pay.

        I also recommend finishing off that CS degree.

        • johnno07 on 24/10/2020 - 14:06
          +13

          Can we not recommend this guy come into tech? No-hoper devs who don't want to learn how to be better are exceedingly frustrating - not to mention a liability.

          • ThadtheChad on 27/10/2020 - 22:42
            +1

            @johnno07: +100 Esp for stuff that requires mission critical stuff.

            Pardon me for judging a book by it's cover, but in OP I see an incredibly lethargic, unmotivated person who really CBF'd doing much.

            Most of the good devops I know are highly motivated and put in a ton of effort to stay up to date and on the bleeding edge. OP's posts here do not inspire confidence that they'd flourish in the field.

        • DJR9000 on 25/10/2020 - 16:08
          +5

          SRE and devops might not need that much coding but they need a lot of experience to be good. Complex systems, event processing and scripting, CI/CD buildchains, kubernetes and docker, test automation, environment management, the list goes on.

          otherwise they just end up being guys who wouldn't know an answer unless the exact problem was on stack overflow

      • abb on 23/10/2020 - 14:04
        +1

        sometimes I have no idea what is going on its like trying to read hieroglyphics

        So sometimes you do have an idea?

        You're doing better than me, and I get paid to code.

      • unswgeek on 24/10/2020 - 21:20

        Sorry you have missed such good opportunity in Uni. I am Asian and was in uni 2009-2012 doing computer science degree as well. I graduated with Distinction and High Distinction from Uni, and now m on $180k salary leading a department.

        It is not too late to pick up coding and finish degree.

      • sarahlump on 25/10/2020 - 20:43

        sounds like you should see a medical dr, a therapist,and a physio. Failing a comp sci degree is pretty hard, its one of the easiest degrees at uni. That being said education isn't easy for everyone.

  • mbck on 22/10/2020 - 11:34
    +18

    You don't need work. You just need one lucky break. Just one good deal and you'll be fine.

    All in on black

    mbck on 22/10/2020 - 11:34 (Collapsed - Offtopic. Show)
    • Flowerbomb on 22/10/2020 - 11:51

      Or betting all in the stock market when there's a crash. I.e. Afterpay

      • AustriaBargain on 26/10/2020 - 02:40

        No way, Afterpay and Zip are here to stay. It's the new normal and their value can only go up because it hasn't been close to realised yet. Letting people spread out payments for any product over two months is genius and it's too late for the banks to just copycat them now. You'll see, all the banks will come up with their own low credit versions of Afterpay, but they will never catch on.

      • hopper on 26/10/2020 - 06:14

        Plz don't remind me that, i was contemplating to buy on the crash week since I was not having job. Now with job I regret for not buying it every hour

    • AlienC on 22/10/2020 - 11:53
      +1

      I'm a safe kinda guy $1 on red $1 on black.. Nobody wins nobody loses.

      • popsiee on 22/10/2020 - 11:57
        +22

        Didn’t you know the casino wins just over 3% on the green .

        • AlienC on 22/10/2020 - 12:10
          -5

          What's the green

          • AdosHouse on 22/10/2020 - 12:12
            +3

            @AlienC: 0 and 00 on the wheel.

            • AlienC on 22/10/2020 - 12:19
              -3

              @AdosHouse: I thought it started at 1

              • jellykingdom on 22/10/2020 - 13:00
                +37

                @AlienC: Sigh

              • AdosHouse on 22/10/2020 - 13:19
                +2

                @AlienC: No it has 0 and 00. The casino would never give you 2/1 odds on a 1/2 chance. There is no margin for them there.

              • [Deactivated] on 23/10/2020 - 11:37
                +13

                @AlienC: You ever think that it's this kind of thinking that has led you to the situation you are in today?

      • avidd on 25/10/2020 - 21:53

        Unfortunately that's not how roulette works… red/black each have only approx 47-48% of winning (because of the zero/double zero).

        Even safe bets aren't always that safe.

  • mskeggs on 22/10/2020 - 11:36
    +10

    If you have the right demeanour and enthusiasm, you could get into sales.
    It can be an intense job, but not physically demanding, and it’s fairly common for people with no formal qualifications to earn good money.

    It’s not something a lot of people will consider, which is one reason it pays well.

    • AlienC on 22/10/2020 - 11:52
      +1

      I am actually considering this as I am a pretty easy going easy to talk to guy.. It's not too outer space just have to make sure I'm not being a dick or too casual and not channelling car salesman vibes from movies which is hard when you think that's how real life should be doing.

      But yeah sales is on the list as one of my potential options.

      Definitely not physically intensive unless you need to seal the deal if you know that I'm saying.

      • DemocracyManifest on 23/10/2020 - 13:15
        +1

        Become a ‘area manager’ at the coles group, $80k+ then bonuses plus to do (profanity) all and then jump some where else for higher pay with the experience. Walk around and criticise employees, threaten people with their jobs if they don’t cut hours, point at infrastructure problems which aren’t your problem, hell you can barely fire people without running it past HR properly first. Have affairs on the job, don’t even attend work.

        • capslock janitor on 24/10/2020 - 15:19
          -1

          Definitely not physically intensive unless you need to seal the deal if you know that I'm saying.

          Tell me plz …

        • Baghern on 25/10/2020 - 13:31

          no way 80k… is way too less to deal with people..

          I would expect a store manager to have at least $100k

          • DemocracyManifest on 25/10/2020 - 14:48

            @Baghern: Na haha pay peanuts get monkeys

            • Soluble on 26/10/2020 - 13:24

              @DemocracyManifest: I'm yet to meet a Coles store manager not on over 100k? (Was with the group for a long time) I left on over 80k managing a Coles group liquor store.

              Area managers start on well over $100k.

      • Neoika on 23/10/2020 - 22:10
        +1

        A realtor.

    • Baghern on 25/10/2020 - 13:29
      +1

      I work with sales people… most are absolute dumbass's because they know how to fake it.

      There are some genuine good ones, but a lot of duds… who are able to get away with it, because sales people are hard to replace.

      Sales has lots of down time, which is why it attract so many dumbass's,

      • jenkemjunkie on 26/10/2020 - 08:55
        +3

        most are absolute dumbass’s

        It’s dumbasses…who’s the dumbass now?

    • Andard on 27/10/2020 - 13:36
      +1

      Sales is soul-draining

  • adgnetworks on 22/10/2020 - 11:37
    +5

    Mine is pretty cushy and i've got no degree or professional qualification and make 3 times your target.

    I.T can be fairly lucrative.

    • AlienC on 22/10/2020 - 11:50

      I keep hearing this and I'm constantly at par or helping many friends and family with it problems honestly this might be where I end up going.

      • Intoxicoligist on 24/10/2020 - 20:14
        +1

        Level 1 helpdesk at a Managed Service Provider providing support to mines will come close, although getting onsite will pay far more.

        If you can turn a computer on and off, follow simple instructions, and have more than 2 neurons to rub together you'll get hired.

        • AlienC on 01/11/2020 - 18:09

          Interesting where do I sign up?

    • jetblack on 23/10/2020 - 08:23
      +2

      How'd you get into this? I was considering an IT move, but it seems all entry level help desk roles require a cert IV in information technology at a minimum.

      • annyfication on 23/10/2020 - 09:16
        +6

        I'm in IT, and you gotta find something niche so you're not easily replaceable. When people think IT, people only think of being a developer and just know how to code. You might be in support or implementation for these software companies.

        For example, if you're trained as a radiologist, you can go into healthcare IT, if you're an engineer, there's going to be engineering software. There's an IT side to every profession, and that's how I snuck in.

        Good luck!

    • dust on 23/10/2020 - 09:52
      +7

      You make ~$250k a year in IT? Must be in some kind of senior management role? What was your career progression like?

      • macrocephalic on 23/10/2020 - 10:38
        +14

        Yes, people often say that IT is really high paying, but you only have to look through the available jobs on Seek/LinkedIn to see how many of them actually pay really well (hint: it's not many).

        • od810 on 23/10/2020 - 23:00
          +3

          I would say if you don't want to be a manager, IT (read software engineering, cloud automation, cyber security not IT helpdesk) is the one of the highest paying professions. I know for fact that individual contributor in Software Development, Cloud Automation can get up to 160-180K/year, average a Senior role would get 120k-150k and it can be achieved within 5-7 years out of Uni. If you want more, you can be contractor and get paid $800-$1000/day.

          We have 6 opening positions during Covid time and it's very hard to fill.

          • Intoxicoligist on 24/10/2020 - 20:21
            +2

            @od810: I think the main thing with high level IT jobs is that you have to be willing to constantly learn new things. I do Sysadmin work for 100k and my next step is to solidify my cloud knowledge and begin to learn DevOps as that's where you get the 150-200k jobs within my area of expertise.

            Its taken me almost 8 years of full time work, plus a 3 year degree to get to this point, and I've been in this job almost a year.

            My dream is to be able to get a sysadmin role that's 100% remote, and travel the world while working from a laptop and a wifi connection. It used to be almost impossible but Covid has proven that the job can be done remotely without issue. Now to convince the business there's value to it.

            The other option would be to go back to MSP work and do System Architecture for projects and make ~130-150k, but I'm not quite sure I'm ready to go back to that level of masochism again.

          • refizen on 24/10/2020 - 21:37
            +1

            @od810: I would agree with above, but if you're in a big four - they don't care about uni degrees. I contribute to engineering hiring at a big 4, i would say 35% of candidates we hire don't have a uni degree (globally). It's really all about experience (not necessarily work, but portfolios count also), certificates and performing well in the interviews.

            With regards to pay, I think its also relative to where you go (big 4/startups/traditional). I'm in DevOps and have about 2 years experience after dropping out of uni, my base is relatively average ($140k) when you compare to a similar role in the same city, but total compensation with vesting equity and bonus is around $400k a year. I also do oncall work, which I'm compensated an additional ~20% of my base. For entry level (out of uni/little experience), total compensation drops to about $200k ($105k base, 20k bonus, 70k equity).

            • Marbel on 24/10/2020 - 23:54

              @refizen: i'm very much interested in what sort of company you're working for? industry? 140K average in DevOps with 2 years experience? total compensation with vesting equity is about 400k a year. you're not kidding are you?

              • Cynicaloflife on 25/10/2020 - 14:22

                @Marbel: Same Here. What is big 4 (do you mean big 4 banks or accounting firms?)

                • Marbel on 25/10/2020 - 17:53
                  +3

                  @Cynicaloflife: Yep, it could be those mate. But yeah, I think that's ridiculous salary. I've been doing IT for about 13 years, in the infrastructure space.

                  I've applied for a DevOps role at one of the big four banks and got offered the job, it's not even close to this kind of salary.

                  Even the entry level salary that was mentioned sounds BS to me. Lol. I worked for a global finance/tech company. There is no way this is being offered.

                  Anyway, just curious.

              • refizen on 25/10/2020 - 17:55

                @Marbel: I mean the big four/five tech companies which are Amazon, Apple, Google and Facebook. I work for one of the above and I keep a large product (> 1 billion users) in one of these companies reliably running. The role consists of 25% ops work and the rest is software engineering work.

                The base is $140k, the real pay is in the equity package as is common with tech companies. When I started I was granted $550k USD of equity which vest evenly over 4 years… provided I still work for the company.

                • refizen on 25/10/2020 - 18:23
                  +1

                  @refizen: DevOps/SRE is a very specialised role especially at the mid-high levels, its very hard to find candidates at the big tech hiring standards which is why compensation is really high, you need to know globally distributed system design in depth, linux at least to a RHCE or equivalent level, networking in great detail and software engineering (SWE level knowledge - not systems scripting). Basically a senior system admin + SWE combined into one person.

                  That's why i mentioned in my earlier comment, it really depends on where you go. Obviously if you're going to some bank who runs on something like AWS that serves a peak of 1 million users you can't expect as much money as opposed to being a DevOps/SRE @ Amazon.

                • Marbel on 25/10/2020 - 18:26

                  @refizen: Really big player tech companies. Got you, that sounds really cool. What were you doing before?
                  Provided you like working there, 4 years isn't really that much long to wait for the equity to be vested.

                  • refizen on 25/10/2020 - 20:35
                    +1

                    @Marbel: System admin for 1.5 years, then spending 4-5 months to study for the interviews (system design + algos were my weak areas I worked on).

                    4 years doesn't seem long but traditionally, attrition is quite high in these companies as a jump across to a competing company or a relocation (especially to the Bay Area or NYC) can mean you'll make ~30-50% more and can generally level up faster.

                    • od810 on 25/10/2020 - 21:36

                      @refizen: The pay package you mentioned is only applicable for US because the bay area is very competitive. I once interviewed with FB London when they opened the office there, the offer wasn't much better than australia.

                      • refizen on 25/10/2020 - 22:09
                        +1

                        @od810: No, i'm working in Australia, the package above is what I'm currently getting. Everyone on the same level and role gets the same base and bonus, the stock is whats different for everyone and depends on how/if you negotiate.

                        Anything outside the US is significantly less, incl UK… but the US gets a lot more than what I mentioned… for comparison, two weeks ago I received a $425K USD (182k base) offer to work in NYC as a Senior SWE. A level up to staff engineer and you're easily clearing 600K-1M USD.

                        Outside the US, I know Google pays on par to the US in Zurich & Munich, Apple pays on par in London & Singapore for SRE/SWE roles, Amazon pays almost equivalent to US for SRE/DevOps roles in Australia.

            • coffeeinmyveins on 26/10/2020 - 17:11

              @refizen:

              For entry level (out of uni/little experience), total compensation drops to about $200k ($105k base, 20k bonus, 70k equity).

              I'm curious to see an entry level role for someone straight out of uni that has a compensation package of 200k. Unless it's highly specialised and the person is a genius, this is not normal, and this sort of rhetoric leads to people like OP thinking they can land dreamland salaries with no skill.

              • refizen on 26/10/2020 - 19:31
                +1

                @coffeeinmyveins: I didn't mention no skill nor did op. He simply asked whats a kushy job that pays well and doesn't require qualifications. The one I recommend is exactly that, but no where did I mention no skill. OP states he is willing to gain the skills.

                Grad roles in engineering at top tier tech companies are highly competetive, many if not all do not require tiertiary qualifications. I'd be surprise if grad/entry level total comp is anything below $150k in Australia at a top tier tech firm (Amazon, Msft et al).

                Is it easy to gain/learn these skills? Depends on your aptitude, but generally - hell no. Can you without additional certification or a tiertiary degree? Yes.

                Again OP states "I'm fine with doing short courses maybe" - studying 6-8 months everyday for a 6 figure starting salary, flexible time, free food, free private health care, additional 2wk time off, loads of gifts/discounts, free gym membership is a pretty good ROI.

                • Cynicaloflife on 26/10/2020 - 20:34

                  @refizen: I would be very interested in getting into one of the Big 5. Can I PM you to ask more questions on preparations, process etc? I tried for Amazon once and the interview process was brutal.

                  • refizen on 27/10/2020 - 01:19

                    @Cynicaloflife: Yeah no worries, happy to help.

                    Being an interviewer, I can confirm they are definately brutal but intended to extract the best of your knowledge and the value you'll add.

                    • Intoxicoligist on 02/11/2020 - 21:17

                      @refizen: I worked at Google (Sydney) for 2 years in 2013-2014. There may have been some incredible talents that were getting SRE roles with no experience/uni degree, but the majority I knew were well experienced and at the top of their game/career. I don't know why they would hire someone fresh without experience/extreme talent opposed to someone who's been on the tools for 10 years and knows them like the back of their hand.

                      With regards to salary, when I visited the Zurich office we went drinking in a bar with Monet's on the walls, and I was told I didn't get paid enough to pay for drinks there.

                      The Mountain View office was cool, but the pay at the bottom doesn't cover rent in the valley, again, unless you're in SRE/DevOps land.

                      SRE/Devops IS a very specialised/technical field, and its not for everyone. Its high stress when a production system goes down and you need to fix it, and every minute down is 5 million in revenue down the drain.

                      That being said, Google wont look at anyone without a degree for 99% of Full Time Employee positions (they do have contractors though, its weird).

                      I was a new grad position earning 55k + a bonus of about 10-15% with no stock options (I was in corporate engineering, not production, which is where you make BIG $).

      • od810 on 23/10/2020 - 23:02
        +2

        Day rate contractor, $800-$1000/day. If you can get in some contract role in large organisation like telcos or banks, it can last for very long time. My previous team has a guy being on 3 month rolling contract for 5 years @ $1200/day

      • AH on 24/10/2020 - 12:44

        Typical grad at trading firms make that much. Having said that, there are usually only ~30 grads who are lucky enough to land a role like that every year.

        • Cynicaloflife on 25/10/2020 - 14:26

          Thats my dream role but extremely hard to get in

    • kiitos on 23/10/2020 - 19:21

      What's your role? Do you have TAFE qualifications, or has it been on the job and self study?

      • adgnetworks on 23/10/2020 - 19:42

        Technical role in a large multi national.

        Been contracting the last few years.

        Also helps that your passionate in what you do with the willingness to just get the job done.

        • bigbadboogieman on 23/10/2020 - 20:27
          +1

          I know what you mean but it's still alot of mental stress instead of physical. There's always something just before the start of a weekend or a holiday. Tbh if the technical side won't kill, the timelines probably will.

    • SelfMade on 24/10/2020 - 01:02
      +2

      I think you've gotta be switched on to be making $250k. You're selling yourself short.

    • berry580 on 24/10/2020 - 09:17

      You work in IT and have no qualification?
      Which part in IT?

      • Intoxicoligist on 24/10/2020 - 20:24

        Heaps of people I know in the industry have no qualifications and learnt on the job. It's a boon early in your career because you can quickly learn technical skills and be earning far more than a newgrad, but over time it might be harder to go further in your career as you might not understand certain core concepts and other high level information they teach at uni. (I went to uni and am probably biased, but I felt it helped me long term).

  • mick123 on 22/10/2020 - 11:38
    +36

    onlyfans

    • AlienC on 22/10/2020 - 11:49
      -1

      I wonder if there is any way an employer or friend could find you.

      I don't think anyone wants to see this hot chick though.

    • HelpMeiCantSee on 23/10/2020 - 09:32

      Only if s/he/they truly have no value

      • smpantsonfire on 23/10/2020 - 13:31
        -5

        Your joking right? You could say the same for garbos….

        Only fans can be really fun for the girls /guys and make a ton of money while doing it.

        • SelfMade on 24/10/2020 - 09:17

          I guess that's your contribution to society?

        • Sukh on 24/10/2020 - 09:54
          +1

          only fans is a 5 year job at max, noone wants old people

          • smpantsonfire on 24/10/2020 - 10:15
            -1

            @Sukh: And if you pull in 100-200k a year with minimal expenses, that's ok.

            • HelpMeiCantSee on 28/10/2020 - 09:29

              @smpantsonfire: To do that, you’d have to be a 10/10 and do some mad kinky shit, and be ok with selling your ass (And soul), and know that your butthole is out there forever as soon as you put it up. A bad idea on all fronts.

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