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$1k Extra Cashback on Top of Any Home Lender Offer for Refinances - Balances over 400k Net of Offset @ Integral Loan Solutions

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Providing an update on recent lender changes this last month and what the majority of my client base has been doing this past month.

Current offers: CBA is still running this deal. Ive gotten 4 clients approved under CBA deal below in the past month.

Hidden deal - CBA - 2.19% 2 year fixed rates 3.99% comp rate which is greatly reduced after a pricing request for owner occupied after pricing escalations on their packages for new customer refinances sub 80% lvr. 2k cashback with cba. 6 of my clients got this they advertise online at 2.29% 2 year fix.

Most of my variable package clients that want an offset and aggressive pricing are going to CBA in the majors and Suncorp in the mid tiers. Both are being very aggressive in the variable discounts offered under the packages.

NAB similar rates to the other majors. No major promotions running right now for refinance cashback offers. So i havent sent much here as there are more competitive offers. They are focusing on the first home deposit scheme after they were flooded in January so they are trying to do right by those customers at this point in time.

ANZ had 2.19% it got bumped up to 2.29% 2 year fix comparison rate 4.02% + 3k from anz + 1k from me - main issue is the sla is service levels, They are going through the end of May 2020 submissions this week. I expect their sla to come down after all of the end of May 4k rebate clients are processed. Also their 2.49% 2 year fix 3.92% comparison rate for investment p&i is still available but if you are under 70% lvr most clients are taking Westpac now as its the same rate and much quicker sla. 3k rebate offer still valid until the end of this month. Also a 2.72% variable redraw product owner occupied 2.76% comp rate up to 80% lvr.

My large portfolios of properties to refinance are going towards Westpac group ie st george westpac bank sa bank of melbourne due to a drop in the fixed rates across both p&i and io + 2k per property cashback. Fixed rates have dropped on owner occupied and investment. You get the lowest rates with them if you are 70% lvr or lower. Their sla's have come down from 30+ days due to covid19 to 5-10 days so much easier to deal with now.

Teachers mutual bank - Ive had a few questions. They run health professionals banks/ uni bank / fire fighters bank / TMU. Most qualify under one of these banks and yes they are lowest by far on 2 year fixed rates investment 2.34% P&I 4.05% comparison rate. Main issue is the 20+ day sla for TMU at the moment + no cashback from the lender to cover your costs.

ING had 2.09% but it got increased to 2.19% 2 year fix around 2 weeks ago. 3.79% comparison rate + no cashback. 1-2 day sla. They are also running a very low 2.64% variable rate owner occupied comp rate 2.98% with offset and annual 299 fee. No lender cashback though.

Variable customers have been targeting St George 2.64% variable rate 2.66% comparison rate + 2k from the lender + 1k from me. Rate changed 3 weeks ago. SLA was 30+ days during covid19 no 1-2 days sla now. it is a bare bones redraw product with no offset and low fees.

Suncorp Most emergency workers or teachers are going here as you get 3-4k cashback for front line workers with them depending on if your loan size is over or under 750k.

Suncorp ive gotten a investment io variable pricing request approved by their banks bdm in the last 3 weeks at 2.99% comp rate 3.00% no annual or monthly fees on 600k loan size with total borrowings on 1.05 mill across 2 loans which is an amazing investment io variable rate. The owner occ variable rate offered to that client with offset was 2.72% comp rate 3.14%. They are the most aggressive on pricing across the board for owner occupied and investment giving plenty of better deals then their online pricing shows on comparison websites. They also do fast refi so you dont need to wait 1+ month to book settlement. Suncorp were doing under the table pricing requests 2.09% 2 year fix about a month ago but are still doing 2.19% sub 80% lvr 3.16% comp rate.

Bankwest 2.73% variable rate comp rate 3.18% owner occupied up to 80% lvr. amazing sla always 1-2 days. If you want a quick deal with no cashback Bankwest should be the top of your list. 2.68% comp rate 3.14% if over 750k loan size. Both products have offset.

Adelaide bank Im getting a few that want the low low rate but also want the flexibility of extra repayment. This is one of the few banks that you can fix for the full balance and have any extra repayments sit in the offset against that product. 2.59% 2 year fix investment 3.18% comp rate up to 80% lvr + full offset against the fixed loan. 2.29% 2 year fixed rate owner occupied up to 80% lvr 2.89% comp rate.

Cashback Deals

ANZ deal is now 3k cashback

Suncorp is 2k cashback 250k – 750k and 3k for 750k+ and an extra 1k from emergency workers or teachers.

Westpac group and St George are 2k per security.

CBA 2k

Virgin money 2.5k

BOQ 2.5k

My experience 7 years in commsec and cba on a margin lending desk and as in in house cba branch home lender. Nearly 4 years as a mortgage broker running my own company.

covid19 Hope everyone is going well in these times. Lenders are being conservative ie using less bonus comms and overtime to use for max borrowing power. They dont like casual work as much(some lenders), lower lvrs offered for self employed. 90% no lmi products for doctors accountants lawyers only 2 banks cba and nab have their products still. Didnt mention ANZ as they are quite slow right now. Westpac group is now 85% no lmi for professionals. Valuations are coming in lower so we monitor this before lodging if we think you are close to 80% lvr.

Kind Regards

Adrian Player | Director

M: 0416643638

E: [email protected]

W: www.integralloansolutions.com.au

Adrian Player is a credit representative (498364) of BLSSA Pty Ltd ACN 117 651 760 (Australian Credit Licence 391237).

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  • +1

    Stop advertising financial services - jokes aside, do you think the time to fix is soon? Is interest only still a considerable avenue for lending?

  • I would recommend Teachers Mutual Bank.. I recently switched to them from ubank .. Was quick switch and love 100% offset acct option..

    Also helped as it caters to essential services sector, is mutual bank and named as Most ethical bank in Australia for last 8 years if that matters

    • Yes agreed a lot of people like them. Can be a little clunky for doing requests after settlement like updating details or dealing with their call centre. But i dont like their variable rate 1 year teaser offers. I think they could scrap that product.

    • Was with TMB for their fixed loan with offset. But, their variable rate is terrible and when rates started tumbling recently you couldn't ride it out with a reasonable variable, and locking in a fixed then was just as bad idea.
      They need to sort out their variable offering.

      • yes i agree with that only go for tmu if its a fixed rate you are after.

    • Almost being a customer until found out that im not eligibled to join their member, in any way

      • Yeh they do make you ask for a membership first before you lodge but it can be a little confusing.

  • Thanks for the run down Adrian.

    • No worries, its so much more then interest rate alone these days. sla / interest rate / service levels / deal appetite / policy and a whole range of things.Some lenders are doing under the table deals which you cant see online. I dont know everything but if i can give some clarity of the types of clients going to each lender at the moment i hope that helps.

  • Got a few of loans with CBA on lower value regional properties (two @ $150k, 1 @ $300). Who would you recommend refinancing one / all of them to for the best cashback Refi deal?
    Eligible front line worker. Love offset accounts, but not a deal breaker without.

    • Most lenders have a minimum loan size of 250k to qualify for the cashback offers.

      Cant really make a judgement on that as well until i know your current interest rates as well. As well as the banks you are with so we can see the banks we are able to move you to.

      Estimated fees:

      300 per mortgage for the mortgage transfer
      150-200 settlement fee most banks
      299-395 annual fee for a package with most banks with offset
      Discharge fee per mortgage at your current banks

      So we need to work out if its in your interest to move or not.

      • Can I 'play the field' and join two loans together to make a $250k loan at say ANZ, then a $300k at Suncorp etc and get cashback from each.
        *Coming from CBA with about 0.1 discount below their baseline variable. Two fixed loans at 'i don't want to look' rate expiring next month.

        • That is 1 option. Banks do start asking a lot more questions when you do them at the same time. So you may want to do the suncorp one first then do the ANZ one.

  • im locked with NAB for 2 years @3.19%, can I switch to lower interest or different bank?

    • Contact your current bank dont tell them you are refinancing, tell them you are considering going back to variable and what is today's break quote.

      Once you have the quote send it to me and ill do some calculations if its worth while to move or not.

      • what is normal a break quote? just in your experience?

        • There is no normal anymore because rates have dropped so much. It all depends on how long till the fixed expiry what you locked in at and what rates have done in the mean time since you fixed. 2 year fixes the max ive seen of late is 3-4 k. But we will never know until you contact your bank.

          • @Adrian Player: thanks, I'll contact them in my early convenient. Will keep you update via PM

        • +1

          CBA charged us around $5700 on a fixed rate Interest Only loan with a tad over 2 years remaining on it back in May. The fixed IO rate was 4.14%.

  • hi adrian,

    thanks for the very informative post.
    Can i ask how aggressive cba have been with their variable package rate?
    gareth

    • All depends on loan balance and previous relationship with CBA. Ive gotten 750k+ loans 2.70-2.75% range on a variable package. Ive gotten just under 2.70% variable under the package on a 1+ mill deal. Both were under 80% lvr. Suncorp is better in the 400k - 600k bracket of late. I can never guarnatee what they will supply on yours i can just give guidance on what ive gotten in the past.

  • Hi Adrian, why is this a better deal than bundle loans? They are offering 0.3% of loan amount. Which is $1,200 for minimum 400K loan amount.

    • Anyone can run offers that they want. In my experience in the broking space, a lot of these ones offer to pay the trail back in full arent around long and the ones that pass on more then 50% of their up front after aggregator split, loan writing costs, software costs, pi and insurance costs again are not around long. Nothing against bundle just speaking about these guys in general. Id rather have a sustainable model. Feel free to use them or me, see if they are around in a few years.

      Another example of this would be uno homeloans who offered between 1k-1.5k for all refinances. But they had over lying technology piece that ensured clients stayed with them once they got a loan with them. So their retention program for the loan tracking app they run is quite good. So they play a more long game approach.

      I can show a track record of settlements/lodgements over the last quarter which puts me in the top 200 of brokers in Australia. Ive always been in lending. So their is a greater reliability to my service then most other brokers. It doesnt mean im a miracle maker but it does mean if there is a deal to be done most times i can get it done.

      • That is quite a detailed response. Thanks for that.

        But when you say service in a few years, what service exactly does a broker provide?

        You are saying they may not be around but how does that impact the customer? The loan is with a bank.

        This being a bargain website. How is your deal any better than bundle loans?

        When you say more than 50% of upfront? How do you reckon 0.3% is more than 50%. Don't you get 0.6% or MORE from most of the banks after aggregator deductions? And considering the volumes you are writing being among top 200 in Australia. The other costs won't be too much per deal.

        • Ive amended this comment as i can see the person messaging has a long history going onto broker posts and grills them wasting their time.

  • What the current going Variable rate for CBA?

    • Ive answered this above on the package rates. On the redraw extra product 2.79% comp rate 2.80% owner occupied.

      • I am currently with CBA and I just looked up I am paying 3.2%, Is there anything I can do to get better?

        • Existing clients dont get the same pricing as new clients at any of the lenders now. Your best bet would be suncorp with a package with offset on variable after a pricing request + 2k cashback. If you are happy with a redraw variable product with low fees st george at 2.64% is a good option.

          But before looking into these options call cba and ask for a better rate first to see what they will give you. On a 400-600k balance i wouldnt expect more then 2.95-3.05% range for an existing customer.

          • @Adrian Player: Thanks for the info may give them a call but I am under 400K so could be pushing my luck

      • And Macquarie @ 2.59 to 2.74% offset (LVR dependent)?

        • Correct at 60% lvr which most people dont qulify for. at 80% 2.74% with offset correct.

          No cashback to cover expenses of moving lenders with macquarie.

  • What is the best rate for variable IO + offset for PPOR? I'm currently at 3.21%

    • Suncorp 3.04% io variable owner occupied + offset up to 80% which can most likely be improved by a pricing request. 3.40% comp rate.

      • Is there appetite from suncorp to consider IO for PPOR though?
        I believe only handful of lenders are willing to consider this.. or has that changed?

        • It all depends on which lender you want and how the loan notes are structured. Most of the time on owner occupied they get declined because the only reason why a client wanted io on owner occ was because they either had cashflow issues or issues with something in their life. ie starting a business, having kids, medical issue etc. But if its a high net worth individual with the accountant saying he wants this structure due to keeping the money in certain investments, most banks will approve this. Or a client has a fin planner doing debt recycling.

  • reported to asic for illegally using the word 'independent'

    • +1

      Not great help with Adrian. Initial communication was good, but no response to emails or calls. Glad that it happened.

      Settled with Bendigo bank yesterday in Melbourne.

      2.50% variable interest only on investment rate.
      2.35% Variable p+I on PPOR.

      $10 per month fees with 100% offset account.
      $2K refinance paid into the account yesterday itself.

      • +1

        Its unfortunate. But you there are any number of reasons why this has occured. Im also glad you got a good deal.

        But sitting on here and being salty may not be the best path to take.

        Ive had to say no to clients for any number of reasons. Some of those are:

        1. Refinanced recently, doesnt want to change the structure or lower the rate they only want cashback - ie i cant do the loan
        2. Refinanced recently and grilled me on clawback policy
        3. Communication issues, ive answered the phone and they have a heavy accent which makes communication tough
        4. I had a client call me around a month ago he ran a refinance deal through another broker through westpac, it took 3 months, he wanted me to refinance again claw back on the other broker and then he told me he was selling his property in 12 months so i was being clawed back as well. he didnt care about me or the other broker and the work we had done. That person was from Melbourne as well.
        5. Ive had clients call me and tell me they have large balances in offset and then grill me on the lenders policy as they wanted to see how they can get around the cashback deal for the lender.

        Ive got over 30 people here on Oz bargains that ive settled deals for and ive dont that with integrity. Unfortunately im not the broker for everyone. Especially the people that are trying to get one over me.

        I run a business and trust and integrity is high on my wish list for clients. This goes both ways. I can say no to clients just like clients can say no to me.

      • Do you have any more information on this?

        Can you send to me via a private conversation.

      • Wondering if you have applied for your loan directly or through a broker?
        On their website shows Complete Home Loan - variable 2.79% comparison 3.04% but you mentioned 2.35% Variable p+I on PPOR.
        Thanks in advance

        • Directly as they don’t have broker channel.

        • +1

          Yes i agree with your comment. It took me 2 seconds of research to see the rates this person is quoting are better then even reduce homeloans. I call bullshit. They are just disgruntled i didnt want to help them. You should see some of the calls i get from people that dont want to listen or message me 5+times and want 10 email confirmations. Ive learnt over the years to say no early if it feels wrong after the first few communications to these clients or its just gets worse down the track. Im running a business.

      • I'm interested as well. Appreciate if you could share some information on this.

        • 80%lvr.

          No application fees, no valuation fees either.
          $10 per month as a package fee which gives me 100% offset account . No fee low rate cc which I don’t opt for or reduced premium cards

          • @Ckanna: Send me a message of 2.50% variable interest only on investment rate with bendigo bank?

            I call bullshit. No bank is close to this rate on investment io variable.

            Do you know how i know this? I just had a 1.5 mill investment multiple property refinance with a good portion variable io. It was also on a low lvr and no bank is doing close to this rate.

            Stop miss leading people.

    • Feel free my post is compliant.

      • compliant now after editing… but you used the words ' independent company' which is in the history for all to see when you are not independent as per s923A of the Corporations Act, s160B of the National Consumer Credit Protection Act, ASIC's RG175.

    • I'm sure ASIC have nothing better to do than police ozbargain forum posts.

  • OP, is redraw generally a cheaper product compared to offset? When I had a mortgage years ago it used to be simple. It was a redraw facility with a non-bank lender. I can pay ahead towards my mortgage account and redraw again (min $10 per redraw, no redraw fee and no limit how many times I can redraw). Also no annual fee or any type of monthly fee. Does this type of redraw still exist?

    • Yes most redraw products have no annual fee or monthly fee + a rate that is already rock bottom at most banks so pricing requests dont get done. Most cost nothing for redraw as long as it's done online.

      • Hi, do you mean the product exist but not being promoted? Not sure what you mean by "pricing requests dont get done". Thanks.

        • Yes correct most big banks on their offset packages variable rates are pricing requests on the back end of the banks websites.

  • No mention of HSBC @2.65%??

    • HSBC is a great deal but not on 90% of brokers aggregator panels. Its not on mine. Most dont want to deal with a chinese bank even if its an Australian subsidiary of it.

      Very good deal but similar to others since it doesnt supply cashback and you have to cover your own costs with moving banks.

      But yes HSBC is always sharp on rate.

  • Hi Adrian,

    what a fortuitously timed post for me!
    currently with st george on their basic home loan - 2.79% variable, P&I, owner occupier, just under 450k remaining with 200k in redraw that I want to maintain as emergency buffer.
    any suggestions on a good move, was tempted by the low fixed rates they are offering but I don't need/want a credit card and the yearly fee kinda bugs me.

    goal is to almost pay it off quickly to possibly invest in another property while rates are low.

    Thanks,

    • Ok to get the cashback you need above a 250k drawn balance for most banks offers.

      If you want to stay variable. The rate you are already on is quite sharp.

      But most banks you move onto to get the 2.19% 2 year fixed rates have a 299 to 395 annual fee for the package under most banks.

      Youd also have to consider if fixing is for you? How much in extra repayment over that 2 year period do you need room for?

  • Wondering when will you pay the cash back?
    What is your clawback policy?

    • I pay it within 1 week of me being paid from the lender. Normally that is the 23rd of the following month post settlement. I dont have a clawback policy for my 1k comm rebate.

  • +1

    Hi! Can this all be done online? I am in Queensland and wondering if I can use your services.

    Thanks

    • Yes ive got an online fact find, ive got an online bank statement retrieval tool as well. And most things can be done via phone or email. Depending on the bank they may want you to visit the branch once if you are a new to bank customer.

      Send me an email with a quick run down of your scenario.

      [email protected]

  • +1

    Cheers Adrian. Email is on the way.

  • Hi Adrian,

    I am looking at options to refinance..Lend would be around 560k v value 850k

    Hoping you maybe to offer some options,

    Of the majors, ING turn around times looking at doing something in next couple of weeks..

    Regards,
    Greg

    • Hi Greg, Send me an email at [email protected] and i can send you some options tomorrow.

      ING turn around times are pretty sharp at 2-3 days to pick up a file at the moment.

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