Apparently part of a ongoing "Hot Deal". Show this price to OW for price beat to possibly get it for $3162. Apple RRP $3799, so this is a substantial saving for a current model Apple Macbook.
If you want the top model Apple 16in MacBook Pro 2019 9th Gen i9 16GB / 1TB (MVVK2X/A), it is $3859 (RRP $4399).
. Try OW price beat for $3666!
Woah, I didn't know that deal existed, but that is actually AMAZING
wow
…would share the link to purchase? Or just to gloat?
Is it employee discount? My friend works there and gets discount
Haha so just to gloat then.
fell off the back of a truck?
You are a gimp.
Bought my top spec MBP for $3.00 brand new, very good price. Unfortunately I can't share any information on this, sorry.
Damn, I got mine for tree fiddy…feel ripped off. Can't share any information on this either, sorry.
Nope, you didn't.
Yes, correct
thanks. looks like new model will be out soon?
Looks that way, same 5300M
is this same model?
Yes. Retail off the shelf, there are only 2 current models of the 16inch Macbooks - 512GB i7 and 1TB i9.
Holy shit Apple gets worse and worse as the months go by. $3300 is considered a bargain?!
And no option to get rid of the touch bar.
Makes their Mobile iPhones of $2000+ look really cheap.
best part is after spent $2000, you still don't get 90/120 HZ display, and fast charging
Funny how Samsung only just released a phone this year with 120hz and that too more expensive than an iPhone. Not to mention that the iPhone refresh occurs in September with rumours of 120hz display. Not trying to be a fanboy just a fair judgement. Also all of the Pro phones come with fast charging so that just false information?
@Void: Fair point if anything Im thinking its going to still be under $2000 with maybe the bigger model being around $1999. No standard iPhone is over $2000. @argo1230 is just spreading misinformation
@SitarBoy: I wonder though, is the S20 closer to the iPhone 11 Pro or the S20 Ultra? If it's the S20 then Samsung really are giving a better value, but if not then Apple might not be doing too bad. Samsung have gone to shit in recent years so I wouldn't be surprised, I find OnePlus are the best for the money these days.
@Void: I would say the S20 at the moment is comparable to the iPhone 11 Pro. If Apple releases new iPhones this year with 120Hz then id say they are competing with the Ultra. I think 120hz makes a big difference as its such an important selling point for these high end phones.
OnePlus is definitely good value especially with the new Nord range.
Also love getting downvoted for stating facts!
120 hz on phone ….. how fast do the goblins in clash of clans run that people are worried screen tearing on a 6” screen …….
MacBooks are a rip off, but iPhone pricing isn’t as bad as some people make out. The iphone 11 starts at $1200, and it’s pretty much the fastest phone on the planet. It has all the same specs as the iPhone 11 Pro, except for the screen and the extra telephoto lens. Apple is still selling the 2-year-old iPhone XR for $1049, and its processor is as fast as current Samsung flagship phones. The latest iPhones are great for shooting video, in fact better than most traditional cameras. Samsung phones have an edge in photography though. My iPhone 7 is 4 years old and has been dropped onto concrete about 30 times. Still going strong, and still super fast and snappy to use. Can’t say the same for Samsung phones released the same year. My Samsung S7 Edge was much slower and its screen completely died on its second drop.
@ForkSnorter: lol - no way. The iphone 11 series are significantly better than pretty much every phone on the market - especially the samsungs which deliver over exposed over saturated over sharpened images.
I prefer android overall, but the camera on the ip11 is really sensational.
@[Deactivated]: I think MacBook Pros used to be a good deal. But nowadays the disparity between a similarly specced windows machine seems too great. If I was buying a laptop nowadays, I’d probably get a Dell Inspiron 2-in-1, which has a touchscreen and you can flip the keyboard over the back and use it like a tablet; you can get an i7 version for about $1900 or even cheaper when it’s on sale.
@ForkSnorter: A MacBook's value really depends on your use case. On paper they do seem underpowered compared to the Windows counterparts but people forget Apple's optimisation on the macOS side which more than makes up for the disparity in performance. Im a software developer and I cannot code application on an iPad (at least not yet). Is the iPad a good replacement for a computer? Absolutely for some people but not all. And that's what the MacBook appeals to, those people who need that little bit more than the iPad. Not to mention that in order to get a similar experience on the iPad Pro you would be spending about the same as you would on an mid range MacBook Pro.
I wouldn't say so, the mobile phone cannot edit video, play intensive games, and smaller screen, i'd prefer the macbook than the iphone if i were to splurge 2k
I’d prefer an iPad Pro. It can edit video, play intensive games (even using a wifi gamepad), and do 95% of what the MacBook can do, plus a few things it can’t. Screen is nicer, and it’s a touchscreen, you can get Apple Pencil 2 and do serious art/design work on it. You can get a wifi trackpad/mouse for it, and it works with 10-year-old Apple wifi keyboards, which are cheap secondhand. Set it up on a music stand in front of your sofa and you have a much more comfortable work station that a computer on a desk.
People keep drinking the kool-aid though
$3300 is considered a bargain?
Well, you got me there. 🏅
It's a bargain ripoff then.
Damn the entire Harris Scarfe range should be on here then
I know this is considered a bargain by MacBook, but it is poorly spec-ced compared to most other laptops, so I don't understand the hate and downvotes.
MacBooks are in an interesting space because there aren’t any competitors that run Mac OS so if you want the better specs and Mac OS this is your only choice. Hence why it’s a bargain when there a decent discount.
A lot of professionals don’t want to use windows so the laptops that are better bang for buck aren’t really relevant . Many of them are still more poorly built and don’t feel as nice to use as well.
There's Hackintoshes but IIRC they aren't legal or something.
@Void: Not just that , they’re just a headache as well when it comes to compatibility and things just working properly without workarounds
Great - so as well as inferior hardware you get an inferior operating system that runs about 20% of the software. Good marketing campaigns and a founder that dropped acid won't make people more 'creative' but I guess the placebo effect will benefit some.
@[Deactivated]: Or just accept that a lot of people prefer them?
Marketing has its place but windows is inferior to me unless you’re gaming. I can’t think of any software I’m missing out on aside from games.
For me the creative suite on Mac fits my preferences more and it’s more intuitive to use as an OS. As is the case for most designers and programmers who I know that all use macs . Stuff like preview , finder , quick look , the trackpad, the integration between Mac and iPhone especially is all unmatched on windows. E.g iMessage , airdrop and iCloud .
Those cheaper laptops won't be built anywhere near as nicely though - have to compare with other 'premium'-line laptops like the XPS. You're also paying for MacOS and especially the hardware/software support (which is far ahead of any other manufacturer).
Nice to have a well-specced laptop if it's only going to be connected to an external monitor but if you're using it on the go/on its own, the keyboard, display, trackpad, battery life, stability/reliability etc are really important (in addition to the specs).
This is true. At work we have to choose between HP elitebooks and Dell latitudes. These are really crap machines compared with better quality spectres and XPS laptops, which are relatively close in price to MacBook Pros.
I would be happy to buy a PC equivalent that doesn't kick the fans in all the time and then start whirring away.
Looking forward to your recommendations.
I believe the new Ryzen 4000 mobile laptops do run very nicely, but I'm not 100% on that. Would you rather whirring or a CPU hot enough to fry an egg?
Edit: Anyhoo we both have different definitions of noise, but my $1000 Dell Inspiron turns on the fans and for me they are barely audible.
My MacBook has never fried an egg and is still perfect after 7 years of daily use.
I prefer no noisy fans, no whirring and no egg frying because I'm buying a laptop not a cooktop with extraction fans.
@superValue: Oh yes the older Macbooks were lovely, would buy an older Macbook design with new CPUs and ports any day. These days Apple is really pushing the limits of how thin they can make a laptop, so much that they're skimping on I/O and CPU cooling.
@superValue: Dell have a range here, up until $1000 it's mostly AMD's crappy CPUs but there's definitely better around the $1500-2000 mark. I think 7000 series is of the best quality. Lenovo have a range here. Their best built ones are ThinkPads, but the look might not be for you. Also make sure it's Ryzen 4000 series and not 3000, 3000 was nowhere near as good. HP have some here. This is from limited research. It seems the manufacturers aren't giving the Ryzen laptops their all, whereas the Intel laptops are getting the higher quality builds.
@Void: Thanks. I'll pay a visit to a retailer to check some out maybe an ASUS Vivobook? But none of these have the same resolution as the Macbook.
I've been sitting here browsing for the past hour and no fan operation - just bliss.
Feature for feature it's good value. And it's very finely crafted, it makes most PC laptops look and feel kinda crap. You can find a same specced laptop cheaper, but is it as thin, as light, is the battery life as long, does it have an IPS display, or quality keyboard, or large glass trackpad, and will the hardware be getting software and firmware support for the next 5+ years?
Razer make some really well built laptops, Dell XPS is also quite good but I've never used one. IPS is quite standard in $1000+ laptops, I wouldn't call it a standout feature. Imo ThinkPads are way better than the thin and lights. Battery life is amazing, they're built like tanks and they look classy.
There's IPS displays and then there's really good high res IPS displays. Plus both parts are milled from a solid block of metal, it’s good craftsmanship.
Wouldn’t touch a razor with their reputation for bad QC and even worse support.
@FatBlanket: I hate their peripherals with all the hate I have, but I've used a Razer Blade before and it was really well built. Almost, almost right up there with Apple.
Umart was closed mt waverley store in VIC
So sad
I wish there was 32gb and 64gb varients.
Those are built to order models and never go on sale. Except for that one time office works somehow had 15" BTO models.
That’s not strictly true. Custom models are on sale in both the Apple education store and the refurbished store.
They aren’t available from third-party retailers.
I expect the next revision will add a 32gb option as standard.
Better get it now as the next gen will be using ARM
Which will be good for most users who just need to use the core capabilities that Apple is really good at - as the hardware will be able to leverage lower powered platforms, which means amazing battery life and portability.
IMO weening W10 and OSX off the x86 platform is the best thing to happen in technology in the past 20 years.
At least from a power usage point of view.
Why is that? Genuinely asking, not being facetious..
ARM is about to be sold off (in saying thay apple is using its own silicon and doesn't even refer to it as arm) .. Big little architecture is fantastic for mobile chips but not so great with the above OS', Although i think Apple will be fine as they have already been giving users a taste of it with their ipad pros… So their next gen will likely be iOS more than mac OS DNA wise.. But AMD has shown what x86 chips are capable of and there more to come there… Apple will do what Apple does and they'll be successful at it… Still i dont see where the big gain is…
Ignoring the Intel vs AMD thing… The benefit is that Apple owns the silicon.
As Moore’s law slows in the next decade, Apple can move more proprietary parts of its OS directly into the silicon.
Full screen video used to be very demanding on PC’s, you could barely watch a movie on a laptop without the CPU getting unbearably hot and the batteries going flat. Then the decoding logic was moved into the hardware and watching full screen video is one of the less demanding things you can do on a computer.
Apple has already implemented core security stuff FaceId and encryption directly inside its silicon. More and more will be added.
They are in a very strong position by having full control over both hardware and software.
@guidedlight: What Apple is doing, Samsung & the Chinese companies can do 2x faster & cheaper (they are major innovators). Apple is still running on consumer confidence reserves. The Covid-19 depression will change that soon. The Asian century has started & the US are filling uncomfortable.
The pace of tech is changing rapidly & the next stage will be more drastic. Things will never be the same.
@taki: But probably since the iPhone 4s I would say Apple has been beating Samsung and their chips in terms of performance. Mainly due to optimisation, but also specs. The only way Samsung phones have been able to compete (in real world and benchmarks) is by adding 12GBs of ram to offset the different in performance and lack of optimisation. Same goes with power consumption. Apple is able to minimise the size of the battery whilst still getting all day battery where on the other hand you see Samsung putting a larger and larger battery in order to accomodate the hungrier technology that they put in.
@taki: it’s all about software ….trump gave huawei a black eye when access to android was blocked by google , and samsung also depend on google to sell android phones, not sure what OS surpass android and ios for phone that will come out of asia …… with no app store or playstore you can’t sell phones, it’s all about software, without software the device is just a brick.
desktop / laptop os wise …… it’s mac os and windows 10, haven’t seen a corporate office that runs 1000’s of linux devices as they run MS office and windows 10 ……
@guidedlight: Trying to control hardware and software is what nearly destroyed Apple Which goes hand in hand with why we have cheap personal computers and why M$ Became the juggernaut they became… so it’ll be interesting to see how it plays out this time around…
And to be honest you can’t just ignore what AMD and intel are doing … intel may have stagnated but amd certainly hasn’t …
Interesting times ahead .. 😃
The strategy is to merge iPadOS and OSX, which is somewhat in play already.
So you’ll have three hardware product lines: iPhone, MacBook Pro, and some kind of hybrid between iPad and MacBook/MacBook Air.
The iPad already has mouse and keyboard support, so the MacBook Air is basically just a tarted up iPad with a slightly larger screen. Why support two architectures?
The market will gobble up an all-singing, all-dancing tablet device, so it makes sense to get on the back foot and sell that product to them. After all, isn’t that what the Surface has offered the market for the past ten years?
Does it mean dual boot and virtual machine will not work anymore ?
No dual boot definitely not… What Rosetta 2 can do for other apps is yet to be seen but cant see it being utilised for virtual machine… But who knows
The transition is said to be a lot smoother than power pc to intel… But yeh time will tell
Should be able to dual-boot linux, not windows though :p
At least that's my concern.
What a terrible existence it must be.
Wow… we are in a recession and all this debt, yet people can afford a $3k+ laptop?
With just another $1500 you can buy a used car.
if you don’t work in retail or hospitality then yes, people do buy $3000 laps in these times,
skilled home workers really cleaned computer shop shelves and it’s tax deductible. macbooks keep their value so if you sell it in 3 years time you get get more than the depreciated book value.
can’t say the same for my windows laptop.
people pay more than this for carbon fibre bikes that earn them less money.
I think covid has shown many people how vulnerable their career choices have made them, and if your are old try and live from home as long as you can, even you if you need to remodel your bathroom or bedroom or mortgage your home …..
With the ARM based models starting to roll out this year, I'd avoid this.
Apple said they will continue to support Intel based macs as they transition, but what apple say and what they do are two different things entirely.
There are two ways of looking at it. Yours, and the other way this will maximise your current software’s useable life.
Good luck on this. Apple is going to do away with Intel chips soon with their own silicon. Same as it did with power pc. You are going to get barely 2 to 3 years from this machine before it's out of support
the problem will be getting developers to port applications to ARM quickly enough, so in true apple fashion they will keep on selling intel based machines for some time, but not upgrade the models, and start to transition in new ARM models, so that if you can get the apps you need on ARM buy ARM, if not buy an older intel model until the app is ported. For me if it runs Microsoft office i don’t care about CPU type, but office is the only app i run on my macbook that doesn’t come as part of OS.
what it will kill is the value of used macbooks with intel if you try and sell them …..currently buy a 3 year old macbook and you can run it for a min another 5 years as old macbook runs the current OS (lots of 8 year old macbooks still in use) that will not be the case in the future, so selling used intel macbooks they won’t keep their value …..was same with powerPC transition,
Apple has still said that they will be selling intel based MacBooks for the next two years (or some time) until they have fully transitioned to ARM. Afterwards, you would probably get another 2 years of support. That is still 4 years of support, and maybe by that time you would be thinking of upgrading your machine anyway so its not too bad of a deal.
There's a big difference between what Apple says and does, 😊
If I had to believe any company regarding their support for software, it would be Apple. But the future is unknown to everyone so you cant be sure.
I bought one from Costco for $3450. Costco prices are always good on Apple,
This is a good deal too
Always wishing one deal comes along that beats this deals