Thanks to Dealbot via: https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/544834
Found this deal on the RTX2070
Thanks to Dealbot via: https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/544834
Found this deal on the RTX2070
Looks like they forgot to Price Jack before eBay Sale.
Not a single person managed to buy one before they price jacked :(
https://offer.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBidsLogin&ite…
Just saved $ 719.20, thanks!
pretty sure you can’t calculate it like that bro
Yeah I don't think putting everything on a linear performance curve is going to work.
I want to upgrade my GPU but it feels like you need to pay a lot for diminishing returns. All I want is Overwatch in 60fps with everything on high, in 4K with no scaling.
PC parts are generally diminishing returns with cost. That's just how it is and always has been.
@mackdiddy: It's pretty much how everything is, whether cars, appliances, phones and so on. Low end is crap performance but price is low (serious comprises). Mid range is best bang for buck. High end is best performance at premium price
Price and performance are not linearly related. At the top end you’re paying a lot more for relatively low gain
Got my new Mazda 3 last year which costs twice as much as my previous Mazda 2. I was expecting it to go 0-100 in 5 seconds with a top speed of 440kmph.
What is your top speed now, have you tested it?
try run tri-crossfire with 3x 580 , see if you get 300% faster
Can't, i've given up my other PCI pathways to SSD drives.
They've pulled all the listings it seems.
Saw that too. Must have forgotten to jack their prices ahead of time.
Same for the 2060 listing removed.
Guys it’s okay, you can still get a TP-link switch from them unjacked
Jack's went on strike. Working too hard this morning.
I still can't believe that video cards have barely come down in price in 3 years. I got my 1080Ti for $894.20 3 years ago- https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/314043
Agreed. Even with inflation, Turing should have been much cheaper but it may have just been NVIDIA raising the price for each card to include ray tracing and DLSS support with (hopefully) Ampere coming in as a proper full release of those new features at a more reasonable price.
They have, then we all had to bunker down and supply line costs went up as everyone bought gaming PC gear like mad.
You could get a 2060 Super for as low as $475 at the start of the year, which is about 8-10% behind this in performance.
Wait for Ampere and you'll see value in the market again (but not from these cards at the end of their product cycle).
No reason for Nvidia to drop their prices at the top end unfortunately. They have no competition.
AMD have done a good job on with the 5700 series, but if you want xx80 or xx80ti performance, you only have one real choice.
Also the AUD is still a bit low.
And the 1080Ti is still faster than the 2700 Super
Damnit this would have been a great deal.
At this point, most should just wait till the 3000 series comes out there is a large performance uplift and for cheaper(?). Raytracing said to be 4x better…
I feel like I’m always perpetually waiting for the next GPUs to come out
agree
That is very true, one can only make the best choice to fit their needs at any given time. I for one was lucky to get the RTX 2060 Super via Umart price error $480 and then sell my GTX1070 for $380 so only $100 for a 30% performance gain. So I can wait for the 3000 Series Super or Ti version to come out.
And then wait for the next rumored to be x% better again…
… but then in 2 mths time after that theres another new one coming out… rinse and repeat.
You could spend your life waiting for the next one. Buy now and enjoy it.
Each GPU generation will be a substantial jump in raytracing performance for the next 3 or so, so my recommendation would be to just buy early in a series, probably 2-3 months in at most for your product segment (so long as prices aren't crazy) if you haven't got a raytracing card currently, and to not go any higher than the xx80.
So the move right now is to wait for the 3000 series, likely buying October-December.
The rumours and the GA100 (non-gaming chip) numbers point to NVIDIA pushing the manufacturing process to its absolute limit to deliver value for its server and professional customers, so anything other than the poorest of off-cuts from the very top end of things will be at least as expensive as the 2080Ti was at launch.
The value will be everything below that, at least after people scramble around at launch.
Not when the next generation is about to drop. Now is the worst time to buy a gfx card unless you get a crazy, crazy good deal. The new cards will have a massive uplift on raytracing at least, and a decent jump in general performance.
Last time when 2000 series was released, somehow NVIDIA decided to price 2080 same with 1080Ti for similar performance, then the 2080 Ti just became a whole new tier of expensive. I hope they won't price the high-end 3000 cards starting at 2080 Ti price level…
Keep in mind that the 2080 has since pushed past the 1080Ti, and will continue to do so as Vulkan and DX12 Ultimate games come to the fore, and that's before DLSS is considered.
Expect DLSS to become mainstream very quickly from now on.
Yeah, I was betting on that when I bought a 2080 for $900 instead of buying 1080 Ti used for $800+ (outrageous). But still, instead of reducing price of 1000 cards, NVIDIA decided to keep the price/performance and add a new price tier. $1200 1080Ti was decent, $2000 2080Ti is totally out of reach for most sane builds. I seriously hope they won't pull that same trick with 3000 series. AMD need to bring competition to the top end range to keep Nvidia from price creeping too far.
@Kingduytan: Sorry I should have corrected this the first time: the 1080Ti was introduced at the previous price point of the 1080, so you've got it backwards in terms of pricing strategy. That happened in a period where there were large advances in silicon yields on 16nm, a huge ramp in manufacturing volumes, and slowing sales in their professional/server products (that used the GP102 in the 1080Ti).
That's unlikely to happen again this time, because the GA102 is likely to be 33% larger on a more expensive process (though the wafer cost is probably closer than it would have seemed even 12 months ago). I'm not sure they're going to perfect yields fast enough for that to change dramatically in a further 12 months times when you'd typically see a refresh.
Count on a 3080 and 3060 Super IMO, but everything else is up in the air, entirely dependent on GDDR6X memory clocks in launch products, and the professional/server markets demand for the full GA102/GA104/GA106 dies.
Sounds like RTX 3000 aint gonna be cheaper like for like.. RTX 3080 is rumoured to be double what RTX 2080 was.
I have a feeling the going to release their whole product stack from top to bottom… RTX 3060 will be RTX 2080 Super performance is my guess… but guess what the RTX 3060 will prob be $900 AU
Not sure where you're getting your info from, but the 3080 is rumoured to be a 68 SM cutdown from an 84 SM chip.
So while that it would be more than double the same size on the same silicon node, this node is 2.5-2.7 times more dense if they go the same route as the GA100.
NVIDIA should be able to make the economics work to deliver a USD $600-$700 card at launch for the 3080.
Your 3060 prediction is total bullshit however, and has no grounding in reality given the market segment their xx60 cards target.
I'm speculating from an article online and yes take it with a grain of salt. Theres one popping up every 12hrs
Benchmark the step up then what an RTX3070 = RTX 2080 SUper in normal graphics perf?
I dont see why the 3060 couldnt get a performance boost to the 2080S level
@sn00kered: You're way off base. Should be a 60-90% improvement over Turing in straight raster performance, save for maybe the 2080Ti vs the 3080Ti (this will be pushing the economical limits of the silicon), then 3-4x in raytracing and an additional 2x for DLSS.
3060 will cruise past the the 2080S, at the very least through DLSS. All on a cutdown version of a smaller chip than the TU106.
@jasswolf: Has that ever been the case in a new Gen of late? I know everyone wants that, but realistically we are going to see 25 to 30 percent increases.
Check out moores law is dead for some good analysis
@badonde: Yeah realistically getting 2080S performance for a little less than the price of a 2070S sounds reasonable but I'm not sure that they would name the GPU the 3060. xx60 GPUs have historically been around $200, even though it's just a name it sounds ridiculous to have an xx60 cost that much.
@badonde: Literally every other generation other than Turing, and even that was only at launch. The xx60 bracket has targeted a standard performance increment for a long time, which is how the 2060 wound up being so expensive: they crammed the RTX features and a 70% performance boost over the 1060 on what was almost exactly the same silicon process.
This time around, the process is 2.5x more dense, and what they're delivering in SM and architectural changes isn't as massive. Silicon wafer costs would be a little more expensive than Pascal due to slightly larger dies, but the VRAM costs and board costs should be mostly lower, save for the HDMI ports due to moving to HDMI 2.1.
The 3050 through to 3080 should all be relatively normally prices (with the 3060 around USD $300, perhaps as low as $250), while the top tier GA102 (3090, Titan or 3080Ti) will be at least as expensive as the 2080Ti. There might even be a raytracing card or two below the 3050 (3030 anyone), but they will be more expensive than such previous budget cards due to minimum performance requirements for raytracing. They'll exist as a basis for NVIDIA to deliver RTX to every PC it can, and serve as a template for their future MX series successor on 5nm (their smallest dGPU chips used in laptop configurations).
They went from 'more than 10 available' to having none… And they didn't sell any.
Sorry guys!
Not your fault, should’ve gotten in quick before SE discovered if you were looking to buy one. Chances it will be relisted at a jacked price. We should all report the listing when it happens
I'm personally waiting for the 3000 series, but one of my mates has been looking for a 2070s for a while.
I gave him 5 minutes before posting here, but he missed out as well haha
missed out :(
The store has nothing listed now. Really weird.
Probably forgot they were part of this promo. Quickly yanked all their listings and will slowly relist them at jacked up prices
I imagine a "Kill all items" panic button customised just for them.
Lol
I bought my MSI Trio X 2070s in March for $760. They'll come back down but you're definitely paying covid-19 marked up prices pre-3000 series release. If you can wait, I'd hope the 2000 series stuff comes back down with the new releases but given the damage the pandemic has done, we very well might see 2000s stay the same and 3000s go even higher.
I feel like we're trying to read the bloody market with all the rise and fall of prices lately.
man i missed out on that price as well. Have been waiting patiently for the price to drop. Cheapest for that model on previous deal was $960+ now has gone up to 1k+. :(
2000 prices may not normalise with where they should be in the product cycle, but 3000 will be just fine. Remember that stock is limited right now, and freight costs are up. Freight costs should not be much of a factor in pricing going forward, and GPU prices should go down a little overall, but there won't be many huge bargains for the 2000 series before it goes EoL.
If you have a working GPU, or you're satisfied with waiting at least 3 months, the focus right now should be on the 3000 series.
Ebay Plus is a massive rort.
How's Galax compared to the likes of Gigabyte, Asus, MSI, EVGA?
Galax's always much cheaper compared to other brands.
The base models (this one) have smaller heatsinks. If you're worries about thermals get the EX version or higher.
oh what does EX mean? thanks
The model above this with a bigger heatsink
Thermals yes, but main concern is their reliability. Any comments? Cheers!
I bought a base galax 2060S and I'm in the process of RMAing it right now for a rattling fan. Only a few weeks old. Other than that it's been ok. I guess you get what you pay for.
@mordinhoz: That's why reading reviews that also covers build quality, thermals, fan noise level beside performance and price, helps in the decision making and spending $20-$30 more is sometimes worth it. Thermal performance is even more important in SFF build due to the small air volume. I considered Galax but finally settled on an Asus RTX 2070 for a higher price.
@viirgon: Yeah I bought the super gaming x 2070 super to replace the card lol
I bought a 1060 during mining boom to tie me over to the 20xx series… They were a let down so I waited for the Super variants.. but heard about the 30xx variants moving to 7nm.. so I waited.. but then bought a 34" 120hz Ultra-wide 1440p screen… And now I'm fcked with 30 fps on CoD.
So what do I do… I choose to wait for the 30xx but buy the AOC 24G2 to tie me over.
Then this deal appeared and I thought… NO MORE WAITING..
Still waiting.
Get a 5700xt
Not enough juice, would defs need to upgrade within a year.
I'd wait for the next gen cards dropping soon.
But if buying now, a Sapphire Pulse 5700XT with Trixx Boost is a really good buy.
https://www.pcworld.com/article/3431151/sapphire-pulse-rx-57…
Just dial down the resolution/graphics until you can upgrade the GPU to increase the FPS.
Tried, even OC'd GPU. Got an unstable 52 fps.
I'm getting 60-80FPS in COD MW with a rx580 3440*1440 but setting the render resolution to 75% and mostly low settings of course
That's why ebay plus is shit now
Agreed those 10 to 15% site wide deals are long gone
what graphics card should a $1200 build get? for a decent overall mid-range gaming experience? games are not too heavy, mostly pubg, cs go, and dota 2. If you're in a good mood, might as well throw in the whole package suggestion :) CPU, RAM, MB, GPU, and PSU :) Thanks.
As a rough guide, as GPU is the most important performance factor, allocate 35-40% of the budget to it and then pair it with a comparable mobo, cpu, psu and the rest of the budget for ram, storage, case. You can find ideas on YouTube for budget builds.
Very depends on what monitor resolution you want to play with?
RTX 2060 should be fine for mid range.
I agree. I started my mini-ITX upgrade by getting the LG 27GL850 which is a 1440p/144Mhz monitor and then upgrading the rest to support gaming at 1440p, starting with the GPU. If your goal is 1080p gaming, your budget is workable.
it's in stock now, GO GO GO
And it’s been jacked.
Looks like they relisted it and then jacked it (as expected). The sold list show 2 people were able to get it at the deal price
Dirty bastards put price back down after the Promo code ended lol
So frustrating…
Looks like they pulled the listing.