First Post. Had my eye on this considering my recent change to the new 1000/50 on HFC connection.
Just so opened to be on sale @ Scorptec, still it has been MUCH cheaper on previous deals on Ebay plus but that was just before COVID-19 happened.
Think its the only sale for UDM in Aus at the moment too.
Save around $50?
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yes, i would also be interested in a good deal on a UDM pro
i was looking at usg and cloudkey, but the UDM pro will also faster speeds with ips on
useful , as im looking to upgrade my internet connection
Can someone through some light on the benefits of this router compare to the regular ones? Util now, I'm considering Google Nest
It's white with a blue LED
sounds worth the upgrade :)
Well, you've seen some routers out there that look like the Predator barfed on a pile of antennae
It all comes down to what you want. In all honestly if you aren't planning on more than the one device you should stick with their Amplifi range. It is much better suited for that with maybe a mesh point or two.
The advantage of the UDM is that it is the first part of an eco-system you would use. You get a UDM and then a couple of other AP's (whether cabled or not). For example if you get a UDM and then a USW Flex Mini a good review here (https://www.eduitguy.com/2020/04/20/usw-flex-mini-tiny-beast…) having a UDM with built in controller gives you options to expand.
With a UDM you could add a bunch of other switches and AP's to your network controlled from the UDM. The Amplifi only allows a few extra mesh points.
Then Google Nest, it won't help you if you want to control internet and wireless and wired from one place The Google Nest is just AP… their only help guide says to add ports by any old switch. With that any old switch you can't see or control what you are doing with said ports. With a UDM you can VLAN Control who can see what.
This or pfsense ?
this if you want something that just works out of the box. pfsense from my experience required more fiddling around with to get it perfect + finding a suitable piece of hardware for it.
Pfsense is only a router/firewall so I guess it would depend on if you need the extra switched ports and WiFi access or not.
Over 500 bucks for a router seems expensive… how do these compare to Asus routers likes asus rt88u, rt86u etc.
UDM has a Security Gateway (firewall) integrated into it which can cost a bit on it's own and many great features. UDM is a great entry networking device, one stop shop. Router, Decent WIFI AP and Firewall.
I am unsure if the other ASUS routers you listed have an integrated firewall but that may be where the price discrepancy lies from the UDM and ASUS routers you listed.
Thanks for an update. Must be more to it though, many routers have physical firewall. Could be Mesh vs MIMO. 2GB RAM is a lot.
Looks like a decent router, pity no USB.
I have an RT AC88U and also a UniFi USG (Firewall/Router) plus UniFlex HD AP. Both are used at work sites. The ASUS I find has much better thoroughput, and great features. Along with a built in firewall, Intrusion Prevention System and Deep Packet Inspection, and other Ai Commercial grade protection features. The UniFi system is a bit expensive but I find it great for guest networks. Thoroughput does reduce on the USG to 85mbps on the ethernet side of things though. Captive Portal, VLANs, Token expiry - this is where UniFi shines. Otherwise, I am quite happy with the ASUS reliability, features and protection.
I wouldn’t bother with UniFi for the home unless I had some extreme networking organisation requirements, the ASUS is more than enough customisable, capable, and can be flashed with Merlin for even more features.
the asus ones are pretty good for home use with the features they have but the ubiquiti stuff is for enterprise/enthusiast level. depends what your networking situation is.
They do something things better, and more of integrated hardware. They also don't do things that ASUS or basic consumer routers do, like real time user usage tracking. Which is quite annoying.
What's best mesh system that I can control the bandwidth/QOS for $300-$400?
If I plug a router into an edgerouter x would it be seen as 1 IP etc?
Mesh systems have normal, gaming, streaming QoS profiles, a priority device for set time or dynamic QoS. Do you want manual QoS controls?
Why do you want to you plug a router into a edgerouter?
Ah getting complicated haha, I basically don't want my gaming to lag on the 100/40mbps nbn connection when someone in the house watches movies and uploads large files (think the latter causes ping spikes more than anything).
What are you using right now?
@POSITIVEVIBESONLY: Netgear R7000 but was thinking of going Google wifi (original).
But I only activated Dynamic QOS yesterday (thought I did it previously).
AmpliFi HD by Ubiquiti Labs.
@Twix: Yeah was looking into that, but is a single unit enough to power my double storey house? Might have to buy an addition meshpoint HD (rather than $600 for the whole 3 piece).
@RtN: If you can place the AmpliFi HD close to the center of the house yeah it's possible. AmpliFi has permanent normal, gaming and streaming QoS profiles.
Google Wifi can only set a priority device for 1, 2 or 4 hours.
I'm thinking of changing up my router to the google wifi. Currently my router struggles to hold connection on the 2.4GHz network with it being super slow like 1mb/s even close to the router but seems to have full speedson the 5GHz. This is my router https://www.asus.com/au/Networking/RTN66U/. Do you think getting something new will fix my problems?
Google Wifi or Google Nest Wifi?
What ISP?
A new router should help. ASUS RT-N66U has had a good run and was released in 2012.
@Twix: Google Nest Wifi. I'm with AussieBroadband with 100/20plan.
I don't understand why the 2.4Ghz on the ASUS RT-N66U isn't getting higher speeds, it's been used for like 6years now.
@POSITIVEVIBESONLY: Aussie sell Google Nest Wifi at a discount :-)
Yeah I'm not sure what's up with the 2.4Ghz without testing it.
Thanks for this :) .. I almost pressed the trigger on this yesterday from these guys. Grabbed it this morning.
Awesome! No worries at all, glad I can save you a lot of pennies :)
I bought the UDM in a pre-covid deal, upgrading from USG, US-8 and nanoHD and I have to admit I'm loving it.
I've since introduced another UAP for meshing and that's also been pretty seemless.
My only beef with the UDM is that it's only 4 port and doesn't have PoE if you wanted to wall mount a couple of UAPs.
I just wish I was FTTP so I could upgrade to 1000/50 or 250/100.
How did you find the meshing on the UAP? Was it done wirelessly?
I did it with the UniFi app. From memory it was as easy as opening the app to find the fresh UAP and just pressed “adopt”. Was magic.
Also yes it was done wirelessly :)
How are you finding the speeds?
@nedski: I'm only on 100/40 but it seems to work pretty good throughout the house. The places where I really need the throughput are in my office where the UDM is so naturally those devices are connected by Ethernet. I haven't really done any speed tests.
You're going to have major congestion problems with a gigabit router and gigabit internet.
You need 2.5G or 10G interfaces (which is expensive, probably best making a PC into a router if you have the technical ability from a cost point of view).
Also you probably need a SATA SSD for downloads. There are HDD that can keep up with 100MB/s but they are noisy.
I would suggest going with a USG, Flex Mini, and UAP (AC-Lite). I'm using that set up for my NBN FTTC connection and works really well.
if I were to do a basic setup would USG and Flex mini be similar in terms of what they do?
USG handles the routing and firewall. Flex mini handles the wifi.
USG - Routing/firewall
Flex Mini - 4 port switch (no POE)
UAP Ac-lite - Wireless Access point (powered via a POE adapter)
I bought my Ubiquiti gear from UBWH
Derp I was thinking about the FlexHD for wifi.
Flex mini handles extra ethernet cabled devices*
Each to their own dude. I had a USG, US-8-60W and a nanoHD; technically better and cleaner than your setup. I still prefer the UDM. It’s more powerful, too, so if you want IPS/IDS over 85mbps then go UDM.
don't you have to manage this Unifi Dream Machine [UDM], via the cloud?
or a smartphone app?
isn't that letting Ubiquiti know about your internal network 'habits' ?
Yeah UI.com account login or the UniFi Network mobile app. When setup is complete you can connect over your local network. UI account supports two factor authentication.
If you want turn off this setting during setup.
Send Diagnostics & Performance Information
that alone, put me off the UDM.
i don't trust logging into UI.com or to use the smartphone app.
that will tie their device ID to you.
although you may not send diagnostic / performance information,
you don't know what else it does send after it's tied to your identity.
Just weighing in on the Dream Machine as I purchased one recently. It's okay for the price, however, the Ubiquiti Alien has be released and this will satisfy those wanting Wifi 6 support. https://amplifi.com/alien
Alien has not been released locally, the software is different and doesn't run on UniFi OS like the UDM. About the most you can do with AmpliFi products is port forward, DHCP server and set static IPs. It's good for those who want something that works well and don't want to play with much networking settings.
UniFi wifi 6 APs are in the works :-)
Thanks OP, grabbed one.
Thanks heap OP!! I've been on the hunt for a new WiFi setup with Ubiquiti.
But also amazing to know I can add other AP's to this, given that there's a PoE Adapter.
Any deals on UDM pro?