My heart is breaking after seeing people losing their job and started looking for another one.
Airline crews are losing theirs for up to 8 months. Restaurant maybe open for take away only, waiters are jobless. Other businesses are depending on people with a party/event coming up.
So far supermarket jobs are the winners here. And they are hiring through agency. Not sure which.
I wish you all good luck there. Hope virus vaccine will be ready soon.
Yeah but how is it any different to if they lost their jobs 6 months ago?
You’re comparing $1400 (post tax) to $1240 (pre tax) and thinking you’re only earning an extra $160 a week?
I seriously can’t believe reading the people who seem to believe that everyone on Newstart (or Job Seeker or whatever they’re calling it now) are all ‘dole bludgers’ who are living the high life on that massive ~$280 a week previously. I’m sure for the majority of us that wouldn’t even cover our mortgage repayments.
In the 2018/19 budget, $10.6 billion was given to welfare receipts and the sick whilst an estimated $12 billion given to the fossil fuel industry***.
But everyone on welfare are clearly all rorting the system..
***haven’t verified the FF industry figures myself, just the quickest estimation I could find in comparison.
So in actuality it's like 250$ instead if 160$. Is it a dramatic enough difference to go for working from 0 hours to 80 hours?
mine ok for now, wife already stood down
Secured. Work in tertiary education
Not so secure then.
Depends where in tertiary education.
Not guaranteed but work for a good company that has enough money to see this through.
How long is this?
Somewhat secure - Moving my side gig from in person adult entertainment to online. I think demand will increase in this area with all the people being locked down.
Camgirl?
Comedian with NSFW material
I'm not at work so hit me with your best joke.
@MS Paint: I got one, I got one.
Have you heard of MS Paint got married?
She is called Mrs Paint now.
hahaha underrated
Until the disposable income dries up anyway.
I am fortunate enough to be self employed in an area that is possibly going to be hit as people run out of money but demand is higher in the short term. Luckily I take money from across the world so that will hopefully even out the monetary hit a bit.
Ok I'll bite - whats the area?
Webcam girl
Webcam man?
Going by his comment count of 18k - I think he owns a comic book store
i paint houses. no one wants us in there house until the virus is gone.
Repurpose one of those spinning garden Twizzlers watering things to spit out paint instead. Set it up in the middle of a room, cover all the surfaces you don't want painted, and voila Bob's your uncle.
Reminds me of the Mr Bean method
His method's a little more… explosive.
like in The Irishman?
Public servant but in an area that may be redirected to health, centrelink etc etc…. Not 100% on the future..
I have been unhappy with my job for a while, but after hearing about how many people are losing theirs I am happy just to have one that is pretty secure (In fact this situation has made me busier)
i wonder what it is?
I work for a toilet paper company so I guess my job is pretty secure.
no sheeeet!!
Sheet job but somebody has to do it..
You guys are on a roll
After people panic buy the demand suddenly drop. It would get back to normal.
The panic is never going to stop, it is the new normal.
i don't think so, will come back in 2 months.
After people have all stocked up and they will wipe more ass and shxt more?
Watch out for thieves
NSW Police are appealing for help in finding two men who they want to speak to in relation to a brazen act of toilet paper theft.
Police release image of two men as part of investigation into toilet paper theft
Toilet roll can be a great gift idea for birthday party. Don't you think? A bigger pack one will be nicer.
Secured but I'm just in my 2nd week of work, they can terminate me at any time. The industry is online so the CEO said staff is safe and they reported an increase of sales. But who knows…..
Work in a car dealership. After a torturous 2019 we had a great start to 2020 until this shit.
Everyone is freaking out because most staff get over 50% of their salary from commissions and if we get shut down then we can't sell. That leaves us in the lovely zone of earning min wage but not actually having our hours impacted so not eligible for any government help.
Delightful.
I'm the lucky one that makes sure all the medical equipment and other infrastructure is working. My job is secure, but the risk of contracting COVID-19 is also much higher :/
no pain no gain
I think OzBargain, aka OzDeskJockey, is the worst place to ask this question to get a statistical understanding of social effects.
Today a crap tonne of people just lost their jobs or hours in the hospitality industry. And beyond that industry, almost everyone I know that works for themselves on short-term projects/tasks has already seen a drop-off in booked clients.
And the word job doesn't often appreciate the gig economy as a member. Many sudden winners but a lot more losers.
But I'm interested to know what's going to happen to all the international students and working holiday makers that make up the bulk of disposable employees in Sydney's East. We all know that many of them never actually had the (now) $21,000 plus course fees a year to study here to begin with.
We all know that many of them never actually had the (now) $21,000 plus course fees a year to study here to begin with.
To be fair, 'most' of them never had any intention to study or work in skill shortage sectors either. The visa just allowed them to be here, have fun, go to the beach and later explore the options to settle down if they wished to. I doubt if they should be complaining considering all their seriousness about getting education and/ or saving money for the hard times that may come anytime.
Hope the government can create virus vaccine
Government? Create?
Lol.
Universities get government funding, do they not?
And CSIRO is a government agency…
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-02-22/coronavirus-vaccine-a…
"We will be going into our first animal studies at the University of Queensland this week, to be followed not long after [by] studies at the Australian Animal Health laboratories at the CSIRO in Geelong."
I suppose if we broaden the scope to include institutions funded by government, sure.
The idea that governments create is akin to claiming the US government created the atom bomb (Oppenheimer et Al did) or that Centrelink facilitated the Lindt cafe siege (Man Haron Monis did).
You certainly are strange character :)
A bit of confusion. Fixed. Thanks.
Fairly safe I think. Work in marketing for a small agency. Some clients have paused (Beauticians, Motorcycle Sales) while our Solar client is seeing record numbers & increasing their advertising budget.
Husband and I are about as good as you can hope for but no such thing as a secure job in these times.
Feeling so bad everywhere I look around people losing jobs on top of many still dealing with impact of the fires.
Yea this. Everyone thinks their job is secure until a depression hits. I have a full time salary position, but my role is pretty superfluous to the organisation. If it gets really bad I don't see how they could justify keeping me but thankfully we're not there at the moment.
Healthcare worker in a publicly owned facility would be pretty secure… financially if not health-wise.
Hope the government can create virus vaccine soon as possible.
Not the govt. Scientists are the real mvps.
Lost mine..
Pharmacy.
I think mine's secure.
the job is secure, but you are not. godspeed.
I see what you did there.
i did not
Lost mine. Didn't know what poll option to pick, but the feedback loop of people losing jobs / no one spending money / more jobs being lost makes me think I'm not getting re-employed (at least not full time) for the foreseeable future.
There is an interesting side-effect of having "permanent jobs", and that is the skill dilution effect. The average employee in corporations and especially government agencies are mediocre and inefficient because the top talent pool is spread out. For any job application, a successful applicant may be perceived as the "best available" for that intake, but they are unlikely to be particularly innovative or efficient when the unemployed are low in number and yearly job switching is discouraged (both socially and economically). Applying for jobs has instead been translated into a self-marketing exercise to deceive a series of HR personnel and job interviewers.
If a huge population of people becomes unemployed, the potential talent pool that can excel with training would rise dramatically. However, if the number of available positions are finite, and the jobs aren't split into part-time roles just to keep people employed, the only way these talented people have a chance of overtaking the mediocre is by enforcing periodic redundancy.
The advantage of this is that you may actually end up with a higher proportion of brilliant minds working on governmental initiatives, or at innovative startups, and everyone may benefit "overall". The catch being a persistent, unemployed under-class.
The Great Depression of the 1930s co-incided with a fascist uprising in Europe, leading to the mass migration of scientists to the US. This factor, combined with its economic predominance following the first world war, led to the US becoming a scientific powerhouse. They went from backwards to innovative once it's mediocre weren't leading the show.
But today, no one knows what the right solution would be if you want your efforts to be sustainable some decades from now. Denmark has taken the approach to save the status quo by freezing the country for at least 3 months. If a company tries to fire someone due to lack of work, the government is paying up to 75% of the wages of employees for them to sit at home and wait out the lockdown. The question is whether the companies will ever recover should the increasingly interconnected world not.
Registered Nurse here. So I am secure and being asked to do additional days for corona hotlines.
thank you
Thanks for your service :-)
Very secure but draining. Medicine. Less time to ozbargain as everyone here has a role to play even when we're off the frontline, cross deployment into other areas etc to help with the community. Pay is good though and helps me up my donations to those more needy.
I do feel immensely for those not so fortunate but take the time to upskill or make the most of the quiet period. The economy will eventually pick up at some stage and you want a head start when that happens.
take the time to upskill or make the most of the quiet period
Nailed it. Too many people are static in their careers, refuse to take risks or grow, then complain that they're dispensible when hard times come.
The same rules still apply. Make yourself indispensable.
No one is indispensable. I’ve seen guys who directly made tens of millions of dollars in fees for their company being let go because someone didn’t like them. The only thing that up saves you is FU money.
The grave yard is full of indispensable people.
@SlabOz How do you do it?
Safe. Company has everyone working from home and even has new positions advertised.
Telstra?
No, they're not the only company with the above scenario. I work in the finance sector.
I work in the finance sector.
That explains SO much
@Kangal: I wouldn't say finance is the only industry still doing OK. Plenty of other sectors doing good.
Check the new positions - I'd say just like my company most if not all of them are now being hit by hiring freezes
My guess is debt recovery.
Our jobs are secure but if things get bad , my wife would want to go back home to help rebuild her country and the whole family will go with her. Not sure what life post-covid19 is going to be like in Mauritius.
sorry to hear that loss loss situation
Thank you. My wife can work remotely and I've accepted a very generous re-training package from my employer pre-covid19.we might also be able to take some of our super with us when we leave. We'll be OK.
But yes, it is a lose-lose situation for everyone :(
Made redundant 2 weeks ago, engineer, should be back in work once this all blows over
ISP industry, not sure how secure we are, but hopefully with the increased demand for work-from-home, or people staying at home more in general, maybe it will be a boom for our industry?
gotta feel bad for other industries though, got friends who works for the airport/airlines who have already lost their job, went to my usual cafe today and it was empty due to the new laws, only one person was working instead of the usual 4, I bought an extra pastry and a cookie on top of my usual coffee, I know it will make SFA difference, but did what I could to help out.
I've been waiting 10 days for my ISP to fix my ADSL connection, so I imagine there's a big enough workload to keep everyone employed
I'm in the same boat. I also work for an ISP. I think (hope) we will be fine. With everyone working from home our queues have been busier than ever!
Delivery contractor. So not safe at all.
I can see deliveries staying as an essential service - at least it has in other countries. It might depend on which company you contract to but even in the worst scenarios you might be requisitioned to delivery emergency food and medical supplies
Definitely essential in my books.
If no one is allowed to congregate and travel, you guys will keep the country running.
I'm in aged care and we still need deliveries to run like clock work - a pandemic doesn't mean we stop caring for residents.
If anything our deliveries have actually increased due to the need to stockpile whatever PPE we can get our hands on and extra IT equipment to allow residents to remain in touch with the world and their relatives.
Partner finished up yesterday. I manage a nfp disability enterprise.. I would say we have about another 4 days and that's it. No cash to pay entitlements.
How are businesses suddenly out of money after just a few weeks of drastic slowdown? Is it because its NFP?
Lots of nfp are poorly managed. I have a forced 4 day week, basically a 20% pay cut. Next round of restrictions will be a a death blow.. Hope we all get back to normal soon. Sooner we stay at home and get this shit over with the better
I work IT Engineering for a school network. It should be secure, but I started less than 2 months ago. So far we're still working in the office which has got to be positive.
A in demand role. I'll assume your working on ICT projects at a private school?
still working in the office
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positive.
Can't you guys work from home?
Can we - 100%
Are we allowed too? Well as of yesterday yes.
Except thousands of people been let go around the same time and companys closing so its much harder to find work now.