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Combining Type-C and iSmart USB outputs, the RAVPower Wall Charger is the ultimate charging solution. The USB C Power Delivery recharges your 2015 13”MacBook in only 3 hours with up to 45W of power; while the iSmart 2.0 ports adjust to connected devices and output up to 2.4A each.

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Living out of a suitcase for work or leisure? The universal 100V-240V AC input works worldwide so you need to pack only one charger for all your devices.

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RAVPower has made a name for itself for safer, more effective charging solutions. Our latest wall charger is no different with safeguards for overcharge, short-circuit, over-voltage, and overheating.

What’s In The Box:

1 x RAVPower USB-C PD Wall Charger (Model: RP-PC081)
1 x AU Plug Adapter
1 x User Guide

AC Input: 100-240V-50/60HZ-1.2A (MAX)
Type-C Output: : 5V/3A,9V/3A,12V/3A,15V/3A,20V/2.25A （PD 45W MAX）
USB-A Output: 3.6-6V/3A,6-9V/2A,9-12V/1.5A 18WMAX (support PD/QC3.0/QC2.0/FCP/PE2.0/SFCP MAX 18W)
Total Output: 45W (MAX)
Product Size: 676730.5mm
Housing:Injectedplastic housing
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Overcharge protection
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Over-current protectionShort-circuit protection

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netsurfer on 16/03/2020 - 14:38

+3

Need clarification on what actually happens when both ports are in used. You have 45W max on USB-C and 18W max on USB-A, but total max being 45W.

While all these new dual ports offering quick charge on both ports seem attractive at first, too many of them (at least majority of them) use single chip design. As such, when running with both ports, a lot of them run in very conservative 5V only modes on both, with QC/PD functions disabled.

At this price, it "could" be possible that this is dual chips, but until that is confirmed, I prefer to be cynical about this.
- 0jay on 16/03/2020 - 14:51
  
  I don’t have a meter but I can charge a powerbank that accepts 60W and an iPad pro at very near full speed with the 65W variant.
  - netsurfer on 16/03/2020 - 15:06
    
    Were you using iPad Pro and charging at the same time? Did you time how long it took to charge? It's best that iPad Pro was below 50% charged initially.
    Prefer the rep to clarify. Otherwise, prefer results from running through two meters concurrently.
    
    The issue is 45 + 18 = 63. If the max this thing can do is 45W, what actually happens in dual port charging mode? USB-C port reduces current? USB-A port reduces current? Even if this is dual chips, how do they communicate when both ports are in used?
    
    If your powerbank can actually charge at 60W, and you have the 65W version. In dual port charging mode, you do the maths: 65 - 60 = 5. 5W means 5V@1A on the USB-A port. I doubt the charger will operate like that in dual port mode. Most cheapo ones just switch to 5V 2.4A on both ports. This one could do better, but maths wise, you know you cannot have the cake and eat it in dual port mode. It's good to know what you lose in dual port mode.
    - 0jay on 16/03/2020 - 16:53
      
      +1
      
      Can’t confirm, don’t have a meter, didn’t time it. Pro is charging from the A port and not in use. The powerbank definitely takes 60W.
      
      I’m aware of the math, all I can tell y is they both charge at a fair clip.
      
      Pretty sure the pro wouldn’t take a charge at 5W much less charge at any reasonable rate.
      - netsurfer on 16/03/2020 - 18:27
        
        @0jay: You were using devices which do not provide charging mode information. The 5V 2.4A charging mode isn't that bad. Also, towards the end, device charging do drop to lower current.
        
        Don't forget, the fallback mode of 24W when both ports are used for single chip dual port chargers is still reasonable (especially if 1 of the devices is an Apple device).
        
        You've got to ask yourself this question: when pretty much every other maker is doing single chip glue and go, why would they do dual chips and then choke the max current with dual chips?
        
        0jay on 16/03/2020 - 18:40
        
        @netsurfer: I’m not speculating re board design. Just saying a 26800mAh bank that charges from spent to full in a little over an hour on it’s own, still fills in about the same period with an iPad pro on the A port.
        
        Agree th 12W rate is not bad and it may well be what the ipad is using, either way that’s my experience.
        
        BTW Sobre are pretty responsive to enquiries and seem to have a good knowledge of their products, might be worth asking them.
        
        netsurfer on 16/03/2020 - 18:49
        
        @0jay: Which device did you connect to USB-A during the test? Assuming the 65W version is also USB-C and USB-A ports. Whichever device was connected to USB-A couldn't be charging at optimal fast charge rate.
        
        In order to properly fast charge iPad Pro, you must use USB-C/USB-PD. Assuming the 65W is the same setup, where USB-C/PD is the mode that actually reaches 65W, you need your power bank to connect to USB-C/PD. If you connected the iPad Pro to USB-A port, it can at best do 5V/2.4A anyway.
        
        To be honest, you don't have the right devices/setup to test USB-C/USB-A combination.
        
        0jay on 16/03/2020 - 19:06
        
        @netsurfer: Yeah aware of that, ipad only fast charges on C, it was plugged to A as I said earlier.
        
        The powerbank only charges on C and it is a PD device so pretty sure it can negotiate voltage and current.
        
        The 65W unit charges on the C port at 60W max.
        
        netsurfer on 16/03/2020 - 19:52
        
        @0jay: The problem is that you are not fast charging the iPad Pro using USB-C/PD so it essentially falls to 5V/2.4A mode. In that mode, it is not doing any QC (and since it is USB-A, it cannot possibly do USB-PD). Essentially, your test did not stress the USB-A port enough.
        
        It defeats the purpose of true dual ports as you sacrifice your iPad Pro's charging speed. Honestly, unlike iPhone 8/X/XS/11, USB-PD on iPad Pro does make sense. Furthermore, there's the issue that 65 - 12 = 53. At best, you can only get 53W (and there is really no such mode in USB-PD so it has to drop further down - and no, let's not kid ourselves here, this charger doesn't support USB-PD/PPS, only PDO).
        
        So the bottom line is we do not know whether it is possible for this to do QC2/3 + USB-PD on both ports. Also, when both are in use, the max current and voltage on each port. At 65W, you cannot have 60 + 12 (that's 72).
        
        Quoting OP's description:
        
        while the iSmart 2.0 ports adjust to connected devices and output up to 2.4A each
        
        Based on that, we know that at best, even in the dream scenario, the PD port would drop its max output and 45W is not possible when using both ports (that makes sense anyway). The 2.4A is really worrying because far too many of those devices automatically fallback to 5V/2.4A in dual port mode.
        
        I'd rather point out the worst case scenario so that if people still feel that's worth it at this price, then go for it.
        
        0jay on 16/03/2020 - 20:36
        
        @netsurfer: Dude, I’ve said I have no meter and that I didn’t use a stopwatch. From there you can conclude I do not have a hardon for spec crunching. I’ve said I know that th ipad is not fast charging and that it’s likely souping at 12W.
        
        What I can tell you is I have 90 minute windows to recharge, hence me buying the powerbank I have. I did not expect to charge both devices adequately from the same adapter (the RavPower) in that timeframe and yet I have discovered I can leave my seperate 12W adapter in the car.
        
        This is obviously anecdotal, your needs and expectations may differ from mine. What I can tell you is this adapter has exceeded my expectations and can charge my easter island powerbank and the ipad in my 90 minute window.
        
        If you can’t take any value from that then move along, I can’t help you, speak to the vendor or manufacturer.
        
        netsurfer on 16/03/2020 - 21:28
        
        @0jay: You wrote:
        
        I don’t have a meter but I can charge a powerbank that accepts 60W and an iPad pro at very near full speed with the 65W variant.
        
        That was an incorrect assessment because a USB-A cable and the USB-A port was used. Furthermore, it appears that Apple have done what most Android makers have done. If you elected to not use QC2/QC3 or USB-C/PD, the 5V could drop only to 1.4A (7.2A) - even if the charger is capable of 2.4A.
        
        https://www.inviolabs.com/blogs/news/new-ipad-pro2018-usb-c-…
        
        Go through that article, even at fast charge USB-PD, they cannot fully charge an iPad Pro 11 under 90 minutes, but you were able to do so in a slower charging mode.
        
        The issue is that this is now 2020 and I don't believe I am actually using all latest and greatest. My main phone is still only SD845 based (which only supports QC3). I do have MBP and iPad Pro. $35 charger and when using dual ports could fall down to 5V/2.4A in which none of my devices will actually go for that mode.
        
        You need to let me know why pointing out both ports fall down to 2.4A mode (with high chance of just 5V) is an issue. I have pointed this out on many chargers.
        
        The issues are:
        
        Apple and Android makers already starting to implement QC2/QC3/QC4 or USB-PD by dropping 5V/2-2.4A mode. It's not pleasant, but let's give them the benefit of doubt and guess they prefer to drop the current for perhaps safety reason.
        
        Majority of these dual port charger makers simply use single chip glue and go design. It is essentially less work for them (except this one has 45W so chipset and the components are more expensive).
        
        Expecting two chips design is unrealistic. The cost is too high and so many consumers don't even notice this.
        
        Other adapters and reps at least have the guts to list out dual port mode specs in full. List them out. Don't just show the good side and conveniently (partially) avoid mentioning the inferior side.
        
        Honestly, at least the OP didn't over-hype this product on the USB-PD side. 3 hours on MBP 13 inch at 45W is reasonable. The results you quoted really gone against my experience on iPad Pro charging (using Apple cable and Apple fast charger), and Powerbank charging.
        
        0jay on 16/03/2020 - 21:31
        
        @netsurfer: Results I quoted? Seriously? What results would they be?
        
        You keep on about the ipad, the relevant point here is it can fill a 26800mAh powerbank and still top up an ipad pro. The powerbank’s the yardstick here, not the ipad which is largely soaking up the slack.
        
        You’re fixated on specs, email the vendor.
        
        netsurfer on 16/03/2020 - 21:36
        
        @0jay: Already answered this and that was the whole point of my previous reply:
        
        I don’t have a meter but I can charge a powerbank that accepts 60W and an iPad pro at very near full speed with the 65W variant.
        
        Also:
        
        Pro is charging from the A port and not in use
        
        I posted that article showing a big difference between USB-C/PD charging on iPad Pro vs USB-A charging (in which Apple decided to take away the 5V/2.1-2.4A mode).
        
        0jay on 16/03/2020 - 21:38
        
        @netsurfer: I have stated (several times) that I am aware usb c is required for fast charging. You’re talking to yourself.
        
        netsurfer on 16/03/2020 - 21:44
        
        @0jay: Mate, don't get upset because I pointed out some things about this charger.
        
        If you are an Apple user, you would actually want to move towards USB-C/PD (and forget about USB-A).
        
        This device makes sense for Android users.
        
        USB-A: 3.6-6V/3A,6-9V/2A,9-12V/1.5A 18WMAX (support PD/QC3.0/QC2.0/FCP/PE2.0/SFCP MAX 18W)
        
        USB-A doesn't support PD, but you look at the rest, you can easily tell this is catered for Android.
        
        So all this, I tested iPad Pro on USB-A and it is so great just doesn't make any sense.
        
        0jay on 16/03/2020 - 21:47
        
        @netsurfer: No. I charged a 26800mAh powerbank in less than an hour and a half and topped up my ipad.
        
        That’s my anecdote.
        
        netsurfer on 16/03/2020 - 21:39
        
        @0jay: Remember, you were the one who replied on my comment first. If you don't actually have correct information, just leave it and wait for OP/rep to reply.
        
        No point posting misinformation.
        
        0jay on 16/03/2020 - 21:40
        
        @netsurfer: Ha. I have posted anecdotal information, I made no claims relating to specs there is no misinformation, it’s my experience. Do you understand what anecdotal means?
        
        netsurfer on 16/03/2020 - 21:45
        
        @0jay: If you unintentionally posted incorrect information, at least have the guts to admit it and move on.
        
        0jay on 16/03/2020 - 21:49
        
        @netsurfer: Sorry, what’s incorrect?
        
        I’ve used this charger in this way, almost daily, for over three months.
        
        What’s my false information?
        
        netsurfer on 16/03/2020 - 21:48
        
        @0jay: I was originally hoping you could do some tests for us, but with your setup, we cannot figure out the actual specs in dual port mode accurately.
        
        Don't get so upset about it.
        
        0jay on 16/03/2020 - 21:50
        
        -1
        
        @netsurfer: Zero interest in doing tests for you or anyone tbh. As I said earlier I do not have a hardon for spec crunching.
        
        Very particular personality that does.
        
        I’m not upset but very intersted to know what my false claim is.
        
        netsurfer on 16/03/2020 - 22:11
        
        +1
        
        @0jay: You are clearly upset. My view on this device is:
        
        If you use it mostly for one port, it is fine.
        
        For android users, if QC3.0/QC2.0/FCP/PE2.0/SFCP is indeed true on USB-A, then we know this chipset is reasonably new-ish.
        
        The uncertainly on dual port mode is there, just like all the other 2 port chargers with similar specs in this class.
        
        I'm not interested in testing this charger (otherwise I would have bought one just to test it). The reason is that I've done enough testing on 3rd party chargers and cables. Apple devices are fussy on cables and chargers. Newer Android devices are too, but they generally tell you the charging mode (whether it is fast charging / charging rapidly). Even Amazon branded, USB-IF certified products are unsafe (they may not operate in PD mode consistently). Anker also made mistakes before.
        
        You get what you paid for. If you are used to the new Android QC2/3 and/or Apple USB-PD on iPad Pro, you will get annoyed when using this in dual port mode.
        
        0jay on 16/03/2020 - 22:19
        
        @netsurfer: Actually, if you have a PD device and a QC device with needs that don’t exceed 45W then this should be fine using both ports.
        
        Reviewing a device you have not used is ridiculous.
        
        netsurfer on 16/03/2020 - 22:48
        
        @0jay: We are going around in circles again. Unless you really test it with a QC device, you cannot state that.
        
        I did some investigation on iSmart 2.0 ports. It is something RAVPower introduced back in the days for 5V only chargers without QC support. RAVPower used iSmart 2.0 to denote that it can apply appropriate level of current (at 5V). In reality, it just means it support all 5V charging mode (yes, there are quite a few of them. Apple 12W chargers don't work well with some Android devices and older chargers can miss some of the 5V codes).
        
        To be fair, they are all like that at the moment. I have yet to find an exception. They need to because everyone else is doing the same. Dual chips + additional components double the cost. QC2/QC3/PD isn't that simple (especially PD).
        
        The bit that most people don't know is that QC2/3/USB-PD is rather complicated. When I used an USB-IF certified cable (Amazon Basics), Macbook Pro, Original Apple charger, I was shocked that it can at times not engage USB-PD (stucked in 5V mode) and yet the Macbook Pro still reports charging. Yes, the AmazonBasics USB-C/USB-C I bought was basically junk. Macbook Pro knows. There is negotiation involved constantly.
        
        0jay on 16/03/2020 - 22:53
        
        @netsurfer: Yeah that’s true, I havn’t tested it. I have another variant.
        
        You, however, made an authoritative statement about a device you’ve not used. Specs can only take you so far, there’s a reason the phrase ‘real world conditions’ has currency. Unless you have experience of a device, you can’t review it.
        
        I’m well over this damn conversation but you have been and continue to behave like an ass. Just wanted to point that out - don’t review a device you have no experience of. It’s cringingly stupid behaviour.
        
        netsurfer on 16/03/2020 - 23:56
        
        +1
        
        @0jay: I have a dual port charger which has a single QC/PD chip inside. That's why I want to let people know. I was careless and did not read the specs carefully.
        
        That's why I researched on the term iSmart 2.0.
        
        I have multiple USB-C and USB-A meters. When I plugged the second device into a similar charger, both meters immediately dropped to 5V only mode. Both meters have auto detect and all QC and USB-PD modes get wiped out in dual port mode.
        
        When you actually test chargers, powerbanks and cables using USB-A/C meters, you actually see a different picture. It's not just 45W or 65W (you never get the max anyway, no charger is 100% efficient). It is quite interesting that the original charger with seemingly inferior specs can often outperform a 3rd party charger with technically better specs. The phone, cable and charger negotiate on the current and voltage. I have a charger which supports all sorts of modes, but the current and voltage simply just not as clean as the original.
        
        Then, there is single port to dual ports and then back to single port. On some occasions, when going back to single port (from dual port mode), the QC2/3 doesn't re-engage. When I test 3rd party charging devices, I use original cables. It just doesn't feel good that to ensure proper reset, it is best to unplug the charger and plug it back in.
        
        Once you run tests with USB meters, you realise that your smartphones, tablets, laptops know and test/probe the cable and the charger. It doesn't blindly draw max current out.
        
        Powerbanks in passthrough mode… boy… that's another unpleasant combination for majority of powerbanks.
        
        0jay on 17/03/2020 - 00:10
        
        -1
        
        @netsurfer: You’re either a kid or you’re on the spectrum, mebbe both. Ima assume you’re a kid. A 26800mAh powerbank cannot charge from spent to full in a little over an hour unless it’s charging at close to it’s max charge capacity of 60W.
        
        If my charger is doing this I assume it’s charging at or close to it’s stated max charge rate of 60W at the C port.
        
        If I then plug an ipad into the A port and it continues to charge the bank at a comparable rate, with the ipad topping up at the same rate it does on its 12W Apple charger, then I think it’s safe to assume it’s charging at or close to 12W.
        
        Tests have shown that the 10.5” pros charged at very similar speeds on 12W adapters as 18W adapters btw.
        
        Have a good life, kid. I sure hope (fervently so), that I never have cause to engage with you again.
        
        netsurfer on 17/03/2020 - 00:55
        
        +1
        
        @0jay: Nice try, mate. 18W charger for iPad Pro, seriously? If you get this adapter or the 65W one, you would fast charge iPad Pro properly using USB-C/PD.
        
        2017 iPad Pro 10.5" charging result:
        
        Standard USB-C/PD
        
        0-50% 1 hr 33 m 42 m
        
        0-80% 2 hr 29 m 1 hr 18 m
        
        0-100% 3 hr 37 m 2 hr
        
        USB-PD offers 90 minutes advantage from 0-100%.
        
        You are the one behaving like a kid. iPad Pro's are more like laptops. Sure, you can charge your iPad Pro and your Powerbank overnight and they should fully charge. Or, if you charged them very often (i.e. charging them in 80-100% range a lot), the QC/PD advantage does disappear.
        
        Tell me which Powerbank you have.
        
        Also, there appears be at least 2 versions of the 65W charger. I suspect the older version may not support QC3 on USB-A ports. If so, that version is different to this 45W version. If you don't need QC3, that version might actually be better (the USB-A ports might not be wired to the QC/PD chip). The newer version is more likely to have the same issue with this 45W version (which appears newer). There really isn't a version that's better in every way. Each has its pros and cons.
        
        0jay on 17/03/2020 - 07:56
        
        @netsurfer: That’s C rainman, I’m using an A port
        
        netsurfer on 17/03/2020 - 08:55
        
        @0jay:
        
        I’m using an A port
        
        That's the main gripe with some, if not most of these chargers, powerbanks. Single chip, multi-port versions, even if the older ones have 5V only ports might be somewhat better in dual port mode, you can simply only use 5V on the USB-A port.
        
        For dual chip powerbanks, you either get a compromised passthrough mode, or you get single USB-C port for input/output (which essentially strips out USB-PD output while charging, leaving just QC - again, there is only so much you can do with dual chips multiple ports).
        
        Then, you add GaN (see next conversation) and USB-PD PPS into the mix. Do you go for these when the price is really low or you wait for next gen products (which hopefully will address some, if not most of the shortcomings).
        
        lostn on 17/03/2020 - 13:19
        
        @netsurfer:
        
        Even Amazon branded, USB-IF certified products are unsafe (they may not operate in PD mode consistently). Anker also made mistakes before.
        
        Uh oh. I have some of those cables. Can you tell me which brand products are safe?
moonpen on 16/03/2020 - 14:41

+2

Any GaN chargers with AU plugs available?
- snb9211 on 16/03/2020 - 15:06
  
  +1
  
  I've been trying to find one for ages with no luck. Would love one of these for out market.
  
  https://www.amazon.com/Charger-Baseus-Adapter-Delivery-Folda…
  - bargainparker on 16/03/2020 - 15:43
    
    Obviously you don't need it that much, otherwise you'd just use this and get on with it https://shop.alpenheat.com/1293-large_default/plug-adapter-e…
    
    Sure, it's nicer to not think about it, but Australia is not such a big market, not counting toilet paper.
    - superroach on 16/03/2020 - 17:01
      
      The point is that gan makes it smaller. An awkward adapter negates that.
      - bargainparker on 16/03/2020 - 17:16
        
        @superroach: And the point stands, but as I said Australia is not such a big market, therefore they don't bother, so you gotta do what you gotta do to make it work if you want it.
      - 0jay on 16/03/2020 - 17:32
        
        @superroach: These are pretty small but I agree, a GaN adapter would be nice.
        
        Also I think China use the same prong layout as us, in any case we’re not the only ones.
Bellpop on 16/03/2020 - 15:02

will this charge a 2019 MacBook Air? Thanks sorry I'm a noob
- moonpen on 16/03/2020 - 15:09
  
  +1
  
  Yep it would work
tinkko on 16/03/2020 - 15:37

Thanks Rap, bought 4 Ports USB charger that I have been looking for.
m9 on 16/03/2020 - 17:12

+6

Thanks rep for jacking the price up from $39.55 one day before this eBay sale
- lostn on 17/03/2020 - 13:38
  
  +1
  
  I was strongly considering the 65W version but with your idea had a look and saw that it was jacked by ~$6.50 from the previous price of AU $59.35.
  
  Now I'm going to give it a pass just out of principle. That and I don't really need it.
  
  I prefer slow charging anyway to preserve the lifespan of the battery.
- haz on 21/03/2020 - 20:10
  
  Thanks for the information. I won't support this either. The agreement between the seller and eBay was not to price jack. It was for both sides to offer a discount and the seller has decided to dishonestly price jack before the sale.
lostn on 16/03/2020 - 22:43

can you do any cheaper on this one? https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/RAVPower-65W-USB-C-PD-QC3-0-3-Po…

This was posted 4 years 9 months 6 days ago, and might be an out-dated deal.

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