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Dell G7 17 Gaming Laptop (i7-9750H RTX2060 16GB 2666MHz RAM, 256GB+1TB) $1495.20 Delivered @ Dell eBay
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nocure on 20/01/2020 - 10:42 ebay.com.au (2290 clicks)
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not sure if its worth since that one is a Max-q 2070
Yeah it's not the greatest and I haven't seen the benchmarks but I assume 2070 MaxQ > 2060
The 144Hz screen is also a big improvement which is part of why I would pay the extraEdit: Just check benchmarks, 2070mq outperforms 2060 but not by a large margin. Still worth the upgrade imo
If you're getting 6 cores and a strong graphics card in 2020 it's a no brainer to get 144hz to take advantage of that hardware.
Maybe if you only wanna play WoW on ultra 60 fps and watch movies go 60hz
UserBenchmark shows the 2070 MaxQ is about 23% better on average across various benchmarks.
Pair that with a 144hz screen it’s got value.
https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-RTX-2070-Mobile…
@FireRunner: These are user run benchmarks. Across 2775 2070 MaxQ benchmarks and 9264 2060 Mobile benchmarks.
There's no game benchmarks, but there's various lighting, rendering and gravity benchmarks that include video rendering in a very similar way that a game would be rendered. You can see the average FPS of each of these tests across the 2 GPUs, with it being around 21% higher in favour of the 2070 MaxQ.
Is it really worth paying like 18% more? I reckon you won't be able to use the extra power of the 2070 anyways because of thermal throttling.
It's debatable. I think Dell is pretty good with heat dissipation compared to other brands.
The 144Hz display is also a big factor when I'm choosing a gaming laptop.
Gone already? Damn!
1 person bought 5…
Hopefully kitting out the family and not reselling :p
its back on stock
Will this be good for 4k video editing?
If you had a second screens that supports 4k (editing a res on a lower res screen will be cumbersome), and more hdd space. Then it'll be an ok portable solution.
Likely want to double your ram too for 4k.
I got this one for my partner during the black Friday deals. Great performance, good enough cooling and it feels quite nice. Note that it's not really portable, but meant more like a space-saving and semi-transportable home PC.
Just got confirmation. Ordered on 20/01.
Expected delivery date is 10/02.Expected delivery date is 10/02.
It shouldn't take that long to dispatch unless it's (CTO) custom made to order.
They use StarTrack Express Platinum for delivery and usually take 1-3 days from experience particularly if it's a high value item.
Just received an e-mail telling me that my order has been delayed and the new expected delivery date is by 20/2
When did you place the order and when did you receive confirmation email?
Order was placed on 20/1.
Received ebay confirmation email on same day and then received message from Dell on 22/1 via ebay confirming order had been processed and confirming estimated delivery between Feb 5-12.
Thanks for the update
Has the status changed to "build complete"? Or still stuck on confirmed?I noticed when you click on "view packing slip", there is a "shipping date" under order information in the right hand column.
It's a lot sooner than the 18 Feb date I was given.@zobragin: When I clicked on "view packing slip" it asked me for a customer number (which I don't have)
When I click on the "customer numbers" section in my Dell account, it tells me that my profile doesn't have any customer numbers on record.
Were you originally given a delivery date of 18/2 or did you also get a delayed delivery e-mail?
When I clicked on "view packing slip" it asked me for a customer number (which I don't have)
The customer number should be available in the PDF of the confirmation email.
Were you originally given a delivery date of 18/2 or did you also get a delayed delivery e-mail?
My delivery date is still showing 18/2.
I have not received a delayed email (yet).
The packing slip says the shipping date is 4/2/2020. :3
Thank you for replying.
Interesting. Did you purchase via ebay or direct from Dell?
I ask because the only order confirmation e-mail I received was the ebay one and it didn't have a PDF with it.
Did you purchase via ebay or direct from Dell?
Purchased from eBay. But treated the same as if bought from Dell website.
Hmmmm…I'm starting to wonder if my order initially fell through the gap somewhere along the line because I never received that order confirmation PDF.
I think it should be OK.
Once you have the confirmation number, it's in their system to be processed.The customer number just allows you to check the order status.
Have progressed from "Payment Confirmed" to "In Production"….
@zobragin: Good news.
Mine is still at payment confirmed.
I must have been suffering from selective vision as I just found my customer number on the e-mail I received about the delay in delivery and when I did your suggestion of clicking on the packing slip the shipping date is showing as 12/2
@lovesabargain77: I just received the delayed email till 27/2.
However, my Dell status has updated to "Build Complete - Preparing for Transportation"….Fingers crossed it leaves the warehouse any time now.
@zobragin: That's strange.
Mine now showing as Confirmed - In Production
I noticed a couple of other people mentioning the delay in shipping over in the deal for the Dell Gaming Backpack
Mine now showing as Confirmed - In Production
Sad :( … especially since you ordered early.
I noticed a couple of other people mentioning the delay in shipping over in the deal for the Dell Gaming Backpack
Not sure if the shipping delay is because of what's happening in China at the moment. Some suppliers we order from in China have completely shut doors so we've had to find an an alternate source.
One thing I found interesting in that article that you linked is that the Foxconn plants were always going to be shut down for a week from 25/1 due to Chinese New Year celebrations. So if these orders were reliant on items from those locations then the delay was probably inevitable.
P.S. - The status of my order has finally updated to Build Complete - still showing an estimated del date of 20/2
Not sure how Dell chooses who gets to receive their laptop first.
According to eBay feedback, a buyer who placed their order on 25th January, has received their laptop already.
Those of us who placed orders before still have to wait another 2-3 weeks.
According to eBay feedback, a buyer who placed their order on 25th January, has received their laptop already.
That's absolutely ridiculous.
I can't even begin to explain the logic behind their process that sees someone who ordered 5 days later could get it so much earlier than the people who ordered days earlier.
I just checked and I'm pleasantly surprised to see that my order status has updated to Shipped - In transit to local hub and the shipping date on the packing slip has also updated to today's date
Have you checked your order status today?
Thanks for the update.
I just checked mine after reading your comment and was pleasantly surprised to see it had shipped as well.
I'm starting to see movement
It starting to look like they have landed on Aussie shores.EDIT:
It looks like the tracking numbers are available.
Just click the "Linked Domestic Information" tab.Thanks mate
Just checked and if I'm understanding it correctly mine is at one of their NSW depots.
Hopefully we'll have them by early next week.
@lovesabargain77: Yep the NSW depot in Hoxton Park is where all the Dell orders go to first from overseas.
Then it gets distributed to your house by local carrier - ie.StarTrack.You should have also received your StarTrack consignment number when clicking on the "Linked Domestic Info" tab.
@lovesabargain77: The waybill number (DHL) in the packing slip suggest it should arrive to your door on Monday 17/2
It finally arrived this morning. Installing all the windows and Dell updates.
I think it only comes with 1x16GB Ram, and very basic NVME 256GB SSD. Will update to 2x16GB Rams and Samsung NVME SSD tonight.
It's quite heave, but looks all right. Can't comparing the build quilty with my Surface Book for this budget price. The keyboard quality is not good.
Thanks for the update!
What's the boot up time like?
I"m thinking of just swapping out the HDD for a SSD.
My 4 year old ASUS has a SATA SDD and boots up in 5-10 secs.
I'm assuming the NVME will boot up a bit faster.16 seconds. I think the 1TB HDD slows down the boot speed. Also the NVME is a very basic one and must to be replaced.
Mine also arrived today.
As go2home stated, the boot up time is around 16 seconds.
Thanks again for your tips and help during the shipping and delivery stage.
Any update as to when yours is arriving?That's great….hope it's everything you expected from it.
Mine is coming today. :)
Got chance to play with it last night after kids went to bed……
The backcover is easy to remove, but be careful the top middle 2 screws are attached to the backcover and little bit tight.
Once opened up, I replaced the below parts:
- Unpluged the battery by pulling the black circle plastic.
- Replaced RAMs (original 2 x 8GB Samsung DDR4 2666mhz) with 2 x 16GB ones.
- Replaced the NVME (original is a Toshiba very short NVME SSD) with a 1TB Samsung 960 Pro NVME. Becareful there is a little part under the SSD (the base of the screw to fix the SSD) need to be take off and turn over to plug into the left side to fix the normal size NVME SSD.
- Replaced the HDD with a 1TB SSD. You need to pull the green plastic part to take off the SATA adaptor from the HDD.
- plug back the battery adaptor and put the laptop backcover on.
- turn on the laptop and press F12 to enter into the BIOS setting. It will pop up a hardware testing page. If you can't pass it, simply press F2 to get into the BIOS directly. You need to change the hard driver mode from RAID to AHCI. If you need to run dual boot or linux, you need to turn off the "Secure boot".
- Plug the windows 10 pro USB to finish a clean install. Becareful the defaul windows wifi driver could causing wifi problem, and you could stuck to get to the Dell.com website or process windows update. If it happened, connect with an enthernet cable, download and install the wifi drivers (Killer xxxx).
After all the windows and Dell updates, I have the last issue. The Alienware OC software can't be installed on it! It always went to an error window. Does anyone have this issue after a clean install of the windows 10 pro?
Thanks for the comprehensive update.
I too did a bit of surgery last night to replace the SATA HDD with an SSD.
You are correct about the top 2 middle screws on the back cover. They are harder to come out.
You will notice in this video that he doesn't actually pull it right out.I upgraded to Win10 Pro by using an old Win7 Pro key.
However I stuffed up by trying to turn off Bitlocker on the SATA SSD (thinking it was going to slow down drive access).
It messed up my boot drive and kept starting up in safe mode.
Everytime I needed to do something in safe mode, I need to enter in a 64 digit recovery ID to unlock the hardrive first.I ended up fixing it by pressing F12 and selecting OS Recovery option.
Then went into software test which identified there were a corrupt boot files.
It restored my PC back to factory.After all the windows and Dell updates, I have the last issue. The Alienware OC software can't be installed on it! It always went to an error window.
I hope you find a solution to this as I've been using to control the cooling fans. They're noisy and constantly ramping up and down.
(original is a Toshiba very short NVME SSD)
Mine was a Samsung PM991.
Read: 2050 MB/s
Write: 1000 MB/s
Random Read: 64K IOPS
Random Write: 220K IOPSreplaced with a 1TB Samsung 960 Pro NVME
Wow….did you notice a reduction in boot time with this?
Fixed the Alienware OC issue. It's quite simple. We have to install the Alienware Command Center first……
After the NVME updated, the booting time is about 13 seconds. Not too much improvement.
@go2home & @whopperandfries
I'm in a cold sweat just at the thought of attempting the changes that you have made :)
It's not too hard. Just be careful. :)
Just be careful. :)
Yes especially when changing the HDD. Not particularly a big fan of ribbon cable since it is much easier to damage compared to traditional wires. The first thing to go on these are the metal track contacts. I deal with these at work all the time. They have about 20 uses before you start to see it wear off completely.
I played my first game on this laptop last night.
So far quite impressed with the graphics.
During my 20min of testing, it ran smooth on Ultra setting and no signs of throttling, glitching or crashes.I used MSI Afterburner to gauge the thermals.
During gameplay:
CPU temps stayed in the 60-90 degrees. (few times spike to 93 deg)
GPU temps never went above 80 degrees.Fan was blowing loud but not full speed.
If i raised the back of the laptop to let air go underneath, the temps dropped by around 5-10 degrees.With the amount of warm air it exhausts, this thing makes a great heater during winter.
The Alienware OC only can adjust the fan speed, can't overclock the CPU. It seems the i7-9750H is locked.
I used the Intel XTU to set -0.150v on CPU Voltage Offset (that's the maximum My CPU could go through Stress Test).
I also raised the back of the laptop by a piece of metal.
After player about 2 hours of Battle Field 4 (All Ultra setting), both CPU and GPU are around 80 degrees. 2 fans' speed is always 99%. The keyboard is hot in the top middle parts. It's loud when the fan is full speed, but acceptable comparing with my Surface Book 2 when running games. There is no throttling happened and the game runs smoothly. Tonight I will plug the 3440x1440 Ultrawide monitor to play the game again.
The main reason I bought this laptop is because it could support the Oculus Link, so I could play the PC VR games on my Oculus Quest. Still waiting for the link cable bought from eBay.
So far so good. I could sell out all my other PCs and laptops and only keep this and a chromebook.
Tonight I will plug the 3440x1440 Ultrawide monitor to play the game again.
Just wondering how you went with 4K gaming?
Last night I plugged into a 4k monitor and the game suffered plenty of stuttering and frame drops.
I was getting 24-50 FPS even on low settings. It wasn't playable.My desktop 1070 ran the same game no problem whatsoever.
The online comparison between 1070 and 2060 are roughly same in performance, so just curious as to why it didn't perform as expected.The BF4 with Ultra setting on 3440x1440 has frame drops also. Once put to High setting, it runs smothly.
I also set the -0.160v on CPU Voltage Offset with Intel XTU and runs well.
Also I noticed even I put the fan setting to "quiet" in Alienware Command Center, the temperature will not increase too much (increased from 80 to 85 degrees), but getting much quiet.
Maybe BF4 can't push it to the limit?
As to the GTX 1070 desktop VS RTX 2060 laptop, please refer to the below link. It seems the GTX 1070 desktop runs better in the most games.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-5OLoz-w5sAs to the GTX 1070 desktop VS RTX 2060 laptop, please refer to the one:
Thanks for the video. Now it makes sense.
I won't be replacing my desktop just yet then.I also set the -0.160v on CPU Voltage Offset with Intel XTU and runs well.
Thanks for the tip. I just undervolted by -0.05V and my XTU score went up from 2097 to 2162.
I'll keep undervolting till the stress test fails.
@zobragin: Tonight I will test the “Processor Graphics Voltage Offset" setting in Intel XTU to undervolte the CPU internal GPU. Someone passed the -0.115v on i7-8750H and reduced 7W, 14 degrees when running full speed.
Also in the Power Oprtions - Advanced settings - Intel(R) Graphics Settings, set it to "Balanced" not "Maximum Performance" as we have the RTX graphic card to run the games. Otherwise the CPU internal GPU will always running on the high frequency and causing more power consumtion and heat.
Remember even after the above setting and passed the Stress Test, you'd better running some video players to test the stability of the interal GPU.
does anyone know if this will go up on sale any time soon again?
I happen to have my laptop in a quiet environment today and was able to pickup coil whine under the keyboard which sounds like dot matrix printers madly printing away. It's not very loud, but it's definitely there when the power is plugged in.
Do any of you guys notice it??
When the fan stopped running, I put my ear on the keyboard and can hear some buzzing sound but I think that's normal. Can't hear it once my ear leave the keyboard.
Thanks for confirming I thought there was something wrong with my computer.
When the fans come on, the buzzing/whining disappears into the background.
Just wondering if you guys have any issues with IPS glow when looking at a dark background.
I'm experiencing it with the bottom right hand corner of my screen.Yes I'm getting leakage in the top right corner and top middle of my screen.
It's only visible against black backgrounds. It's not noticeable when using it normally.
Thanks mate.
I was a bit taken back by it and thought it might be a fault as my old laptop is a 2011 Dell Inspiron Laptop that never had an issue when looking at dark backgrounds.
It wasn't until I found this article on the Dell website that I'd even heard of IPS glow.
https://www.dell.com/support/article/en-au/sln304886/trouble…
Yea ultimately it depends whether it's enough to bother you or not during normal use.
I've been playing games with dark backgrounds and I don't even notice it.
The only time i see it is when the computer boots up on the Dell logo.
I do have a bit of coil whine (light ticking/scratching sounds) under my keyboard which does bother me a bit as work in a quiet environment a lot. I'm still assessing whether to return or put up with it.
@zobragin: I googled coil whine issue and it seems caused by the Intel C-State Control.
Try to turn off the C-State Control in the BIOS setting. (under performance).
@go2home: Thanks for the suggestion.
I actually managed to reduce the noise right down by changing some settings in Alienware Control Centre.
Thermal -> Balanced
Power -> DellI think the Power setting did the trick. I can see the CPU usage now jumping around between 1 and 4GHz.
It used to stay very close to or @ 4GHz.Try to turn off the C-State Control in the BIOS setting. (under performance).
Mate you're a life saver.
That did the trick. Now my laptop is dead silent.
My battery is going to take a beating over time, but i'd rather that than put up with high pitched sound coming from under the keyboard.
I tried everything else, like turning off RGB, undervolting, keeping the fans on to mask the noise, disabling turbo boost. I was almost about to RMA this laptop but then tried your trick as a last resort and it worked.
Thanks again:)
I recommend paying a ~$260 extra for RTX2070 and 144hz screen here