Saw that the Pixel 4 was $844 At Harvey Norman, price matched instore at Officeworks for $801.80, I think this is the best price I've seen for it thus far.
Google Pixel 4 64GB $844 ($801.80 with Officeworks Price Beat) @ Harvey Norman
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LTangtang on 02/12/2019 - 12:49 harveynorman.com.au (1522 clicks)
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I want to try pixel phone but 64 Gb is a bit small for my needs as I prefer to save all my photos (120 gb for 13 years of photos and videos clips) in my phone.
Wait for 4a or pixel 5 if you can. This generation is not worth the premium over other devices. I also don't like to support such stingy products from huge corporations. S10's come with double the storage and are still cheaper, but obviously irrelevant if you are only after a pixel.
As a pixel 3 owner I was waiting for the Pixel 4 haha… How long are you willing to wait?
lol I know :-(. I bought a cheap s10e while I wait. My work P4XL barely lasts me through a day with the same use as the S10e. I will only have the work device for another week, really like pixels, but their hardware seems to let me down each year. P2XL was the last good one I think, and only when you got it on a discount due to the poor screen and call quality.
As a pixel 2xl owner, I was waiting for the 3.. and then the 4..
Let's hope Pixel 5 or 4a brings something to the table.
I'm curious about this. Do you compress photos or re-encode video? No RAW files? How do you structure the folders/files? I've been trying to merge all mine together over 3 different cameras and 4 or so phones. Some taken with camera app, some through other apps, everything is a jumbled mess.
Wow. sounds crazy but what if you lose your phone?? Don't you have some sort of a backup plan?
Online backups? You can have backups and store things locally you know? Like if I download netflix to my phone, I don't need to back it up, but I do need storage space to download it to. And when I want to show someone a 4k video I recorded, I don't need to worry about my data allowance or reception.
I'm not wanting to be argumentative or anything, but do you have an absolute need to store that many photos directly on your phone? Why not just upload them to the cloud (you can get storage pretty cheap these days, especially if you frequent OzB) and enjoy the peace of mind of knowing your data is backed up. How often are you out of mobile data reception?
Why not just upload them to the cloud (you can get storage pretty cheap these days, especially if you frequent OzB)
Or use Google Photos' free unlimited uploads. The full-quality photos can be stored locally, with a compressed backup in the cloud for free.
"I prefer to save all my photos (120 gb for 13 years of photos and videos clips) in my phone."
I get it, that it's sometimes necessary to have your pics or reference material with you. I am considering using a minature OTG micro sd card reader. I went Pixel for features like sonar tech, quick facial recognition, good camera, 3 yrs of updates and features to be improved over time. While there are mobiles that can accommodate your criteria, consider what will happen as mobile camera lenses exceed 100 megapixels.I can imagine how fun it'd be to scroll through your gallery, specifically looking for a video or photo.
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Get google photos man…….
Damn. been some great Black Friday/Cyber Monday deals on mobiles. Spoilt for choice.
They've been great deals but it's only been limited to this phone or the Note 10. Really disappointing sales on anything else
Bring back the micro SD slot and I'd have this in a heartbeat!
Pixels have never had micro SD slots though.
I'm aware of this. The Nexus series did though. I haven't bought a Google offering since they dropped the micro SD slot. As soon as they bring it back, I'll be all over it.
It's never coming back, google's whole ecosystem is based on cloud services which they need to extract data from people
Uhh, I've a Nexus 5, 6P and 7 (tablet) and Pixel 1, none have a MicroSD slot. Google was always about 'looking after' your data.
This or the 3a?
4:
- facial recognition (NO fingerprint)
- wireless charging
- no headphone socket (can use adaptor that plugs in to USB-C port. I believe one is supplied)
- 90hz screen refresh3a:
- fingerprint recognition (I think facial may be there also, but is slower to authenticate)
- no wireless charging
- 3.5mm headphone socket3a is much cheaper.
4 has more screen real estate, but physical size a bit smaller (due to smaller bezels).Thanks, the no fingerprint scanner really turns me off as a lot of banking apps have it.
I agree, I prefer fingerprint over facial scanner. I believe Google will be integrating facial with banking, etc. apps in a future software update. I am not sure if they have already done it. For anyone who doesn't mind rooting their phone, there is a module available to use facial scanning with any app.
Agreed, I'd take the 3a over the 4. It's just too good value, the battery life is better and the camera still kicks arse.
The only other consideration is that I presume, from now, the 4 will be supported with updates longer than 3a will.
64GB/no SD slot and they removed the unlimited photo storage on Pixel 4… This is the only thing that stops me. Storage is so cheap these days Google can easily afford to drop the 64GB model.
For sure. How they can sell a 64GB phone, with no expandable storage at that price level is mind boggling.
well they are a cloud business. no one would buy cloud storage if the phone had plenty. its all about sucking as much money out of you as possible
Pixel 4 is said to have woeful battery life
Bad battery life would be a deal breaker for me - hence my interest in the 3aXL. Is the 4 that much worse?
I got mine in the recent JB/Telstra port offer and I can confirm the battery, at default settings is woeful.
Coming from a $200 Sharp Aquos S2 and kind of missing it… Go figure.
Yes, it is. Every phone reviewer out there has lamented its battery life. From GSMArena:
Google Pixel 4 battery life
One of our main concerns about the Pixel 4's overall performance as a smartphone stemmed from its battery capacity - the 2,800mAh number is tiiiny, while similarly sized Galaxy S10e and Xperia 5 have cells in the 3,100mAh ballpark.Our testing proved that our concerns were well-founded. The Pixel 4 couldn't make it to the 10-hour mark in web browsing and lasted us a little over 11 hours of looping videos. The S10e can do an hour and a half longer on the web and 4 hours more, while the Xperia adds even more minutes on top. The iPhone 11, on the other hand, clocked a whopping 15:29 of running our web script and 18:43h of video playback. In all fairness, we did run the Pixel 4 in its 90Hz mode, though it does have its own concepts of when to kick in and when not to.
3a XL Battery life
The Pixel 3a XL has a 3700mAh battery, a notable step-up from the 3430mAh on the Pixel 3 XL. The Pixel 3a XL also has a far more frugal processor, so we were expecting good things in terms of battery life from the device.And our expectations were met. The Pixel 3a XL scored excellently in our battery tests. Standby, talk time and screen-on tests stand for stellar battery life. We really don't have any complaints here. It appears that the energy-efficient OLED panel and the Snapdragon 670 make a great duo when it comes to energy efficiency.
90hz screen + 2,800mAh. Really don't know what kind of battery life anyone would expect with these two specs though?
it does, shocking
I'm actually surprised by the amount of people wanting/buying this phone.
Battery aside, Pixel real world experience is smooth and quickly updated. If you use a Pixel, you would like Pixel again.
I loved the Pixel experience, but the costs and reduction in features/ability means only very hardcore pixel fans would continue to buy. I mean on my work P4XL I can't even use biometrics to login to all of my apps that use fingerprint on my S10e, I know this is up to the app creators, but this is what pixel 4 users have to deal with. I also got massive lag after nov update, had to factory reset, so in my real world it's not doing great, can't even get through a day without requiring a top up. I like updates as much as the next person, but in reality doesn't offer much at all.
I loved the Pixel experience, but the costs and reduction in features/ability means only very hardcore pixel fans would continue to buy.
Yeah, as much as Google tries to sell it to everyone, I think only real techy people would appreciate the differences compared to e.g. an S10.
@eug: I am a techy person, and I appreciate what the S10 offers over a pixel, pixels are super basic phones made to entice people from iPhones to android only. I am glad they exist to push other manufacturers further as far as updates and camera ability, but now it's hard to justify the cost of them. I would buy one perhaps if they were $500- $700.
I am a techy person, and I appreciate what the S10 offers over a pixel,
I think the S10 offers more practical, useful things over a Pixel while a Pixel offers the latest software and camera developments which don't all appeal to the general public. Only really techy people will care about getting the latest version of Android on day 1, playing with a radar sensor, getting security updates first, having the "pure Android experience", etc - and that's only the techy people who are interested in the software side of things.
but now it's hard to justify the cost of them.
Yeah, at their full RRP, there's no way I would recommend them to a normal consumer over e.g. an S10 or Note 10.
@eug: I'm running linux on dex, something I could never do on my Pixel, and I love customising my phones, something again you are severely limited to on a Pixel as they are so basic.
It's hard developing to hardware like the pixels radar array, as only the pixel has it, and perhaps Google will remove it by Pixel 5. Google are very unreliable as far as software longevity and hardware commitments go. Getting security updates a week before another device isn't a selling point as far as I'm concerned, although I can appreciate some may require it for certain work things perhaps.
I have a P4XL for work as it's one of our dev phones, we can take it home and test it etc which I do a lot with various devices. I think Nexus was for techy people, as they were cheap, had flaws, and had bugs, things which techy people could deal with.
Battery aside,
Also, battery life might not be as big a concern to someone who spends 8 hours a day at work where the phone can sit on a wireless charger the whole day.
@eug: Yea I thought that too, and then I went on holidays, and the phone was the worst as I wasn't around a power point all day.
@onlinepred: When I went on holiday, even my S10 wouldn't last the whole day so I would be carrying a power bank anyway. So no real difference to me.
Pixel 4 XL 128G is also on sale at hardly normal $1219, price beat at office works
The P4 XL would be the more "worth it" choice here, for the bigger battery (obviously), with the Officeworks 5% price beat, that would bring it down to approx $1023. That is still a killer deal IMO.
I might just jump in on this. I've been waiting for a good P4XL deal to come along this entire weekend, that doesn't involve store credit looking at you Google Store
Pixel 4 XL ain't great though if you're like me and have small hands.
Ended up grabbing the 128GB Pixel 4 for $988 (I originally bought it for $1049 on Friday, then they dropped the price, so asked them to refund me $61)
There was a deal (might be still active) last week with Phonebot, I got the Pixel 4 XL for $979… :)
Damn :( sold out there now though
It just came back in stock and I managed to snag one. Thanks champ!
I'm okay with the lack of a headphone jack, but wake me up when they go ultrawide lens.
Thanks OP, took the plunge at OW with price beat. Get in quick before Harvey Norman stock levels deplete, otherwise OW will refuse the price match.
Picked up the last in black at Clarence St, Sydney.
Current Pixel 4XL owner, upgraded from a Pixel 2. The screen glass on this thing seems way fragile compared to the P2.
Also forgot to add to my last comment, that whilst I was worried about battery life, I took a look around for some anecdotal reviews (rather than journalist reviews) and was pleased to find that real-life users of the phone don't seem to be complaining as much as journalists have been. For example, this thread at Android Central:
https://forums.androidcentral.com/google-pixel-4-pixel-4-xl/…
Still, it's taking a chance, so we'll see how it all pans out.
Relieving to have a smaller phone again after so long.
Moved to pixel 4 from a S8 on release day. I don't miss the S8 at all. Battery is more than acceptable for an everyday user imo. Camera is amazing.
Could combine with the $40 off $200 Myer Amex statement credit (Coles Myer gift cards can be used at Officeworks)
New to this so forgive me.
How do people rate the Pixel 4? Worth the investment?
I've found over the past few weeks retailers discount the phone heavily so I wonder if there is a reason why they are pushing the phone so heavily.
Thoughts?
If you're a power user, battery life on this is probably one of the worst in the whole flagship lineup of 2019.
And if you weren't a power user, would it be suitable for a general user after a phone with a good camera?
Any ideas on the underlying reason why it's being discounted so heavily?
You really need to research reviews a bit more if you are interested. Most phones have great cameras these days. This does not have wide angle lens like most others though. Possibly one of the best in regards to some situations of photography, but only if you like HDR style photos. Video is a big improvement, but still not as good as Sammy/iPhone etc. Doesn't come with a fingerprint ready, many apps won't be setup to use the face id clone for a while, so will need to use passwords/pins (like your bank apps). Battery is worse than nearly every flagship phone out right now. Many features advertised by Google in the past and shown by reviewers are not available in Australia so it's worth looking into. Pixels are mostly designed for US software and feature wise which is also worth considering. They get discounted heavily, but not as heavily as other androids, as in you can get s10's with more storage for less.
if you arent a power user and want a good camera get the pixel 3a
From what I've read on other Pixel 4 reviews, Google's routine is to launch new Pixels at flagship prices but then quickly start dropping the price soon after. Lots of reviewers have been critical of this approach, arguing that if Google launched new Pixels at a cheaper price right off the bat it would encourage uptake, seeing as how there are always hardware choices that are underwhelming for the cost.
So it looks like the price drops are just business as usual for Pixel releases.
It doesn't make any sense why they release the phone so late in the snapdragon cycle.
I actually bought one purely for the apparently excellent voice to text transcription- it will pay for itself in a few weeks. Did the OW price beat but as there were none in store at domayne she used the price plus delivery so I paid around $809. Waiting to have it delivered today or tomorrow.
Dumb question - I’m happy with my iPhone on Vodafone. But sometimes people have trouble hearing me.
Can I get an Esim for the pixel on the same phone number as my main phone, then switch to that for calls if there are issues?I actually bought one purely for the apparently excellent voice to text transcription- it will pay for itself in a few weeks.
This could be handy depending on how you use it.
Can I get an Esim for the pixel on the same phone number as my main phone, then switch to that for calls if there are issues?
Unfortunately you can only get one SIM, either physical or eSIM, per phone number here.
thanks - I suspected that would be the case, a pity though!
Isn't that done through the new Google Recorder app? I've downloaded it from APKMirror and it works perfectly well on the Pixel 3, though it seems hit and miss working on other phones at the moment.
I"m not sure - I asked the Google guy in JB Hifi and he said only the 4
Oh dear, did you read reviews of the transcription app? It's actually quite bad. It barely works for just be talking to it. Adds no punctuation either.
It's actually quite bad. It barely works for just be talking to it.
Have you tried it? I find it works pretty well for what it's designed to do. You can even play a video on your laptop and place the phone next to it and it will transcribe it reasonably well.
If you're trying to transcribe conversations in a group setting with multiple people talking like a meeting, or in a very noisy environment, it's not going to go well.
Just me talking to it. It's like any product you can pay for, but not as good for using it later. I tried using my external USB mic and it improves it a little, but still much worse than free software on my pc. Output and exports are non existent. Not sure what real world use is. I also tried it on my s10e and got basically the same result but obviously online.
Literally free apps made by ex googlers are better. https://otter.ai/
@onlinepred: A few people I know tried it and thought it was great. A long chat in store was fairly close to accurate
I received it last night and so far average results just recording things around me - will have more chance to test it for work purposes next week..@sydneygirl: We used my old Note 4 (which has 4 mics for directional recordings) for work recordings and still do haha (after they bought me a new phone I gave them the note 4), Samsung recorder dictates really well and figures out where the voice is coming from and associates that with a different person and it's all exportable. It's significantly better than pixel. I couldn't get my Pixel to add any punctuation automatically which most others do, and it failed miserably when two people were talking.
@onlinepred: interesting. i will see how Monday's test goes and if its really disappointing will look into this option
@onlinepred: Can I ask what specific app you use on the Note 4 for recording dictation?
I've got an old Note 3 and would like to do the same 😀
I've got Pixel 4 and can confirm the battery life sucks. If you need to use the phone from 7 to 10, you will need to turn the battery saving mode on.
Also the mic is really really woeful. I'm not sure why it hasn't been mentioned by others/reviewers. The other person on the line can't hear me properly if I put the phone on speaker mode.
Not so happy with mine.The battery life is definitely shorter than my S10, but I'm OK with it.
Haven't had any problems with the mic. Maybe yours is faulty? That could be why it hasn't been mentioned by others.
If anyone is still looking for the Pixel 4:
https://www.phonebot.com.au/google-pixel-4-brand-new?search=…Phonebot has them is stock still for 879, the XL was 979 (out of stock), I managed to get one though.
Still one helluva deal though.If you're a power user (i.e. unlocks bootloader etc) you can flash a custom kernel to vastly improve the battery life.
I got this for $199 at JB plus perhaps a few more dollars ontop to rape the contract loophole.
I've had it for 2 weeks and I personally would not pay more than $500 for it. Any higher may aswell get a Note10 on sale for $850.Pixel 4 average battery, 64GB and missing wide lens are the low points.
Good points is it's very smooth and fast, screen display is somewhat beautiful.
The sound is excellent, speakers sound like a mini stereo.
Day & night camera is very good.
What a steal!