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[eBay Plus] MSI X570 Gaming Pro Carbon Wi-Fi $356.15 Delivered (Promo: 250GB SSD + US $25 Steam Credit) @ Computer Alliance eBay

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[eBay Plus] MSI X570 Gaming Pro Carbon Wi-Fi $356.15 Delivered (Promo: 250GB SSD + US $25 Steam Credit) @ Computer Alliance eBay
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Cloudream on 29/07/2019 - 18:41 ebay.com.au (2430 clicks)
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Alternative model: MSI MPG X570 Gaming Edge Wi-Fi $284.75 Delivered (Promo: 250GB SSD + US $25 Steam Credit)

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Major features compared to cheaper models:

  • Intel Wi-Fi 6 (11ax) chipset, up to 2.4Gbps, plus Bluetooth 5
  • Intel Gigabit LAN controller
  • Better VRM compared to the 3 entry models from MSI
  • X570 chipset fan not under GPU card (compared to other brands)

Ryzen 7 3700X / 9 3900X deal
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  • tarkus on 29/07/2019 - 18:58

    Thanks, bought the board earlier but didn't know about the WD blue deal. Free SSD!

  • fastnet on 29/07/2019 - 19:10
    +1

    The chipset even has it's own little fan!

    • Cloudream on 29/07/2019 - 19:12
      +7

      A lot of heat because of PCIe 4.0 speed. It won't spin under normal use.

      • Major Mess on 30/07/2019 - 09:34

        But will fail in a year or three for when PCIe devices start to become a thing of use or affordability. Not to mention the dust issues….

  • chromium on 29/07/2019 - 19:33

    Nice price. Would have considered it at this price.

    Ended up paying $313 for my Asus TUF Gaming X570 that doesn't have WiFi 6 or Intel LAN. It does have 8x SATA ports though, which I needed. I believe all the MSIs only have 6

  • HKS on 29/07/2019 - 19:44
    +3

    any mATX boards?

    • Merlict on 29/07/2019 - 20:36
      +2

      Very slim pickings for mATX boards this gen sadly.

      • HKS on 30/07/2019 - 13:19

        well shit, i think im gonna switch to mini itx then.

  • [Deactivated] on 29/07/2019 - 19:49

    What's the advantage of better VRM?

    • Azmunga on 29/07/2019 - 19:58

      It's a bit like better quality power supplies (the ability to have more power supplied more efficiently) but just for the motherboard. So a better VRM will produce less heat and helps with things that demand more power, like overclocking and the higher core count cpus.

    • p1 ama on 29/07/2019 - 20:16

      Gives you better OC if you decide to go with the 3900X or 3950X. It won't make much of a difference with the lower core chips.

      • [Deactivated] on 29/07/2019 - 20:18

        I paid $220 for an MSI X570 pro for my 3600X, happy with that

        • netsurfer on 29/07/2019 - 20:25

          3600X, don't need to worry that much about VRM. Anyway, pretty much all X570 boards have good VRM.
          Asus was teasing about MSI and Gigabyte mid level X570 boards, obviously exaggerating a lot (and not comparing to their top boards). AMD asked Asus to removed that ad.

          • kingnunu on 03/08/2019 - 09:37

            @netsurfer: i read somewhere that ryzen 3000 series though overclockable is actually bad at overclocking and that you cant really overclock more than one core… anyone have any input on this?

    • Ostrk on 29/07/2019 - 20:17
      +1

      overcocking

      • netsurfer on 29/07/2019 - 20:27

        overcocking

        Better VRM - can cock better…. interesting….

  • Mishchap on 29/07/2019 - 20:02
    +2

    crap, my ebay plus ran out a few days ago :(

    • cloudie9 on 29/07/2019 - 20:08
      +1

      Renew it or open a new account..?

  • t0087669 on 29/07/2019 - 20:15

    worth the money? or should I wait for B450 MAX?

    • Zazer on 29/07/2019 - 20:20

      Worth imo.

    • jasswolf on 29/07/2019 - 20:32

      Only worth it if you're planning on buying a new GPU 3-4 years from now for the same system.

    • netsurfer on 29/07/2019 - 20:41
      +1

      What CPU? It also depends how you feel about Asus' unfair ad. Buildzoid did try to refute many of the points, but some of the things Asus pointed out do have some merit. Yes, more layers does not equal better board, but it doesn't hurt. Having DrMOS setup is technically better (in theory). But the actual Asus board is more expensive. More SATA ports and USB 3.2 gen 2 ports at the back are handy - well, but then, who has that many USB 3.2/3.1 gen 2 devices.

      X570 boards are more likely to get prompt BIOS updates.

      A320 vs X570 - the result might shock you a bit:
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wF8EuEfKH3Q

      Bear in mind, the board picked by the reviewer is one of the rare A320 board which has the latest ComboPI in the BIOS. Most A320 boards come with a old BIOS for Ryzen 3xxx series. Also, you need an old CPU to upgrade the BIOS on that board.

      • t0087669 on 29/07/2019 - 20:55

        I’ll be looking to get 3700x

        • netsurfer on 29/07/2019 - 22:01

          The wifi 6/BT 5 feature is essentially Intel AX200 - $22 on eBay, but you need to buy a PCIe card to fit it on B450 (another $15 perhaps). So, with $37, you can add wifi 6/BT 5 to your B450.

          This board costs more than 2X a B450 board. Ryzen 3700X, honestly, you don't need X570 (unless MSI continues to mess up the BIOS, but even so, I would just get a cheap X570). Ryzen 3900X - definitely get a good X570 board.

          Right now, there is no real reason to rush and get Ryzen 3xxx. We know AMD stuffed up ComboPI 1.0.0.3aba so the two known bugs are yet to be fixed correctly. Based on the way M/B vendors released ComboPI 1.0.0.3ab updates, we know by the time AMD finally fixed those bugs, it will still take weeks for us to get the BIOS update.

  • mobbahobba on 29/07/2019 - 20:19

    Regret buying my b450 Pro Carbon AC last week, especially with all the zen 2 issues the 450 boards have been having :(

    • ts13 on 29/07/2019 - 20:32

      let me know how you go with updating bios.I have packages arriving this week and was just gonna assemble my Ryzen 5 3600X onto my MSI B450 Gaming Pro, and see if the bios works… but I don't think it will. I think it will need updating, and I'm still not sure how to go about it.

      • netsurfer on 29/07/2019 - 21:08

        You need a BIOS upgrade. BIOS flashback is the easy part of B450 setup. Watch this video:

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTkXunUAriE

        The USB stick needs to be FAT32 formatted and there is only 1 USB port that's designed for USB Flashback. Look at the backplate, normally, it has a slightly different colour on the backplate cover (white perhaps), it is the one closest to the flash button in general. Be patient, it does take a long time.

        The issue is that Ryzen 3xxx series doesn't seem to solve the middle of the bunch RAM module mess issue. Basically:

        • If you have cheap DDR4-2400 RAMs (~$50 for 8GB), and just run default; you probably wouldn't care about RAM O/C. So you will probably be fine.
        • If you have top notch DDR4-3600+ RAMs (~$125 for 8GB), they should run fine.

        But, if you buy DDR4-3000 or DDR4-3200 (~$70 for 8GB), you face memory lottery and/or you may need to tackle the XMP issue (unless you know the memory chips are Samsung B-die (apparently Micron Rev E ones are good too - I will be able to confirm once I receive them). You won't be happy to run those at DDR4-2400 so you try to get them to run at the rated speed and it could be tricky. If the PC takes extra long time to boot after a shutdown/power down, then memory settings is still not right. The cold bootup should be quick. Even if it boots to Windows 10 fine, do run a full round of memory test.

        The MSI B450 BIOS definitely needs more work. It often fails to detect XMP 100% correct (requiring multiple clear CMOS and reset BIOS to default settings). Sometimes, in BIOS, it shows that RAMs are meant to run at DDR4-3200, but in CPUz/Windows 10, it still shows they run at DDR4-2400.

        • ts13 on 30/07/2019 - 00:33

          I didn’t know about the flash bios button. Thanks for the video link.
          Not quite sure what you’re on about with the ram :/
          I bought 16gb ballistix ram @3600mhz but cancelled the order since it looks like the b450 won’t support 3600.

          Traded it for 16gb Ripjaws g.skill @3200mhz (all at ddr4). Hopefully it all runs without any hiccups.

          • netsurfer on 30/07/2019 - 12:25

            @ts13: The memory controller is one of the chiplets on the CPU. Therefore, B450 can support DDR3600 (and even higher). Go to the motherboard page, Specs, Details, See Supported Memory, Memory by RX-3X00.

            Ripjaws G-Skill V DDR 3200? Well, based on OZBer experience, you may need to manually try out the settings. Based on the comments I saw, neither one of them got XMP to work. One actually managed to overclock it to DDR 3600, one of them couldn't get his set to work even at DDR 3200. Ballistix DDR 3600 would have been a better choice.

            Anyway, good luck with the RAM. Maybe a newer BIOS will fix this memory mess.

            • ts13 on 30/07/2019 - 12:54

              @netsurfer: Even though mine isn’t a b450 carbon pro? It is msi b450 gaming plus!

              • netsurfer on 30/07/2019 - 16:34
                +1

                @ts13: I don't think it matters that much. Your board's BIOS has the same BIOS size limit like most other MSI boards so the heavy GUI mode is gone. Apparently, other B450 board makers would have the same issue.

                Anyway, once you have them, try them out. I am just speculating. Everything could just works right out of the box. I had two sets of RAM (same model, same batch, bought on the same day). One set works fine, another set appears to work fine (boots Windows 10, but once you do memory tests, heaps of errors - the real kicker is once you put them in intel board, memory tests passed). What's the logical explanation? Is it the chipset? the memory controller on the CPU or the CPU? But, how do you explain the other pair of RAM modules work fine?

              • netsurfer on 30/07/2019 - 22:41

                @ts13: Just an FYI, I have received the Micron Rev E memory modules (DDR4-3000). It was hyped up by a few OZBers (stating they can be overclocked to DDR4-3600 easily). Well, I must have received the worst pairs of those RAM modules. I tried DDR4-3200 using my other DDR4-3200's timings (a bit slower than DDR4-3000). It failed memory tests right away. So, they are worse than my DDR4-3200.

                You get what you pay for. I am not going to bother wasting time raising voltage, relax timings to make DDR4-3000 to work at DDR4-3600, but Micron Rev E obviously have several bins, and low end ones are very ordinary.

                • chromium on 30/07/2019 - 23:04

                  @netsurfer: Damn, that's not good news. I've got a 2 x 16GB Kit I haven't opened yet. Where did you get yours from?

                  Do you have the Ballistix LT Sport 3000 CL15?

                  I've seen these hyped up all over the place. Luck of the draw I guess :(

                • ts13 on 30/07/2019 - 23:34

                  @netsurfer: Thanks. My @3200 Ripjaws arrived today too. I think we purchased the same ram.
                  I am still waiting for the mb and cpu to come in later this week so I’ll let you know how I go. Need to figure out how to run a memory test 😂

                • Cloudream on 19/08/2019 - 23:43

                  @netsurfer: Which CPU and motherboard are you using? Also micron E-die requires higher latency parameters compared to samsung B die.

    • Cloudream on 29/07/2019 - 20:50

      There are beta BIOS released yesterday on their forum/reddit. Probably most issues will gone within a few weeks as they have more time to iron out. MSI has the best BIOS support for AMD currently.

      • netsurfer on 29/07/2019 - 21:29

        I disagree on MSI having the best BIOS support for AMD currently. The BIOS size issue on B450 means some of the less important features were cut out. Some of their A320 boards still haven't got the latest ComboPI update yet.

        Most of us decided to go with MSI due to some reviewers indicate MSI use better MOSFETs on their lower end boards (B450, with X570, most makers have up their games). But, at the same time, one of the reviewers did warn us about MSI BIOS in the past.

  • Todes Angst on 29/07/2019 - 20:27
    +2

    28 Degrees price protection ENGAGE :D

    • chromium on 29/07/2019 - 20:55

      Yeah almost wish I bought this instead of the ASUS TUF Gaming. I have claimed $45 back from the original $359 I paid though :)

  • Pulseless on 29/07/2019 - 20:35

    Bought this board from this seller a week ago. Where do I write a review

  • t0087669 on 29/07/2019 - 20:37

    Whats the difference between this and the cheaper X570 GAMING EDGE WIFI ?

    • Cloudream on 29/07/2019 - 20:38

      Comparison on MSI site

      • t0087669 on 29/07/2019 - 20:43

        thanks, it looks like the main difference is the LAN (Realtek® 8111H Gigabit LAN Controller vs Intel I211AT Gigabit LAN controller), but what does it all mean? haha sorry for the newb question

        • Cloudream on 29/07/2019 - 20:45

          Just Wifi 6 (11ax) is future proof and worth the price difference IMO.

          LAN chipset: Realtek vs Intel (better)
          Wifi: 450Mbps vs 2.4Gbps + extended antenna (faster)
          Bluetooth: 4.2 vs 5
          VRM:
          Motherboard, Controller, High Side, Low Side, Chokes, Doubler
          MSI MPG X570 Gaming Pro Carbon WIFI, IR35201 (5+1), QA3111N6N (10), Unknown/Not Applicable, 10, IR3598 (5)
          MSI MPG X570 Gaming Edge WIFI, IR35201 (4+2), S4C029N (8), S4C024N (8), 8, IR3598 (4)

  • jace88 on 29/07/2019 - 21:12

    Dang… looks good but still trying to find a board with 3 m.2 slots.

  • stinkychicken on 29/07/2019 - 21:13

    The Gigabyte X570 AORUS Elite is also available from the same seller for $339.15 delivered (EBAY PLUS) - https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Gigabyte-AM4-ATX-X570-AORUS-Elit…?

    • Gutmeal on 29/07/2019 - 22:58

      Thanks for the tip. Just got one for myself.

  • supatight on 29/07/2019 - 22:50
    -2

    anyone wanna sell them steam credit at half price let me know

  • idonteven on 29/07/2019 - 22:58

    Just bought a 3600 and am planning to pair it with a 1600 Ti. Don't plan on doing any oc, am I better off getting the cheapest x570 board since there may or may not be an issue with b450 and I've never done any bios flashing before?

  • Ventak on 29/07/2019 - 23:55

    I had just bought an X470 motherboard a week ago…

  • Deepchild on 30/07/2019 - 08:10

    nooo missed out…would of been a good reason to move to AMD =(

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