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Samsung 860 QVO 1TB SSD $157.17 + Delivery (Free with Plus) + $20 CB via Redemption @ Computer Alliance eBay
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Lower life expectancy and slower at high volume writes when it runs out of cache.
oh…. so i guess its best to pay a little bit extra for the EVO series??
I personally would, but these are probably fine for most people. Especially to store some Steam games on.
@Homr: imo it's fine. as with most sata SSDs, 99% of use cases will be limited by sata's speed or your network's speed. the QLC "slowness" will only show when you're writing a huge file from a source that's faster than this SSD.
if it's your first SSD, there's practically no possibility this can be the bottleneck.
@xrailgun: I wasn't sure if it was his/her first SSD.
If it's your first one, you'll be more than happy with it.
It's just I've been using SSDs for 4 or 5 years or so, so I personally wouldn't buy this one for main drive use; but I'd definitely consider it for game storage.
@Homr: Minimum Pro series (860 Pro 9.5mm SATA, or 970 Pro M.2 NVME), or if you can afford it, an Intel Optane (905P) drive.
You'd want something with a decent amount of endurance, especially taking into consideration swapfile space in Windoze.
@BradH13: For gaming, its ok;
but for normal data storage, data retention is worse in QLC drive which could be tricky for photo storage.
and lower data retention
from Anandtech:
"Each transition to storing more bits per memory cell comes with significant downsides that offset the appeal of higher storage density. The four bits per cell storage mode of QLC requires discriminating between 16 voltage levels in a flash memory cell. The process of reading and writing with adequate precision is unavoidably slower than accessing NAND flash that stores fewer bits per cell. The error rates are higher, so QLC-capable SSD controllers need very robust error correction capabilities. Data retention and write endurance are reduced.
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If you're transferring >6GB at a time, speeds drop substantially (~80MB/s). Lower TBW and only 3 years instead of 5 years warranty on the EVO.
still, isn't it like 3 years of 390 GB per day of writing? I don't think anyone who "accidentally" buys this will ever reach this limit.
4-bit MLC V-Nand in the QVO (Q is for Quad) vs 3-bit MLC V-Nand in the EVO
QVO - 4 bits per cell
EVO - 3 bits per cellThe more bits per cell means slower to write (plus since you write 4 bits to a cell, the cell life is reduced). To compensate for the slowness, SSD makers employ SLC caching (SLC is 1 bit per cell). However, you cannot spare that many cells to SLC cache so the SLC cache is generally finite. Except for QVO, Samsung introduced dynamic cache (so when the drive is relatively free, it allocates more to the cache).
QVO/QLC Performance is fine for general usage (Web browsing, watching videos, playing games) because you spend more time idle or playing games, rather than constantly accessing the SSD non-stop. However, for servers, these should be avoided (especially for database servers).
If this is a secondary SSD for gaming and watching videos, then sure get the QVO. If you are going to put OS on it, then I suggest spending the extra $30 overall (after the cashbacks) and get the EVO.
Final price of $122.73
Cashback from both providers is ex-GST.Got one.
Please advise how to do it?
Steps:
- Click on the link shown in the original post (at the top): Original Shopback 10% Cashback @ eBay AU
- If you haven't signed up for Shopback account, use the bonus $11 link.
- Sign up and setup your withdraw details.
- Purchase the item (since it is over $100, you should be able to get the $10 cashback required to also take advantage of the $11 bonus).
- Wait for the item to arrive.
- Register for the Samsung cashback - check the details, you will need to open the package (not sure whether they ask you for a photo with the serial number on the SSD, rather than the packaging).
- Wait for the cashback. Note: the Samsung cashback will take a looooong time to be fully processed. Samsung will eventually deposit the money to your account.
- Once Shopback and eBay confirmed everything and issued the cashback, do a withdraw from Shopback.
Is it worth replacing my 8yr old HDD with this one on my laptop ?
If your laptop only has SATA2, then just get the cheapest SSD - so if you want 1TB from Samsung, this is the one. The two cashbacks + discount make it attractive.
If your laptop has SATA3, then you probably want to think about EVO, unless you use it just for general Web browsing, watching videos, and word processing.
Remember for every SSD, keep at least 10% free (don't fill it up to 100%).
Thanks mate. My laptop is " * HP ENVY dv6-7215TX 15.6 inch Commercial NotebookIntel i7-3630QM Processor @ 2.40GHz8GB DDR3 RAM Intel Smart Response Technology with 1 TB SATA and a 32GB SLC mSATA Hard drive ".
Do you know if ssd from this deal can fit into my laptop…
Fairly sure it'll fit. Laptops have been using the same 2.5" format for as long as I can rmb.
But the real choice is between this or the EVO option which is $30 more.
I'd personally go for the Evo… Normally. If you are aiming to spend minimal, then this should be fine I reckon.
But in your situation, I might actually say consider an upgrade to a new laptop.. because I'd imagine the battery must be pretty old and worn. Newer ones (e.g. Dell XPS 13) are much lighter and thinner.
Its read speeds are just as fast as any other SATA SSD, if it is a game SSD, it is a fantastic choice. Use it for Steam, Origin and all the others and you'll just enjoy super fast load speeds. Downloading games from the Internet will not be exceeding the SSD's bottleneck anytime soon.
my surname is the coupon, do i get a bigger discount
Do you think this would this be a suitable replacement for the current SSD drive (Intel SSD 520 Series 2.5" 7mm SATA 3.0 6Gb/S) in my Desktop (as my Drive C)? Or would the EVO offer more durability for the busy C Drive?
QVO will be fine for C, though I'd suggest something like C = 500GB Evo / NVME, D = 2TB QVO. That is if you play video games, install them on the QVO.
I just want to store my photos from my Mac on this as a backup drive.
Is this one good for that?If you just want to store photos, a HDD is probably better suited to your needs. SSD are about 3x the price of HDDs, because they read and write files much faster, But you wont need that speed with photos. Its useful for gaming and enterprise.
https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/451565
This would give you much more storage for the same price. Just make sure you know what you want.
Would this be more safe for storage though?
HHD's end up failing more etc. I want to make a backup and then store them in my safe. This would have a longer shelf life right?
If you are worried about permanence then you should look at cloud storage, M-Disc or redundant storage (NAS).
HDDs are historically 3-5 years.
SLC SSDs can get up to 10 years but it is largely dependent on writes.I am unsure what the expected life span of QLC is but I wouldn't be surprised if it was around 5 years.
Hey boss, is this SSD good for Photoshop and Lightroom? the raw file is 40mb-ish. I have thousands of them.
I'm not a pro. I'm thinking if it will be much quicker if I dump photos from SD card to this SSD and edit them. I will eventually store the edited photo in HDD.Is there a limitation say per invoice/per personal/per household for the cashback?
Just some interesting stats, I've had a Samsung 840 Pro for 6yrs as my primary boot drive, it's written 31TB, these 860 QVO drives are rated to 360TB written within warrenty period. Only downside is you don't want to fill it, though I try to keep all my drives with a bit of space left.
It's a shame the 4TB drive is more than 4x the price of the 1TB
Whats the difference between QVO and EVO??