Parameters:
Power supply mode:Neutral+live wireRated voltage: AC100V~250V(50/60Hz)Load power:INC 6OOW(Max)
LED 150W(Max)
Wireless standard: IEE802.11b/g/nWorking frequency: 2. 412~2.484MHz
Wireless security support: WEP/WPA- PSK/WPA2-PSKEncryption type: WEP/AES/TKIPStatic power loss: s O.5W
Working environment: -20C~ 75CWorking humidity: < 95%
Conteolling distance: no distance limitationProduct size: 116*75*35MM
the size?
You wont be able to get an electrician to install, and if you do it yourself you void your home insurance as your have done illegal electrical work
Is this because it's not certified for Australia?
@asa79: Good pick up! Makes these pretty useless if that's the case. I sure as hell wouldn't do any home wiring myself.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3K9QjRDIwuw&t=2s
This guy goes thru the insurance polices about doing your own DIY electrical work in Australia
TLDR don't do it?
In short, in qld $40,000 fine for doing your own electrical work
Not bargain.
That was quite a informative video.
Australia's law on self electrical work is absolutely ridiculous. As an electrical/telecom engineer, certified and part of Engineers Australia, I can't legally change a light switch when the our amount of knowledge on electricity (any area of it) is 10x higher than an electricians.
Would be a great product if we could install in australia, but unfortunately we cant:(
we will send sample to Australia to certificate soon if u like this item
unsafe product. Would advise against buying.
Any evidence?
not certified for Australia doesn’t necessarily mean unsafe.
Who/where are they certified for?
Yeah exactly, I'd like to be sure it's at least certified for some market before having any confidence at all in it. I've worked as an electronics design engineer in a company that designed it's best products and sourced its bottom end products and have seen some very unsafe designs (which of course we corrected)… Worse still unless you are dealing with a well established company you need to inspect yourself or at least sight a test report to have any confidence markings are genuine. I'm always staggered by people wanting to save $10 buying some unknown brand of mains socket, powerboard etc.
I'm always staggered by people wanting to save $10 buying some unknown brand of mains socket, powerboard etc.
All mains sockets and power boards sold in Australia would have obtained all the necessary certifications regardless of price. Are you saying those certifications are worthless as you still don't trust those certified products?
Negging due to "defective product". Pretty defective if they don't have the correct certification for Australia!
Alternatively could be reported as "illegal" but I figured technically the product is legal, you just can't use it!
Negging due to "defective product".
Is it defective or just uncertified?
If it's uncertified to the point it can't even be installed without risking a massive fine, then I'd say it's defective. Compared to say an uncertified usb charger where it may just be a bit dodgy but at least you can use it.
If ozb feels it's an inappropriate neg, that's cool too!
When was the last time the government inspectors came and checked your light switches for compliance?
@No: You can install and risk having your insurance voided. Not worth it when aus certified ones are only around the $50-120 mark
Allow me to disagree here. My house almost burned down due to “a bit dodgy uncertified usb charger” BTW I didn’t neg you :)
My house almost burned down due to “a bit dodgy uncertified usb charger”
Certification didn't help Matt Golinski. Certification isn't a guarantee of safety.
If it's uncertified to the point it can't even be installed without risking a massive fine, then I'd say it's defective.
So the millions of tourists who plug in their uncertified, unapproved phone and laptop chargers into hotel power sockets… they all have defective chargers?
It's not a defective (i.e. faulty) product. It's an uncertified product. But not having certification does not mean it will burn your house down or electrocute you. As with everything, including 100% approved local products, it's buyer beware.
Compared to say an uncertified usb charger where it may just be a bit dodgy but at least you can use it.
I think this is safer than a USB charger as you are isolated from the electronics.
@eug: I didn’t neg you but any reputable brand computer charger or USB adapter will have necessary approvals for all major countries.
I didn’t neg you but any reputable brand computer charger or USB adapter will have necessary approvals for all major countries.
The OP was talking about Australian certification. I just had a look at three of my overseas phone chargers, none of them have an RCM. They're by Asus (US), Xiaomi (China), and Samsung (US) - I consider them reputable.
Neither does my Toshiba laptop charger or my Wahl trimmer/shaver charger.
Don't forget that tourists don't only come from first-world countries. Plenty of tourists from third-world countries bring electrical equipment that has no Australian certification, not to mention the heaps of really dodgy travel converters out there.
My point is that not having an RCM doesn't automatically mean the product is dangerous and will burn your house down, like many people here seem to believe. I'm not vouching for this wifi switch as I've never seen it myself, but I'm questioning the thinking of people who blindly assume not having an RCM automatically means your house will burn down or you will be somehow fined otherwise.
Just like how there are many people who have driven at 85km/h on a 80km/h quiet back country road (where insurance would not cover them as they were speeding illegally) and found it perfectly safe, I believe we should be able to make up our own minds about items like this as they can be 100% safe. It's just not always economically viable for the manufacturer to get an RCM for our small market.
A usb charger isnt doing your own electrical work, and good luck finding an electrician that would install this for you and risk huge fines and possible jail time if the house burnt down killing someone
I can tell you the mods don’t remove posts for unapproved (and technically completely illegal) USB power adapters etc, despite illegal items being on the ozbargain banned list for posting deals.
The use of the item may be illegal. The sale of it is not.
I believe the use of them is legal, the (local) sale is not.
Have a look at this brochure.
For prescribed equipment (like toasters, vacuums, power supplies/chargers) with no compliance documents, energysafe Victoria says buy at your own risk. They discourage you from buying it but they do not say it is illegal.
For non-prescribed equipment like portable air conditioners, pumps, and LED lamps, they can even be sold locally without being approved, however the supplier must ensure that they meet relevant minimum safety standards.
This product, whilst installed and operated abroad, sets Australian houses on fire.
The only way that any wiring can be tempered with here in Australia is to learn how to produce a special non-conductive palm sweat. This happens to take four years of training.
Of course, special palm sweat doesn't fix all problems. There's also the matter of special paper. This special paper does not necessarily have to be attached to the product being installed, it is so special that it can exist somewhere else and still insulates you from catching on fire by electricity.
This paper happens to cost some money. So does the palm sweat training.
So next time you're considering installing a new thingmabob, make sure you don't kill your neighbourhood. Make sure you buy a product with special paper and get someone with special palm sweat for your installation, and most of all, make sure you start saving your coins cause those things make the houses safer.
Think about the children.
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In NZ for example you can do basic wiring yourself.
I’m far more concerned with product quality, lack of approvals and fire/electrocution risk.
It is very hard to install things like switches, what with colour coded wiring, the labelling on the switches themselves, and the instructions that come with them. There are three wires. That's a lot.
Just last week I was changing the light bulb.
I couldn't remember if it was clockwise or a jerry can of kerosene and a butane torch.
I hope you wrote up a safety plan first. The answer is obviously the kerosene and torch for future reference.
Look like , this is Australia certification approved
http://www.ctec.com.au
Anyone use this? Any review?
Hey,friends, please don't worry. We will have SAA certificate soon
Can you get that for all the other products as well?
i will choose some items which suit for Australia. Could u tell me which item u like?
The downlights without existing au plugs
@asa79: yeah, we have sent all the downlights to Australia to certificate, it will get the SAA in 2 weeks
cant install tho