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[Presale] Kogan 27" Curved QHD 144hz FreeSync Gaming Monitor $359 + Delivery @ Kogan

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[Presale] Kogan 27" Curved QHD 144hz FreeSync Gaming Monitor $359 + Delivery @ Kogan
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Lbakerboo on 15/10/2018 - 10:05 kogan.com (3148 clicks)
Last edited 15/10/2018 - 12:56 by 1 other user

Seems like a good deal on a 27" 144Hz 1440p monitor with Freesync. Not sure of the type of panel, but is specified as a Samsung panel. Ships out 13/11.

EDIT- Adding the specs from the link. Waiting on Kogan to reply for details of the panel.

Dimensions
Dimensions With Stand: 613 x 440.8 x 225.5mm | Without Stand: 613 x 363.2 x 67.7mm
VESA Wall Mount Pattern 75 x 75
Weight 4.4kg

Display
Brightness 250cd/m²
Colours 16.7M
Contrast Ratio 3000:1
Curvature 1800R
Panel Manufacturer Samsung
Pixel/Dot Pitch 0.233 x 0.233mm
Refresh Rate 144Hz
Resolution 2560 x 1440
Response Time 5ms
Size 27"
Viewing Angle 178° / 178°

Features
Freesync Range 48~144Hz
LED Indicator Light Power On: Blue | Power Saving: Blue Flicker

Inputs
DP Yes
HDMI Yes

Power
Standby Consumption 0.5W

Warranty
Manufacturer Warranty 1 Year

EDIT 2- The panel is a VA panel. Thanks @sockmafia

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  • Ryanek on 15/10/2018 - 10:06
    +1

    QHD is VA panel.

    • MetaphorOZB on 15/10/2018 - 10:46

      Anyone got preferences between IPS, TN & VA panels?

      • bakerboo on 15/10/2018 - 11:10
        +5

        I haven't had the pleasure of owning an IPS panel, but my limited knowledge says that IPS is for accurate colours and viewing angles, TN is for rapid response times and VA has qualities of both

      • netsurfer on 15/10/2018 - 11:30
        +3

        I much prefer IPS. No panel is perfect.

        VA - colour shift (when you look at the panel, starting from right in front, then move left or right)
        TN - viewing angle
        IPS - contrast shift (but way better than colour shift)

        Another problem with IPS is dead pixels (a combination of LG quality control and IPS technology). VA is known to suffer less from dead pixel issue.

        The colour shift is very annoying to me so not interested in VA panels at all.

      • tanksinatra on 15/10/2018 - 11:44

        TN panels are cheap and have poor contrast and poor angles. Avoid.
        IPS panels have poor contrast (~1000:1) and good angles
        VA panels have semi-passable contrast (~3000:1) and poor angles.

        • belispeak on 15/10/2018 - 13:12

          How are VA panels only semi passable for contrast if they are the best that you can buy?

          • BradH13 on 15/10/2018 - 16:33
            +2

            @belispeak: They vary in quality. The high end ones contrast is almost pitch black and great.

            Both my TV and monitor are high end VA panels. Wouldn't mess about with any other tech (but OLED) personally.

            IPS glow drives me up the wall. Don't know how people prefer it to VA (how many people look at a screen side on to think colour shift is a 'problem').

            • Jikx on 15/10/2018 - 17:48
              +1

              @BradH13: Depends on content - I love IPS for it's bright and vigrant colours, but in dark games and content - to my eyes, it looks terrible.

              I ended up going with VA+QLED monitor - you get great blacks AND decent colours.

          • tanksinatra on 15/10/2018 - 19:02
            +1

            @belispeak: How are VA panels only semi passable for contrast if they are the best that you can buy?

            It depends how you use it. All transmissive screen technologies (LCD) struggle to produce a good contrast ratio. These limitations become evident in low light environments where the light-filtering fails to produce accurate black levels, especially with TN and IPS panels. VA panels do an passable job but is still a long way off. To improve the contrast ratio you'd need to move to a emissive technology such as OLED however it is not yet available for computer screens.

      • jasswolf on 15/10/2018 - 11:52
        +2

        To be clear, high refresh rate IPS panels are AHVA-IPS. Samsung's VA panels are largely similar to this in quality (particularly the QLED models).

        There's also a TN refresh coming that brings its colour levels and viewing angle much closer to parity, so the lines are starting to blur a bit.

        • TheContact on 15/10/2018 - 12:13

          AHVA is AU Optronics version of LGs IPS technology. Are you confusing it with AH-IPS?

          Though, both companies make high refresh IPS type panels.

          • jasswolf on 15/10/2018 - 12:19
            +1

            @TheContact: I'm not, I'm just making sure people understand that the traditional IPS/VA/TN colour/viewing angle/motion blur split isn't the same straight forward battle in 2018, and even more so in 2019.

            It's a tough split between the CHG70 and the XB271HU, for example.

      • educalifa on 15/10/2018 - 16:19

        I own a AGON 1440p IPS 27" 165Hz but with GSync instead of Freesync. I had tried the TN panels before but I honestly couldn't pick them over how much poorer the image looks compared to IPS (not only color, the image itself seems to lose a bit of definition though that could just be in my head…).

        I bought the monitor mostly to play games but I also watch tons of videos, edit my own videos and pictures on it and etc so even though 'color'
        is not at the very top of my list, it's also something I consider important and IPS does do it significantly better so far.

  • ShortyX on 15/10/2018 - 10:14
    +1

    Freesync over HDMI and DP or just DP?

  • Mishchap on 15/10/2018 - 10:20

    wouldnt this be better?

    • wahkow on 15/10/2018 - 10:22
      +6

      Kogan one is 144hz at 1440p

      The one you referred to is 60hz at 1440p, so the answer is no, in terms of this.

      • Mishchap on 15/10/2018 - 10:53
        +1

        whoops, misread it apologies!

  • gnarlyrocks on 15/10/2018 - 10:23
    +8

    Far out 1440p 144hz montiprs have dropped in price. When I jumped on a couple of years ago anything less than $650 was basically a steal. My past experience with kogan monitors and tvs is that they're great for the price.

    • bakerboo on 15/10/2018 - 11:19
      +1

      Completely agree with Kogan monitors being good value. I have the 24" 144Hz Freesync Kogan monitor and it's still going strong.

      • gnarkill on 15/10/2018 - 11:51

        I also have that monitor and it's good value for the price. My first one had a stuck pixel near the center that I couldn't remove after a few months of trying. Their policy isn't to allow returns for just one stuck pixel although it bugged me a lot so I tried and they did replace it free of charge.

      • wahkow on 15/10/2018 - 13:03

        I have that as well, a solid screen, happy playing CS GO with it. The only bad thing is height cannot be adjusted nor the degree, but a couple of books does the job

  • [Deactivated] on 15/10/2018 - 10:52
    -3

    Response Time 5ms

    Most good gaming monitors are 1ms GTG. If it was an IPS then expected.

    • Aethelbert on 15/10/2018 - 10:56
      +8

      VA has response times similar to IPS, not much you can really do about it.

      Personally I think less than 10ms is acceptable because less than that, input latency and display latency are both far more significant factors.

      EDIT: Just did the math, for 144Hz you only need to beat 6.94ms of latency.

    • ethan961 on 15/10/2018 - 11:10
      +1

      Those monitors are also 5ms BtB. Kogan's 1080p 144hz monitors are advertised as 5ms and they use the same panel as all those others advertising 1ms GtG so I would say they use BtB in their materials.

    • Pacify on 15/10/2018 - 14:28

      144hz is far important than having 1ms vs 5ms

  • pixelman on 15/10/2018 - 11:03

    Hi can this be used as an everyday PC Monitor?

    • PvsNP on 15/10/2018 - 11:05
      +1

      I'm sure you can. Depending on your comfort level with curved pages.

    • ruskiromka on 15/10/2018 - 11:06
      +5

      Yes. Although if you are not into gaming a $200 60Hz IPS will be better value.

    • bakerboo on 15/10/2018 - 11:31
      +1

      If you're keen for a 27" 1440p monitor but won't be using it for heavy gaming, the VA2719-2K might be worth looking at during an eBay sale.

  • EnALup on 15/10/2018 - 11:15
    +1

    Looking for a decent gaming 27" monitor, but not sure if I want it curved.

  • Ceri on 15/10/2018 - 11:19

    Please be IPS

    • Corapmafya on 15/10/2018 - 11:28
      +1

      Specification on the page lists it as VA.

    • Smashed Avo on 15/10/2018 - 16:14

      For this price? One can dream I suppose

  • ciyborg on 15/10/2018 - 11:22
    +3

    Looks like the stand is not height adjustable, damn. Manufacturers always try and skip costs on this

  • Corapmafya on 15/10/2018 - 11:29

    Brightness 250cd/m²
    Colours 16.7M
    Contrast Ratio 3000:1
    Curvature 1800R
    Panel VA
    Panel Manufacturer Samsung
    Pixel/Dot Pitch 0.233 x 0.233mm
    Refresh Rate 144Hz
    Resolution 2560 x 1440
    Response Time 5ms
    Size 27"
    Viewing Angle 178° / 178°

    • bakerboo on 15/10/2018 - 11:34
      +1

      Looks like they updated the description on the page. I'll update the original post.

  • DrMilan on 15/10/2018 - 11:29

    https://www.pccasegear.com/products/44134/aoc-ag272fcx-27in-… $399

    I have a 32inch curved 144hz agon and its brilliant.. i paid $350 for mine (was bought 2nd hand 1 week old) guy wanted the Nvidia sync stuff as he got a 1080Ti so i got a ripper deal.

    • HKS on 15/10/2018 - 11:52

      i was just looking at that one you linked too, the kogan one seems to be a bit better because of 1440p but that aoc one is good too.

  • PvsNP on 15/10/2018 - 11:30

    I know they use a brand name screen and all, but I'd rather stick to known brand names and shell out some extra bucks.

    • spiff on 15/10/2018 - 11:55
      +4

      ok

    • HKS on 15/10/2018 - 11:56
      +1

      what?

  • flyingmouse on 15/10/2018 - 11:34
    +1

    What's the advantage of curved screen, looks a bit weird by picture.

  • Kugz on 15/10/2018 - 12:00

    Can you get free shipping with that Shipster subscription? Have never used it before - I just recall Kogan being on the list.

    Thanks :)

    • rystyle7 on 15/10/2018 - 15:23
      +1

      From Shipster T&C's - To qualify for free shipping, must "…have a total shipping charge (that would otherwise apply) of under $20."

      I'm not sure what this costs to ship, so ymmv.

  • Autonomic on 15/10/2018 - 12:06

    What a ridiculous price. Not the biggest fan of curved screens though.

  • Top G on 15/10/2018 - 12:08

    UHD 144hz Freesync and curved for this price. Wow

    • Demarque on 15/10/2018 - 13:30
      +3

      "QHD" I think you mean ;)

    • Dienk on 15/10/2018 - 13:32
      +1

      Not UHD mate

  • EDM on 15/10/2018 - 12:11

    Replacing Dell U2711 with this, hmmm. Any thoughts?

  • Marrk on 15/10/2018 - 12:23

    Very tempting, was wanting Ultrawide for gaming though probably worth the compromise at this resolution and price.

  • Panama on 15/10/2018 - 13:02

    Is gsync worth the extra $300 if you have nvidia?

    • ChickenAdobo on 15/10/2018 - 13:16

      Depend on your perception of value and if you will get much use of it.

      • Panama on 15/10/2018 - 13:19

        I play a lot of esports titles that run at 144hz for example.

        • ChickenAdobo on 15/10/2018 - 13:20
          +2

          Then you should get it.

    • lethalmoney on 15/10/2018 - 13:23

      Im in the same boat..
      Everyone i know who has bought a gsync monitor has said its worth it, but is that just price justification?

      Im holding out for a 27" 144hz gsync to drop a little more given the gsync hdr is on shelves at a premium adopter price, i see more price rrops once that ridiculous price tag settles.

      This should follow on effect the gen1 gsync screens.

      • Smashed Avo on 15/10/2018 - 16:16
        +1

        HDR is a complete shitshow, don't get your hopes up for G-Sync prices dropping anytime soon.

  • Emphasise on 15/10/2018 - 13:14
    +1

    What happened to their cheap 144Hz 24" monitor? Can't find it anywhere.

  • Daemos on 15/10/2018 - 13:30

    Is there a non curved freesync 1440p 27" monitor?

  • supbah on 15/10/2018 - 13:45

    Can I take advantage of the 144hz refresh rate despite using a Nvidia GTX 970? (G-Sync monitors are quite expensive)

    • [Deactivated] on 15/10/2018 - 14:22

      yes the gtx 970 has both HDMI 2.0 and displayport 1.2 port which will support 144hz @1440p

      you will be able to take advantage of the 144hz smoothness in daily use (smooth mouse and window movement/animation) but it probably wont be possible to get 144FPS out of modern games at full resolution unless you really dial down the settings

      • chriise on 15/10/2018 - 20:10

        I have Sapphire r9 380, which has a 1.2 DP but not 2.0 HDMI. Could I still benefit from the 1440/144 at least for desktop use? The only game I play which I think my PC could easily handle 120+ FPS is CSGO.

        • [Deactivated] on 15/10/2018 - 21:02
          +1

          yes absolutely both DP 1.2 and HDMI 2.0 (or better) support 144hz @1440p

          the kogan monitor does have display port but they don't say which version so you may have to clarify with them. With that in mind I highly doubt they'd put an older display port on a brand new monitor though, that wouldn't make a drop of sense.

      • supbah on 15/10/2018 - 21:49
        +1

        Thanks mate!

    • retardedrabit on 22/10/2018 - 22:12

      No. You need a AMD GPU to use freesync.
      It's not about being able to play games at 144Hz, it's about the GPU and monitor having a synchronized frame rate within a specific frame rate range.

  • DrMilan on 15/10/2018 - 13:50

    curved takes some getting used to, but absolutely love it, i cant even notice its curved now after a year..

  • 00000000 on 15/10/2018 - 15:52

    I owned the 32" Phillips Freesync VA 4ms monitor for all of 8 hours before i returned it.
    With freesync on it kept changing the brightness and caused the monitor to flicker.

    Massive thread here about it
    https://community.amd.com/thread/215821

    Overall the colours are great and sometimes too much. I'm not a fan of VA panels and would rather IPS.

    • Smashed Avo on 15/10/2018 - 16:18

      Yeah, after demoing a lot of different monitors IPS blows TN and VA out of the water, it isn't even close.

      • 00000000 on 15/10/2018 - 17:36
        +1

        I agree, after i returned the phillips i got an Asus gaming monitor. Cost me an extra $350 but was totally worth it. I hardly notice and flare with an IPS.

  • AreYouAWiiizard on 15/10/2018 - 17:58

    Looks good but I'm not a fan of pre-ordering.

    • lethalmoney on 15/10/2018 - 18:08

      Still getting over the Xiaomi robot vacuum debacle?

  • MrMagic1225 on 15/10/2018 - 18:09

    Do people think this is worth pre-ordering for the lower price?

  • chriise on 15/10/2018 - 20:18

    Does Kogan tend to keep pre sale price up to the launch date? And do they charge straight away or at delivery?

    • MrMagic1225 on 15/10/2018 - 22:33
      +3

      I looked at some previous ozbargin posts on presales and it seems kogan raised the price on those items, so my guess would be kogan's going to increase this monitor's price as well.

  • beyondtool on 15/10/2018 - 23:33

    I have a 27in curved Samsung VA panel and the colour reproduction is superb although blacks can tend to be washed out in games with dark scenes that are poorly optimized (Witcher 3 looking at you). However mine maxes out at 75hz I didn’t think any VA panels got anywhere near 100hz?? Sounds like a TN panel to me.

    • tmr3 on 15/10/2018 - 23:57
      +3

      There are definitely high refresh VA panels on the market, but due to the technology you often don't get the full 144 Hz supported by the display as the pixel response times are too high for a true 6.94ms refresh.

  • tmr3 on 15/10/2018 - 23:56
    +5

    So just to clear up some of the differences.

    TN panels have very fast response times and are often cheaper than other display types, but generally have worse colour reproduction and contrast than IPS or VA, and very limited viewing angles. These issues are exacerbated on cheaper TN displays.

    IPS panels have very wide viewing angles, better contrast performance than TN panels (though not quite as good as VA), and decent response times (though not quite as fast as TN), but can suffer from IPS glow, and are often more expensive than other display types.

    VA panels have very high contrast ratios, deep blacks, generally good screen uniformity, and are cheaper than IPS displays, but often suffer from ghosting due to the high response time of the pixels and have more limited viewing angles than IPS panels (though they are better than TN in this regard).

    A true 144 Hz display requires pixels that are able to transition fully within 6.94 ms. From what I've seen, most VA panels have pixel transition times in the 8-12 ms range which is more like 85-125 Hz which can cause ghosting and smearing as the pixels are unable to keep up with a true 144 Hz. That's not strictly a bad thing, you just won't be getting a true native 144 Hz experience.

    If you're into fast paced competitive games, I'd be looking more towards a decent 144 Hz TN display with adaptive sync, or a high quality 144 Hz IPS display with adaptive sync if you have the cash. For most people, if you're not put off by the ghosting, a VA panel will likely be fine, VA panels generally offer good colour reproduction and very good contrast ratios making them excellent for media consumption.

    A quick note on colour reproduction: while TN displays are generally worse, that's not strictly true for all TN displays. A poorly calibrated VA or IPS panel can be just as bad as a bad TN display, just in the opposite way. Rather than having very limited colour reproduction, it's possible for a VA or IPS panel to reproduce too many colours and appear too saturated, for example. Poorly calibrated monitors of any kind can also suffer from inaccurate white points and poor gamma curves.

    I'd be very curious to know just how well the Samsung display in this Kogan monitor is calibrated out of the box, and how much control is offered in self calibration by the end user. A 144 Hz QHD VA display for $360 is a very good price, so I wonder just how many cutbacks have been made.

    • chriise on 16/10/2018 - 09:05
      +1

      So the spec states a 5ms response time - is that the same as pixel transition time? If so, are we calling BS on that spec?

  • DaTa on 16/10/2018 - 01:11
    +1

    I'd change my gpu for freesync lol

  • Serathis on 16/10/2018 - 20:36

    argh bought this shit and forgot to enter referral code FML $10 :(

  • chriise on 20/11/2018 - 21:55

    Anyone get this delivered today and have any feedback on calibration? The blacks are not super black, but I know I'm coming from an IPS so can't really complain.

    • rowdywabbid on 23/11/2018 - 12:30

      Are you getting a screen door effect like horizontal lines with yours? I notice it when looking at certain darker colours.

      • chriise on 23/11/2018 - 13:48

        I wasn't sure if it was my mind playing tricks on me but yeh I occasionally notice that. Seems to bloom a little too.

        edit: However i did not notice any screen door effect when running EIZO pixel tests on solid colour screen. I'm going to do some more test later.

        • rowdywabbid on 23/11/2018 - 14:17

          Ok I can confirm my monitor is messed up. I made this solid grey image https://imgur.com/a/VdQQEu3 and dragged it on different parts of the screen. When I drag this image to the mid bottom left area of the screen, the lines are not on the image and it looks normal like on any other display.

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