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Westpac Altitude Black Mastercard/AmEx (80k & 40k QFF Points) - $0 Annual Fee First Year

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Same deal as the one that expired on 5 Sept.. It seems Westpac has extended it until 27 Nov 2018.

Mastercard

80,000 bonus Qantas Points*
When you apply, are approved, and spend $3,000 on eligible purchases on your new Westpac Altitude Black card within 90 days of card approval. $0 Annual Card fee
in the first year ($250 p.a. thereafter, plus a $50 Qantas Rewards fee p.a. thereafter)+.

AmEx

40,000 bonus Qantas Points~
When you apply, and spend $3,000 on eligible purchases on your new American Express® Westpac Altitude Black Card within 90 days of Card approval. $0 Annual Card fee in the first year ($199 p.a. thereafter)#.

Minimum Income $75,000
American Express® Westpac Altitude Black Card
2 Qantas Points for every $1 spent on eligible purchases in foreign currency,
1.25 Qantas Points for every $1 spent on eligible purchases in Australia,
0.5 Qantas Point for every $1 spent at government bodies in Australia such as Australia Post & the Australian Taxation Office.
Westpac Altitude Black Mastercard
0.75 Qantas Points for every $1 spent on eligible purchases.
Enjoy two complimentary passes each year to the American Express Airport Lounge at either Sydney or Melbourne International Airports.
Two complimentary Qantas lounge passes

Annual fee waived only if you apply for the bundle.

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      • +1

        I pay for the Equifax service and monitor mine.

        The score gradually rises every few months of not applying for a credit card, but if you cancel one, it gets a sudden boost.

        I tried applying with a 670 score at one point, and got rejected.

        So switching cards every year is fine, but try not to do too many applications within a 3-6 month period.

  • Hi. My understanding is that St George and Westpac are one and the same. If I have just cancelled a St George card am I in the "12 month waiting period before being eligible for the Qantas points" for Westpac as well?

    • +2

      They aren't one and the same - Westpac is the parent company of their subsidiary St George.

      They may cross streams at times (such as branches, services, etc) but as a customer, you belong to one or the other, or both. But they don't exclude you from using the others services.

      • Brilliant - thank you

  • If I had an existing American express card, would I get the 40k if I applied for this bundle?

    • +2

      Yes. I have a platinum edge Amex card and have confirmed with a consultant that you can

  • would I be eligible to get the points if I have existing card with Westpac (Altitude Platinum)??

    • +3

      "Existing Westpac customers who currently hold an Altitude Platinum Visa Card or Altitude Black Mastercard, or who have held one in the last 12 months, are not eligible for this offer."

      • +1

        For what it's worth, I made the mistake of signing up for the Altitude Platinum Visa/Amex cards yesterday. Approved but not sent yet. I was told on the phone that I could wait until the cards come, apply to upgrade to the black package (no additional credit queries but a higher limit required) and still receive the 120k bonus points. That may be relevant to others.

  • These cards have no interest free periods?!

    • I clarified with Westpac. They do indeed has a 45 day interest free period, but they forgot to put it on the website.

  • Needing some advice: Should I apply for this double card or better off applying for ANZ black?

    • Anz black is not free anymore this deal is the best at the moment

      • Thanks for that =)

      • +3

        Actually ANZ is available with no annual fee currently BUT the catch is you need to have an ANZ account already, and you need to follow the link via ANZ internet banking -> Apply -> Credit cards -> scroll down to the "ANZ Frequent Flyer cards" section, and the ANZ Frequent Flyer Black and ANZ Frequent Flyer Platinum are both listed with no annual fee.

        • +2

          I can confirm I took this approach by first applying for a saver account. Once that was done within a few hours, I logged in and applied for the ANZ Black. The 75k QFF has now been registered…waiting for it to sweep in to the Qantas platform now.

        • @Aussie Frequent Liar: I know it's off topic but..what is the minimum income for the ANZ black

    • If you also want the Amex perks then do not go with ANZ.

      • What are the AMEX perks?

        • More points per dollar spent, shop small thing in November…

  • is it similar travel insurance as amex?
    no access fee for airplane/travel delay?

  • Damn, I rushed my application in for the last one and then got denied… hahaha

    oh well.

  • 2x free pairs of RM's?

  • Does this also waive the $50 fee for redeeming Qantas points?

    • +2

      yes it's all free

  • I was declined this card end of July. Can i applied for this again say in Novermber?
    My credit Score is ~640

    • +2

      If your financial situation has changed. Eg got a new higher paying job, then you may have a chance to successfully apply. If nothing has changed then I would not bother.

      • I had a mortgage back in July which i "forgot" to mention in my application because it was in the process of transfer.
        Now i no longer have a mortgage to pay and i do want the card soon because my ANZ card annual fee is less than a month away.

  • Does anyone know or have any experience if having a supplementary card in your name (both MC and AMEX) disqualifies you for the sign up bonus if you subsequently open your own account?

    • It does not disqualify you. Only the Primary Cardholder is subject to exclusion periods.

  • I currently have Bankwest platinum mastercard & Amex platinum edge. Can I still apply for these cards?

  • I signed up but it was extremely glitchy. Some of my colleagues were audited too despite supplying all the details and exceeding the minimum income required. Hope I get my points as a few people on WP said that even though you link your card to QFF you still need to call up.

  • +1

    Can someone please tell me if they ask for proof of income during the application? I'm starting a new job very soon after months off so don't have anything recent, but I want to use it asap to pay for some upcoming bills.

    • +1

      Yes they ask the last 2 payslips

    • Yeah, they give the option of either sending them the last 2 payslips, or letting them log into your bank account to confirm regular income payments.

    • Cool thanks for the answers

  • Is this the best deal out there currently - i want to purchase some flights & holiday that i will instantly pay off but i want the extra point and then probably keep the card for 6 months and cancel.
    Is this good in my case?

    • Remember, you get complementary travel insurance if you pay for your flights using this card, so worth keeping it until after the travel (provided that is less than 12 months away)

      • Yep definitely, 1st credit card so trying to be extremely cautious.

        • No worries, I was there not long ago.
          Definitely take advantage of it! I'd buy the flights+holiday stuff, then pop it in a draw with a reminder to cancel a couple of weeks before the next years fee is charged.

    • definitely the best at the moment 120k for free it's not often

  • I can't see how to add additional card holders as part of the application process.

    Can this be done or do I need to do it later?

  • Thanks OP. Jumped on this as I have over 6K in renovation stuff to pay for and an OS trip in Feb.
    Just got approved so this is big help.

  • Does anyone know if paying tax to ATO count towards the eligible spending? Thanks!

    • I called westpac with this question and the answer was a definite no. But if you look at the terms and conditions it just says cash advances, balance transfers etc are not eligible, no mention about ATO..

      • +1

        Yeah, the exclusions do not mention anything about government fees, such as rates, rego and tax…
        AMEX
        Bonus points promotion:
        Eligible purchases do not include cash advances, interest, balance transfers, fees and charges for traveller’s cheques and foreign currencies.

        Qantas Points:
        0.5 Qantas Point for every $1 spent at government bodies in Australia such as Australia Post & the Australian Taxation Office.

        Master
        Bonus points promotion:
        Eligible purchases do not include fees, cash, cash equivalent transactions, BPAY, BPAY equivalent transaction, refunds and balance transfers debited from the card account.

        Rewards Points:
        You do not earn Qantas Points on payments to the Australian Taxation Office.

        From previous post someone mentioned that:
        “I spoke with AmEx regarding whether council rates were applicable.

        They said anything will count towards the minimum spend as long as it's not annual fee charge, interest charges or anything related to charges from the card itself.”

        but I didn't found feedbacks whether they got the bonus points or not. So it is still a bit unclear. Maybe I should bite the bullet and try…

        • Thanks for the clarification. I have my rates and car rego due so they will easily help get me over the line!

  • I received an approval email yesterday from Westpac but haven't received anything from Amex yet. Has anyone else?

    • My Amex approval came through minutes after the Mastercard one.

      • sigh, that is what I was afraid of. I think their system has a lot of glitches in it and randomly does not submit the application to Amex

        • Hi Introspective. Did you end up hearing back from Amex? I got immediate approval from Westpac yesterday but havent heard back from Amex in the last day.

          • +1

            @ttam87: Yes I did.

            I applied on a Friday and got the instant conditional approval from Westpac but nothing from Amex.

            I received a call from Westpac the following Tuesday to ask a question about my application. As soon as I answered the question I received another instant email/text from Westpac telling me the that I was now unconditionally approved. 2 mins later I received a email/text from Amex advising I was approved by them as well.

            2 days later I received a call from my local Westpac branch advising the card was ready to pick up. The Amex card was waiting for me in the mail when I got home.

            • @Introspective: Thanks for replying. Thats good news.

              Ive already been properly approved by Westpac on Thursday (one conditional approved email and then one approved email a bit later). But have heard nothing from Amex. Will call them on Monday.

              Thanks again

              • @ttam87: Hi ttam87, did you hear back from Amex? I'm on the same boat as you, approved by Westpac but no news from Amex yet. Westpac's approval email said that they passed the application to Amex already.
                Thanks for any feedback.

                • @Shopping Fig: Yep. So they said in the Westpac email they sent the details to Amex. I called Amex and they said they didnt receive anything, and to check with Westpac to see if they didnt reject my amex application in their preliminary screening. So i checked with Westpac again and they said they didnt reject the amex application, so they will write an email to Amex and get them to call me, otherwise to call Westpac back again and they can try and escalate it.

                  Its a huge stuff around, and I dont have much hope that Westpac and Amex will care to sort it out amongst themselves. We'll see how we go.

                  I got more help from the second operator when i called Westpac the second time (ie they offered to send an email to amex, while the first operator said "sorry we cant help"), so your luck may vary when you call them.

                • @Shopping Fig: Let me know how you go sorting it out, and if you get a different answer to me.

                  • @ttam87: Thanks. I called Amex yesterday and, oh surprise, they couldn't find my application, but they told me that sometimes Westpac takes a few days to send the applications through. Westpac told me that they don't have control over that application and I need to deal directly with Amex (according to Westpac they sent the application to Amex already, but it sounded like a blank statement not something checked on their systems).
                    I might call again this arvo and see what is the story this time.
                    P.S.: The Amex guy told me that if I was approved for the MC, then 99% of the time the Amex application gets approved as well (threshold is lower?)
                    I'll keep everyone posted. Cheers.

                    • @Shopping Fig: Thanks for the reply. Thats exactly what I was told. I reckon try calling Westpac again and get them to email Amex (even though i havent heard back from Amex yet after Westpac emailed them 2 days ago). It seems like we are not the only ones in this thread with this issue either.

                      • @ttam87: Update: Called Amex again, same story, no application under my name and Westpac's Ref No is not good on their system (can't get dumber than this).
                        Called Westpac again, according to them application has been sent through, but they will send an email to Amex to check what's the issue (I asked them to CC me on the email but they are not allowed to).
                        Finally, the guy told me to call them (Westpac) again if I don't hear from Amex in the next couple of days.
                        What a moronic system.

                        • @Shopping Fig: Hey. I called Amex and Westpac again today. Same story as before. I got Westpac to send another email to Amex. I also sent a written complaint to Westpac and mentioned that i will escalate it to the financial ombudsman if they do not resolve the issue. So we'll wait and see.

                          • @ttam87: Hey, so an email from Amex arrived this morning (1 am) saying that they received my application and they will let me know the outcome in 5-10 business days (really?). I think they were waiting for daylight saving to kick in.

                            As a reference for the others suffering this glitch, I got approved on Tuesday, Westpac sent an email to Amex on Thursday (after I called them a couple of times, thanks ttam87 for the tip) and Amex email received on Sunday. Now to wait and see if I get approved. Good luck.

                            On a separate note, I realised I gave Westpac my wife's QFF number instead of mine, has anyone been able to change QFF numbers without affecting their bonus points and lounge passes? Otherwise I'll just keep using my wife's number (although she cannot be trusted with those) and family transfer them later. Cheers.

                            • @Shopping Fig: Update: Another email from Amex at 10 am asking for proof of income (which I already gave Westpac, so they didn't pass that information to Amex).

                              I sent the information already, let's wait and see.

                              • @Shopping Fig: Thanks for getting back to me. That's great news!

                                I still haven't received an email from Amex, but now there's a bit of hope.

                                My application process started earlier than yours (in late September), so that's a bit concerning. Will wait and see.

                              • @Shopping Fig: Ok just got the standard Amex email. Finally.

                                • @ttam87: who have you guys been emailing/calling?

                                  Same boat, main CC all approved and sitting at the bank, zero email re amex approval, so its likely its stuck in limbo and I need someone to poke it with a stick.

                                  • @SBOB: and with that, i finally got an email/sms about approval

                                    Seems there must have been some backlog in the Westpac->Amex pipe ;)

                                    • @SBOB: re: amex got acknowledgment email yest, got approval today

                                      keep calling westpac applications department and then escalate to customer experience manager if necessary

                                • +1

                                  @ttam87: That's great. Based on the other messages below, it seems that Westpac and Amex got their sh… stuff together now.

                                  Note: After providing the additional info Amex requested, I got a call from them confirming some of my details before getting approved.

                                  Cheers

  • Advice please…..I applied for the black altitude card which arrived yesterday, but I have realised that I would have been better off with the platinum as 5here is no $250 fee. My husband has the black bundle so I really only want the card for the bonus points and would be better not paying for the privilege.
    Am I likely to be accepted for the platinum card when I have just received the black? Is there a way of canceling that card so it doesn’t affect my application?

    • This bundle has no fee provided you can meet the spending requirements $3000 in 3 months per card.

      And no, unfortunately, you won't be able to apply for the platinum card AND receive the bonus points since you just got approved for the black one. Your credit searches have already been done and applied

  • +1

    Yes .. paying rate on the council website do count toward the 3k spend. I have recieved the 40k bonus points from amex.. still nothing from westpac … amex provide much better services and you can check all the points through the app and they transfer it to qantas very promptly…

  • +3

    Not a bad offer. Applied, got cards, hit the required limits, got the 120k Qantas points, closed account all in less than two months ha

    Sold points at 1.5c as well. Nice easy $1800 + applied for the $50 free for a new bank account. I hate Westpac, so feels good to of used them.

  • how do you sell the points at 1.5c?

    • Fraudulently??

      • I sold them to a Cousin… So a family transfer

        • something I am always wondering, why people buy points ?

  • Does westpac give out different card number to primary card holder when applying for a secondary amex card?

    • Yes

  • Is there balance offer on this card?

    • I mean balance transfer offer.

  • I signed up for this and was approved over the weekend however when I signed up I opted for the Altitude rewards program rather than Qantas, does this mean I will get 120k Altitude points?

    I see Altitude points only convert to Velocity at 2:1 so the 120k bonus points would only be worth 60k Velocity vs Qantas.

    Note - I am a Velocity collector usually but would still take the 120k Qantas over the 60k Velocity.

    Can anyone shed any light?

    Thanks

    • That is correct. Maybe you can ask to change?

    • This was my issue. Hence my comment above, I sold the Qantas points (has risks) and then used that to upgrade or buy Velocity. Not a bad trade seeing as sold the Qantas ones for 1.5c and bought Velocity at 1c :p

      All up, got the card, sold 120k Qantas points, bought 180k Velocity.

      • Sounds like you just ripped off your cousin. I'd love to be in your family

        • +1

          Cousin is the family term used to transfer the points. 😂 So people can sell them and not violate Qantas T&C. If it was true family it would of been free.

    • In similar boat. New to the points game, so chose altitude as read a comment saying it was more flexible, which while true, seems to offer less in terms of overall value than qff.

      Not planning to spend the money for another month or so. Hoping someone has called up to find out if we can switch, otherwise I'll get on it sometime this week when I'm free.

      • I made the same mistake. Called Westpac and they switched to QFF for me. They charged me $50 however, they gave me a link to join QFF for free. I don't know if the free joining was always part of the deal for non-QFF members.

        Called Amex and they did the switch, no fee. Both told me to wait up to 10 days. Westpac told me to call them to check as there's no prompt on their side while Amex said they will call me when it happened.

        Both says there will be no back dating and I'll be earning Altitude points till the switch. Both says once I meet the $3K spend on each card, the sign-up bonus will be rewarded on what current rewards program I am on. So I'll be waiting a couple of weeks till I book my Japan trip.

  • They didn't send my Amex application through. Do I still got the 80k bonus and annual fee waiver

    • did they tell you why ? my understanding is that the offer is only for the bundle even if you don't use your amex

      • It just mentioned I didn't meet the criteria so they aren't passing it on to Amex

        • sorry missed that. Maybe call westpac to confirm :)

        • Done that, guy on phone said I get fee waived and 80k points but felt like he didn't know about the bundle requirement

  • Got approved and noticed that annual fee is listed as the following;

    "$250.00 annual fee. Charged to your account following the first cash advance or credit purchase transaction and charged to your account in subsequent years on or after the anniversary of the first charge."

    Doesn't say anything about it being waivered for the first year but I'm assuming that's just because it's a generic email for the card?

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