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Seagate Expansion 8TB Desktop External HD USB 3.0 (STEB8000100) - US $162.46 Shipped (~$208 AUD) Delivered @ Amazon US

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Great deal on a 8TB hard drive, after wating for a no delivery on the Toshiba 6TB.

Easy and simple to use - simply plug in the power adapter and USB cable
Fast file transfers with SuperSpeed USB 3.0
System Requirements : Windows 8, Windows 7 operating system. Compatible with USB 3.0 and USB 2.0
Drag and drop file saving for Windows, right out of the box.Dimensions (L x W x H):6.93 x 4.75 x 1.44" (176.00 x 120.60 x 36.60 mm)
Mac compatibility Requires reformatting. Reformatting the Drive will erase all content unless it is backed up to another Drive. Refer to application guide for guidance.

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  • negatron on 08/01/2018 - 10:43

    Been looking for one to shuck, any idea what drive is in there?

    • knobbs on 08/01/2018 - 11:18
      +1

      Considering the price is around $25/TB I was hoping to do something like this for some extra storage. How difficult is it to 'shuck' these? I have never done one myself before.

      • CH on 08/01/2018 - 12:11

        Not hard, www.youtube.com/watch?v=82D_VxVeolc

      • vicerum on 08/01/2018 - 14:29
        +2

        Its really easy. Get yourself a thin blade, a flat head screwdriver and a couple old credit cards. Once you pry open one corner the tabs was snap off easily when you twist the screwdriver in between the plastic.

        It's an Archive 8TB drive inside.

    • [Deactivated] on 08/01/2018 - 17:22

      Only downside is you don't get any warrenty compare to buying actual drives.

    • Whisper Quiet on 09/01/2018 - 10:07

      Definitely only worth schucking… It's majority Archive drives. If you get anything else it's a real bonus. Had a couple of these in the past and they are poor quality drives and hardware. AC Adapter stopped working in one (Lucky I had another one spare) but also both drives were clicking and crunching and spitting :)
      Transferred everything off ASAP. This was after about a year for both drives. Only Seagate drive I haven't had an issue with is the 1TB portable slim model. Probably had around 5 or 6 drives from Seagate, all of them having some issues along the way.

  • bdl on 08/01/2018 - 10:43
    +7

    FYI all, apparently 5900rpm Archive drive (ST8000AS0002) or Green Barracuda non-Archive ST8000DM004 inside.

    https://lime-technology.com/forums/topic/58783-8tb-seagate-e…

    • Smigit on 08/01/2018 - 10:58
      +1

      Awesome. Thanks for the info.

    • yanman on 08/01/2018 - 11:24

      Arg that's a big or :/ If it's archive then i'm keen, if it's not then hell naw!

      • incipient on 08/01/2018 - 11:27
        +5

        Really? The archives are generally pretty bad drives unless you're using them as a write-once drive. If you got a green I'd be happy to take it off your hands =P

        From past deals and stuff I've read they're nearly always archives.

        • yanman on 08/01/2018 - 14:40

          Derp I meant to type that the opposite - was braining something else at the same time :p Hell no do I want archive drives in a NAS!!

        • etchomojay on 08/01/2018 - 17:09

          Archive, yuck!

        • Dex on 08/01/2018 - 20:37

          I was looking at the 8Tb Archive (ST8000AS0002) the other day on the PLE website ($367 for a pre-shucked version) and did a bit of google'ing to see what I could find out about them.

          As near as I can gather, they're actually great if you're using it for media storage, which is essentially write-once. There were quite a few people in the plex forums that recommended them.

      • bdl on 08/01/2018 - 12:17

        I would say the other way around - if it was archive I wouldn't be keen! It's all of nothing with the Shucking Gamble <tm>! :)

      • darknebula on 08/01/2018 - 13:43
        -1

        Would definitely prefer archive drives as well, some great info on the unraid forums about how these perform

    • meniac on 08/01/2018 - 12:15

      Last one I got had: ST8000AS0002. Easy to remove…. :)
      Should I get a third one now ??? BABY, Wake Up…. !!!!

    • giventofly on 08/01/2018 - 12:21

      I want to use this to back up my NAS - would Green drives be suitable for rare use?

      • bdl on 08/01/2018 - 12:37

        Yes

        • garage sale on 08/01/2018 - 16:22

          yes, green drives just park head quicker to save power so not good for torrents, but fine for backing up NAS.

    • Kegsta on 08/01/2018 - 13:09

      It will have a ST8000DM004 (Barracuda Compute) which is also an archive drive (and IMO worse than the old archives due to being louder and higher fail rates)
      Do not confuse this with the new Barracuda Pro 8TB helium drives which are ST8000DM0004 (one extra 0)

      The first one I got died within a few hours but Amazon payed return postage, Price dropped and WD's are to expensive in Aus so I gave it a second chance, my second Barracuda Compute is doing fine so far.

      • resisting the urge on 08/01/2018 - 13:29

        Some sellout hack working for Seagate's corporate rulers (originally a Cayman Islands corporation, then moved to Ireland and of whom now the investors are not all known), figured out that when people buy the wrong model, they usually keep it and buy the right one- and if they do, the retailer just sells it on anyhow, so confusing everyone drives sales directly, as well as increasing the stock on hand in shops.

        Once a dirty wr0tt3n b45t4rd, always a…

    • hutsy on 20/01/2018 - 21:31

      For the record, mine arrived yesterday and it has an ST8000DM004-2CX188 drive inside. Also the power brick has fixed US pins (not the multi region adapter pack that Seagate externals used to ship with).

      Seq Read: 190 MB/s
      Seq Write: 53 MB/s

      Main Information
      Name Value
      LBA Support Yes
      LBA28 268435455
      LBA48 15628053168
      ATA Version ATA8-ASC-3
      Logical Sector Size 512 bytes
      First Logical Sector Offset 16384
      Cache size Not Reported
      ECC bytes Not Reported
      Nominal Form factor Not Reported
      RPM 5425
      Interface SATA
      Connected through USB Bus

      DMA Support
      Name Value
      DMA Support Yes
      Multiword DMA 0 Supported
      Multiword DMA 1 Supported
      Multiword DMA 2 Supported
      UDMA 0 Supported
      UDMA 1 Supported
      UDMA 2 Supported
      UDMA 3 Supported
      UDMA 4 Supported
      UDMA 5 Supported
      UDMA 6 Selected

      PIO Support
      Name Value
      PIO Support Yes
      PIO 0 Supported
      PIO 1 Supported
      PIO 2 Supported
      PIO 3 Supported
      PIO 4 Supported

      Features Support
      Name Value
      SATA Gen3 6.0 Gb/s Supported
      SATA Gen2 3.0 Gb/s Supported
      SATA Gen1 1.5 Gb/s Supported
      ATA8-AST Supported
      SATA 1.0a Supported
      SATA II: Extensions Supported
      SATA Rev 2.5 Supported
      SATA Rev 2.6 Supported
      SATA Rev 3.0 Supported
      SATA Rev 3.1 Supported
      SATA Rev 3.2 Not Supported
      Software Settings Preservation Enabled
      Commands queue Supported
      Queue depth 32
      NCQ Supported
      NCQ Priority Information Not Supported
      Unload while NCQ Not Supported
      TCQ Not Supported
      Host Protected Area (HPA) Supported
      Automatic Acoustic Management (AAM) Not Supported
      Advanced Power Management (APM) Not Supported
      Power Management Supported
      Read look-ahead Enabled
      Write cache Supported
      Password Protection Supported
      SMART Enabled
      Device Configuration Overlay (DCO) Supported
      General Purpose Logging (GPL) Supported
      Streaming feature Not Supported
      SMART self-test Supported
      SMART error log Supported
      SCT Command Transport Supported
      SCT Long Sector Access Not Supported
      SCT Write Same Supported
      SCT Error Recovery Control Not Supported
      SCT Features Control Not Supported
      SCT Data Tables Supported
      Extended Status Reporting Disabled
      Free-fall Control Not Supported
      Trusted command set Not Supported
      Sanitize Features Supported
      Block Erase Extended Not Supported
      Overwrite Extended Supported
      Crypto Scramble Extended Not Supported
      CFast Specification Not Supported
      Data Management Not Supported
      SED Encryption Not Supported

  • aidhan on 08/01/2018 - 11:30

    So is the drive in this any faster or slower than the backup models?

    • incipient on 08/01/2018 - 11:47

      Currently most 8tb drives in these external drives are archives in which case speeds will be about the same.

      Archives can suffer crippling write speed drop off in most cases other than sequential writes. Otherwise read speed of these will all be about the same. I'd risk neither of these drives for anything but occasional offline backup.

      • aidhan on 08/01/2018 - 12:16

        Thanks, guess I won’t be getting one for the Steam library

        • incipient on 08/01/2018 - 12:30

          Haha yeah. If you can, no better home for a game than an ssd!

        • garage sale on 08/01/2018 - 16:24

          yep 1 TB of SSD steam …… seem to have money for a steam SSd but not iPhone ?????

  • travs on 08/01/2018 - 11:53
    +2

    FWIW, I have one and I like it. It holds my plex archive and I've had no issues so far.

    • RocketSwitch on 08/01/2018 - 12:37

      Any issues with playback on the Plex with this?

      • pw2002au on 08/01/2018 - 12:44
        +2

        I also use with plex. Slow to write to but no problems with read rate or 1080p playback. Haven't got 4k to test with though.

    • Smigit on 08/01/2018 - 12:52
      +1

      Yep planning to put one in my home media server. Last I looked the archive drives performed just fine for reads and given the drives only used for media hosting I'm not fussed about write performance.

    • sageownz on 08/01/2018 - 18:44

      Would this be a good idea for a media server (Kodi), about 4 users streaming ~1080p ~5000Kbps with/wout a large buffer at user end or maybe some 4TB in raid for performance? Maybe shedule write times as I guess it will be unusable if r/w at same time?

  • bdl on 08/01/2018 - 12:18

    If non-shucked, what is the warranty on these considering from Amazon.com? Still International return-to-Seagate or do we have to send to Amazon?

  • hollykryten on 08/01/2018 - 12:42

    This doesn't come with an AU power adapter. I think i'll give it a miss.

    • [Deactivated] on 08/01/2018 - 12:51
      +1

      I bought a dozen US-AU adapters for $6 a couple of months ago (because I was moving back here from the US and had a lot of devices with US plugs). They're not exactly an exotic item.

      • voltagex on 08/01/2018 - 13:20
        +1

        Use a multimeter to check if the earth pin is actually connected.

        • bdl on 08/01/2018 - 13:45

          Often these external HD power supplies don't have an earth pin (even in AU)

        • [Deactivated] on 09/01/2018 - 14:50

          Most of the devices I use them with don't even have earth pins to begin with.

  • jastreb on 08/01/2018 - 12:54
    +1

    Would this drive be ok for playing my media files through kodi on a raspberry pi? I am currently running a 5TB drive and I wouldn't mind a larger drive so I can put more media on it. Any advice?I don't mind the initial process being slow of copying files on to it but I want to make sure some of my blu-ray large media files play without any issues. Thanks in advance.

  • melvic23 on 08/01/2018 - 12:58

    I'd love to know if the drive inside is an 8TB Seagate Archive HDD. Perfect for Plex storage!

  • resisting the urge on 08/01/2018 - 13:39

    2 years ago these were $249 or so, IIRC. Works for backup, but for other work I wouldn't use one, the error correction works overtime, so I fear something will give if used to do lots of writes.

    • havebeerbelywillsumo on 08/01/2018 - 14:06

      "2 years ago" they wouldn't have the possibility of the naturally cheaper archive drive being enclosed at a guess, could be wrong.

      • resisting the urge on 08/01/2018 - 14:27

        Yep, I bought a bare drive, didn't see them in any enclosures back then

  • Godric on 08/01/2018 - 13:56

    Seagate is doing my head in with my 8TB, if u plan on using its dashboard, imo don't lol

  • The Value on 08/01/2018 - 13:58
    +1

    Thanks for this deal!

    The Xbox 4TB Seagate drive from Harvey Norman got cancelled.

  • havebeerbelywillsumo on 08/01/2018 - 14:00
    +2

    I'd have to say it'd be really unethical practice to be putting archive drives in these when they are offered for "normal" use.

    IMO, if bought for an external, I'd return as "not fit for purpose" if I found an archive drive inside so immediate check and return using 30(?) day Amazon guarantee.

    The race to the bottom continues

    • resisting the urge on 08/01/2018 - 14:05

      Makes you wonder who sets the standard for integrity and truth at Seagate corporation, someone in a tax-haven, or someone in a third party advertising agency?

      Drives sold bare/separately may have more warranty than these do when they are locked inside a USB shell. Maybe those with a higher error rate go to the shell vendors even.

      • stonkered on 08/01/2018 - 14:15

        I also think the fact they are 'portable' is a good excuse to knock the warranty down.

        • resisting the urge on 08/01/2018 - 14:25

          C: 'It's not working…'
          V: 'You must have dropped it. Look, it says right here in the warranty, "Not covered against being unpacked, connected or moved around"'

  • frozenkuku on 08/01/2018 - 14:28

    my movie storage drive for my nvdia shield is full now
    looking for another bigger drive for a while

    should I buy this one or WD 8TB My Book Desktop External ?

    • tho760 on 08/01/2018 - 15:56

      WD for sure, I think the WD have helium drives as well that are akin to their red drives

  • THEMAN_AUS on 08/01/2018 - 14:45

    can't imagine what happens when the drives die. you'll lose 8gb of data.

    • Smigit on 08/01/2018 - 14:56
      +2

      Important data should be backed up as with any other hard drive irrespective of the size.

      • Cheaplikethebird on 08/01/2018 - 17:13
        +1

        There are two types of people in this world…

        • Smigit on 08/01/2018 - 17:31
          +2

          And Here’s me thinking there are 10 types, those that understand binary and those that do not.

        • Antikythera on 08/01/2018 - 18:11
          +1

          @Smigit: …and those who didn't expect the joke to be in ternary.

    • sageownz on 08/01/2018 - 18:52

      Im at the point where I have a database for all my video storage (download,size,name,subs etc), so that there's no worry to losing it. This is why I still consider this drive, being seagate and crap, usable.

  • Black Hole on 08/01/2018 - 15:36

    Bought 2 so I can mirror raid this for backup.

    • hutsy on 08/01/2018 - 16:01
      +2

      I would advise against that approach. I think it's slightly better to keep one in the USB case and do a weekly or monthly sync (if you're using windows just use Robocopy, if you are using linux then use rsync). That way you have a backup in case one fails, but you also have an air-gaped backup (assuming you unplug directly after the sync) in case you get hit with data corruption or crypto/some other virus.

      • Black Hole on 08/01/2018 - 16:20

        It depends on how often you need a backup. If this is frequent, may as well mirror raid it to save time. Time is money :). Thank you for Robocopy suggestion. I will look into this. I use Syncthing between my server and pc.

        • Smigit on 08/01/2018 - 17:14

          My personal strategy in my server is to duplicate everything (I run Stablebit Drivepool with duplication enabled) to protect against drive failure and then run Crashplan to get offsite backups which I consider better than just an external you connect and disconnect, as there's some disasters that won't protect against. Would hate to be disconnecting the drive and have something valuable you'd done in the past few days disapear because you hadn't got around to plugging the second drive in. Disconnecting a drive also won't protect from robocopy sending over a corrupted version unless you check for it anyway, you'll want versioning for that. Still, its better than nothing.

          May need to look at an alternative to Crashplan in the future as they removed consumer plans, but it's working fine for now and the cost of two PCs may not be worth me moving off the small business plan I'm on.

        • sageownz on 08/01/2018 - 18:54

          Check out Allway sync, been using it for quite a while & is simple with good comparisons to avoid accidental deletion etc.

  • xev on 08/01/2018 - 15:52
    +1

    Great deal but in my experience Seagate external HD's always end up failing, Western Digital's I have never had a problem with.

  • dna level c on 08/01/2018 - 18:37
    +2

    Everuone do yourself a favour when you order this from Amazon, get an American powerboard (aka power strip), a good US to AU Outlet adapter and a pack of these https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00CEJW0WQ

    Do it at the same time you order the drive to save on shipping.

    I'm running 4 of these drives, lov'em

    • granthamana on 08/01/2018 - 18:39

      That is a pretty cool idea, thanks

      • dna level c on 08/01/2018 - 18:42

        I wish I could find an affordable decent Aussie version of the short little mains extension cables.

    • videoman on 09/01/2018 - 16:47

      Can you recommend a good American powerboard (aka power strip) that we can get cheap with combined postage for this deal?

  • dna level c on 08/01/2018 - 18:41
    -1

    I got the Hub version of the 8TB Seagate for $163.95 a month ago.

  • raydragon on 09/01/2018 - 09:07

    It's been marked as expired but you still seem to be able to order them at the above price, albeit only 1 per order now.

  • The Value on 18/01/2018 - 19:04

    It’s back in stock but an extra $10US.

  • DonWilson on 18/01/2018 - 22:55

    This is why I don't order single HDDs from overseas.

    Couldn't resist this price. Ordered back on the 8th. Arrived today. Plugged it in… DOA, drive making clunking sounds on arrival.

    I'm sending it back and thankfully Amazon have a decent return policy including paying $15USD for shipping returns which won't cover the return cost but hey, better than nothing.

    But still. Delivery people all along the line don't give no cares about single drives. They bounce all over the place during delivery as a result. It is not the same as bulk drives delivered on palates to countries then distributed packed in large boxes to retailers. Single drives shipped through normal shipping sources get a lot more shock damage.

    • DonWilson on 21/01/2018 - 00:52

      $45 for untracked and $52 for tracked. Thanks auspost. Jesus.

      • DonWilson on 22/01/2018 - 18:33

        And the replacement is DOA too. Great.

        • frozenkuku on 26/01/2018 - 03:40

          something wrong with the person you dealing with,
          amazon always paid return shipping in full.
          I dealt with this issue many times, even the dent box can request a replacement.

  • techhead on 06/02/2018 - 21:30

    Down to $149.99 USD at the time of posting this.

    My 4 arrived today. Very pleased for the price. No issues, drives work fine in my instance. Seagate Barracuda compute ST8000DM004 drives inside mine http://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51eCqVfTTNL.… DOM 11/2017 with an ASMEDIA USB-SATA bridge chip. TLDR = If you bust the controller connector, you can get out the bare SATA drive and stick it in a PC.
    I cut the traces to the SPI flash while I was inside so they now appear as generic "ASMT 2118" drives. Good news is even with the default Seagate firmware, The drives format and filesystems are native, none of the bizzare multi-formatted encrypted partitions stuff in the middle that Seagate used to do. If you took a drive out, the data wasn't as you would expect it with the old ones.

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