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Up to 85% off Qantas Domestic Business Class - $158.38 One Way Sydney to Melbourne or Brisbane. Melbourne to Perth $332.71

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Up to 85% off Qantas Domestic Business Class - $158.38 One Way Sydney to Melbourne or Brisbane. Melbourne to Perth $332.71
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AssociatedPdaveozsydney on 20/07/2017 - 13:47 creditflyer.com.au (3823 clicks)
Last edited 13/08/2017 - 17:19 by 2 other users

—- DEAL UPDATE 13th August 2017 —-
The previous deal from July sold out early so get in quickly.

Expires 30th September for the Avios via Groupon and 31st August for the bonus avios via IberiaPluStore so you need to get in quickly before 31st August 2017.

Great opportunity for those that missed out last time or wished they’d bought more.

—- END OF UPDATE 13th August —-

OK This is a killer deal in terms of savings of 85% off the price of domestic Business Class Fares.

Example - book a $2148 return fare for $316.76 or one way in business class for $158.33

Melbourne to Perth - $332.71 in Business Class one way.

But (and a very big BUT) it requires some effort. It's not for the faint hearted or the lazy but it gets you sitting up front for way less including lounge access, priority boarding etc.

All the details are in the linked page, step by step with screenshots but there are a number of hoops to go through.

It basically involves doing the following:
* 1. Sign up with OneWorld and Qantas Partners Iberia.com and BA.com (you'll need to borrow a UK address for Iberia.com)
* 2. Go to Groupon.es (Spanish site) via the shopping portal at Iberia.com. They give you extra points (avios) for buying through them as the affiliate. 13 per 1 EUR spent
* 3. Buy their Avios Deal for 8000 Avios for EUR99 and accept them into your Iberia.com Avios Account.
* 4. Send your avios to British Airways (fully exchangeable currency)
* 5. Book Qantas flights using Avios.

If you don't have BA.com and Iberia.com frequent flyer accounts then both accounts need to be open for 90 days before transferring avios and booking your flights

Summary of the Process with all the steps is on the webpage linked

Some of the steps are in Spanish - google translate translate.google.com is your friend here.

Please read that first before asking any questions as they all should be answered there.

80% of people will probably find this too hard but the hard core ozbargainers who get through it will reap the rewards.
The Avios are also good for short intra Asia Flights where it's arguably more worthwhile travelling business class.

I make nothing from this deal, but please sign up to the mailing list on the site if you find this useful and want to hear about more hacks like this in the future.

If I've missed anything, please let me know. I redeemed myself the other day without any issues.

Also the packs sell out so don't delay if you want to buy them. If the 8000 avios pack has sold out then try others.

Validity:
Until 30/09/2017 to redeem the coupon for your Avios. Once exchanged, no modifications or cancellations will be accepted.

Purchase limit HAS CHANGED this time : Limit 1 coupon per Iberia card for ALL options so if you need more then buy one of the bigger avios options:

4.000 Avios Iberia Plus 59 €

8.000 Avios Iberia Plus 99 €

15.000 Avios Iberia Plus 189 €

20.000 Avios Iberia Plus 249 €

34.000 Avios Iberia Plus 429 €

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  • chobani4lyf on 20/07/2017 - 13:56

    Can the avious be used for other flights and can they be used in conjunction with cash like point + pay?

    • nightelves on 20/07/2017 - 14:03

      Yes I use them for dom flight from Osaka to Toyko. Paid about $10 return.

    • Associateddaveozsydney @ creditflyer.com.au on 20/07/2017 - 14:07
      +1

      Yes good question. You can use the Avios to upgrade a flight booked with money if booked directly with BA and if there's availability (can be done at the time of booking through BA site).

      They can be used on other, longer flights too but the value in Avios is short distance flights.

      So Melbourne to Perth is charged at 20,000 points for example plus GBP11.70 so total of $332.70 each way in business class. Still great value as the Melbourne to Perth leg is $2151 each way. Still saving 84.5%

  • pantsparty on 20/07/2017 - 13:57

    This is why I take advantage of credit card sign ups with good bonus points - ends up being a much easier process to get points then some of the alternatives. Saying that, this looks to be a good deal!

    • nightelves on 20/07/2017 - 14:06

      Exactly wait for the hotel transfer bonus. Last time I got 162k worth of Avios points.

    • Associateddaveozsydney @ creditflyer.com.au on 20/07/2017 - 14:08

      Yeah a great way of getting points. Some good 100K deals on currently through card signups. Great to have a combination of points in different point currencies I find.

      This one can be great for last minute trips too where the economy flights are ultra expensive.

  • vchan on 20/07/2017 - 14:08
    +22

    Kudos to that level of complexity.

    • Associateddaveozsydney @ creditflyer.com.au on 20/07/2017 - 14:09
      +5

      Ha ha. If it were easy, everyone would be doing it vchan!

      • vchan on 20/07/2017 - 14:10
        +11

        This won't stop a true ozbargainer.

        • nightelves on 20/07/2017 - 15:02
          -6

          Ozbargainers look for less complex ways such as cc signup bonus and referrals.

  • HardQuiz on 20/07/2017 - 14:09
    +3

    But, that means a 90 days wait.

    Hmmmm, a lot could change in 90 days.

    • Associateddaveozsydney @ creditflyer.com.au on 20/07/2017 - 14:28

      You can just setup the accounts and then they are ready for the next deal. There have been similar deals in the past via Groupon Spain.

  • carwashhair on 20/07/2017 - 14:10

    Can they be bought in multiples of 8k points?

    • Associateddaveozsydney @ creditflyer.com.au on 20/07/2017 - 14:34
      +4

      They have thew following available:

      2,000 Avios for 19 € - SOLD OUT
      4,000 Avios for 59 € +767 via shopping portal
      8,000 Avios for 99 € +1287 via shopping portal
      15,000 Avios for 189 € +2457 ''
      20,000 Avios for 249 € +3237 ''
      34,000 Avios for 429 € +5577 ''

  • toasty on 20/07/2017 - 14:10
    +1

    Great find. Thanks for sharing OP!

  • QW3RTY on 20/07/2017 - 14:16
    +26

    OzBargainers are playing 4D chess while card issuers are playing checkers. Love your work, OP!

  • salekhard on 20/07/2017 - 14:16

    I purchased this last time it came up. I paid and then a week later my purchase was cancelled and refunded. YMMV.

    Good luck getting support if anything goes wrong.

    • Associateddaveozsydney @ creditflyer.com.au on 20/07/2017 - 14:32

      best to buy with paypal as some foreign cards (ie Aussie cards) can cause issues.

  • jabroni on 20/07/2017 - 14:18
    +2

    not planning on travelling but tempted to create BA and Iberia accounts just to make sure i can do this in the future

  • ykwon10 on 20/07/2017 - 14:21

    is there an expiry on Avios points?

    • nightelves on 20/07/2017 - 15:03

      The points expiry 36 months of inactivity.

  • illumination on 20/07/2017 - 14:21
    +1

    This looks like it has the potential to be a good deal, but I find it hard to relate to "85% off Business Class"? Would anyone on Ozbargain really pay $2148 for a Business Class return airfare SYD-MEL?

    At $316.76 return SYD-MEL Business Class is probably a good deal if you fly during peak periods (think Friday night, Sunday night) - otherwise I'd personally prefer to pay $200 return (or less) at non-peak periods and save the $116.76. Not to mention this is subject to redemption availability and does not earn you status credits (as it's a redemption).

    I feel like there might be better ways to use those points than something like a SYD-MEL Business Class.

    • Associateddaveozsydney @ creditflyer.com.au on 20/07/2017 - 14:41
      +3

      Can also be used for other routes such as Melbourne to Perth for 20,000 avios plus gbp 11.70 tax. Total $332.70 for flat bed each way.

      Your example return prices would be for Jetstar early morning or Tiger on special.

      Sydney Brisbane for some random dates in a few weeks time are $169 each way at decent times or $129 for people prepared to get up ultra early. So $338 vs $306 return plus flexibility and less onerous change conditions and food and lounge.

      Any decent ozbargainer could smash enough drinks in the lounge to make up the $32 difference. $16 each way.

      True about status - but if you can fly this cheaply, who needs status? You get the lounge access anyway.

      • illumination on 20/07/2017 - 15:31
        +1

        Can also be used for other routes such as Melbourne to Perth for 20,000 avios plus gbp 11.70 tax. Total $332.70 for flat bed each way.

        See, that's pretty good. I think this is better value than SYD-MEL.

        Your example return prices would be for Jetstar early morning or Tiger on special.

        Accepted - I forget SYD-MEL (as an example) cash fares have increased in price over the last few years

        Any decent ozbargainer could smash enough drinks in the lounge to make up the $32 difference. $16 each way.

        At $16 difference each way I'd agree it's worth it.

        Any decent ozbargainer could smash enough drinks in the lounge to make up the $32 difference. $16 each way.

        It's not about needing status. It's about it being valuable to people who actually have a desire to build up status credits to retain (or attain) a certain level of membership. I personally don't care about status credits but you can't pretend there's no value in status credits.

        Having said all of the above, it is still subject to availability.. but I do know that for Qantas on markets like SYD-MEL, there seems to be better Business availability than Economy at times.

        • Associateddaveozsydney @ creditflyer.com.au on 20/07/2017 - 18:28
          +1

          Wise words. It is hard to place a value on Status credits and very subjective. I have heard a figure of $4-5 mentioned per SC when people are doing status runs, but that's a different subject entirely.

          I personally prefer to hack business and class fares as will be posted on my site and so I place very little value. Even at the $4-5 figure the above fares are terrific value.

    • Cheapskate Paul on 21/07/2017 - 00:15

      Yes, you are right, ADL-CBR is a better deal as it's 9000 Avios + ~$20 as opposed to 24,000 QFF points + ~$40. SYD-MEL is only 16,000 QFF points but still 9000 Avios.

  • nightelves on 20/07/2017 - 14:21

    Mel-Syd return you need 18k Avios points which works out to be ~300EUR and $34 in taxes. The total cost would be a close to $450 return rather than the $316.76 that you quoted.

    • carwashhair on 20/07/2017 - 14:28
      +1

      Don't forget

      Go to Groupon.es (Spanish site) via the shopping portal at Iberia.com. They give you extra points (avios) for buying through them as the affiliate. 13 per 1 EUR spent

      Delivers you at total 9287 points for EUR99. Multiply by two to ge your 18k points, then add taxes… ~$316

      • nightelves on 20/07/2017 - 14:35

        Right thanks for pointing that out, must have missed that.

      • callum9999 on 20/07/2017 - 21:07
        +1

        It says up to 13, with 13 only applying to local deals. It also specifically excludes this promotion so there's a chance you'll get nothing at all.

        • odysseus on 21/07/2017 - 17:04
          +1

          It's a very good point that this purchase is explicitly excluded.

          It's a brave ozbargainer who buys a deal when the terms say it's not included, without any evidence in the current promotion to the contrary.

        • callum9999 on 22/07/2017 - 05:59

          @odysseus: I wanted the deal regardless of the extra cashback so did it anyway and it seems to work.

          I have something like 1200 pending after buying the 8000 package - though of course that can be cancelled at any time before its confirmed.

    • Associateddaveozsydney @ creditflyer.com.au on 20/07/2017 - 14:46

      I think you omitted to include the free shopping portal avios.

      Mel-Syd each way is 9000 avios plus $17.38 in taxes each way.
      The cost of the 99 euro point package was $145.50 yesterday bought on my forex free card.
      This gave me 8000 points plus 1287 via the shopping portal. Total 9287.

      Cost per point 1.5667 x 9000 = $141 plus 17.38 in taxes. $158.38 each way.
      Return total $316.76

      You also have 574 avios left for next time.

      If you never use them then the cost is $325.76

      • SydChamp on 20/07/2017 - 15:55
        +1

        How long does it take the Groupon to credit my IBERIA AVIOS account? Thanks

  • ronnknee on 20/07/2017 - 14:24
    +2

    Is business class for a domestic fare really $2000+?

    • nightelves on 20/07/2017 - 14:37

      Yeap one-way last minute is already $1320.

      • ronnknee on 20/07/2017 - 14:38

        Do OzBargainers really pay for it?

        I mean, this method already requires 90+ days preparation. It's not really a valid comparison until after the initial 90 days.

        • nightelves on 20/07/2017 - 14:44

          Well if you're comparing a normal last minute domestic flight from Melbourne to Sydney being about $300. It would be worth the extra effort given you'll be flying business AND get access to airport lounge.

        • nightelves on 20/07/2017 - 14:46
          +2

          To bypass the 90+ days preparation credit any of your Qantas domestic flights to British airways and you will avoid the 90 day wait.

        • Associateddaveozsydney @ creditflyer.com.au on 20/07/2017 - 14:47

          If you already have the iberia.com and ba.com accounts then it doesn't require the 90 days.
          If you have no travel plans, just open the accounts and wait for the next offer.

        • RR88 on 20/07/2017 - 16:08

          @nightelves: i'm sorry i dont quite follow

        • Associateddaveozsydney @ creditflyer.com.au on 20/07/2017 - 18:31

          @RR88:

          he's referring to the fact you need to wait 90 days to transfer avios out of iberia.com to ba.com if you have a new account. For existing accounts there is no wait.
          As I said earlier - it requires some effort. Not one of our easier hacks!

  • bozbargain on 20/07/2017 - 14:26

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    • Associateddaveozsydney @ creditflyer.com.au on 20/07/2017 - 14:52
      +1

      Sorry, seems like it's been ozbargained. It's back again now when I just tried.

      • bozbargain on 20/07/2017 - 15:48
        +1

        No worries, I followed you on Facebook instead. I'm your 2nd follower. Hopefully you'll put all your tips/updates on their for the 2 of us as well (if I were you, I'd focus on Facebook posts instead of newsletters).

        • Associateddaveozsydney @ creditflyer.com.au on 20/07/2017 - 18:31

          Thanks :) +1

          We will be doing both

  • DesiBoy on 20/07/2017 - 14:31
    +1

    Trying to register on BA.com seems like Australia is not part of this world. Australia is missing from the list of countries.

    • Associateddaveozsydney @ creditflyer.com.au on 20/07/2017 - 14:48
      +1

      In the article it says you need to borrow a UK address.

      • TheZohan on 20/07/2017 - 15:05

        Does it need to be a "real" UK address, as in do they send you out a FF card or something?

        And can you change the address to Australia once registered perhaps? ta.

        • Associateddaveozsydney @ creditflyer.com.au on 20/07/2017 - 18:32
          +1

          They send one piece of mail out. That's all AFAIK.

      • DesiBoy on 20/07/2017 - 15:16
        +1

        You mentioned it for Iberia.com NOT for BA.com

        (you'll need to borrow a UK address for Iberia.com)

        • RR88 on 20/07/2017 - 16:09

          i am looking at the site now and australia is an option for the iberia account?

        • Associateddaveozsydney @ creditflyer.com.au on 20/07/2017 - 18:32

          @RR88:

          yes it's fine for iberia.com

    • Bargainbag on 20/07/2017 - 19:53

      I just registered on BA.com and I used Australia as a country, and when I go to enter in my address details I can list Australia as country of origin. Will this still work? It's called the "Executive Club" on the BA website.

      • Bargainbag on 20/07/2017 - 20:00

        Ah, noticed Australia is not on the list.. signed up as UK resident instead! Thanks!

  • jabroni on 20/07/2017 - 14:32

    how do you sign up the iberia Type of document * part?

    all of it needs a document number so if its not real then wont it get rejected eventually?

    plus the residence part accepts an australian address so does it have to be british? otherwise how will you get your Iberia Plus Card?

  • G Wok on 20/07/2017 - 14:36

    will this give a good discount for economy flights as well?

    • Associateddaveozsydney @ creditflyer.com.au on 20/07/2017 - 14:49

      $87.88 - so not a huge discount unless compared against last minute flex fares

    • jayel on 20/07/2017 - 16:02

      As OP said, this is not so much a discount but very handy for short notice flights as there is always heaps of award availability in qantas domestic economy on BA. I don't value this short haul business class experience even for this much but I do find having flat rate flight credits for impulsive mel-syd trips useful.

      • Associateddaveozsydney @ creditflyer.com.au on 20/07/2017 - 18:33

        exactly. Well put! Last minute or late notice are great. I've used this when I missed a flight once in Melbourne. Booked at the airport.

  • noyesmaybeok on 20/07/2017 - 14:37

    Seems good for short flights only. Even Brisbane->Melbourne is 15,000 points which is around $600 return; pretty good, however at that price for the risk and given no immediate bookings I'd make, not worth it.

    Anything overseas is a fair bit - looking at nearly $2,500 one way per person to London.

    • Associateddaveozsydney @ creditflyer.com.au on 20/07/2017 - 14:49

      maybe signup for iberia.com and ba.com accounts then you're ready for next time if there's another offer.

    • braddsey on 20/07/2017 - 16:17

      If that's business class then that's a very good price for business. Cheapest business return to Europe at the moment is about $10K (obviously depending on when you want to travel).

      • noyesmaybeok on 20/07/2017 - 16:28

        Economy 1k business 5k (on special)

        Business is good but 8k better for a couple? Not IMO

        • braddsey on 20/07/2017 - 21:10

          Yeah my mistake… I was recently trying to price biz for 2 people - so $10K was for 2 tickets.

      • Associateddaveozsydney @ creditflyer.com.au on 20/07/2017 - 18:35

        There are better ways to get long haul business and first flights for less

        • ZJack on 20/07/2017 - 23:15

          Hey man you seem pretty clued in with this stuff. Two adults flying one-way Melbourne to Heathrow, what's this better way you're talking about?

        • nightelves on 21/07/2017 - 08:33

          @ZJack:

          Sign up for a credit card if you haven't already done so and use those points for flight redemption. An Amex Explorer couple with a Platinum Edge card and one life insurance from Amex can easily get you one-way with Singapore in Biz class.

  • RR88 on 20/07/2017 - 14:42
    -3

    will you earn qantas status credits from this sort of work around? i need status!!!

    • carwashhair on 20/07/2017 - 14:44

      Dear boy, No!

    • [Deactivated] on 20/07/2017 - 14:47

      No it seems more like an award redemption from BA.

    • Associateddaveozsydney @ creditflyer.com.au on 20/07/2017 - 14:50
      +2

      No, this is mentioned in the article.

      But flying business you don't need status. ;)

      And if flying economy there are credit cards you can get to use various lounges..

      • illumination on 20/07/2017 - 15:33
        +2

        You could also say, flying 1.5 hours, you don't need Business!

        Similarly, because there are Credit Cards that give you lounge access if you fly Economy, that would reduce the value of this deal.

        Even then, I'd rather sell off those Qantas club passes (if that's what you're referring to?) at $40+/per than use them myself.

        • tunzafun001 on 20/07/2017 - 16:36

          What lounge can you access with a credit card in Melbourne? on a Qantas or Jetstar flight?

        • illumination on 20/07/2017 - 16:38

          @tunzafun001: No Credit Card gets you into a lounge directly that I know of. I believe OP was actually referring to Qantas Club Passes, but as I was saying I'd personally prefer to sell them for $40+ each because I don't think they're worth that much (but others do)

        • JohnHowardsEyebrows on 20/07/2017 - 16:45

          @illumination: Qantas Club really not worth the money you can sell the passes for. Qantas International Business Lounge, very much worth it.

        • Associateddaveozsydney @ creditflyer.com.au on 20/07/2017 - 18:36

          Apparently people are getting $50 on gumtree for them so yes more cash to pay for points and do it a different way

  • tonywind on 20/07/2017 - 15:13

    Thank you for the post. I dont mind putting the work in to get a bargain as i have 4 kids:) Very impressed with the post as it it explains the steps well. The only thing is i hope there is another bargain like this one after 90 days. Thank you for the well explained post!!!

    • Associateddaveozsydney @ creditflyer.com.au on 20/07/2017 - 18:37
      +2

      No Worries. They do them a few times each year. Obviousy no guarantees but if accounts are ready then you're ready. I'm less risk averse so have the points ready to go just in case.

    • nightelves on 21/07/2017 - 08:46
      +3

      Best thing to do is you and your partner should sign up for the Amex Explorer atm. That alone will allow you to get a 7-night Marriott travel package which includes a 7-night stay at a category 1-5 Marriott hotel and 120k British Airways Avios points. If you time the transfer when they run bonus hotel transfer you easily net 162k Avios points. Even at 9k return between between Mel-Sydney in Economy you're getting 18 round trips.

      • Geoff-bargain on 25/07/2017 - 14:11

        Can you convert the 100k amex points to 120k avios? is that how you get that?
        Also whats the 7 night Marriott package? I dont see this on the explorer page?
        Thanks

        • nightelves on 25/07/2017 - 15:37

          You need a total of 180k Amex points to convert to the Marriott package.
          The Amex Explorer gives you 100k plus Amex life insurance before 31st July gives you another 20k points and on top sign up for the Amex DJ cc for additional 40k points. All up you're 90% of the way there. I happened to have the points ready when British Airways had the 35% bonus hotel points transfer hence 162k point with British Airways. There's a few steps in between to redeem the Marriott Travel package but it's well worth it.

        • JohnHowardsEyebrows on 25/07/2017 - 15:41

          @nightelves: How do I get this life insurance product on my Plat Edge/Reserve card?

  • sw0rdy on 20/07/2017 - 15:13
    +1

    Amazing, thanks Dave! :):)

  • Zaenille on 20/07/2017 - 15:14

    Only domestic flights?

  • Ohcheapcheap on 20/07/2017 - 15:16

    Das it mane

    Das it

  • Jayjay93 on 20/07/2017 - 15:23

    Challenge accepted !

    Where are you supposed to put an UK address ?

    Just tried and was able to see Australia inside the select for the country ?

  • dufflover on 20/07/2017 - 15:26

    Thumbs up to post and the effort required.
    Reading it makes me thankful I have status to not have to resort to it!

    The Perth trip makes a really good deal though. Since the refits A330 business class seats are the new norm to expect; 737 business class seats are lame by comparison.

    • Associateddaveozsydney @ creditflyer.com.au on 20/07/2017 - 15:33

      Some of the A330's Mel to Sydney are worth it too.

      But status means you're still at the back but get to use the lounges…
      Have you tried the Priority Pass 'lounges' in Sydney yet? Better food than the lounges.
      I'll be doing a post on it soon. Tried them out at the weekend.

      • dufflover on 20/07/2017 - 15:35

        nah haven't tried other lounges except OneWorld ones. I wouldn't be surprised if other ones are (relatively) getting better though. They've really cut a lot over the last couple of years from the Domestic business lounges.

        • Associateddaveozsydney @ creditflyer.com.au on 21/07/2017 - 07:54

          Domestic Business Lounges are still good. Obviously can't beat the QF First lounge for international which is where Platinum status does come in handy if travelling on an economy flight

  • Skramit on 20/07/2017 - 15:26
    +4

    Upvoted for effort. This is proper Ozbargaining.

    Reminds me of that $1 McFlurry hack from a while ago.

    • Associateddaveozsydney @ creditflyer.com.au on 20/07/2017 - 15:34
      +4

      Thanks. If only it could be combined with cashrewards and a Woolies egift card!

  • JeCCo on 20/07/2017 - 15:51

    Do you need the BA account? What happens if you just use the IB account to redeem the avios you purchased.

    In other words, just want to understand why creating the BA account and transferring the points is critical to the process. Better redemption rates?

    • Associateddaveozsydney @ creditflyer.com.au on 20/07/2017 - 16:00

      Iberia redemption rates are different - more expensive for the routes detailed.

      Hence the convoluted route required!

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