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Up to 85% off Qantas Domestic Business Class - $158.38 One Way Sydney to Melbourne or Brisbane. Melbourne to Perth $332.71

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—- DEAL UPDATE 13th August 2017 —-
The previous deal from July sold out early so get in quickly.

Expires 30th September for the Avios via Groupon and 31st August for the bonus avios via IberiaPluStore so you need to get in quickly before 31st August 2017.

Great opportunity for those that missed out last time or wished they’d bought more.

—- END OF UPDATE 13th August —-

OK This is a killer deal in terms of savings of 85% off the price of domestic Business Class Fares.

Example - book a $2148 return fare for $316.76 or one way in business class for $158.33

Melbourne to Perth - $332.71 in Business Class one way.

But (and a very big BUT) it requires some effort. It's not for the faint hearted or the lazy but it gets you sitting up front for way less including lounge access, priority boarding etc.

All the details are in the linked page, step by step with screenshots but there are a number of hoops to go through.

It basically involves doing the following:
* 1. Sign up with OneWorld and Qantas Partners Iberia.com and BA.com (you'll need to borrow a UK address for Iberia.com)
* 2. Go to Groupon.es (Spanish site) via the shopping portal at Iberia.com. They give you extra points (avios) for buying through them as the affiliate. 13 per 1 EUR spent
* 3. Buy their Avios Deal for 8000 Avios for EUR99 and accept them into your Iberia.com Avios Account.
* 4. Send your avios to British Airways (fully exchangeable currency)
* 5. Book Qantas flights using Avios.

If you don't have BA.com and Iberia.com frequent flyer accounts then both accounts need to be open for 90 days before transferring avios and booking your flights

Summary of the Process with all the steps is on the webpage linked

Some of the steps are in Spanish - google translate translate.google.com is your friend here.

Please read that first before asking any questions as they all should be answered there.

80% of people will probably find this too hard but the hard core ozbargainers who get through it will reap the rewards.
The Avios are also good for short intra Asia Flights where it's arguably more worthwhile travelling business class.

I make nothing from this deal, but please sign up to the mailing list on the site if you find this useful and want to hear about more hacks like this in the future.

If I've missed anything, please let me know. I redeemed myself the other day without any issues.

Also the packs sell out so don't delay if you want to buy them. If the 8000 avios pack has sold out then try others.

Validity:
Until 30/09/2017 to redeem the coupon for your Avios. Once exchanged, no modifications or cancellations will be accepted.

Purchase limit HAS CHANGED this time : Limit 1 coupon per Iberia card for ALL options so if you need more then buy one of the bigger avios options:

4.000 Avios Iberia Plus 59 €

8.000 Avios Iberia Plus 99 €

15.000 Avios Iberia Plus 189 €

20.000 Avios Iberia Plus 249 €

34.000 Avios Iberia Plus 429 €

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      • This table is a helpful comparison for international OW flights not on BA/IB

        http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/24254316-post725.html

        Sometimes IB can be better but mostly it seems BA is best.

        • I updated the posted link to include a table of other domestic route pricing.

  • Few years ago I flew from India to Canada on BA, still got 18k avios points from that trip. Can I do anything with that???

    • 4500 points mel to syd economy so return for 2
      or return for 1 in business class.

      • +1

        Bloody Gold. Love it. Thanks Bro. I never thought those points can be ever used.

        • I'm glad it made your day, its essentially the same amount of points the OP is suggesting to buy.

        • you better hope they didn't expire…

        • Yeah they expire in 3 years.

        • @jayel: No they Did not, Mine are 5 year and 2 months old.

        • @letmesingh:

          Cool they wont expire as long as your last account activity is within 3 years.

          see here:
          https://www.britishairways.com/en-gb/executive-club/collecti…

          regardless if you have them, you should definitely spend them soon.

    • you have the points already - get out and use them for your return business class trip my friend!

  • why is this only good for domestic flights? what about flights from australia to china?

    • +1

      Its because this price is based on british airways point redemtion chart which is based on distance brackets rather than price.

      This is a sweet spot for these points. not as good a deal for other destinations. but there are other sweetspots in other frequent flyer programs from australia.

    • Ba.com awards are competitively priced for short haul routes.
      Sydney to Hong Kong would be 75,000 avios plus GBP 72.50 in taxes so a total of $1295 one way in Business Class.
      Hardly a bargain given there are other techniques to buy miles with other award programmes to get cheap fares to Asia and economy return from Melbourne currently $399 return with the latest Flybuys deal.

      • techniques to buy miles with other award programmes to get cheap fares to Asia

        You have my interest.
        I did a little googling for nil result.
        Any tips as to where I may be able to secure said information?
        TA

        • I will be adding to the creditflyer.com.au site with further articles and details.
          For now google buying Lifemiles and United points and check out their award charts to asia.

        • @daveozsydney:

          Life Miles is not what it used to be and United will be devaluing their rewards redemption in November. So not really worth it at this stage. I would say Alaska Airlines is the way to go

        • @nightelves:

          It really depends on how you value it personally, obviously not what it use to be but compared to revenue tickets, it can still be good value sometimes.

        • @nightelves:

          It depends on the route you are looking for. Alaskan, Lifemiles and United all have their merits as do AAdvantage. Even SPG and sending to programmes or via Marriott rewards.

          They all have their intricacies

      • yes same here.. pls advise what cheap BUSINESS class fares can be attained from Melbourne to Asia? I've been travelling this route for 12 years in business but have never found any 'deal' under $2K.

        • +2

          @xdreamyst:

          Yeah I'll be writing a series on how to travel hack aimed both at those new to the game and those who've dabbled a bit or a lot before and have experience buying miles like AA as you mention.

          Some of it will be more complex like this hack, and some will be easier.

          I know Keith well and he's written a lot about how best to earn points and buy points.
          I contributed to some of these hacks like buying Elevate miles for domestic Virgin Australia flights which unfortunately will end soon once their merger goes ahead.
          There will also be a balance between posts available publicly and those that will be to a select group only as sometimes publicising a hack means the loopholes are closed. Othertimes, time is of the essence such as with mistake fares and mistakenly priced awards (yes these do happen too!).

          My focus will be also on the hotel side of things. Once you've cut flight costs down massively, your next biggest cost for most people unless couch surfing or staying with friends is then accommodation so that has been my focus for the past 12 months in which I've managed to stay at some incredible hotels including one in the Maldives voted the best in the world using points earned or buying points to save money.

          With AUD rising in value in the past couple of days it means that fares will appear cheaper - look at the $399 return fares to Hong Kong listed on OZB that expires today. It will also mean miles become cheaper but yes not as good as the parity days!

        • What Airlines have you been travelling with?

  • +1

    when we sign up we are required to enter our passport details. fair enough.

    but if we are putting a fake UK address instead of an aussie address surely this would be grounds for them to ban your account?

    • I didn't advocate putting a fake address. :) Try putting a real address of a friend or family member. They only send out one piece of mail to that address.

    • +2

      A Hotel?

  • Would Syd-Hobart still be the same amount of Avios Points as Syd-Bris or Syd-Melb? Planning to go sometime next year.

    • +1

      It 'should' as it's technically 645 miles and the 9000 points zone is for upto 650 miles.
      I'll call up and check and report back as they are not visible online.

    • That's one of the really sweet spots using Avios. Anything between 601 and 650 miles is the best because Qantas charges 24,000 points for a business class award for anything between 600 and 1200 miles (and 16,000 points for less than 600 miles), while BA is 9000 Avios up to 650 miles. So Qantas is 24,000 points for SYD-HBA while BA is 9000 Avios. BA also charge about half the taxes.

      At 601 miles, ADL-CBR slots into the same sweet spot.

  • Error

    British Airways does not have traffic rights to operate directly between these two cities.
    
    • which cities?

      • he seems to think that you can only use Avios on BA flights.

        • +1

          As you are no doubt aware they can be booked on any OneWorld flight, Qantas included. Not all flights show up online - Sydney to Hobart and Sydney to Maroochydore as examples so you would have to call up to book those

    • You need to be logged into executive club and search through the award redemption section.

  • Quick question OP.

    I was under the impression the BA Executive Club also requires a UK address? you mentioned only Iberia. Have you managed to create an Executive club account with an australian address?

    • You don't need a UK address to access the Avios functionality in Executive Club, merely a non-Australian one.

  • Yes it should read for Ba.com not Iberia - Good spot. Thanks I will update.

    • updated.

  • how long does it take from redeeming the groupon voucher till the pts showing up in your IBERIA account?
    I've just done 2 but I am worried I may have entered something wrongly..

    • It says 15 days but usually it's a few days quicker than that.

      Last time I did this in February my shopping avios arrived ten days after the Groupon avios.

  • On the ba.com website you cant book internal Australian flights says error with getting price,
    how can you book a qantas flight with avois points? cant see it on qantas.com and Ba.com you cant book anything inside Australia?

    • +1

      you need to be logged in to Executive Club and select the book with Avios option.

  • What are people putting for document number? My passport number keeps getting rejected.

  • +1

    I got an email, regarding my purchase.. not promosing.. 40 Days :(

    Groupon ES has informed us of your transaction with them on 20/07/17, and the Avios you have earned are pending.

    Retailer:
    

    Groupon ES Avios:

    Bear in mind the approval can take up to 40 days from the day the purchase was made.

    • They arrived ten days after the Groupon Avios posted to my Iberia account last time I did this.

      • Did you receive the same email as above too?

  • Can someone confirm that the 90 day waiting time? Is it on transferring from Groupon to Iberia or just Iberia to BA? Happy to purchase now and wait the 90 days to transfer to BA and book flights if thats the case.

    • +1

      It's the waiting limit before you can send out avios from your Iberia account.
      So the avios will post from Groupon to Iberia then you can't transfer out from Iberia for 90 days of the date of opening if it's a new Iberia account.

      • Thanks mate - now the nervous wait to see the points in Iberia and then get them into BA! I know the groupon said 15 days but how long has this actually taken for others?

        • I will check and see how long it took last time I did it and report back

  • -5

    So to get traffic to your newly minted website, you went through the effort of getting one of the oldest tricks publicised on OB, perhaps will benefit a handful of people at most and perhaps a way for Avios and EC to revise/crack on it until it will either be no longer available or much more expensive.

    BA EC do NOT allow new members from Australia. And for everyone's info, they do run promotions from time to time that make this deal less of a deal and more of a 'move along, nothing to see here'.

    A+ for the writing effort. F for trying to get traffic to your website.

    • Technically he gave enough instructions on ozbargain for us to get the deal without even entering the website. I found the ozbargain post very comprehensive - not sure about everyone else :)

    • +1

      I agree these deals have been around for ages and are already publicly available with guides on plenty of blogs including pointhacks for those who are interested in points programs. The OP is marketing their new blog that is offering deals that are already extensively documented on hundreds of other blogs which could have been reference as the original source of the deal. They say 'I am making nothing from this deal', but considering this is something that they did not discover, it seems more that they are using the ozbargain platform to drive traffic to their site to presumably make money from ad traffic. Still this definitely a good deal, and worth the effort if you value short haul business class.

      In my view these methods generally require a lot of effort to research and also require a lot of flexibility on when and where you fly. So its a bit like the saying 'a little knowledge is a dangerous thing' where its perhaps good to do your research to understand the risks (accidentally missing the iberia store bonus or the cookies not working leaving someone 1000 points short, suddenly all award availability could disappear, the price of the redemption could go up at short notice, an audit of accounts set up from australian IPs due to sudden spike in account creation, or knowing when not to call the airline when you are taking advantage of a website glitch (lifemiles) etc. could all leave those without a real understanding of how it works high and dry.) as well as understand your way around points programs generally so you know what your doing.

    • +1

      Well obviously he's promoting his website, but if the mods have a problem with it then let them deal with it.

      It's a win-win situation. If you think his info is good, useful and valuable to you, then you'll be a reader, you'll subscribe and you'll closely follow his website. You'll get good info out of it. Him - he'll get traffic.

      If you don't like it, just don't visit? I don't see why him trying to get traffic for his website should be frowned upon.

      Do you get angry at restaurants for making money out of you? Restaurants are a business just like any other business in the game to make money, but you'd just see it as you getting a meal and paying for it accordingly.

  • Holy hell, I had no idea bus class b/w MEL and SYD cost that much! I have a bus class award from MEL-SYD that was booked as part of a larger trip that I was gonna throw away. Rethinking that now!

    • Both Qantas and Virgin Australia award flights can be cancelled with a points penalty (with Virgin a cash penalty option is also available). With Qantas, you'd come out 10,000pts ahead. Cancel maybe - throw away definitely not.

      • It was booked to comply with rules of a multi carrier award on Cathay Pacific. Won't get any refund of points.

        • no big deal then if you don't use it I guess. Try a longer stopover if possible then use it at some point in the future maybe?

    • +1

      You may well know this, but you can only throw away the last leg of your trip, as as when you no-show for one flight, all other flights on the itinerary get automatically cancelled.

      • Yup it's the last leg.

  • +4

    Whilst the bargain here is too much work for me, I use Avios regularly to book intra-Asia Cathay Pacific and Japan Airlines flights, especially on Business Class. That is really the best use given the cost of those flights.

    This year I used 20000 Avios for each Business Class ticket from Tokyo to Hong Kong for family of 4, departing just after Christmas. That was probably best value booking as Flights between Japan and Hong Kong is always expensive, especially to Tokyo. Equivalent Qantas Frequent Flyer would be 38000 QFF points for each Business Class ticket.

    I got a whole bunch of Avios points (120K of them) via transferring from American Express Membership Rewards points to SPG points and then to Marriott points, before getting the Marriott Travel Package which is excellent value for getting Avios (or AAdvantage or United, or Alaska miles).

    • Yeah that's a fantastic use. I have done two Marriott Travel Package deals this year so far and will be writing a piece on it no doubt soon. Where are you planning on using the free week's accommodation?
      I sent my points to AA as they had an offer on at the time I did the transfer.

      • +1

        Week's accommodation is best used at this hotel.
        https://www.marriott.com.au/hotels/travel/pqcjw-jw-marriott-…

        • Yeah looks awesome! Have you been there before?
          I was thinking Fiji Nomi Bay.

        • @daveozsydney:

          Nomi is not a category 1-5 and no I haven't. I went to the Marriott Miyako Osaka when it was still a category 7 hotels. You have to add in addition points if the hotel category is higher than a category 5.

        • @nightelves:

          yes requires an upgrade with points, but with a small child it's good to have a child friendly place close to home. Not many decent Cat 1-5 close by from my cursory research.

          Did you have SPG/ Marriott status and if so did you get a room upgrade?

        • +1

          @daveozsydney:

          Yes I do and yes got upgraded to a corner room with lounge access last time we stayed at Marriott. Best to call them up and ask if they can enrol you in a program called Taste of Platinum because then you'll get platinum status while you try and accrue the stay.

        • Yes FT have mentioned about this and whilst it looks good (and based on forum members feedback it is good), it is a bit out of the way to get there.

          The challenge of these travel packages is to find a place where you want to stay 7 nights. There aren't that many places for me that I want to stay that long. So I redeemed my 7 night cert at Tokyo instead.

        • @nightelves:

          That's got me thinking if taste of platinum triggers with the free night packages…. worth a try

      • I have booked The Prince Sakura Tower Tokyo, Autograph Collection for 7 nights:

        https://www.marriott.com.au/hotels/travel/tyoak-the-prince-s…

        It is a category 8 hotel. What i like is that the rooms are big for Tokyo, and good for families with small kids (staying free for 5 year olds and under).

        Given that I am Marriott Gold Elite (status match from SPG Gold), I would get free breakfast at this hotel also.

        I also considered redeeming more Marriott points to Cat 9 + AA miles when AA has the 25% bonus, and used the certificate for JW Marriott Hong Kong, but I have tons of AA points right now so I don't need more AA points right now. So I just used points to book the right number of nights at JW Marriott Hong Kong instead (Cat 9).

        https://www.marriott.com.au/hotels/travel/hkgdt-jw-marriott-…

        • I was tossing up between Marriot Tokyo and The Prince Sakura Tower Tokyo. Can I ask if the location is central to Tokyo?

        • @nightelves:

          Both Marriott Tokyo and The Prince Sakura are near Shinagawa station. However Prince Sakura room is more spacious, and slightly closer to Shinagawa train station than Marriott.

        • @edisonAU:

          Thanks guess I'll be trying to secure rooms for the cherry blossom for next year.

    • I plan to try one of these Marriot travel packages next. Hopefully the exchanged airline points are sufficient to travel long haul.

      • you've missed the boat for the transfer between with AA. At the moment Aeroplan has a 35% bonus hotel transfer atm. So you might wanna check that out.

        • It's ok I'm more than a year from my next trip. As long as I can still funnel my Amex points through SPG to obtain these things.

        • @marquise:

          Where are you going?

        • @nightelves: Ideally I'd like to use a Marriott package for travel/accom to Europe or US. If there's some great value alliance based award (like Cathay's multi carrier award) I could utilise that would be preferred. I'm not familiar with the US carrier award programs.

        • @marquise:

          You might want to look at round the world award redemption with Aisa Miles if that's the case.

        • @nightelves: Yeah I've got one coming up next month (160k points / 35k miles). Anything else similar to this? That I can pair with Marriott?

        • +1

          @marquise:

          http://www.marriott.com/rewards/usepoints/morepack.mi

          I would say British Airways if you want cheap stops in Europe.

  • But if timing is right SYD to MEL costs $10 with Tiger, price matched $9 with Jetstar? No hoops to go through. LOL

    • haha yes - way to go.. But no lounge with free drinks and food, no priority boarding and no food or drinks on the plane… I'd probably prefer TigerAir to Jetstar given the choice. I was flying Sydeny to Brisbane on a regular basis and did that with TigerAir and mostly was $49 each way - I also got the extra legroom seats being tall. That was before I got into travel hacking. Now I'd rather travel Business at economy prices… And save the $$$ on the meal, coffee etc in the terminal beforehand.

      • +1

        And the alcohol, don't forget the alcohol

  • just reading the groupon t&cs and it says only for users in spain.
    I take it people have successfully received the points?

    • I got the email from IberiaPluStore acknowledging the purchase

      Groupon ES has informed us of your transaction with them on 18/07/17, and the Avios you have earned are pending.

      Retailer:Groupon ES Avios: 1288 PurchaseID: XXXXXXX

      Bear in mind the approval can take up to 40 days from the day the purchase was made.

      Kind regards,

      The IberiaPluStore Team

      • +2

        ok, I have pulled the trigger and redeemed the coupons. it says 15 days to credit the points to my Iberia account. sadly that is new, so I will have to wait out the 90days before I can merge points. I had an existing BA account so hopefully that comes in handy somehow.
        I have some points on a meridiana account I think too, so ideally I can consolidate those.

  • Hi guys.

    It looks like the deal is expired cz when i am trying to go the deal, it is not coming up with the avios point any more.

    Also i want to ask if I need to ask some thing how do i post it on the website. I am new to Oz bargain.

    Actually I am collecting qantas points for one world classic flight reward, RTW with 140k,280k and 420k Qantas points on economy, business and first class respectively.

    I am planning to go to UK and Europe and may be any other place if points or miles allow ( 35k miles allowed in 12-month period). It will be excluding US.
    Also which accommodation i should go for with Qantas points ?

    At the moment I have got Qantas points earning credit cards and also got bonus qantas points from current cc offers.

    Just wanted to ask Oz bargainers, if i should get any other cc or frequent flyer membership, or collect any other ff points for this purpose.
    I have got velocity FF but not many points there.

    Let me know if I have asked at the wrong forum or let me know where can I ask it if its not the right 1.

    Any help will be appreciated.

    Cheers.
    Hassan.

    • Yeah Amex Explorer is the way to go. It's offering 100k sign on bonus atm and couple that with 20k bonus for signing upto Amex Life Insurance.

      If you're collecting Qantas points look at Anz frequentfly Black for 75k signup and first year waive and combined that with Westpac Altitude Black which would be enough for RTW in economy with OneWorld alliance.

    • +1

      Deal still active @Hassan9033

      Just search for avios on the groupon.es site.
      Make sure you've followed all the steps as per the document. It isn't easy as I did pre-warn!

      Good luck!

      Booking accommodation with Qantas points isn't generally a good use of points. Better to use for flights.
      American Express Membership Rewards are one of the most flexible point programmes, as are SPG.
      I have about 36 frequent flyer and hotel programme accounts so really the answer is subjective.
      Look for your redemption and look across the award programmes and see which is the cheapest in terms of points and miles and then see how best you can earn those points or miles.

      But it's a big open ended question and probably outside of the scope of this ozbargain Deal!

      • Thank you daveozsydney for your reply and the advice re: the accommodation booking.

        Just with this deal, i got to the right place. Just want ur advice on it as well:
        I have just opened my iberia and BA account after knowing this deal.
        Should I keep them active now and wait for the next deal or buy the avios points anyway and transfer once the account is 90 days old.
        Also when i go the final page for payment, the message that was appearing was still of 8000 avios points. Does it appear like this and only the points come to ur account only then u get the bonus points ?

        Hope to see ur reply soon.

        Cheers.
        Hassan.

        • It all depends on whether you have a specific use or not.
          If you would in say 4 months time then worth buying the points so they are ready to book something.
          If not then I'd say get the accounts ready so you can pull the trigger next time if or when the offer comes around.

          The 8000 avios are for the package purchased.
          On top of that by using groupon via the iberia shopping portal you get the bonus 13 avios per Euro spent…
          Hope that helps!

        • @daveozsydney:

          Thanks.
          Yes its helpful.

      • It doesn't seem to have been mentioned anywhere but I'm guessing you need a Groupon Spain account to do this. Can you confirm, daveozsydney? (My Groupon Australia username and password don't seem to work.)

        • yes totally separate - need to just provide details and sign up on checkout.

  • If you redeem on Business Class from HongKong to Taipei(Taiwan), that's just 9000 Avios + $AU 41.62 on Cathay Pacific Airways. On Economy just 4500 Avios + $AU 32.66. Is that a good deal?

    • Yes sounds like a great deal. Another great example of a cheap business class intra-Asia short haul redemption.

    • Based on the cash fares sounds like a great deal.

      I would personally pick Economy because it's such a short flight - but even if you picked Business it'd probably still be cheaper than a cash fare in Economy.

      • Depends on build I guess. I'm 6'2" so I would always value the extra legroom in Business

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