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hi j4ck it's 15% of the normal price not the purity
Can you smoke or vape this stuff?
That's a lot to pay for 100% unproven benefits. I mean even "unleash your body's potential naturally" would imply that you don't use anything, and let you body do it's thing naturally, you know, like nature intended….
Will it give me accelerated healing factor?
You probably want Gota Kola (centella asiatica), as well as some hemp products, my friend.
I'd suggest you at least read the Examine.com article before talking about what's proven or unproven.
Why? It still says that its unproven, and in-fact banned in Canada.
What's unproven? Examine shows nine effects listed as confirmed by multiple double-blind studies. Yes, there might be some unknown side-effects, but we don't even know all the side effects of friend potatoes (see Acrylamide). That's different from being 'unproven'.
Also, being banned has nothing to do with evidence of what a substance is proven to do or not do (see Cannabis).
@martin_henry: Ahhhh…. I'll let you sit on that lol. You should actually look at the studies if you think you know what you are talking about. By the way, that website is trash.
All you need to know, is that "unleash your body's potential naturally" is a joke, and that's probably all of the science behind this product. If I had the money I would start 10 studies into the effects of biro ink on your skin increasing stamina, and have them published. It doesn't mean a single thing.
It's a supplement, and unless you are deficient you have no need to take it as it won't improve anything.
@OnlinePred: You seem confused. I never said shilajit was good, or desirable. The fact that you call Examine 'trash' and don't know how to use a comma tells me enough. My point was just that you shouldn't spout off about things which you clearly don't know. Peace
@martin_henry: Use actual databases to find studies, then read them to see if they actually apply to the goal being do they make a positive impact that is different or greater than normal nutrients. Then check that there is more than one study that comes to the same conclusion. Verify that they have been peer reviewed by universities rather than individuals without backing. Make sure the sample size suits frameworks etc that have been verified. I can't get that information from that site easily and definitely can't do big searches of similar studies.
I wrote this again from my phone. I don't care if there is proper grammar or not ,l,o,l,,,,,, it's not an essay nor is my comments being assessed in any way. If you can't read comments on the internet with grammar errors you are doing it wrong.
WTF?
Please remember the side effects this thing can have on your kidneys. Kidney failure is a common problem in people who use this stuff.
Hi Onlinepred there actually has been quite a lot of studies done on shilajit and it's benefits a quick google search will confirm this.
"Based on currently available studies, the bioactivity of shilajit lacks substantial evidence. The immuno-modulatory activity does not stand the test of critical assessment and is considered as unproven"
…And that's just the wiki pageI did google it, and every suggested that not only is it banned in certain countries, but in general there is literally no perceived benefit to this and the majority of these stupid products. It blows my mind that there are people gullible enough to spend $40 on this stuff.
Not only do you have no credible sources to list, but all the research can't be used as most aren't related to humans or are incomplete OR don't even have a big enough sample size to be quantifiable.
As with all this phony herb supplement stuff, it just makes very expensive urine.
in response to your claims of kidney failure vodkamilkshake please post a link to a study confirming this before you go making wild claims
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Can you please cite Human studies with a good p-value and large study sizes to prove your claims.
I'm not sure you can say that it does everything you say it can. Just through a quick literature search. I found : Review on shilajit used in traditional Indian medicine.
Found in the Journal of ethnopharmacology, which basically says that there is no substantial evidence for any of your claims. However, it is behind a paywall so I cannot access the full article through my institution but the abstract is here.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21530631
Therefore, in my opinion this is a scam.a quick search on ncbi database brings up a lot of positive studies check it out for yourselves https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/?term=shilajit
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Having a quick look at the titles and selected abstracts:
Most are in vitro or in rodents (Treating alcohol dependence in mice??)
Only one study I have indicates an increase in testosterone in HEALTHY men, and only 35 men were studied. More than half of studied men were lost from study. This is a poor study and not good enough to prove that it increases testosterone.I haven't found any studies that are found in well respected journals.
So if I wanted to treat alcohol dependence in rats I may consider it
Personally I would not call it a scam just yet, because some traditional herbal medicine are known to work.
But I do agree that statistically relevant clinical trials are the only way to prove this. In my opinion, anyone selling medicine of any sort needs to be able to prove that it works. The search results provided imply some positive benefits, but it is not easy to find an (applicable) article which demonstrates it in a clearcut way.Just because some traditional herbal medicines are known to work doesn't mean that they can categorically state that it: Increases testerone, sperm count and motility. Increases muscle mass. along other claims.
Therefore a scam, tricking people out of their money by a deceitful claim.
If it was a deal for the magic himalayan black goo in the magic glass bottle with non of these claims, I wouldn't have even bothered commenting, but they have claimed these benefits and I think it's worth while pointing out.
I agree with you, however then, that would mean you should neg all deals on the majority of vitamins, supplements and a ton of other stuff. Basically it is still considered unproven to make a significant (or any) effect. Here is the final statement in that article, basically the article admits its research is limited due to being unable to isolate it and its properties and requires more in depth research
“Since the antioxidant and immuno-modulatory claims of shilajit are based on shallow and weak evidence, currently, shilajit cannot be labelled as a rasayana, emphasizing the need for more systematic research to explain the mechanism of shilajit’s action as a rejuvenator.”
If I have negged in error, I am happy to unneg, if thats the term. Though did check the terms of negs and thought it fit.
@flabberchops:
Not disagreeing with you and I am not an expert on negsI am very anti some of the crap that gets palmed off to the gullible public and it seems to be getting worse and worse!!
That said I take several vitamins and supplements that have their efficacy debated….I guess they can't do too much harm
No stick with your judgment if you like. I was just pointing out that we live in a world of charlatans and snake oil sellers yet despite so many being proven ineffective they still continue to sell well. This one needs further research to make anything out of it that's all…it may even come out and cure cancer and global warming ;-)
@flabberchops: You are well in your right to neg, and also to challenge the seller about this product. Healthy discussion.
@slipperypete: I think it was reasonable to question me.
I've seen people in my professional life come to hospital with serious illness secondary to complimentary medications (eg serotonin syndrome from St John Worts, Liver failure from a chinese medication) so that's why these claim concern me.
It was my first neg, It's made me feel pretty hardcore.“It was my first neg, It's made me feel pretty hardcore.”
ha ha….It's definitely a power trip but don't let it get to you. Just remember you are still mortal
Interesting the St Johns Wort….I've seen the warning but never thought it actually did that. Gonna have to pass that on to a friend who is alcoholic and taking that for depression. He's a real 'alternative medicine' bloke who claims he feels miraculous benefits of some of these 'natural' things within minutes!!!
Superbherbs: Who cares if there is a study or a hundred. You need to learn how to appraise evidence: http://www.cebm.net/critical-appraisal/
In terms of the level of evidence, the link you posted is as useful as someone quoting the Daily Mail newspaper as medical advice (seriously!).
Here's a link to pyramid of evidence (in case you didn't realise, your link is the bottom layer)
http://www.ebmconnect.com/public//ebm2.jpgInstead of using pubmed like google (ie you don't have the ability to formulate a PICO question), you should simply use tripdatabase.com. It'll make sifting through BS quick (yes your product is BS):
https://www.tripdatabase.com/search?categoryid=11&criteria=s… (0 results!)Anyone with any agenda can do a study, no matter how biased you want the outcome to be, then put it on pubmed or any database, then any misinformed individual can put a url like you have and say "gee look there's a study!". It means bugger all.
I ask my patients, if these naturopathic herbs are so good, why aren't they used in the kids hospitals for those poor little ones with cancer? Are we doctors that stupid that we didn't realise the secret to good health is a simple google search away? Are we all conspired to big pharma and willing to let those poor kids with cancer die? If any proven claims of benefit to improve the immune system and with low side effect profile I can pretty much assure you the first ones we'd hope to help would be paediatric patients.
I apologise for coming off a bit bitter, I find it hard when people push this snake oil like stuff around. I see needless death in people opting for this rubbish when true evidence based healthcare would give survival benefits.
So many people buy into this snake oil stuff it's crazy. It's like all common sense goes out the window and they think there is some new magic product that solves all these problems. When in reality everyone already has all the information they need to get the most out of themselves, but it often requires more effort than money, and then the lazy just decide to spend money on the miracle cure…. Making these scammers rich.
we live in a world of attempted shortcuts and scammers preying on this
whats worse is that more and more people are getting sucked into the world of non science…it's actually quite alarming
To be fair Ayurveda is a legitimate form of alternative medicine and has been around for years. Just because something cannot be scientifically proven in the Western world doesnt automatically make it a scam.
@Piranha2004: no it does mate. Most alternative medicine is bullshit. Because you know, you could have a spirit pressing your body, which is a known symptom that Ayurveda can"cure".
Is this made from mountain snakes?
85% pure snake oil
Extracted from the purest Himalayan snakes, the oil is the purest and most potent due to the altitude.
SO what are you actually supposed to do with this? Drink it, apply it, lick it etc?
you can simply eat it straight as i do but it is a pretty strong taste otherwise stirring it in your coffee completely masks the taste or dissolve in water or add to smoothies. The traditional way to consume it is in warm goats milk or cow's milk but you can consume however you like
I'm lactose intolerant, can I use almond milk?
It's a soothing balm, simply rub it onto the rash or tinea infection.
Warning: Not to be used on the pubis region.
Is it just me or did everyone else read that a Pure Himalayan Shit at first glance?
I did a search for Pure Himalayan Shit and this came up.
Actually it reminded me of "Alibi", a word game we used to play at school where you encode and decode normal English words in a way that's easy to understand if you know how but incomprehensible to most people, by inserting extra bits in each syllable. So you'd take a phase like "My name is Andy" and it would become "Milabi naylabame illabis Allabandeelaby".
So decoding that in Alibi, Shilajit does indeed mean Shit! :)
Actually just found a reference to Alibi on Wikipedia. My money is on this stuff being a scam by someone who went to school in Australia about the same time I did! :)
I'm sold at "The humus consists of 60-80% organic matter, is bitter in taste, and has an odor like cow's urine"
which is from https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2876922/ Shilajit: A panacea for high-altitude problems
another quote form the same source:
Footnotes
Source of Support: NilConflict of Interest: None declared
Does that make it 85% pure?