I already have three children and don't want any more. Does anyone know where I can get a cheap vasectomy? I don't have private health cover so I presume that I will just have to pay out of pocket.
I dont care who does it, preferably just something simple like a GP clinic. It has to be a doctor obviously, I don't want any DIY jobs.
Thanks.
Chainsaw.
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My nuts a crying while a read this…. OP just pull out.
I just couldn't bear to do this, I am constantly amazed at how many people get it done voluntarily
I think vasectomy starts from about 3000$. I was considering it, I have no kids and don't plan on any. At the moment though, condoms and birth control pills are doing the job.
Becomes a gay. Its free and can get married legally too.
No you can't.
I ready on twitter today that it is not a choice.
Who knows, he could be a closet bisexual.
I imagine HIV medication isn't cheap.
As someone who can and does actually do this procedure and only works in the public system - why does it have to be done privately? I do these regularly on our elective operating lists. Yes you will be put as a category C, which is a 365 day waitlist due to not being urgent, but you can get the procedure done (in NSW at least, and pretty sure my colleagues in QLD do them in public hospitals too). If you don't want to wait and use contraception for that year then yes you would have to pay. Worth noting even if you got it done tomorrow you'd have to wait until a semen analysis in about 12-14 weeks to make sure you were infertile.
I wouldn't get a GP to do it but I am biased, having to deal with the haematomas and complications of botched vasectomies done under local by GPs when they come to the emergency department. Also worth noting that vasectomies are the most litigious procedure performed - so I would get it done under general anaesthetic and get it done properly. The fastest way to get it done in the public would be to get a GP to refer you to a urologist with a public appointment, pay to see them in the specialist rooms and get them to put you on the public waiting list.p I wouldn't try to get seen in a public clinic as they may not even see you, or you'd wait a long time for an appointment (at least in NSW this would be the case).
thanks for the info. Although I don't want one, it is good to know how the public system works - its kind of all a mystery to most unless its urgent/life threatning.
But elective type stuff like a vasectomy (any other electives can be public) its good to know how to get it done.
You should do an AMA (ask me anything).
Would love to know.
Apologies for slow reply, I'm not great at replying to forums. Would love to do an AMA once I've finished with my horrible (and final) specialist exams later this year.
What would the procedure cost as private patient with a urologist? Will private health insurance cover the costs?
Will a urologist do the no-scalpel surgery or go in with a scalpel? Does either technique have better outcomes?
What do you think is the difference between "scalpel" and "no scalpel" surgery? There is no way to do this surgery without cutting into you somewhere. Anybody who tells you otherwise is just pulling your leg.
I never suggested the no-scalpel procedure didn't involve surgical instruments. From what I've read the non scalpel procedure used sharp forceps (instead of a scalpel for a traditional procedure)
My question is are the outcomes different depending on the type of procedure? Have GPs just jumped in the no-scalpel procedure bandwagon, because it's convenient to do in their clinic, instead of a hospital?
@sp00ker: What I'm trying to say is that if anybody tells you "no scalpel is better" ask them why. So they cut into your scrotum with scissors instead of a scalpel. So what? You still have a cut and it's the same size and it still has to heal. The exact same procedure is performed, takes just as long and both can be done as an outpatient or hospital based procedure. This is just a marketing term, do not fall for it. The bit where the scalpel is used, at the very start, takes approximately 1 sec. It is NOT the main part of the procedure.
Right … I was hoping the guy that does these procedures would reply with his/her opinion.
What do you think is the difference between "scalpel" and "no scalpel" surgery?
Two bricks.
@sp00ker: I actually do these procedures as a general surgeon in NSW. If someone has private insurance I do them at the private hospital if they want to avoid a long wait. If they don't, I put them on a waiting list at one the public hospitals I work at. Private insurance covers it. What you have to ask is: 1. What is the gap on the hospital stay (different policies have different gaps). 2. What is the gap from the anaesthetist (this can range from nothing to a couple of grand) and 3. What is the gap from the surgeon (this again ranges from nothing to a couple of grand).
The charge for any private procedure is up to the specialist concerned. Some charge what can only be described as an absurd amount, not just for vasectomies but all cases, including cancer cases. It is something that the surgical and broader medical community need to address, given it is not really an open market where people are easily able to obtain prices. But that is another topic entirely.
Scalpel vs no scalpel is really just a preference of the surgeon, doesn't make much difference. I prefer to split the skin with sharp forceps (no scalpel) but my current hospital doesn't have these so I don't have a choice. Less bleeding from my anecdotal experience, but that's superficial and generally some local with adrenaline at the end settles it down either way. Urologists do both, can just ask the surgeon you're seeing how they do it.
Hey Doc,
can you confirm if in your "patient's" experience the procedure leads to loss of sexual appetite ?
For who, him/her or them? :p
Not that I've ever come across and certainly in the literature there is nothing significant I've seen. If anything I'd hope the lack of requirement for contraception might help things out in that department.
There are complications to the procedure, including post-vasectomy pain syndrome, which can lead to a secondary decrease in libido. Not common at all though.
Wow, thanks for that, very informative.
I'm trying to save your balls here:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com.au/entry/contraceptive-app-nat…
There's a birth control app that's regulated by the FDA in the USA. It's solid if you stick to the dates.
Edit: Here's the name of the app:
http://nordic.businessinsider.com/swedish-nuclear-physicist-…
Sometimes this site reminds me of a Simpsons episode. Hi everybody, I am Doctor Nick.
$29.95?
LOL. I can remember at least two genuine times people have had this done… then had children months/years later. (And yes, they were theirs.)
You may not have had the benefit of my rural upbringing. Elastration may just be the budget solution you're after. No silly bricks. No blood loss either.
I remember seeing a sign advertising a cheap option at Gaythorne near where the old cinemas used to be. No idea if still there, but at the time I did wonder whether it is an op you want to skimp on?
Why though lol
Remember that if you get sniped, prepare to experience a noticeable loss of ******* apetite.
I'd like to see the research this comment is based on…
It's an often repeated "fact" about vasectomies. I personally think that it's guys trying to justify not having sharp objects near their junk, which I can sympathise with.
So, in other words.. it's bullshit.
@Martijn: I don't actually know for sure, which is the reason you should probably research it yourself.
I have had it done. No real pain. I paid $550 and my GP performed it. We had just had twins and 3 kids were enough for us. No need for the macho opinions. It is just a procedure and once you are cleared by the later test you can relax. I had the scalpel and all went well. Just remember to have a couple of bags of frozen peas handy.
Why do you have to have it privately? Medicare will cover it in a public hospital, you will just have to be on a waiting list. And a urologist doesn't have to do it, any good general surgeon worth his salt will be able to do this. It's a very simple procedure. We don't live in the US people.
Ask your wife to get an implant, very cheap
It goes in the under arm, very non invasive and can be removed at any time; lasts for 3-5 years at a time
As a bonus, your wife might not get her period (varies from person to person)
Mine has hasnt had hers in 5 months, then gets it as regular the next, then nothing for another 5 months
She's so (profanity) happy
Age 25
Get your wife to ask her doctor if interested
It wold will for some and not for others. There's side effects to hormonal contraception in some women.
Agreed.
Or go one step further and get a Mirena. Even less side effects, even less likely to get a period, and lasts for 5 years!
That's all well and good if you don't play away from home…
Why would you want to get the cheapest doctor? Health is not something you should skimp on.
Hmmm… let me give you an example.
I went to a dr in Westmead Private for this. Initial consult: $300. Then comes the list of what it will cost. Total (specialist fees and OR fees) for westmead (excluding anaesthetist) was $1400. ZERO covered by my provate health, cause it is DAY surgery.
DrMarie, which is about 500m down the road do the same procedure for $500 (at the time). And the guy doing it does 5 locations per week… and they have 24hr after support.
I agree, your health isn't something you should skimp on… but there's also no point in paying more than you should.
sounds like private health to me. Few grand a year… go to get something done.. here is your enormous bill with the condescending attitude from the system that you shouldn't skimp on your health.
My mum currently has 2 different unrelated forms of cancer. For one, she is being seen by the most experienced and recognised Australian specialist (its a rarer form of Leukemia). The other required her to have emergency surgery recently, again, the surgeon was one of the best and most experienced in the state.
She's a public patient. Honestly, other than shit food in the hospital and some strange bureaucracy, she has had the best of care that money could provide.
Sorry to hear about the cancer. Hope you and your family are doing okay and i hope there's light at the end of the tunnel for your mum
thats why many doctors/retailers rip off ppl, because most ppl (like you) think the more expensive the better. No one thinks there are still good and fair ppl out there doing the better job with less money BECAUSE they are not greedy!!!
I guess google was too hard to use….
What's up with you? Posting hate comments everywhere.
If you think that's hate then man you're gonna be devastated when you step into the real world…
@TurkishDelight: That link makes as much sense as you jerking off into the toilet, it's like you didn't actually know what you wanted to say so just randomly linked a post.
Smart doge.
@TurkishDelight: When you pretend like you actually thought about something when you posted it, you are clueless kid.
Keep jacking off into the toilet, that's the only notable thing that will happen in your life judging by your comments.
Forget the vasectomy. Start wearing Crocs.
Don't do it. There are significant risks involved (up to 2 in 5) that are often down played where the procedure fails (only find out after falling pregnant) and has to be repeated, where permanent damage is done which affects the chances of reversing it, and where infectionS (with capital S) mean that you may spend months if not years taking medicines and having to abstain from sex or have sex with protection - all of which you're obviously trying to avoid.
There are other ways - other than pulling out. Look up the ovulation cycle and time it right - and for those peak days use condoms or revert to non penetrative intercourse.
that's terrible advice for contraception. timing the ovulation window has a very high rate of failure. the only worse option would be not using contraception at all
It needs to be combined with other methods. I didn't say just use that.
Am i the only one old enough to remember Lorena Bobitt?
This is a positive cash flow solution. It gives you the option to be a pornstar afterwards
I saw a sign at Keperra Golf Course for $99 vasectomys.
Dude, just pull out. It's that simple. No scalpels, surgery, worry or expensive hospital bills.
Already tried that.
Do or do not. There is no try.
Bear in mind that if you drive a manual vehicle, it'll be hard to drive at least for a few days after the op.
These guys always seem to be advertising cheap vasectomies
http://www.couriermail.com.au/questnews/north/gaythorne-clin…
https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/120134
Queensland Vasectomy Clinics
General practitioner in Gaythorne, Queensland
Address: 383-391 Samford Rd, Gaythorne QLD 4051
Phone: (07) 3833 6701
Just pull knob out and empty on back.
Vasectomy is a fantastic contraception option if you don't plan any more children - cheaper than another child, less potential hormonal side effects for the female compared with implanon/mirena/pill and it's great to see men take a lead in family planning. The procedure is relatively simple and is safe to do under local anaesthetic. There are 2 basic methods, the no-scalpel technique vs the conventional method. Addressing the earlier points, the accepted risk of early failure from a no-scalpel vasectomy is about 1/300 and risk of delayed failure is about 1/2000 according most of the literature. Failure rates are similar to the long-acting contraception options like IUD and Implanon. Withdrawal methods have a wide ranging success rate of 75-99% according to family planning NSW. Like any surgery you can have risks of bleeding, infection and post-operative pain which will need to be discussed with you prior to your procedure. You should also not go into a vasectomy with an expectation it can be reversed. Reversal can be expensive and not always successful.
It generally costs $400 - 800 depending on the provider. A GP trained in vasectomy should to have additional insurance to cover themselves which may explain some of the additional cost. The cost would generally be higher if you plan for a urologist to do it particularly under general anaesthetic (which potentially carries more risk than local). The medicare rebate is usually around $165 and you have to remember that there maybe an additional charge from the pathology lab who performs the check of clearance (which is at minimum 12 weeks and 20 ejaculations) which can vary from around $20 - $60 in Queensland. Every doctor is different in what they advise patients about post operative recovery, so check with the doctor. I hope this helps with some general information.
I'm shooting blanks since 18. Never got trapped, never had this problem.
I'm shooting blanks since 18.
How does that work? You only hit puberty at 18 or something else happened at 18 to make you impotent.
Probably twisted cords ! Was traced back to that much later in life.
I had it done last year. Got referral to Urologist. Saw Urologist and booked in for a few months down the line. Could have been done the following week however I have seasonally busy work and needed to wait until times were quiet. All up on the public system it cost me $35 for the GP and $97 for the Urologist. This was in WA. Everything else was fully covered - and that was being fully knocked out. I agree with not letting your GP do it - I only like special people around my nuts.
I recently went through this process in SA and although I can't help with the QLD part of it I will share my experience.
I went to a GP asked for a referral for a vasectomy, asked for public hospital if possible, he said in SA at least that they only do that for certain medical conditions (but it is worth trying in other states as a first option, depends how urgently you need it done).
I was then referred privately to a place that wanted to charge $1200, knowing that it was way to expensive I went searching around forums and then called up a place that other people were saying was cheaper. I confirmed the pricing and went into my GP with the doctors name and asked for a referral to him. All in all I ended up $250 out of pocket (this was a year or two ago).
I know lots of other people are saying don't skimp on anything involving your balls… but honestly it's an incredibly basic procedure that is very hard to stuff up. I have had absolutely no issues, pain was minor and didn't last very long at all.
The feeling you get knowing that you wont have any more whingey bloody kids is the best feeling in the world!
Someone actually saw this poster in Russia.
And recognised the face of this doctor. Quite famous chap too.
Anyone can read Russian to find out if snipping is part of his services?
Snipping and handling is extra.
A cheap vasectomy, now I've seen it all.
Im not sure 'cheap' is really the way to look at this type of thing. You want someone very experienced, and no multiple bookings or refferelas required. Go see Dr Snip, $550 after medicare rebate, takes about 15min and 3 days and your back at work http://drsnip.com.au/
Airtasker app
Another thing I forgot to mention. Always worth checking the doctors registration with aphra here: https://www.ahpra.gov.au/ - this site will tell you if the doctor has had any cautions / conditions on their registration.
One guy I was considering had conditions on his registration due to something he did / was accused of doing so I stayed well away.
About reversal, I had a consultation last week and am going in for the procedure in June. Looking forward to not having to even think about contraception tbh. I asked the urologist about reversal and cryogenic sperm storage, mostly because even though we're finished having a family I'm still a couple of years off 40.
He uses the scalpel technique and explained that when he cuts the vans deferens, he then tucks the two ends into separate layers of the scrotum which improves the physical barrier. From memory, fail rate is something like 1/1000 compared with 1/100 for Mirena; pretty sure they quote conservative numbers.
Apparently this technique also makes reversals more successful, so his answer to me regarding sperm storage was that:
* requests for reversal are not that common
* the technique improves possibility of reversal
* there is an ongoing financial cost to store and then, you know, use the turkey baster
As soon as I saw the title I KNEW the comments would be good!
vote me up IF you ONLY came here to read the funny comments :D
I am a wife. I totally recommend this. In fact, I would go as far as saying we are entitled to this especially after going through pregnancy, child birth and majority of looking after the kids.
They are usually around $450-$600 mark at GP.
You're entitled to make a personal medical decision on behalf of your spouse because you had kids? I'm SO incredibly glad you're not MY wife. Makes about as much sense as saying a man has the right to insist your tubes are tied after years of working 9-5 and taking out the garbage. Misandry is just as disgraceful as mysogyny!
Fyi, alot of women have to go through years of different contraception just because their husbands don't get the snip after having kids.
I think it's actually an incredible gesture of responsibility from both parents.
I have no problem with either party making an informed decision to use a form of contraception. If neither wants to do anything permanent, condoms are a good fallback, though note that no form of contraception is 100% effective or 100% risk free. (Even condoms can have issues like allergic reaction).
Anyone who feels entitled or that they can force or pressure their partner into permanent contraception however is a disgrace, regardless of gender. I know I wouldn't force my wife to have her tubes tied and she wouldn't force me to have a vasectomy.
And who the **** is downvoting this? Are we living in the dark ages where it's okay to force people into sexual subjugation?
How would you interpret "I would go as far as saying we are entitled to this" exactly? Informed consent?
Replace "vasectomy" with the feeling "entitled" to physical intimacy. Still comfortable with it?
I saw an add in Brisbane for non scalpel vasectomy, no idea how that is carried out
Not sure if this should be in the forums, no kids this might be the biggest saving of the year.
Finally this is appropriate