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  PR0r on 11/02/2017 - 11:00

  Anyone using these guys experienced any throttling?

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    Vladdo on 11/02/2017 - 11:03

    None.. i'm a 22mbit connection and usually download around 1.8-2.0mb/sec ..

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      random101 on 11/02/2017 - 11:13

      You won't notice it until you get a 100mbit connection… So happy to hear from those that have such speeds.

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        [Deactivated] on 11/02/2017 - 11:30

        who has 100mbit connect Os? Optus tops out at ~2-3MB/s. Telstra via a VPN can get ~4-5MB/s.

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        sirrobin on 11/02/2017 - 13:34

        +2

        @supabrudda: most cable and nbn customers can get 100 mbps. Also 1 MB = 8 Mb

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        [Deactivated] on 11/02/2017 - 14:17

        @sirrobin: hi, yeah but thats limited to within the ISP's network, outside that it's slower. And traffic going OS is slower again. Optus international link appears to be limited to less then 3MB/s, but usually 2-2.5MB/s. Telstra is higher (especially over a VPN), but I never had more then 4MB/s to LA. You're only as fast as your slowest link.

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        sirrobin on 11/02/2017 - 14:37

        @supabrudda: i have no problem saturating my 100 mbps cable connection. your probably need a better router

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        [Deactivated] on 11/02/2017 - 14:45

        @sirrobin: overseas? Who's ur isp?

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  goober on 11/02/2017 - 11:16

  Any good for a back up? Retention rate?

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    [Deactivated] on 11/02/2017 - 11:23

    +1

    seems to work well for me.
    I've got 4 diff block a/c's, this seems to get a good work out.

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  jazoom on 11/02/2017 - 12:57

  -2

  I tried to get into Usenet before and I couldn't get any service set up properly (don't think I tried these guys). It was a pretty terrible experience.

  Anyone know of a good guide on how to set this up and use this effectively for… hey yeah, I see it now! Behind the tree, over there!

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    jollster101 on 11/02/2017 - 16:27

    +1

    Google is your friend. It's all out there for using with a Nas, RPI, desktop and anything else you can think of. Not your microwave though, don't think that's been done yet.

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      jazoom on 11/02/2017 - 19:43

      I tried for several hours (using Google). Maybe I was just brain dead that day. I am somewhat technically literate.

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  spuderump on 11/02/2017 - 13:41

  I use these guys on a block account. Never have any issues with DCMA as long as its within a few days.

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    diamondd on 11/02/2017 - 13:50

    -1

    what do you mean as long as its within a few days?

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      toliman on 13/02/2017 - 05:47

      +4

      Tl;Dr is, Usenet is prone to data loss,

      but also dmca takedown requests from copyright holder companies that use Usenet indexers to find, then remove their media or software content within a few minutes. Public indexers are therefore a double edged sword.

      When you choose a Usenet provider, the factors are, cost, retention, speed, privacy/logging and the backbone of the provider.

      The majority (50+) use highwinds, which has become a big franchise for Usenet. Tons of resellers, similar prices.

      If you want reliability, you typically have a highwinds or cheap account and a European backbone account (or 3) that isn't highwinds so that you can find missing or expired content that highwinds has corrupted or deleted.

      Usenet is fairly laissez-faire with the files that are uploaded to the groups, but they are often Renamed and/or indexed for others to find, or not to find.

      Retention relies on two things. Server Storage, and the networks of each provider aka their backbone. Typically, a Usenet company has a few hundred terabytes of storage, and links to other Usenet servers when it can't provide a part from the servers. Hence, backbone.

      Storing 3+ years of Usenet data, people's random files and chat messages is ferociously expensive, so the workload is split up, and servers send each other updates to keep themselves updated and communicate with each other.

      With copyright material, all US and some European providers have to obey us or the European Union EU equivalent of dmca removal requests to comply with the Safe Harbour provisions of the dmca.

      Essentially, European providers eventually comply at different times and/or don't have to comply with the US law, which can be helpful not just for copyrighted items, but also for retention of older files.

      If starting out, a frugal Usenet account and a 500gb Usenet farm block account would be a good companion to each other.

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        diamondd on 13/02/2017 - 15:08

        I'm familiar with the general retention situation on Usenet, but wasn't sure how it related to DCMA in spuderump's post.

        so the point is basically if they get a take down notice for something it usually disappears on Usenet farm within a few days?

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  krushgroove on 11/02/2017 - 16:09

  +5

  The first rule of Usenet is….Don't talk about Usenet.

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  jollster101 on 11/02/2017 - 16:25

  +vote for the write up alone