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BES980 - Breville Oracle for $1599.20 at The Good Guys on eBay + Free 3kg Beans Via Redemption PU or Delivery

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BES980 - Breville Oracle for $1599.20 at The Good Guys on eBay + Free 3kg Beans Via Redemption PU or Delivery
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javajo on 16/11/2016 - 06:51 ebay.com.au (465 clicks)
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Good Guys have fixed the EBAY pricing for the Oracle to match thier catalog price. It had been $2299 or $2199 (I dont recall) only 12 hours ago and they have recently dropped it to the catalog price of $1999. Add the cguys20 code to bring it down to $1599.20 which looks like the matching best pricing based on previous deals. You can also redeem 3 kg of coffee over 3 months from breville using this link. http://breville.pabloandrustys.com.au/ I have no idea if the coffee is any good but it is free which makes this a pretty sweet deal on top of the pricig.

We have one of these at work and it makes a good coffee well and is consistent which is great if you like coffee but are not hipster enough to be a barista.

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  • [Deactivated] on 16/11/2016 - 07:12
    -3

    How does this compare to the aldi expressi for 100 bux

    • captain smash on 16/11/2016 - 08:17
      +1

      HAHAHAHAHAAH

      • dbun1 on 16/11/2016 - 09:25

        The real joke is paying 100 bux for the Expressi…..OzB fail

    • Flyerone on 16/11/2016 - 08:38

      Is that the 6th or 7th time?

      Getting lazy. No punctuation and SMS spelling. Tith tith tithsk.

  • jimval on 16/11/2016 - 07:24

    The 3kg of coffee beans alone is worth more.

  • ca6leguy on 16/11/2016 - 07:34

    How many coffees can you get with that price?

    • [Deactivated] on 16/11/2016 - 08:05
      +2

      I bought one of these in June using a different deal - paid $1716.87.

      I've been tracking number of coffees in a Google Sheet and estimating a cost of $4 per cup if I had paid for the coffee the machine only owes me $491.57 this morning. A cup of coffee now costs me $5.35 on average but will only keep going down.

      Note: these calculations don't take into account things like the cost of a double shot at a cafe, vs. the cost of a double shot at home.

      The machine itself is great. Takes a while with each new type of bean to dial the grind in properly, but once you've got it its awesome!

  • PaKoRa on 16/11/2016 - 08:02

    point 3 in T&C for free beans…
    "For the removal of doubt, Internet sales via eBay or similar online third party and/or auction Internet websites are excluded from this Promotion."
    hmmm…..

    • wfdTamar on 16/11/2016 - 08:15
      +4

      When you buy from The Good Guys off eBay you get a normal Good Guys receipt - you can't tell it was bought off eBay. So it should be fine for this bean promo.

      • wfdTamar on 16/11/2016 - 16:29

        The other good thing is the receipt is for the full value so you can do a credit card Price Protection claim (Coles MC have 2 years!) based on that price.

  • Impulse Buy on 16/11/2016 - 08:03
    +1

    Personally, I looked at purchasing this or The BES920 + Smart Grinder about a year ago and ended up going with the BES920 mainly because

    • Separate parts. If something breaks you can still either do plunger coffee, or purchase pre ground coffee.
    • Difficult to clean internals, remove oils from grinder etc
    • Smart grinder seemed to product a better grind when I demoed both in store.

    Not saying this is a bad machine the coffee is still excellent, just if you are comparing.

    Keep in mind the BES920 is a fairly manual machine meaning no auto foaming or auto tampering. I enjoy the process of making a coffee but others may not.

    • [Deactivated] on 16/11/2016 - 08:06
      +2

      Same reasons for choosing 920+smart grinder. Much better full manual starter.

      Tempted to go plumbed machine now.

      • wfdTamar on 16/11/2016 - 08:33

        but if you reckon the 'what if something breaks' is a reason to go 920 how does that point work with a built in? Surely that's much more tricky for a repair? What is the advantage of a built in? Don't have to fill it with water and…?

        • [Deactivated] on 16/11/2016 - 08:55

          A plumbed machine doesn't have a pump from the tank to the boiler.

          Also, I am thinking of a lever machine. No pump from boiler to group head.

          If anything fails, it's plumbing, which both types of machines have. The plumbing is also external up to the point of the boiler. Much more access to serviceable components.

          But most failures are boilers and pumps. The boiler is a key component, the pump is a convenience component.

        • wfdTamar on 16/11/2016 - 09:16

          @tshow: Hmm, you'd wonder then why they don't design machines with gravity feed from tank to boiler to cut out one pump then. I s'pose just hard to fit a gravity feed tank in.

        • [Deactivated] on 16/11/2016 - 09:25

          @wfdTamar:

          You'd need a tall muchine. As is, the tank outlet is at the lowest point. It's hard to put the tank on top because that'll mean the boiler will be much lower than the group head. Priority is always boiler distance to group head to prevent temperature (and to a lesser extent, pressure) loss to the portafilter.

        • testeagles on 16/11/2016 - 10:03

          @tshow: plumbed machines definitely still have pumps. They are called a rotary pump and are used to regulate the pressure. Tank machines use a vibrating pump and that is why they are louder when in use due to the vibrating piston.

        • [Deactivated] on 16/11/2016 - 12:20

          @pacsman:
          Not in a lever style machine it doesn't. It uses a piston to force the pressure into the filter. The piston is gravity fed.

        • wfdTamar on 16/11/2016 - 16:30

          What about for steaming the milk?

        • Sammyboy on 17/11/2016 - 09:19

          would never go plumbed again. Pain in the ass to service with having to disconnect and reconnect especially when the machine weighs 25kgs. With expobar connection was underneath. Then theres drilling a hole in your bench top. Final straw for me was when then water filter connection leaked and flooded the kitchen overnight which wrecked the floor boards and cabinets.

    • Impulse Buy on 16/11/2016 - 08:07

      Just a note this is listed as BEP920BSS on TGG Ebay for $1019.20 w/ Discount here http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Breville-BEP920BSS-the-Dynamic-Du…?

    • wfdTamar on 16/11/2016 - 08:23
      +1

      I have a 980. The 980 at this kind of price is generally about 50% more than the 920 combo when on a good price (has been a bit below $1000).

      The grinder is probably the least likely thing to go wrong. If it happened to completely die, you could just get a Smartgrinder.

      The grinder part is really no different or harder to clean than a Smartgrinder (and I have both). Seems to be the same mechanism - just built in.

      Once you get the grind set right it's extremely easy to make a café quality coffee consistently from the 980 without having to really think about what you're doing.

      Having said that the 920 is probably the better buy simply being so much cheaper. Apart from the auto grinding, tamping and steaming it is pretty much the same machine.
      You can also manually steam. So apart from the grinding and tamping the idea that this gives you no manual options is not correct. The only thing the 920 lets you do (that the 980 can't) is the tamping!

      Also you can transform a pretty average espresso machine simply by using a Smartgrinder (often below $200) . A very cheap improvement.

      • javajo on 16/11/2016 - 16:56

        I would also add that 1 key difference between the 920 and 980 is that the 980 will contain all the grinds as the grouphead gets locked in place for grinding/tamping. The paired grinder with the 920 tends to spray a few grinds outside the basket so cleanup/mess may be something to consider if youe a neat freak. Both make a great coffee and you cant go wrong either way.

    • [Deactivated] on 16/11/2016 - 09:02

      Forgot to add
      -group head heats up the bean container in the BES980. Not much but one of the key points for proper bean storage is climate control.

      Not a big difference if you're using supermarket beans, but freshly roasted beans would stale noticeably quicker.

      • wfdTamar on 16/11/2016 - 09:20

        You really can't feel any extra heat where the beans are if the machine has been on for a while. Also you don't leave beans sitting in there for ages. Just tip them in as you need them.

        The other advantage of the 980 over the 920 is less bench space used. They are both the same size (not compact!), but having to add a Smartgrinder could be an issue if your kitchen is lacking in benchspace.

        • [Deactivated] on 16/11/2016 - 09:23

          Yeah. Space issue is the only perceivable advantage (big advantage to some).

          I did feel the warmth in the grinder in the store demo. Wasn't subtle either.

        • wfdTamar on 16/11/2016 - 09:37

          Perhaps if you have it on for hours. So in say an office, but then you'd be going through the beans so fast they wouldn't get a chance to deteriorate.

          Actually does the 920 have a single & double basket? Because the 980 only has a double (well full size) and chews through beans. There's no option to reduce the amount of beans used per cup to reduce strength.

        • [Deactivated] on 16/11/2016 - 13:09

          @wfdTamar:
          920 comes with both but I prefer the double basket even if I only wanted a single shot.

          The single basket needs to be tamped differently. I prefer consistency.

  • jimval on 16/11/2016 - 10:01

    Though I don't have the 920, I do have the 900 (& smart grinder), which is similar with the main difference being the shot control & adjustable steam temp I believe.

    I later purchased the 980 because of its automation/convenience. I currently have both the 900 & 980 side-by-side thinking that I still want the flexibility of using the fully manual 900.

    After more than a year, I have found that I now do not use the 900 at all. For me, it's because the quality of shot and froth of the 980 is superb every time. 100% consistent. I did not think it was possible with what is mostly an automatic machine.

    I'm not a barista, so I'm not going to get it right by hand with the 900 every time, not to mention the time I save getting ready for work in the mornings using the 980.

    For me, the 980 is a winner.

    • dbun1 on 16/11/2016 - 10:14

      How does the quality of the shot differ? What I mean is how does the 980 get more consistent results?

      I can see why it would with regards to the milk texture as it is an automated steam wand, but curious to know more about the coffee pour side.

      • wfdTamar on 16/11/2016 - 10:22

        It's all the stuff inside, the accurate temperatures, PID - lots of guff. Though why the 900 (or 920) would be different I don't know. I thought they were pretty much the same, but maybe not.

        I do know the only thing that changes is the bean consistency (with ageing, possibly weather) and milk age (even season of the year). So over a bag of beans you may need to adjust the grind a few 'clicks' and you might get slightly better milk at some times of the year (apparently Spring means more protein - better result) or 2 litre jug.

      • jimval on 16/11/2016 - 10:30

        No problem.

        It's removing me as the variable of inconsistency in regards to the tamping which obviously affects the quality of the shot. The 980 is doing the tamping for me, consistently.

        I'm human and I can't get the pressure exactly the same or right every time. If I accidentally apply too much pressure, the shot will taste bitter. No such problem with the 980.

        • wfdTamar on 16/11/2016 - 10:39

          I did a quicko basic course that came free with a Sunbeam machine and the Barista reckoned the tamping pressure is not very significant a factor as the machine pressure (when doing the shot) is so much greater than the tamping anyway. I'm not sure how correct he was.

        • dbun1 on 16/11/2016 - 11:54

          @wfdTamar:

          Tamping can impact the pressure of the machine, along with grind size.
          Most will say that the aim is to be consistent with your tamping pressure and then alter the grind size to get the machine to sit in the right pressure range for good extraction.

          If you're not consistent with your tamping pressure, then changing the grind size may not achieve the desired result - this is where the Oracle is good in that it tamps the same all the time. I did not know it had an automatic tamp as well.

        • [Deactivated] on 16/11/2016 - 13:08

          @dbun1:
          Or you can get a calibrated tamping mat. The problem with any of these solutions is that the pressure required doesn't just vary based on beans and grind size, it depends on the age of the roast (for fresh roasts), and that can change within hours for home roasts.

        • Sammyboy on 17/11/2016 - 09:25

          @wfdTamar: tampers make a massive difference. Those courses talk a lot of crap. Look up Reg Barber and Pulman tampers. You can get concave, flat and convex tamping head to match the screen shape of your machine. I had my tamper head machined to fit the basket exactly. Didnt believe it until i saw and tasted the difference myself. That said I must say the Oracle tamps very well and consistently.

        • wfdTamar on 17/11/2016 - 09:37

          My 980 was rubbish at tamping. Often it would leave a complete mess after tamping and I'd have to do it manually. That was with quite a few different kinds of beans, mostly bought from good online roasters. Only when I started roasting my own has it been ok. It could have been something to do with my particular machine as I haven't heard of anyone else having that problem on Coffeesnobs.

  • mung12 on 16/11/2016 - 14:46

    Thanks! Bought one! I've been watching this for a long time. Best deal ever in my opinion. I've been a bad son this year, hardly home to see mum. I think she will be over the moon for Christmas :)

    • javajo on 16/11/2016 - 16:49

      lols, I bought this for my mum too! We have the BES920 at home but I figure this makes it simpler for my folks to make a consistent coffee.

  • grababargain on 22/11/2016 - 19:45

    Registered for the free coffee last Fri and will receive the first delivery on Wed/Thu.

  • javajo on 06/12/2016 - 22:01

    did anyone have any luck with the free coffe? my invoice shows ebaydelivery but the rest looks completely normal? I havnt tried it yet.

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