Breville Dynamic Duo BEP920BSS Coffee Machine $1299.99 Delivered (Was $1599.99) @ Costco (Membership Required)

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Dual boiler and grinder dynamic duo. Obviously not all time low and probably not even that close, but on current pricing this is a decent price on the pair.

Breville Dynamic Duo BEP920BSS
Dual Boiler heating system with control PID system with Smart Grinder Pro Auto grind and dose precision burr grinder with 60 grind settings.

This product features:

LCD screen
Dual Boiler heating system
Manual milk texturing
58 mm stainless steel portafilter
Auto grind and dose precision burr grinder with 60 settings

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Comments

  • +6

    Definitely sell that grinder, brilliant espresso machine though!

    • +2

      What's a reasonable grinder that will improve the coffee dramatically? I keep seeing this comment, then see recommendations for grinders that cost $600. At that price, I'd expect the coffee to be way way better.

      • +25

        People say that, but I have this grinder and machine and make a pretty good cup of coffee. Just takes some experimentation every time I change beans, as you need to play with the grind size and grind time. I'm sure there are better, but I'm sure there's a lot worse as well.

        • +2

          As far as actual grinding goes, the SGP isn’t as bad as popular opinion makes it out.

          It isn’t very consistent though so to get best results you need to work around it a bit with puck prep.

          The biggest issue is at retail you’re typically paying $250-399 for it (even in bundle) and it’s not particularly competitive at that price point.

          • +5

            @SanguinarySeraph: Fair re comments on retail, but Ozbargainers never pay retail, i got my SGP for $149 3-4 years ago on a Black Friday sale.

          • +1

            @SanguinarySeraph: Nobody buys it at retail though. Call it what it is - it's a $100-150 grinder (bundled in with the machine).

            It would be fine for 99% of users. Proper technique will far outweigh, upgrading to a more expensive grinder.

            • @Powershopz: What would you suggest is the "proper technique" for getting the best out of a Breville grinder? I fought with my Breville for a long time before deciding to upgrade. Now that I have upgraded I still want to use the proper technique to get the best out of my new grinder

              • +2

                @TightKingBilly: Proper technique in your overall coffee making process. Check out James Hoffman's YouTube channel.

                Proper technique would cover stuff like -
                -Dialing in your grind
                -Puck prep - Using extra tools/gadgets to improve your shot quality (distributors/WDT/screens). Variety of handles and baskets on the market to improve your output
                -Correctly steaming milk (huge impact on your drink quality if you're doing milk coffees vs black)
                -regular machine maintenance/cleaning - both grinder and machine

                • @Powershopz: Well I've been doing most of that already. I haven't bothered with a WDT because I haven't had channelling issues since I got a distributor. I have been considering a screen though. I also have considered a bottomless portafilter but I have a hard time seeing how that's really going to make a meaningful difference to the coffee and not just nice bling.

                  • @TightKingBilly: Interesting about the distributor, my research suggests they are snake oil (I do own one), but glad to see you're having good results

        • "Just takes some experimentation every time I change beans, as you need to play with the grind size and grind time. I'm sure there are better, but I'm sure there's a lot worse as well."

          That's the same with any time you're using different beans. Even on $1000+ grinders, you're still going to have to dial in your settings.

        • +1

          It's certainly capable of making decent coffee, its just over 10 years old and the home grinder market has really advanced a lot since then. Its also widely known the taste of your espresso is dictated much more by your grinder than your machine so this combo of great machine and mediocre grinder doesn't make a lot of sense. You'd get better and more consistent espresso out of a Breville Bambino and DF64 and save $250.

        • grinder is fine while it works, its not as good as some italian ones but for the $$ - its the best you can get

        • I have the smart grinder and dual boiler from breville.

          Friend has the dual boiler and a DF64 Gen 2. With the same beans the difference is negligible.

          On the other hand if either of our partners make us a coffee it's a noticable quality drop … because neither one of them has the inclination to learn how to properly steam milk.

      • +2

        I switched to the Varia VS3 and would recommend - I think on sale it was around $300 ish.

        The Eureka Mignon series are popular too for a flat burr and can be had for similar money at the low end.

        • +1

          Would 2nd that. We're on our second Dual Boiler machine in well over a decade of daily use. They are great. The Breville grinder is OK, used it for many years but then went to a Eureka Mignon Specialita when we got the new Dual Boiler and it's a nice step up. Better grind quality, finer adjustment and faster quieter grind from the flat burs. It's not going to make your coffee 'dramatically' better, but it is a noticeable difference.

          • @Denbo: Are you me?
            I had:
            * the BES900 and Smart Grinder,
            * repaired the BES900
            * replaced smart grinder with an updated smart grinder
            * replaced the BES900 with BES920
            * replaced the updated smart grinder with a Eureka Mignon Specialita
            * I'm looking sideways at the La Marzocco Linea Micra - but not just yet

      • +6

        I just got a DF54 delivered yesterday, around $400. I used the Breville for years and I just wasn't happy with the results, even with making a science out of the whole process, weighing the beans, weighing the shot, timing etc, it just wasn't consistent.
        I'm drinking only the second cup made using the DF54 right now so its really too early to make any conclusive judgements, but I do think it tastes better than the cup I had yesterday with the same beans and the Breville grinder.

      • +1

        SGP is fine for most.

      • +2

        I went from the Smart Grinder Pro to a DF64V. Love it! The DLC burrs that come with it are great for espresso and the freshly roasted beans that we can get here. I use SSP cast lab burrs which are a bit coarser, and better suited for filter coffee.

        • Love the big V

      • +1

        You can make great espresso using an above average grinder, with an entry level machine. But not vice versa.

        The SGP is an average, entry level grinder that can (just) grind to espresso size. It is convenient, time-programmable, and makes little mess.

        I upgraded to the DF64 around 4 years ago. Immediately more repeatable, flavours more apparent. It makes more mess though.

      • +1

        I've had that grinder for 10 years and still don't understand the issue people have with it. I've tried all types of beans and the ground coffee has been great each time.

      • For what it's worth i once got very experimental with a grinder and industrial Vittoria coffee machine. What i found was the grinder means little - any adjustable grinder will provide what your need. The key is finding right coarseness for you particular machine.

        For the Vittoria machine, or was a somewhat fine grind because the machine pressure was quite high. That was manual compressing though, so some people would need a more coarse blend to allow water flow.

        And that's really all that matters - flow rate. Adjust the grind until you achieve your preferred flow.

        The way it grinds doesn't matter, as long as the grind is consistent

      • This grinder is fine tbh, give it a go for a while. If you get the itch down the line, upgrade then. Yes, there's definitely better grinders out there that will get more out of this machine, but you done need to immediately upgrade.

    • +2

      The grinder is fine for a conical burr grinder. Just manually adjust the outer burr to go finer by 1 step and it is fine for dark roasts. For lighter roasts, a flat burr grinder is better as it can go finer, but that would cost 3x that of the Smart Grinder Pro anyway. Not everyone will spend that much for coffee.

    • +1

      The grinder is fine

  • +9

    This or 649 cups of 7 Eleven coffee

    • +5

      Beans cost extra, you will end up with much more coffee from 711

      • +2

        dont forget the milk!

      • But what quality

      • +2

        Aldi's beans are excellent now. The roasters that they source from are in Melbourne.

        • +1

          I second that and always FRESH! I'm gong to go grab a bag later.

    • +1

      Reminds me of this Futurama episode.

  • +1

    Great machine if you have multiple milk coffee drinkers in your household as you can steam and pull shots back to back without waiting for the boiler to cool down. Worth noting that we already get this machine ridiculously cheap in Australia as it retails for $1500 USD and £1250 and is still very popular in those markets.

  • -4

    coffee machine is good but the grinder is sh1t.

    • -2

      its amazing how people hate facts that are true.

  • +1

    I would recommend buying an extended warranty, if available.

    What type of water is everyone using? (other than tap, which I'm not going to use from now)

    • I use the 10L boxes of Purea water from woolies with 1g of potassium bicarbonate mixed into the 10L to make 'Rpavlis'water

    • +1

      Brisbane tap water with a standard filter jug. I descale every 12 months minimum as a result, and that's fine.

    • I use the 6x1.5l bottles of woollies water

    • Coles 1.5L bottles, think that was the espresso discord's consensus last I checked

  • -1

    Great machine but not the best grinder for that money. Anyone interested in getting a BDB I'd recommend waiting for a discount on the machine alone and spend the difference on a decent grinder.

  • -6

    Expensive…. That's all

    • +1

      Mine has lasted 10 years (plus was cheaper back in the day), so averaging it out…

    • What would you recommend as a cheaper alternative?

      • there isn't one

  • I went to a repair shop last week for a Philps steam iron repair. The shop is also a certified repairer for Breville. The number of Breville espressor machine being repaired there is alarming: https://imgur.com/a/7ON7CqI
    I personnaly went with Gaggia Classic and a Sette 270 grinder. Price is comparable -ish when on sale. Or find a Classic on fb marketplace with PID installed, they are priced similarly to a new unit.
    I added the PID to mine last year and it is totally worth it.

    • +12

      I suspect the number of breville machines being repaired is because a) there's lots of Brevilles out there and b) they actually are repairable, unlike a lot of other brands.

      • also the Barista Express over pressure value will fail sooner or later.

      • +3

        c) people just don't bother with the proper maintenance. Maintenance is critical just like any other mechanical device, but add water and pressure and it's a whole new world of hurt.

      • Absolutely agree with this. A good service - new seals, new pumps - can get several more years out of the machine and is at least half the price of buying a new one.

    • +1

      There was an issue with earlier models. I threw mine out because of it to find out later it was repairable

  • This or refurbished oracle?

    • This is essentially an oracle without the extra add ons

    • Depends on how much manual input you're happy with.

      I'd personally get new for the longer warranty, and less things that can go wrong with a machine without an inbuilt grinder.

      Having said that, I bought a refurb touch impress.

  • I just replaced my Smart Grinder Pro. Cord is significantly shorter and the motor sounds more high pitched and worse than original. All to make more margin to be sure. Accessories seems a bit thinned out too compared with the original.

  • +1

    Nice price. Thanks for sharing, got one

  • Sell the grinder and get a DF54

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