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HP ProLiant ML10 V2 Server + 1TB Drive $169 + Del @ Warehouse1

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HP ProLiant ML10 V2 Server + 1TB Drive $169 + Del @ Warehouse1
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Store RepWarehouse1 on 05/08/2016 - 16:11 warehouse1.com.au (8984 clicks)
Last edited 26/08/2016 - 13:44 by 1 other user

Hi Guys,

For anyone that doesn't already have an ML10, we hope an extra $10 for a 1TB drive agrees with you. (as compared to the previous deal, which was model without the 1TB drive)

surcharge applies to PayPal, Amex, Visa and Mastercard - bank transfer has no fee :)

Happy friday.

Warehouse1

26/8 12:45pm - the item is available again (previously out of stock 15/8).

Lots of people have been asking us to re-open this deal and so here we are! :)

(While stocks last, once this deal is expired again, we will unable to offer this model again.)

FYI - we have none available in store - only in our warehouse.

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  • silviodante on 05/08/2016 - 16:16
    +22

    When will it be on sale for $99 again?

    • HomeAlone on 05/08/2016 - 20:05
      +15

      Good luck.

      Hi Guys,

      Our apologies, there is an error in our system that keeps putting this to $99, we have now found and corrected it and it shouldnt recur.

      We are already selling these below our cost at $159 and cannot support at $99, we did let some orders through on a previous occasion as an act of goodwill towards ozbargainers, but we cant lose this much again and for the 5 or so people that managed to get an order through today, we unfortunately need to immediately refund them.

      This was not a deliberate "bait and switch" as someone said above, we certainly didnt try to promote anything… just a complex system with many thousands of products and an issue we couldnt find until now.

      Honestly we were suprised at how quickly people jumped onto this after it changed! #ozbargain

      We appreciate the support of the Ozbargain community, thanks for understanding.

      Warehouse1

  • adam149 on 05/08/2016 - 16:21
    +1

    how does power usage compare to my n40l?

    • Store RepWarehouse1 @ Warehouse1 on 05/08/2016 - 16:27
      +1

      Hi Adam,

      it has a 350W PSU inside, i forget what the old N40L had.

      https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/244057

      Above is a discussion forum on this unit, it mgiht have some info that helps :)

    • RedHab on 05/08/2016 - 17:38

      Better in most regards. Much faster CPU. Proper Pentium 3000 series. More modern I/O and chipset and more roomy.

      However, for a HTPC, it is unsuitable as the fan is very noisy.

      • goose25 on 05/08/2016 - 18:05

        I haven't really noticed the fan being noisy, although it spools up to 100% for maybe 2 seconds every 10 minutes or so then settles.

        • andw on 05/08/2016 - 18:49
          +1

          My fan is really quiet as well.
          I don't use as HTPC though, if I did I am sure I would notice, but it is quieter than my old 'always on' PC.

        • deivu on 05/08/2016 - 19:17
          +1

          @andw:

          My ML10V2 is constantly sitting at 90% CPU in my lounge room and it's far quieter than any other PC/HTPC I've had.

          It does however spool to 100% for about 5 minutes when I first turn it on but then it stays quiet.

        • trongy on 05/08/2016 - 20:59
          +1

          More than decade ago I was supporting a few hundred HP desktops at work and a small percentage of them would do the same thing. Every time there was a firmware update I would try it. Sometimes it seemed to help. At least one user told me that the fan problem stopped after a firmware update only to return a few months later.

          It's weird to think that they probably have the same bug in their systems all these years later.

      • syousef on 06/08/2016 - 10:22

        Wow. It is always hard to gauge fan noise on Youtube but this doesn't sound good!

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mz6vFy5D97k

  • Store RepWarehouse1 @ Warehouse1 on 05/08/2016 - 16:31
    +1

    by the way, the ram sticks that go with this unit are here:

    4GB - http://www.warehouse1.com.au/Components/Memory/ProprietaryMe…
    8GB - http://www.warehouse1.com.au/Kingston KTH-PL316E/8G 8GB 1600MHz System Memory KTH-PL316E/8G

    we have the 8GB ones available now :)

    if anyone wants any of the WD Red NAS drives, let me know and i will see if we can do them a little cheaper for you.

  • nereus on 05/08/2016 - 16:32
    +27

    https://www.paypal.com/au/webapps/mpp/ua/useragreement-full#…

    Not impose a surcharge or any other fee for accepting our Services as a payment method.

    • myarken on 05/08/2016 - 16:43
      +22

      2.49% for using paypal is rich. that's against paypal rules.

      • jonathonsunshine on 05/08/2016 - 17:31
        +8

        It's kinda rude though on behalf of PayPal, they can charge a percentage but the seller isn't allowed to pass on the costs?

      • cheepwun on 05/08/2016 - 19:01
        +7

        2.49% for using paypal is rich. that's against paypal rules.

        The rules are designed to hide PayPal's real costs to customers (and the business). In a fairer world, these rules should be made illegal.

      • Antikythera on 06/08/2016 - 05:59
        +3

        lol i read the OP as

        1 - Address
        2 - forty nine percent surcharge

        two and a half is much better than the forty nine i thought it was.

    • Make it so on 05/08/2016 - 16:51
      +5

      Many organisations do, including the ones selling airfares. How else would they absorb the costs? By increasing the costs of other payment methods, and then lose business to organisations which do not offer Paypal?
      As much as I hate surcharges, I think Paypal is not being realistic.

      • Yekul on 05/08/2016 - 16:54
        +4

        2.49% for paypal I have no gripes with, for Visa/Mastercard it's absurd…

        • Make it so on 05/08/2016 - 16:55
          +6

          I would hazard a guess that they support Visa/Mastercard through Paypal.

        • Yekul on 05/08/2016 - 18:06

          @Make it so:

          So move on from the 90's I guess is my point, it's a very cheap service to have for your business nowdays, not like it used to cost that's for sure.

        • magic8ballgag on 05/08/2016 - 19:14

          @Yekul:

          But it still costs enough to have to forward that costs onto the customer?

        • Yekul on 05/08/2016 - 19:42
          +2

          @tranqme:

          But it's a core business practice now, not an "optional extra". An online shop and people are expected to pay via direct deposit to avoid extra charges? Which means waiting, no same day shipping, and potentially even missing out on stock for very popular items whilst payment clears.

          It's no different to accounting for wages, rent, electricity etc. it's an essential service.

          Fwiw, the bargain is good. No gripes there. Just think it's poor business to still charge people for using visa/MasterCard in this day and age (especially when there is no charge when it's done in store).

          Edit: re-read and realise no in store charge is only if via savings/cheque, which makes more sense as online payments go via credit.

        • asa79 on 06/08/2016 - 02:46

          @Yekul: and websites store your bank details get hacked and your details are gone to everyone with torrent access

        • Yekul on 06/08/2016 - 08:09

          @asa79:

          Oh yeah for sure. That has happened to me countless times now…
          (Sarcasm, hasn't happened once. In fact hasn't happened to anyone I even know :S)

        • jason101 on 06/08/2016 - 08:19
          +3

          I run a micro business and to keep our Desktop Merchant Terminal / Mobile Terminal and Website C/Card functionality Open is $90 per month, which includes the first $1500 of sales on Mobile & $1500 on Desktop Terminal - then the fees vary from around 1.5% - 2% of turnover depending on the type of card people use (Reward Point / Corporate Cards have a higher fee to the merchant). If you want the be cranky about surcharges, please blame the banks and not the merchants. Nothing irks me more than Choice / ACCC prattling on about how merchants are no worse than 1% off when customers pay by C/Card - for really really small businesses thats just not true.

        • kasp on 06/08/2016 - 09:31
          +2

          @jason101:

          1% of sale margin not profts.

          Could be 20% of the proft margin.

          Why are people complaining you are getting a machine dirt cheap.

        • Yekul on 07/08/2016 - 19:46
          +1

          @jason101:

          "Micro business". Ie, completely different size business to the one in question. Apples with apples and all that. Yes I appreciate its more difficult for "micro businesses".

          As for 'great' deal, I said it was a good deal. But that doesn't mean the OP should be exempt from all criticism, especially about this sort of business practice. 2.5% is not just falling even, it's actually making a profit on visa/MasterCard transactions.

          Would love to see the stats on who actually paid via direct deposit on all orders made…

    • scrimshaw on 05/08/2016 - 16:53
      +4

      They're not the only shop that does this, Mwave also charges 2% as well.

      • asa79 on 06/08/2016 - 02:47
        +1

        2% not 2.49%

    • Bnjam3 on 05/08/2016 - 21:01

      Payment surcharge is not accepted. But "Handling fee" is totally fine to them. OP can just change the wording from surcharge to handling and paypal will not do care.

    • [Deactivated] on 06/08/2016 - 00:43

      Interesting that the OP is replying to every thread other than this one. Note to self, pass on deals from this seller.

      For reference I changed from Woolworths to Coles solely because Woolworths refused to accept Visa debit cards and I've never been back… It's the little things sometimes

      • static on 06/08/2016 - 01:45
        +3

        Not only do WW accept visa debit cards but they now accept paypal. I don't shop at coles because they don't deliver to my area even tho their icecream is amazeballz

        • [Deactivated] on 06/08/2016 - 11:37

          They do now, they didn't when I switched, it was that decision that lost them any sale to me in the future. I am aware that they do now but there's no altruistic reason for them to offer that service, they haemorrhaged customers because of a decision to save 1.7 cents (not percent) per transaction

    • coolhand on 06/08/2016 - 08:24
      +1

      instead of thinking of it as a surcharge maybe think of it as a 2.5℅ discount for using saving/cheque which costs the business nothing to process. It is and has been common practice for a long time in industries where the margins are tiny to pass on the cc costs to customers

    • tassieeagle on 26/08/2016 - 13:10
      +1

      I'm getting really sick of how hard it is to avoid these surcharges these days. It seems unless you either direct debit (not a fan), write a cheque (old school, often dodgy), or pay in cash (impossible online) you get stung.

      I thought the government had mandated these charges had to be reflective of the actual cost to businesses, I guess it's not in effect yet.

      Sorry op, your deal is good but not a fan of the surcharge, particularly for PayPal

  • Daabido on 05/08/2016 - 17:23
    +5

    Matrox G200 - now that brought back memories from more than 15 years ago when that was a badass video card.

    • [Deactivated] on 05/08/2016 - 17:39

      It a SoC version of the same chip design which is now built directly into the chipset, still utterly rubbish for anything but 2D display though.

      • magic8ballgag on 05/08/2016 - 17:46

        You mean I won't be able to run Fallout 4 on Ultra settings on this box? Damn.

        • [Deactivated] on 05/08/2016 - 17:51
          +6

          You'd be lucky to get a Youtube video of Fallout 4 on Ultra settings to play

        • magic8ballgag on 05/08/2016 - 18:05
          +9

          @The Land of Smeg:

          Well this is awkward..

        • [Deactivated] on 05/08/2016 - 18:11

          @tranqme: Did you change the Youtube quality settings to 1080p60 or 2160p?

        • magic8ballgag on 05/08/2016 - 18:23
          +1

          @The Land of Smeg:

          2160p (4k).

        • [Deactivated] on 05/08/2016 - 18:42

          @tranqme: nice

  • bdl on 05/08/2016 - 17:42

    Where's a good place to get the iLO Advanced key?

    • magic8ballgag on 05/08/2016 - 17:49

      eBay, Amazon etc.

    • quaddie on 05/08/2016 - 18:30
      +2

      Google "iLO Advanced Key" and there's some listed.

      • XeKToReX on 05/08/2016 - 21:21
        +2

        Stupidly easy haha

  • Saiya on 05/08/2016 - 17:55
    +1

    Any chance of a micro server deal OP?

    • Store RepWarehouse1 @ Warehouse1 on 05/08/2016 - 17:59
      +3

      We always keep our eye to the ground for any Microserver Deals, but the pricing on them is quite high currently.

      • masuta on 05/08/2016 - 18:29
        +6

        Ear to the ground.

        • Store RepWarehouse1 @ Warehouse1 on 05/08/2016 - 18:32
          +10

          haha, oh dear.. it has been a long week -_-

        • SydShopCat on 06/08/2016 - 20:28
          +2

          "Buffalo come."

  • mfauser on 05/08/2016 - 18:19
    +1

    Good for a Plex server? RAID options?

    • masuta on 05/08/2016 - 18:33

      Only has softraid unless you add the hardware raid card. You can upgrade the CPU if you find you need more grunt, I've dropped a xeon 1241v3 into both of mine.

      • shalala on 05/08/2016 - 22:11

        How is the noise? Is the memory also air ducted so that the fan speed remains low?

        • masuta on 06/08/2016 - 06:54
          +1

          The ram is not in the air duct. Fan speed is normally quite low, but its not silent. I'd say its quite for a server, but not HTPC quiet.

      • Drifta on 05/08/2016 - 23:53

        how much did the xeon and hardware raid card set you back?

        • masuta on 06/08/2016 - 07:24
          +1

          I spent more on the xeon than the initial server price! From memory about ~$400, but I wanted an ESXi build with hardware passthrough. HP has made ESXi very easy on this server as they have an install disk so you don't need to fiddle with drivers (if you have ever tried to install ESXi onto partially supported hardware you should know where i'm coming from!).

          I haven't added a hardware raid card and am just using the stock B120i controller at the moment. Its interface is a little clunky but seems stable. I don't see any reason why you couldn't add any RAID card to this build, no reason to have to stick with HP's offerings. Personally i've got a crossflashed IBM M1015 card sitting here that I will eventually try.

          Word of warning to people that are looking at these, they can be a little annoying to set up. You need to boot to HP's RAID management image if you want to change or manage the RAID, you need to boot to a different image to update BIOS. None of these are accessible in the bios as the server is missing HP's intelligent provisioning.

          A iLO advanced key is also really useful, but luckily (as mentioned above) these are available on ebay quite cheap.

        • nige0090 on 06/08/2016 - 17:41

          @masuta: Such as this one? A one year license for AU$31.55
          http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/HP-ILO-Advanced-582765-B21-/15175…

        • Drifta on 06/08/2016 - 19:04

          @masuta: ahh wow, surprised you've put in such an expensive (relatively) chipset onto this server, you're needs a way beyond mine :P
          I don't have a need for a ESXi config (yet), though I do want to run a couple of VMs on it for testing various applications.

          Good to hear that you reckon I can use any RAID card, I should have an older one lying around.

          Reading the other discussion, seems it is capable of powering 6 Drives, though it only has 4 bays? Is there space for the other 2 to sit inside the case in a makeshift rack?

          Ive got access to Server 2012 R2 so I was planning on just loading that up and create a nifty little home NAS / HTPC / VM Test environment

        • [Deactivated] on 06/08/2016 - 19:08

          @nige0090: This one doesn't expire after 1 year: http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/NEW-HP-ILO-ADVANCED-512485-B21-51…

        • masuta on 06/08/2016 - 20:16

          @nige0090: The one year license is only for support, the license should be life long.

        • [Deactivated] on 06/08/2016 - 21:08

          @masuta: As far as I can tell there are two SKUs, one for 1 year iLO and one for unlimited iLo with 1 year support.

        • masuta on 07/08/2016 - 08:22

          @The Land of Smeg:
          I went through this when i purchased my licenses. There is one sku with 1 year of support and upgrades and one with 3 years of support and upgrades. All of them give you unlimited iLO advance access to your server.

        • masuta on 07/08/2016 - 08:25
          +1

          @Drifta: As long as you don't want a dvd drive you can stick them in the 5.25" slots.

        • nige0090 on 07/08/2016 - 10:29

          @masuta:
          Thanks Masuta. This, and your explanation about support vs ilo license, is good info.
          Can you confirm which sku we should buy for the cheapest lifetime ilo license?
          Did you buy from ebay? $30/35?
          Thanks

        • masuta on 07/08/2016 - 15:05

          @nige0090: The seller I purchased from no longer has cheap keys. I paid around $30 AU per key (I did a best offer for 2 keys). Keys were emailed so I checked that they installed straight away and have not had any problems with them so far.

    • SeeKayDee on 05/08/2016 - 20:40

      No worries if you're direct streaming. Otherwise it should handle one 1080p or two 720p transcode streams comfortably.

  • [Deactivated] on 05/08/2016 - 18:43

    Would buy a second one plus a 3TB WD Red if you listed it at $99 again.

    • magic8ballgag on 05/08/2016 - 18:45
      +9

      I like getting stuff for peanuts also.

  • stellaaddicted on 05/08/2016 - 18:47
    +1

    Time to get a second one tomorrow… I really like my current one with winsvr2012.

    • expertreader on 05/08/2016 - 18:56

      What do you use it for?

      • magic8ballgag on 05/08/2016 - 19:01
        +2

        Porn, so much porn.

        • stellaaddicted on 05/08/2016 - 19:16
          +2

          Not anymore… after my first 2TB worth of porn, I got a bit tired of keeping them offline. nowadays online is better with more variety. :)

        • magic8ballgag on 05/08/2016 - 19:18

          @stellaaddicted:

          There's nothing like feeling like you're in the room with live-streamed porn.

        • shalala on 05/08/2016 - 22:08
          -2

          @stellaaddicted: Can you pm or recommend a few websites? Those Japanese (good ones) costs $50 a month which is crazy!

      • stellaaddicted on 05/08/2016 - 19:13
        +2

        120SSD for filesystem, 2 WD Red 4TB in Raid0 for files across my network (which works great for my win enviro) plus 1 WD Red 4TB that together with the 10GB Ram is great to run vms using vware workstation (NAS HDD so that I can access it from other clients). I can leave it running 24/7 without an issue and it is very very quiet compared to any other device that I've owned. Also, LAN1 for local network using one router shared across the network and LAN2 using a second router directly to the modem for some of the vms.

  • goingDHfast on 05/08/2016 - 19:13

    Any chance of a deal on a box capable of playing back HEVC 2160p video, OP?

    • Store RepWarehouse1 @ Warehouse1 on 05/08/2016 - 19:38
      +1

      Hi there,

      Sorry but this is a bit beyond my knowledge, our tech guys have gone home!

      If you can find me a part number of something that suits, happy to PM you a deal :)

      Warehouse1

  • [Deactivated] on 05/08/2016 - 19:20

    What brand is the hard drive? Is it an official HP drive for this system or just one thrown in with the deal? any onsite/free short term parking available to collect the order?

    • Store RepWarehouse1 @ Warehouse1 on 05/08/2016 - 19:23

      the hard drive comes installed inside the sealed HP box from the factory, it is a seagate 1TB desktop drive. (ST1000DM003)

      • [Deactivated] on 05/08/2016 - 19:32

        And how about parking to collect from your store?

        • Store RepWarehouse1 @ Warehouse1 on 05/08/2016 - 19:37
          +2

          there is Parking on Aurora lane and on Bourke St outside our shop, obviously it depends on who else is there at the time. Generally though, Docklands is quiet on a saturday as its a business hub and everyone is off for the weekend :)

  • zeckem on 05/08/2016 - 21:01

    Really good thanks OP

  • TomGum on 05/08/2016 - 21:23

    Is there any benefit with this compared to a stand alone pc?

    • [Deactivated] on 05/08/2016 - 21:31
      +1

      To use as what?

  • [Deactivated] on 05/08/2016 - 21:37

    Good price on the SSD

  • skyva on 05/08/2016 - 21:44

    I bought one last time and it is a good box. Just to save some time for purchasers, I have not been able to get the system to boot off anything other than port 1 of the std 6 sata connectors. Not a deal breaker but as ports 1-4 are tied together in the same bundle it can make it a little difficult to route.

    • atlas on 05/08/2016 - 23:44

      Mine boots perfectly off either port 5 or 6 - connected by a standalone sata cable direct to the ports on the mobo.

      Now configuring the hard disks - that is a whole other world of pain.

      • skyva on 06/08/2016 - 21:56

        Did you do anything to achieve this?

        Do you run in ahci mode or other? Every post I have seen mirrors my issues that populating a disk on a port lower than the boot disk causes failure, in ahci mode at least.

        I have a m1015 so I can run other configs, it would just be nice to have a ssd on port 5 and ports 1-4 running large 3.5" drives in the cage.

        • atlas on 07/08/2016 - 01:10

          Didn't change anything in the BIOS, so I don't think I'm running ahci. My HDD weren't recognized until I loaded the SSA image and configured each drive individually as it's own volume. I then set the boot volume, probably in the BIOS.

  • inertia8 on 05/08/2016 - 22:23

    Looking at building a home security box running blue iris with 6-8 cams. Anyone done something similar?

    Thinking this would need a cpu upgrade to handle those duties but it's tempting.. It's this or build a mATX based box with we purples…

    • jeffr on 05/08/2016 - 23:33
      +2

      hi I am running 5 cameras with Blue Iris on a AMD Phenom II X5 945 4Mb RAM 24/7 and have no issues. Am thinking to change to a low powered NUC

      • inertia8 on 06/08/2016 - 10:06

        Thanks, I'll have a think about it. Would still need to add drives etc but I think it'll do.

    • deivu on 06/08/2016 - 09:27
      +2

      Hi, I'm running Blue Iris with 5 HikVision cams. 25fps @ 1080p with direct to disk.
      it sits at 75% however any sort of viewing or RDP will make it jump to high 90s.
      I definitely think a CPU upgrade will benefit but it's done well for the low price.

      • inertia8 on 06/08/2016 - 10:04

        Thanks, I'm thinking therefore that with a cpu upgrade and running 6-8 at 15fps @1080 could work.

        What O/S are you running?

        • deivu on 06/08/2016 - 13:30

          Running Win 10 Pro. Had issues with Server 2012 and BI so canned it.

        • inertia8 on 07/08/2016 - 10:19

          @deivu:

          Thanks for the info, I've decided to pass and just build a mATX box, probably with the GB H81m MB. I'd need to replace CPU for 8 cams and I already have 8gb ram laying around and don't have use for the included 1tb drive.

          Thanks for the tip about WS2012 vs Win10Pro.

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