Recent price drop on this model.
It is a really good price for a branded WQHD monitor.
Starts tomorrow 9th of October - While Stocks Last !
Recent price drop on this model.
It is a really good price for a branded WQHD monitor.
Starts tomorrow 9th of October - While Stocks Last !
how do this compare to the U2713HMs? I've been wanting to upgrade from my 24 inchers…
Looks like this is using AUO AHVA panels, whereas dell are using LG panels. Quick review search says the color is off on this. I/O are just as good on both monitors.
If you're willing to fork out coins for the dell, then get it… warranty and calibration out of the box is probably the best.
If you just want dirt cheap for gaming, then get a korean PLS instead. Low chance of dead pixels and just overclock to 120hz just because "gaming monitor".
Agreed. While this is a great deal I do prefer spending a little extra money on Dell's. The colour reproduction and warranty on Dell monitors is amazingly good. Spent $500 on my U2413 and wouldn't have had it any other way. The colours on Dell monitors are phenomenally good (especially once you calibrate it with TFTCentral settings).
Looks like this is using AUO AHVA panels
Are you sure about that? I always thought IPS technology is completely different to the VA technology… in other words, if they claim that this is an IPS monitor when in fact it is using a VA panel then that should be classified as false advertising…
Please correct me if I'm wrong.
Nevermind… Someone down below proved this to be incorrect.
That's what I thought at first, but the VA is by name only "Advanced Hyper-Viewing Angle" and not VA as in Vertical Alignment.
There's also the Apple 27".
Crazy expensive and only a single mDP input, but man that H-IPS panel is beautiful.
Was close to buying one since it was the only monitor out there that had a non matte display. Indeed a steep price at over a grand plus no vesa mount and not a very flexible stand.
But then I said "(profanity) it, I can buy 3 korean panels for the same price if things go wrong". They all use the same LG panels anyway.
The Korean 27's are matte? I thought they were a semi gloss?
I ended up going a 2nd hand 27" iMac (same panel as ACD 27") in late 2010 rather than the Korean panels. At the time it wasn't that much more expensive as the Korean panels had started to go up in price when they became popular (0 dead pixel models were around $700).
I got a really good price on the 27" iMac and almost 4 years later I still use it 80% of the time that I'm on the computer (less than 150w power draw for the monitor at 100% and internals at low load), and 20% of the time I use it as a monitor for my gaming PC (gaming PC draws almost 400w on load just for the box). As there's no scaler on the iMac input - there's no input lag and audio is carried over the same mDP cable for a neat almost all in one package.
It also lets me render files on one and display switch to the free box so I don't use up resources and slow everything down. It's worked out really well for me.
At that time the Dell 27's were horrible. People were using solvents to remove the aggressive anti-glare coating (some people didn't mind it, others with decent vision can see how flat it was making the image, like a bad contact coating), complaining about the input lag, and the CFL back light was very power hungry + put out so much heat.
@krisspy: Hi Krisspy, can you please help me with info on the korean 27's, I am looking for cheap triple display for my driving simulator.
thanks in advance,
Slippy
@Slippy: what did you need to know?
Qnix or X-star are the popular ones now, they use samsung PLS panels, slightly different from the LG IPS panels used by Dell or Apple in that the colors are more saturated but can have black crush. They can be overclocked to 100+ hz, YMMV. Ebay is where you find them.
Other wise you can keep checking HERE see if he stocks up on the oc'able IPS monitors. Bought the logic board from him and can confirm it works on Crossover monitors from korea.
@c0balt:
For the 27" korean monitors, You can choose between matte and gloss. At least I could when I bought mine about 5 months ago.
@krisspy:
are qnix and x-star the same?
they're are very reasonably priced.
@whooah1979: 2 different companies, but they all outsource the same samsung pls panels. So the difference would be aesthetics, stand and inputs.
thankyou that wasperfect :D they are abit more than i was hoping hehe
The U2713HMs are just beautiful. I have four right in front of me.
Personally I would recommend against going for Dell, the warranty is terrible. Yes on paper they give you free swaps etc, but from my experience, they give you a defective one in exchange for the one you don't want. I thought Dell was good until I had gone through the experience myself. They swapped mine with one that had dead pixels in it, then with another one that comes with bonus back light bleed and I couldn't be bothered to swap again. Do not get Dell if the warranty is the only thing that's a 'plus' for you, because it isn't. YMMV.
Sorry. I wasn't going to comment but this is ridiculous. You're claiming the WARRANTY is bad because the REPLACEMENT you got wasn't up to standards? I think you need to get a grasp on the fact that the warranty is the process, not the product. It doesn't make the warranty bad. In fact it shows the opposite because they were willing to fix the situation.
And "the warranty process" is clearly a problem if they are sending defective units out.
You would then probably argue the product is the real problem but in the case of a high end product like this, repeated failures should not be expected and receiving a good unit would be an expected part of the warranty process.
i haven't dealt with dell myself, but from what i gather it's not a matter of repeated failures…it's that returns that don't meet the consumer's standard but technically work and pass a lower base standard (ie. if they have backlight bleed or an "acceptable" number of dead pixels), they will be sent out as replacement units.
ie. if 10 people return a monitor, they might just be sending those same 10 units around as replacements for each other until someone finds the unit acceptable (someone might return a unit for dead pixels, but might begrudgingly accept backlight bleed, or vice-versa), or the customer just gets fed up of the returns process.
from numerous accounts, this appears to be what Dell are doing.
@caprimulgus:
Right and that's the "warranty process" then.
If that's what they're doing on a fairly high end product then that's
1) sh!t
2) stupid since most consumers will expect better on something like this and keep returning them wasting Dell's money and reputation…
interested in peoples feedback who have this monitor?
Same price at Umart
I have this monitor. purchased it on release date for $499. can't believe the price drop! it is a great monitor. solid colours and the high res is amazing. highly recommend it.
should i upgrade from 3x 1080 to two of these?
thanks.
Only something you can answer. 3 x 1920 x 1080 is about 50% more pixels than one of these still.
You math is a little shonky, Shonky
3x1920x1080=6.22x10^6
2x2560x1440=7.37x10^6
So two of these has more by almost 20%.
@CptTerry:
True. I missed the "two" in words and I'd probably say no, but it's a personal thing. 20% isn't that much extra but might allow easier use.
I prefer to full screen windows often so 3 screens would be easier sometimes than resizing windows to share on one screen.
I upgraded from 2 x 24' 1080 monitors. best thing ive done.
Says 519 for me..
For me as well :(
+1 but the other prices at Umart et al are $399….
Same here :( Anyone know what is going on?
Perhaps it's because the deal starts tomorrow?
Note the dates under the tags "9 - 11 Oct"
edit: I did actually comment before the Store Rep did :P
@awoff1:
True but good form to say sale starts tomorrow. I see the tags more as a way to let OzB auto expire the deal.
Hi guys, sale starts tomorrow. Price will be updated tomorrow as well.
Do Benq offer pick up warranty on this model because otherwise you will be dealing with MSY?
The price starts tomorrow for those stores with stock - good luck with this.
$849.00 at Officeworks!!!!!!!
Thinking about a price match but then I read
Special Order Item
This item is ordered directly from the manufacturer, therefore not available for next available delivery day. Special Order items are not eligible for price matching.
Would you guys rather buy this or an overclockable Korean monitor? I was thinking of getting a Qnix/X-Star but since this is available locally (with a decent price and good brand as bonuses), I may have to reconsider. I'd lose out on the extra refresh rate but I'd get a better stand and displayport support. #firstworldproblems
edit: Also, do stores like PCCG/MSY accept returns for things like backlight bleeding/dead pixels? Are the odds of backlight bleeding/having dead pixels very low on big-brand monitors like BenQ's?
Korean. The issue with the original IPS panels (Yamakasi 2B's) were the lottery with dead pixels. Reports on the PLS versions show lower rates of these. Barebone is always better if you want to keep response times low ie. no scaler to slow things down.
Backlight bleeding is an issue with IPS panels, even dell has issues with them. Have to look into BenQ's returns policy whether they accept returns no questions asked or if they need 5 dead pixels before return.
Ah, thank you :) I found in a forum that the only perks these have over the Korean monitors are the build quality, warranty and extra USB ports.
Tempting but I can wait next year when Benq releases the monitor that uses AU Optronic's IPS-type (AHVA, not to be confused with VA panels) 144hz 1440p panel.
http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/news_archive/31.htm#144hz_ips
Yep, I'm waiting for these as well.
$399 at PLE as well in Perth, has it been this price for awhile?
well PLE or MSY - good company or rubbish - let me think about that for a
This price is really good. I've been taking a detailed look into this type of monitor (27", 1440p, IPS) for the past month.
I was tossing up between the
Dell U2713HM ~$575 On special
Asus PB278Q ~$578 normal
Benq BL2710PT ~519 normal
I ended up buying the Asus because it has better response times than the others and I'm absolutely loving it. I was going to buy a 2nd Asus next month when I get paid but will probably go buy one of these for my second monitor.
If games aren't your top priority jump on the Benq straight away especially at this excellent price.
There are a lot of good reviews and information at www.tftcentral.co.uk
Anyone that is considering the jump form 1080p to 1440p - do it! It's so much more enjoyable.
Will this be good to watch youtube video? I seldom play games but watch a lot of videos.
depends on the videos you watch, you'll get some benefit if videos are uploaded at 1440p (2560x1440). you'll also want to have a decent connection speed so that you can watch that resolution without excessive buffering. if you sit in front of your monitor to watch then you don't get a major benefit from the excellent viewing angles of IPS but if you like to move around or if your screen happens to also face a bed/couch then you can lie back and enjoy your videos without colors being distorted.
From personal experience Dell have absolutely beautiful displays. If you mostly watch videos then I highly recommend them, especially if low response times aren't an absolute requirement for you.
Perfectly fine for youtube videos.
What GPU are you using to run both monitors?
GTX 670 DCII
It runs a 27" 1440p and a 24 inch 1080p fine for photoshop, web browsing, excel, etc. but then when I try to play games on the 27" both monitors flicker every 3-5 seconds which gets very annoying. No flicker when playing games if I switch it to only output on the 27" monitor.
It isn't mentioned, so I assume they're 60hz panels?
Currently no IPS 1440p monitor officially supports 120hz without overclocking. So yes, 60hz.
Hoping to see lot's of these 2560x1440 monitors dropping in price. As small screens put in more pixels, the dpi on 1080 big monitors is feeling bad
Damn, when I first saw this I thought it was the bl3200pt.
Guess I'll keep waiting. So many choices for monitors atm!
i know this is IPS (and TN is probably better for gaming), but how is this monitor for gaming?
I'm interested to know this as well.
anyone know where to get a dual or quad monitor stand? i got one of these http://www.officeworks.com.au/shop/officeworks/office-additi… and the 3x 1080 are taking up to much desk space.
Try Warcom - http://www.warcom.com.au/shop/browse/monitor_stands/
check this out
http://xprice.com.au/search/page-1?key=Monitor mount&fromprice=50.00&sortby=undefined
http://xprice.com.au/search/page-1?key=Monitor%20mount&fromp…
the previous URL was a bit incorrect.
thanks.
Might be a stupid question, but has anyone tried an Xbone or PS4 on a 1440P monitor?
I know the 1080P signal will be upscaled and interpolated, so what I'm really asking is if the picture will be noticably blurry?
I'm considering getting a UHD monitor (1080P will scale evenly), but my laptop can't drive such a high res. Hence looking at 1440P monitors.
For PC productivity use - 1080p on 1440p looks like crap, don't do it. Web pages, text, documents and more look so soft and jaggy.
For movies, TV shows and other media it's fine.
For PC gaming it's acceptable, but 1440 looks so much better than 1080 on a 1440 display(depends on the game too).
For console gaming it may matter a bit for the titles that are capable of being pushed at 1080, but look at the ones that aren't native 1080 and how you found those to be displayed on a 1080p TV. It will be a similar change in quality when you put 1080p native games on a 1440p native monitor.
http://au.ign.com/wikis/xbox-one/PS4_vs._Xbox_One_Native_Res…
If you want your console to perform even poorer than normal, you can try 2k, but my advice is that if you are set on getting this monitor, change the monitor resolution to 1080p, some of the smaller games may work at higher res, but don't push your luck
A consoles performance isn't impacted by the output scaled resolution.
2K is very similar to 1080, it's much less than 1440p, so why bring up 2K?
http://artisandcp.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/2Kvs4K.jpg
http://stillmotionblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/Resolu…
Can these be OC'd to 120hz?
No, some monitors can be upped from 60 to 75, but that is not covered by warranty and can damage the panel
Only issue upgrading 2 x 24" IPS to 2 x 27" is that I might have to fork out more $$ to upgrade my gfx card too…
Yep. I came to this conclusion after buying the monitors first and testing it out.
My GTX 670 DCII can put out a 27 inch 1440p and a 24 inch 1080p. But then when I tyr to play games both monitors flicker every 3-5 seconds which gets very annoying. I'll be buyign a 2nd 27" 1440p monitor in the next month so need a new card.
My GPU is old and decent ones are dirt cheap.
Personally waiting for these to be priced. widescreen @1440 I think is ideal - could get me to drop my 2 27" displays.
http://www.zdnet.com/dell-teases-34-inch-ultrasharp-u3415w-c…
Tangential, but I'd expect someone at a tech website to know better than this:
But while the LG includes 7-watt speakers and Thunderbolt ports to connect them to Macs
Great deal and monitor. I bought this about 6 months ago. I previously had a 22in BenQ for many years and still going strong, so it was kind of an easy decision. I also like the frame rate increase in games using 144hz.
This is a 60hz monitor. What monitor are you talking about?
I think you're talking about the Benq XL2720Z. A 27" 1080p TN panel at 144hz.
If only it was posted earlier :( Just bought an Asus PB278Q last week..
screw it gonna pick one of these up, been wanting a dual monitor setup for my new system.
Haha - I did the exact same thing.
Did you get it from MSY as well? Was $579 when I got it. I still think its worth it though, the quality is amazing.
Yep, bought it from MSY last Thursday for $579. Excellent monitor.
MSY dont have a change of mind policy, you shoulda purchased it at Officeworks
So it is change of mind when a SSD drive dies 6 weeks after purchase?
Silly me I thought that when I lost all my data on a product that was supposed to store data that this would be considered a major failure, and that I would be entitled to a replacement or a refund as I chose.
That's what it says here https://www.accc.gov.au/consumers/consumer-rights-guarantees… , but hey wtf do I know.
Perhaps I should just accept the offered replacement when they finally get one, then when it frys I can go through this thrilling experience once again.
There are plenty of other suppliers selling the same product at the same price . no rush
http://xprice.com.au/search?key=BL2710PT&sortby=undefined
Wow, my dream monitor! Used to be $599 last I checked.
Sooooo tempting!
How does this monitor compare to the ASUS PB278Q? The BenQ is about $200 cheaper and I'm not really sure why.
G-sync
oh sorry, i misread PB as PG - please disreagrd my above comment (the PG278Q is the one with G-sync).
The Asus has 16.6 ms lag, the BenQ has around 25ms.
Full detailed reviews here:
http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/benq_bl2710pt.htm
'Lag is a little too high for serious gaming' for simplicity'…
Any other QHD 27" screens worth considering, at this price?
I'm looking for something to compliment my XL2420T, until I upgrade GPUs and go for something like a ROG Swift, later this year or early next.
bought this monitor today, but when I set the resolution to 1440p, everything on the monitor becomes blurry (using large character size does not help), the monitor is connected to ATI HD5450 card via DVI, is that because the card is not good enough to support 1440p? I also have a intel HD4000 card in PC, but looks like it can only support 1080p.
I don't know if it applies to you on DVI but for me on HDMI, I had to check to make sure my scaling is set to zero.
Open up the Catalyst Control Center -> My Digital Flat Panels -> Scaling Options: set it to 0%
EDIT: I don't have this monitor. I'm only answering because I've had blurry screen before and this was the solution for me.
thanks, I just checked, and the scaling was set to 0%
Yes it could be your GPU, I tried running it on my HD4000 and it was all blurry as you mentioned. Works fine on my HD7870 though.
looks like the GPU is weak, I actually have a HD6850 card, which is much more powerful, but now I only want to use a card with passive cooling, one I can find is ASUS GT 730 ($85), any other cards you can recommend?
found the problem: I used a single link DVI cable, after replace with the dual-link dvi cable that comes with the monitor, all good.
Picked up this monitor today, Gotta say it looks amazing! $399 for it is quite the steal :D
Is anyone with this monitor able to confirm whether or not it can achieve native resolution over HDMI?
only 1080p over HDMI, can achieve 1440p over DVI, using ATI HD5450 card
Also $399 at PC Case Gear - looks like an excellent deal - not much more than I paid for my Qnix out of Korea!
Native displayport is nice…