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4x AA D40A Sunwayman Torch, $55 AUD. Down from $77, Often as High as $100 @ Banggood

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First time posting a deal, so be nice… Yes, yet another torch, BUT this time with serious quality.

The dirt cheap no name or clone names like Tangsfire etc, are fine for what they are, I own several. But this deal is something else… this is a quality torch, at the cheapest Ive ever seen it offered. Normally these are between $80 and IIRC over $110 and at $80 they are a good deal well worth the money. But if you think a torch is just a torch then this isnt for you. But if you appreciate quality, if you appreciate workmanship, this is for you.

I just searched OxB and found the closest deal on OzB I could find to this deal, that deal (expired long ago) was for a Nitecore EA4 at just under %50 US (https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/91140). A good light too, but this light is regarded as a superior light by those same flashaholics mentioned in that deal. Cheapest I can find this for now is around $68 on Fleabay (with free postage), and $71 on Amazon (havent checked postage). I did see one for $62 on Fleabay, but they want $17 postage on top.

Link to a thorough review of the D40A and a comparo to its competitors including the Nitecore EA4 by one of those flashaholics I mentioned

http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?364639

Sunwayman site link for item specifics

http://www.sunwayman.com/html/products/201305/127.html

This is the best value for money multi AA torch available. As stated, it uses AA, not the more problematic Li ions. It uses 4 x AA alkaline or nimh (yep some of those Eneloops can have a home now). You might notice the light has a stippled reflector, this gives a stunning beam with no artifacts. You will not be disappointed in this light. If youve been waiting for an easy to use, bright, did I mention its bright?, quality torch, at a discount, this is the time. I highly recommend it.

If you look at the linked thread, make sure you notice the battery carrier quality to get an idea of what I mean by these being quality. The carrier isnt plastic, its not junk, its built properly. So is the rest of the light.

Cheers all.

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  • +2

    Hate to see this deal get deleted, because no type of affiliate out referral is allowed from a first time poster.
    It's a good price for a nice light and you obviously put a lot of effort into the post.

    • I see, thats the beef with it, 1st deal post. Pheww, I was beginning to think I couldnt read anymore. It is a good deal.

      Thanks for the info. I was worried for a minute when I saw the reports.

  • Powered by Eneloops ;-)

  • +2

    I have an EA4 so this is a very interesting post

  • Which light should I get cool or neutral

    • i prefer cool as it is brighter or at least appears that way
      neutral is better for keeping colours more accurate

  • Bought a NW one (I really hope they take such distinctions seriously). Thanks OP. This will probably be the standout example in my AA XM-L collection, which so far includes a NW Cyclone C88 (with modified battery holder for high current use), a NW XinTD X3 and a NW Starry Light SA-22 (improved CNQG edition with no disco modes).

    • +1

      They should have called that the .BLF special lol.
      And youre welcome.

    • My cyclone c88 is a ton brighter on lithium than it was on AA. Just a tip if you hadn't tried it.

      • +1

        Quality NiMH cells are definitely up to the task of powering an XM-L (and in particular keeping the C88's driver in regulated mode for best performance due to minimal voltage sag) but the standard battery carrier isn't (too much resistance in the springs/contacts). That's why I modified it. Now my C88 is every bit as bright on Eneloops as it is on 18650/26650 cells, albeit for not as long ;)

        • How did you modify your flashlights to remain bright on Eneloops ?

        • +4

          The particular flashlight in question comes with a 3xAA battery carrier that is almost exactly like this one: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Off-White-Battery-Holder-for-3-x-1-5…

          The problem is that they are not designed for high current use. The contact springs are probably the main problem as they are flimsy and twist into a tiny molded bracket sort of thing instead of being soldered on. So I soldered in better ones and added thin round copper plates to either end of the holder. I also bulked all the pathways up with a little additional solder as well. Some of it was probably overkill but a little overkill is the safest bet sometimes.

          After that the driver could get everything it needed from the batteries because there was much less resistance in the equation.

        • Thanks for sharing your knowledge :D

  • +1

    Besides being a bit heavy for a small torch and a bit big for a pocket, this is a fantastic torch.
    It has just about removed the need for any of my other torches. The low mode is super low and better than most, memory works well and turbo is brighter than my 6D modded Maglight and all of my single 18650 torches. The ability to use Eneloops also makes it super convenient.

  • I've been waiting for a deal on a D40A for a long time; got a bit excited and bought it without even signing up to banggood. :) Now I'm wondering if I should've gone for a CW version.

    • +2

      I like NW myself. CW appears brighter to our eyes, thers sciencecy stuff to explain why that is, I dont quite grasp it all. NW makes colour look more real, it has better cri (colour rendering index). So for example, if you were using it to choose between cutting the red wire or the orange wire, NW is the one you want if you dont want whatever youre disarming to go boom.

      • +2

        Although I've never done any proper testing, an equivalently bright equivalently collimated neutral white beam supposedly has better penetration in less than ideal atmospheric conditions (fog, mist, rain etc) due to its comparatively longer wavelength.

        But like you I just prefer something toward the warmer more natural end of the spectrum :)

        • +2

          Droplets are far far to large to affect the scattering of light. So has no effect on actual penetration. It has more to do with how we perceive blue(er) light.

          http://www.danielsternlighting.com/tech/lights/light_color/l…

        • Interesting. So at least some of the anecdotal reports about people being able to see things more clearly and/or from further away with warmer tints have some truth to them, but not for the reasons most often stated.

          Thanks for that :)

      • +1

        if you were using it to choose between cutting the red wire or the orange wire,

        Somehow I can't picture a person tasked with the incredibly dangerous and specialised job of diffusing explosives… sitting on OzBargain for hours and buying up cheap torches.

        • +2

          Then again a specialist like that might have even more time on their hands between jobs than someone who works at your local firehouse. In fact flashaholism is typically a whole lot worse amongst those who can actually justify the constant search for the "perfect" flashlight with an appeal to professional requirements (and perhaps even constantly evolving professional requirements) ;)

        • Possibly but I'll go out on a limb and say that real EOD technicians are not going to attempt diffusing stuff at night or in sub-optimal viewing conditions. Much less cutting any wires, most of the time they simply destroy IEDs with shaped charges as they're incredibly volatile to even handle.

          Most other occupations that require a selection of "tactical"-themed gear, like nerdy torches, with a focus on meeting MIL-SPEC or pseudo-MIL-SPEC criteria are standard-issued from select contractors that usually develop stuff specifically for military and police use, which is then proliferated to a lot of other high-risk industries. Not a whole lot of room for individualisation in those kinds of jobs, as standardisation ensures everyone's on the same level.

          I get your point though, there is a legitimate usefulness in having a choice in lighting temperatures.

        • +2

          You guys realise I was joking right. Real scenarios where wire colour might be important is under a car dash. But personally I have a much smaller torch for that.

          I could have gone with a power outage and choosing an outfit for night clubbing. How embarrassed would you be if you grabbed the wrong colour shirt? Id be mortified. :P

        • +3

          You guys realise I was joking right

          Sure, but Amar89 seems strangely dedicated to the notion of taking seriousness to new heights, which is somewhat amusing in and of itself :)

        • +2

          Sure, but Amar89 seems strangely dedicated to the notion of taking seriousness to new heights, which is somewhat amusing in and of itself :)

          Hahaha. Thanks. If we had signature fields on OzBargain, this would definitely be in mine.

      • I prefer the NW, but people seem to be happy with both versions so it makes it hard to pick one. As it turns out though, I actually ordered the CW, and now I'm not sure if I'm disappointed or not. :s

  • Great find thanks mate! My Lenser P7 has stopped working (might be water damage) so I might look into this model.

    Edit: And purchased! Thanks mate!

    • +7

      Lenser P7 has a lifetime warranty from the Zen Imports in West Ryde, Sydney - see their website for details.

      I contacted them for a replacement switch when mine was damaged from a leaking battery and they told me they do not sell spares, but would replace it under warranty. They didnt care that it was damaged by neglect or missuse. You don't even need an RMA - just package it well with a description of the fault and your contact details (no receipt required), and send it to address on their website and a brand new one is sent out within days !

      • Oh! I did not know about that, thanks for that mate!

    • I was delighted when my P7 stopped working.

  • +2

    Just for those thinking of this. More choice.

    Gearbest (Code GBFCPC) has the Fenix LD41 for $au52 and the Nitecore EA4 for $au58.

    Very tempted to get one of these three torches. Don't think I can convince the MFF that I really need all 3.

    • +2

      i'm looking for a 4AA torch with focusable lens. Does such a torch exist?

  • +2

    Two Maglite 3Ds, a CREE Q5 and now a Sunwayman D40A.

    I am moving up in the torch brotherhood.

  • How's this one better than the Nitecore ea4 then? I've already got the mh1c and mh2c, so I'm a bit biased towards Nitecore. However if this is significantly better then I'm up for one.

    • The interface.

      There was a debacle over the EA4 in regards to its button and Nitecore not standing behind their product, or at least there was a battle. That hasnt happened with Sunwayman as far as Im aware. You could google button problem and ea4.

      Sunwayman have a very respected name in the industry.

      Theres a thread in the OP which has much discussion on the D40A and some of its competitors.

    • http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?347951-NEW-Nitecore-EA4-Pioneer-(4*AA-860lm)&p=4132431&viewfull=1#post4132431

      That's what's wrong with nitecore (I posted that). They eventually changed the design of the ea4 not to have a melting button, but didn't give a crap about all the customers with original ea4 (with design defect).

  • Good price. What's Banggood like? Warranty?

    • +1

      Like all Chinese vendors Id say. Ive never had any trouble with them, but Ive never tried to make a claim 1 yr after buying something either. Theyve been around a while, Id guess theyve had many thousands of buyers from OzB so someone is sure to know.

      • -4

        Chinese people love foreigners and hate other Chinese.

        • +3

          Were they polled or did you speak to them all individually?

        • 95% of Chinese are the same.
          * I am Chinese

        • +4

          and 99.95% of statistics on the internet are made up

        • +1

          Must be a great country to live in with everyone hating everyone else. Sorry, 95%, not everyone. Was that PRC or Taiwan?

        • Lol yes I agree with Chinese hating other Chinese. They've brought it upon themselves. XD

  • I like the fact that the batteries have their own cage. They aren't scraped or scratched as you screw the base section of the torch in. Win.

    I don't like the Power button section. Is that located under a membrane? It looks like a potential cause of failure, just by looking at those pics.

    • Im not aware of any issues. Im pretty sure I would be if they were problematic. Thats the user interface, and its raved about as a positive trait. Ive not heard any complaints about it failing.

  • How brighter is this one comparing with Lenser P7?

    • +3

      The LL P7 puts out a maximum of 200 lumens (unless you've got the newer P7.2), and the D40A 980 lumens. But since lumens are a measure of total light output and not maximum beam intensity that doesn't tell the whole story. The P7 does after all have a beam focus mechanism that is somewhat unique in the sense that it outputs roughly the same total amount of light whether you're going for maximum flood or the tightest spot, which is not the case with cheaper zoomies. To put it another way, when in turbo mode it can create a hotspot that rivals the intensity of some of my more floody XM-L lights with standard reflectors that are in the 600-700 lumen range, albeit without all the spill.

      But if Sunwayman's numbers are anything to go by though, the P7 will get left behind in every respect. You'll have a noticeably brighter hotspot and a whole lot of flood/spill to go with it. In terms of total output it's just not even a serious comparison.

      Having said that however I love my LL T7 (which is essentially the same as the P7). It's always been one of my favourite lights and it will likely remain so. It's a great versatile piece of kit for those times when 200 lumens are more than enough, which to be perfectly honest is almost all the time for me.

  • At least when the apocalypse comes you will be able to see in the dark 'with quality'.

  • Where to put the coupon code when buying with paypal?

    • In checkout, theres a link on the right side, says something like "Have coupon code", click that. A box will appear.

  • Thanks

    • See post above.

      In checkout, theres a link on the right side, says something like "Have coupon code", click that. A box will appear.

  • +1

    Nooooooo … i dont need anymore torches!
    I better leave before I buy another one

  • +2

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwzjFq4T6No < gives an idea of illumination

  • +1

    Man this is really really bad… I just bought another torch. :(

  • +2

    I keep saying this is my last one but it never ends…

  • Sheesh… there is alot of different torches. Jetbeam looks nice.

  • 1 items will be shipped to you by Banggood.com.Expect ship in : Apr.18,2014 - Apr.21,2014

  • lol was reading through the old post (https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/91140)

    put in their coupon code and price comes to $53 delivered for the EA4 and the EA4W models

    COUPON CODE: PRICECONTROL

    EA4 Link: http://www.fasttech.com/product/1209201-nitecore-ea4
    EA4W Link: http://www.fasttech.com/product/1217800-nitecore-ea4w

    Nitecore EA4W Cree XM-L U2 HA-III 8-Mode 860-Lumen Waterproof LED Flashlight
    EA4W, XM-L U2
    SKU 1217800: In stock $69.03 $69.03

    less: ($16.03)

    FREE WORLDWIDE SHIPPING

    $53.00

    4/22/2014

    • +1

      That's in USD though.

      • +1

        sorry didn't realise - you are correct I had to go all the way to paypal before it said that it is in US dollars.

        • Added to the currency pointed out already, that particular EA4 is also XML, not XML2. Not to be confused with U2 or T6, thats a different number. XML2 is the 2nd generation of XML emitter, a more efficient XML. More light, less current draw. Longer runtimes, and/or more output, less heat… it works out to about 50 metres less throw, and about 4000 less lux (lux, not lumens) at 1 metre in these lights.

  • +2

    $55 is too much for me.
    I'll have to tape 4 of the Cree's together.

    • +1

      My absolute favourite flashlight is a Zebralight SC600. Aside from the wonderful build quality and compactness, it has a spectacularly awesome user interface for accessing and programming different modes. It's not just a flashlight, it's a gadget. And I love gadgets. And since I love flashlights too it's basically a technogasm.

      The D40A is the same sort of thing. That's why $55 isn't too much for me in this case, even though I usually don't like spending that much on new flashlights.

      • And that reminds me. My flashoholism was in check for a while there but all that enthusiasm I just expressed above has made it clear to me that the heart of the beast is still beating.

        Thanks Tuba. I'll probably be posting regularly at BLF again soon, again. Again.

        :/

  • http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?364639-Sunwayman-D40A-(XM-L2-4xAA)-Review-RUNTIMES-BEAMSHOTS-VIDEO-more&p=4257683&viewfull=1#post4257683

    Comparison of the two LED tints available.

    Thanks for the heads up!

  • Appears sold out :(

  • Sold 146 units now out of stock

  • Just purchased one then :)

  • Still active. Got one just now.

    • And fixed…

  • I really like flashlight!

  • Thanks! great deal

  • Looks like they might be running low on neutral white versions. The page was defaulting to the selection of "Natural white" yesterday, but today it's defaulting to "Cool white". That was my experience anyway.

  • Thanks! Just bought one.

    Will compliment my larger LED flashlights nicely.

  • CW or NW, what do you reckon?

    • I went NW as everything else I have is CW, so thought I'd get something different.

      • Hmm,i have neither, so don't know…

  • I dont understand this expensive torch thing … maybe im in the wrong business. But overall i avoid using torches as they kill your night vission for a few minutes, when camping etc. What do you guys iluminate with these torches appart from the inside of the kitchen drawer?

    • Any torch I would take camping/hiking would have at least one nicely subdued low mode that can be activated directly. It would also be compatible for use with a decent diffuser so it could take on lantern duty if desired or required. The D40A is such a torch.

      Not that I don't have a torch like that already. I have more than one in fact. Practical considerations aside, quality torches are just enjoyable to own for those that appreciate them. Cheap ones that punch well above their weight are too. And if there's a stupidly bright mode mixed in there with everything else, well, that's just a whole lot of fun.

      • Link to decent diffuser for those of us noobs who bought the d40a?

        any other accessories you recommend for this torch?

        cheers in advance.

        • +2

          Any that fit a 40mm head. Some cover a range something like 38-43mm.

          No idea what these are like…
          http://www.fasttech.com/products/0/10003970/1325112-nitecore…
          http://www.fasttech.com/products/0/10001948/1347101-beam-lig…

          The dearer one makes more sense to me. Likely a better fit. The shape may do a better job with dispersing light too. But Im just guessing.

          It comes with a holster apparently, a lanyard and spare o ring. Eneloops and a decent charger (Accupower iq328, or panasonic 392 which is much cheaper but less features), or if you dont want the hassle theres the Bg W deal on Alkaline AAs. Woolies and Coles had deals too, W and Woolies had Energizer while Coles had Duracell. Not sure whats still running but they were listed here in the last few days, around 1/2 price for packs of 8 and ?12? or something.

          Panasonic charger
          http://www.fasttech.com/product/1136300-authentic-panasonic-…

          The rest you can find yourself… :P

        • yeah, i've seen those…i'm interested in what a "decent" diffuser is. (i'm assuming some diffusers don't work as well as others…in my brief look, it appears the soft silicone ones tend to allow more of the beam through than harder white plastic ones)

          and perhaps a wand/knob style diffuser attachment for lighting a room (like a candle) and a lens type diffuser for turning it into a flood? (i saw that people use gun scope covers as diffuser lens attachments, putting the diffuser in the lid, so you can switch between flood and throw at the flick of the cap…looks pretty cool!)

          have eneloops and maha charger already…(this is ozbargain!) ;)

        • The top diffuser I listed is Nitecore so should be decent quality as far as its type is concerned. As for which type is best I have no idea as I dont use them myself. Im told greaseproof paper and a rubber band works too. I do have a link to the flip up one if you want it. Again at FT, and Nitecore brand.

          http://www.fasttech.com/product/1325113-nitecore-nfd-40-40mm…

          Its design suggests youd narrow the beam angle due to the extra side length (deeper bezel essentially). The wand type would not.

        • caprimulgus wrote:

          i'm interested in what a "decent" diffuser is.

          For the record when I said "decent" I merely meant one that fits properly and was made with this caliber of flashlight in mind, as opposed to some cheap piece of nonsense made with whatever random plastic formulae some random Chinese manufacturer decided was cheapest to use at the time. Maybe the latter option would turn out just fine, but like Tuba I would recommend the one designed for the EA4 which is a similar flashlight, and is a known quantity in terms of its suitability for use with the D40A.

          i'm assuming some diffusers don't work as well as others…in my brief look, it appears the soft silicone ones tend to allow more of the beam through than harder white plastic ones

          I'm not sure if even the most extreme cases of flashaholism have resulted in diffuser output comparisons involving integrating spheres and light meters, but you never know!

        • ah cool, cheers guys. (i just wasn't sure if there was more to it!)

          have been looking into diffusers for ea4/d40a, so will keep looking around…hopefully find the metered diffuser output comparisons! :)

        • I'm not sure if even the most extreme cases of flashaholism have resulted in diffuser output comparisons involving integrating spheres and light meters, but you never know!

          I think the biggest obstacle would be finding out exactly what each one is made of. Given even the known model of light is unreliable in componentry. Take the hd2010, some have good drivers pulling 2.5-3 amps into xml. While others are barely pulling 1.5amps with crap drivers. From seller to seller, and even within a single seller, it changes without notice. So even after finding one of desirable material, isnt guaranteed with Chinese makers. As you said, its pretty random what crap they will make them from.

          Brandnames like Nitecore are the closest thing you have to an 'assurance' of quality.

          But you never know. The 'holics are smart cookies. Its likely someone already know exactly what each one is made from by smell lol.

  • just bought one…i bought the cool one.
    to be honest…im not into any flash/torch at all. but the thing is i dont have one and as a man i know it is one of the essential tools that a man has to have in his car.
    hopefully, this torch will be a good one for me when my car broke down at night in the middle of nowhere in WA here or when i want to install amplifier/subs woofer on my car.
    Personally, i think $55 is a lil bit too expensive just for a torch.
    but the thing is im a kind of a man who want to save money, time and frustration although i have to admit sometime im a tight arse as well.
    so when i did a quick google for this item…im a lil bit impress with the specs
    900+ lumens, runs on 4 AA battery, IPX8, etc. again hopefully, i wont be disappointed with this one.

    • +1

      Worst-Case Shopping: http://xkcd.com/909/

      Hehe

    • You might want to look into lithium primaries, not li ion rechargeables, the ones sold from Woolies etc. They are the right voltage (1.5v, AA size).

      Either that or make sure you cycle freshly charged Eneloops into it yearly. Batteries lose power quicker in temps above 25C. Cars get way hotter than that especially in Wait Awhile. Alkaline are more prone to leak in heat and high drain. A cheap torch who cares, this one, Id be more picky.

      The primary lithiums are good though and tests show them to stand the heat best, just a little expensive normally. However Big W, according to a post here a few days ago, has specials on them now. Might be wise to get in on that.

      https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/141155
      Expires today it seems, so better be quick then… EDIT: maybe they will still be on sale tomorrow. Appears to be in store only, despite the site saying online only… and they are not open now, at least not where I live.

      • +1

        Good point about conventional primaries and car-cabin-kept torches, etc.
        For that reason and others, I tend to go out of my way - inconvenient though it is sometimes - to keep or transfer as many gadgets to the boot - and away from a potential 70/80° cabin oven.
        Leaking batteries in torches, and gadgets otherwise not up to being toasted, aren't much fun.

        General caution about using lithium/iron disulphide batts like Energiser lithiums:
        May or not be the case with the driver/LED combo in the DA40, but particularly when in multiple series, not all alkaline-happy devices - various types - are necessarily going to be able to cope with the unloaded voltage on offer from AA lithium primaries. Can be very near 2 volts.

        I bought a pair of lithium/iron AA's (not Energisers) that had a gloss voltage of 2.1 - that's a full 2V up on new alkalines, referenced to a series of four.

        • Interesting point, I just reaqd up on it and you are right. Its voltage range is 3-6v. Ive read that it will run with primary lithium, but wont go into turbo mode as an over voltage protection.

          "The strange thing is that it doesn't seem to like L91's (Lithium equiv. of alkaline AA). The red low voltage LED kicked-in immediately and the light wouldn't stay in turbo. Although these cells are also 1.5V nominal, perhaps it detects that the resting voltage (1.86V ea so total of 7.44V) is out of bounds."

  • Congratulations, your [my] Banggood order has been shipped!

    Now, will it be 7 days, or an eternity?

    • As it turns out, it arrived today. Impressive. I doubt many (if any) are still checking back here so I might just be talking to the digital void, but it's a great light. I love it.

      • thanks for the update

  • This discount code does not work for me

    • still works for me…

      in fact, you just made me order another!

      • I must be plain unlucky - either that or it is the iPad. Might have another go from work tomorrow

  • +1

    For all those that ordered a Cool White one they said they received stock today when I asked them via live chat.

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