Don't think I've ever seen these that cheap before.
You can look up massive long topics from Whirlpool or OCN for further details on tweaks and what not etc.
Shipping is usually about 3 days express from South Korea.
Seller is green-sum, quite well known.
Yeah, but that's clearly covered by his warranty.
If you have less than 5 you've just paid $455 for nothing. I've been caught with bright red pixels before and it's not fun (not on a yamakasi/catleap, but on a laptop).
The fact it was sent to you with that many defective pixels clearly means "all of our monitors get tested before they are shipped out" is a lie.
If you have less than 5 you've just paid $455 for nothing.
Thats one-in-a-million pixels faulty at most. Is it really so bad?
I never go looking for bad pixels when I buy a TV or monitor, because once you know its there, you keep seeing it.
I'm using 3-4 year old LCD monitors at the moment and have zero dead pixels, pretty poor if I was to buy and it came with them.
I never go looking for bad pixels when I buy a TV or monitor, because once you know its there, you keep seeing it.
Easy fix: vaseline over (non-/prescription) glasses. Makes text look smoother and obviates high-ppi screens too.
If it's bright red, yes, it's BAD.
I opted to rub it to death with my finger leaving me with a permanent fingerprint-like dark smudge on my screen. That solution was MUCH better than a bright red pixel. It's a semi-permanent solution, if I was to clean my screen it'd come back, but be relatively easy to rub out again.
You take the risk of receiving the few dead pixels when purchasing these monitors. There are other options of paying slightly more to guarantee that you will receive a monitor with no dead pixels.
I'm pretty sure the buyer is responsible for return shipping costs, which would have been a decent amount, as it is a large monitor being shipped back to South Korea.
Good sellers however will generally reimburse you the shipping costs. It was also all done on the sellers end, I just had to give the box to the courier who picked it up from my house instead of calling/finding a courier to send it back.
Absolutely agree that a guarantee costs money. That's why Dell's cost more.
Just saying this has a poor guarantee (1 central or 5 dead pixels on the edge dead pixels is pretty hard to hit) and no quality control, despite their claims.
Being cheaper, it's a risk. Personally I would be fuming to spend $455 and have dead pixels, so I'd pay for a monitor with a guarantee.
Trying to find some reviews of the 301, I want to get rid of my Dell u3011 it doesn't get used enough.
Why?
Second hand value of the dell is not much more than the cost of a new yamakasi. And then you have the risk of dead pixels etc. It's just not worth it.
Plus the dell is still a good monitor, that's like saying i'll trade my 3 year old bimmer for a new hyundai…
Yamaha + Kawasaki = Yamakasi
not sure i would buy this over the u3011.
reason being that the u3011 has more connections than you could poke a stick at.
This is less than half the price of a U3011.
i know, but when your desk real estate is exceeding $1k/sqm, i wonder if it im better off having the dell to handle my other devices that may use the screen.
Buy a Dell U2713HM, imo the extra height on the 1600p monitor is not worth ~$900
This is 30" the Dell you mention is only 27". Obviously people in the 30" monitor market will notice the difference ;)
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Official-Dealer-YAMAKASI-301-SPAR…
When I look it up on ebay.com.au it's $519. Any reason it works out less when using ebay.com?
currency?
Got this same panel model for shimian .
Hasn't missed a beat in 2-3years
fantastic.
got it for about 285$ delivered
prices have gone up since its become popular haha
I got a 27" model and same with me, hasn't skipped a beat. The stand is a bit weak but for the price these screens are unbeatable.
I read this as Yamaha-Kawasaki TV lol
If I say it, I get negged, if someone else does, they get up voted, jerks lol
jv is that you?
From the Whirlpol thead, another reputable seller has matched the price
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-30-Yamakasi-301-Sparta-2560x1600… (ebay.com link)
http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=2173172&p…
perfect pixel seems pretty good price IMO ~$479 AUD
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-30-Perfect-Pixel-Yamakasi-301-Sp…
guarantees a maximum of 1 dead pixel
Really good price. Not sure I'd want a 16:10 nowadays when you'll get blacks bars on videos and less fov on games. Less scrolling on web pages though.
How would this compare to one of those similarly-priced 39" 4K TVs on Amazon? (cost a bit more with shipping)
one runs 60hz native the other is 30hz. I wouldn't recommend that seiki right now - lack of content and horrible refresh rate (even for normal browsing)
I think some people aren't happy with their colour replication either
The 30Hz is the limitation of DVI/HDMI at 4K.
But they will also do the same resolution as this monitor (half the pixels) at 60Hz. Though I suppose it does not look as good as native res for text.
No 32"?
Seems too good to be true.
Does anyone know if this has a zero pixel warranty and dust free?
What's the difference between this and the catleap 2b?
I don't think any of the korean monitors with glass in front are glued, so there might be a chance of dust getting in sooner or later.
2B is a 27" 1440p with an overclockeable pcb
Tempered glass models have a glass glued on but because they are not assembled in a dust free environment, most have dust under the glass
How do these compare to the Crossover monitors?
nothing major, both of them use the same panels
What is the smallest monitor you can get with this resolution? I'm quite disappointed you can't get high pixel density monitors for desktops.
I'm quite disappointed you can't get high pixel density monitors for desktops.
23.8" display with a 3840 x 2160 resolution
Can I get some details? It's not an Apple monitor is it?
Here's the link http://accessories.ap.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=au&c… It is expensive though
Wow, that's one badass monitor!
Didn't realise Dell released that.
I like it.. but does Dell make something cheaper with let's say a 2k resolution?
I'm quite disappointed you can't get high pixel density monitors for desktops.
If you want density, DIY a retina ipad display with this driver.
Hmm. You beg to differ with a $1500 monitor. Are there any affordable ones? Let's say 2k res at 24" or under? By retina I mean comparable to Macbook Pro, not say iPad mini or iPhone.
What I really want is a 20" screen with 2560 x 1440 (or 1600). At 20" though, I could accept 1080p or 1200p also. Is there such a thing?
Monitors have long been split between gamers and professionals, there was never a need for pixel density. Demand was either in fast tn panels or accurate color reproduction IPS.
Keep in mind the typical viewing distance of monitors compared to tablets/laptops, anything is "retina" at a certain distance.
I think both gamers and professionals could do with higher resolution. If desk space is an issue, you don't want too big a monitor. If gamers can get higher res for the same physical size, their games will look better also.
If a pro already has a big screen, getting a higher res on that screen will let them see higher MP photos on the screen without needing to scroll or zoom out (which drops pixels).
If gamers can get higher res for the same physical size, their games will look better also.
Theoretically, yes, true, but this doesn't actually matter. Reasonably priced GPUs aren't powerful enough to produce all the visual effects you get with the latest game engines on high/ultra settings (stuff like fancy shaders, particle effects, hi-res textures, etc) at ultra high res yet.
So if you were stuck with a 4K display you'd either have to run at a lower, non-native res, turn all the visual settings down to low (which looks even worse), or spend $3000 on a top-shelf multi-gpu setup.
plenty of laptops running much smaller screens have 1080p display, also 20" 1080p monitors exist eg LG Flatron 20EN43T 20" LED 16:9 Monitor Dual Display Full HD 1080p. Dell said they will bring out a much cheaper 28" monitor this year also at 3840 x 2160 but with much slower refresh rate.
That is interesting. Could you tell me what type of panel is used in the 20EN43T? I tried to find info about it but LG is not revealing what it is. I only want s-IPS, no TN. Don't even want e-IPS.
Just bought this (due to arrive this morning). $549 for the perfect pixel one.
Replacing the Yamakasi 300 Leonadis which has been faulty since I baught it (the DVI socket is buggy, screen comes up with lit up black, instead of actual signal from computer .. tried many dvi cables)
The picture on the Leonadis was amazing so lets hope this one is equally good. If so this is a very good monitor.
The monitor arrived today. It was from greensum, sent it Tuesday and would have been here on Thursday if the DHL delivery guy wasn't incompetent. So very fast delivery.
The screen has no dead pixels (I did buy the Perfect Pixel one). Couple of not so great pics.
https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/15603…
https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/15606…
Only thing is the stand .. cant go up (or down I guess). Its fixed at that low state.
Not sure if the stand is height adjustable, but if it is, try pressing the button on the back to unlock it, and whilst keeping the button pressed, move the panel up. Many height adjustable stands use this method (Dell, hp at least).
Of course, if the stand isn't height adjustable, then you'll need some yellow pages to adjust the height.
Love my current catleaps, awesome monitors :)
Stay away from this! you will get dead pixels, even "perfect pixel" is not dead pixel free, read the fine print, may as well purchase a 27" 1440p for the same price and peace of mind, dont make compromises.
Also you'll need at the very least an r9 290 to play demanding games @1440p with average of 60 frames, so if youre going that route do not lie to yourself and make compromise for a couple dead pixels. At 1600p your graphics card will struggle to play at that resolution but you can always drop it down in options.
Meh.
1) Even my ~2 year old work laptop was able to play Skyrim at 1600p with relatively high detail settings.
2) I've bought 2 monitors from Korea, neither with any 'dead pixel' guarantee, both have had no dead pixels, one had a shitty power supply which they replaced promptly for free.
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Luck of the draw, either that or your vision is severely impaired in which case 720p would be suffice, a friend of mine purchased a 1440p monitor and got 10 bright pixels, they use rejected panels from big companies
Just nitpicking abit… when you said you can play skyrim on relatively high detail… what do you mean exactly?
whats the fps and your settings… from GPU reviews, not even some of the higher end cards can push more then 40-50fps on 1600 for most games. I'm really surprised that your laptop can do it…
EDIT:
I should point out that i mean intensive games, e.g. Crysis 3, BF4 etc…
a 280x can't play BF4 in Ultra @ 1440p, average FPS is around 40, and thats the gigabyte, overclocked too. 1600p would be even worse lol
TBH, i'd consider that a mid range card because if memory serves me, 280x is rebranded 7970… which is a last gen top tier card.
290 and 290x should be able to do 50-60 for 1440 but with an additional roughly half a million pixels… performance should suffer a bit.
That's why i'm skeptical a mobile GPU can push 1600 with playable frames… and not 12fps…
Yeah, mobile GPU definitely won't be able to play on very high at native resolution (that's what Chroma forgot to mention).
You never know, he could have been playing on 800x600 reso on very high detail settings! :-p
On a side note, I agree that the 280x is rebranded model of 7970. I'm currently running a 7970 and it was capable of doing BL2 eyefinity on 7680 x 2560 with medium settings (AA off).
FPS was hovering about 40-50 IIRC, definitely playable.
My HIS 6850 can play battlefield 4 in Ultra @ 1440p…
Wow, i have to ask again, what are the fps… whilst its playable to you, it might not be for others. If you are getting 24 -30 fps it is playable but the mouse lags and the stuttering will put you off it.
1) Don't lie and mislead ozbargain users, that craptop of yours can't even handle battlefield bad company 2 on high settings @ 1024x768, average of 19 fps, yet you claim you can run skyrim on relatively high settings @ 1600p?
Source: http://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-Radeon-HD-6470M.43075.0.htm…
2) Did you purchase a dud monitor? Are you still bitter over your dead pixel ridden monitors that you wish the same grief and disappointment on others?
These monitors have issues, you get what you pay for, if you're looking to purchase a monitor for gaming stick to 1080p unless you have a $600 + graphics card in which case avoid these rejected panel monitors and pay for a quality monitor, don't waste your money, if it's too good to be true, then it usually is.
Yeah, "perfect pixel" can still have 1 dud pixel. Yeesh.
I believe the standard is max
1 in the center
5 in the side areas
So if you are unlucky, for the "perfect pixel" you can have up to 6 dead pixels
Just to justify your arguement for a neg:
Are you able to provide a link to a similar screen e.g. 30" 2560x1600 IPS Screen for approximatly the same price which has a 0 dead pixel policy?
It's a crap deal is why I negged, everyone should stay away from these dodgy korean monitors, theyre rejected panels, lol @ 0 dead pixels hahaha
TBH, whilst i agree with your mention of a need for a top tier card, having a few dead pixels on a 30" screen isn't very noticable.
I used my mates Catleap 2B for a week or so to test it whilst he was away and whilst there was about 11 stuck pixels. It took me a couple of days to find them, i only found them when i was waiting for the game to load and thought it was a speck of dust.
Unless you have eagle vision or superhuman sight, up to 11 tiny specks of dust should be unnoticeable unless you have it in the middle.
I'm curious whether donkeydoc has actually physically used one of these monitors and seen the dead pixils/backlight bleeding.
In fact, I wonder if he's used any monitor above 1080p?
Just a general query to see where you stand as a reviewer :).
I'm using a 27 inch monitor @ 1080p, I use it for gaming and have a HD7970 msi twin frozr iii. It really depends what you will use the monitor for, definitely won't be playing games at that high resolution with ultra settings, personally don't see the need for more than 1080p, each to their own, but if you're going to spend $500 on a monitor you don't want any bright/dead pixels, it will annoy the hell out of you lol
My 7970 chugs along current games between 50-60fps, all ultra @1440p no AA
Definitely not Battlefield 4, what games are you playing? Also no AA = rough edges, not a great look.
Anything looks horrible at 1080 on 27". 1440p is totally different, you dont need aa on. Bf4 does dip more than others, but cod/crysis sits around 52 even spikes higher causing tears. I dont need AA, it makes little to no difference hence extra grunt for me.
Agree, 27" with 1080p is horrible… probably the worst experience I've had.
24" is probably the highest you'll go with 1080p.
27" deserves justice, 1440p minimum! hahaha, that's my opinion though.
Also agree that you don't need AA on 27" 1440p. Image quality / sharpness is still top notch.
Loving 1440p, and can't look at 1080p the same.
i'm surprised these are not cheaper.
They would save so much in production cost if they did not have to scrap 100% of monitors with 1 dead pixel like dell suppliers have to.
These have been heaps cheaper, granted they've appreciated in value the last couple years. I picked mine up in Nov 2012 for around $331 AUD.
Really? For the 30" one? I'm guessing you meant the 27"
Nice to see a 16:10 aspect ratio.
I picked up a Crossover 30Q5 about a year ago, super happy with it. Good to see the Korean monitors are starting to drop in price as I have been looking at getting a 2nd. Would not hesitate to get another one (even at the risk of it being a dud).
For those interested in the monitor, here's a discussion thread regarding this sale.
http://slickdeals.net/f/6632152-yamakasi-301-sparta-30-s-ips…
Has some good info in there if you're keen to read up on the Yamakasi 300 and 301 model.
I'm considering grabbing two of these…. but just recently decided to grab a U2713HM from the latest Dell 30% off deal >.<.
The U2713HM is a great monitor… how do i know… i'm using mine and i love it =)
I agree, I've used 2x U2713HM with 1x U2711 in eyefinity and was quite an awesome experience.
Eying this mainly for desktop space.
Oh, hows the color with the u2711 compared to the u2713hm?
I read that the u2711 has a really aggressive AG coating that kills the colour =/
The AG coating is definitely more prominent than the U2713HM.
But when you have 3x27" monitors, you're not really sitting close to the monitors anymore.
I was sitting maybe about a meter away from the middle monitor (can't quite remember).
I didn't notice much difference with the colour. I played Diablo 3 and BL2 on eyefinity, and there wasn't any obvious signs of different levels of colouring.
Anyways, having used the U2711 for such a long time (maybe 2 years now), AG coating doesn't bother you anymore. You become immune to crazy levels of AG coating! haha.
Then again, I seen some U2711 with the AG coating removed and the colour/sharpness looks amazing. I would say the AG coating definitely makes it look more 'hazy', but still great to look at.
lol iono if its because of the AG coating but my u2713hm does annoy me in that white looks yellow-ish. Currently using the standard settings tho, didnt tune it
http://gizmodo.com/you-might-actually-be-able-to-afford-a-4k…
Dell and others have 4k monitors for less than $700 later this month. I know that's not $455 but if you're gonna lay down $455 for a monitor a few extra might be worth the extra pixels. I know i'm waiting for dells new ultrasharp 4k
Dell P2815Q is the model BTW release Jan 23rd worldwide
Would that be in USD though? Interesting post, will keep an eye out for the monitor when it releases.
The 'sub 1k' 4K monitor is still at 30fps on UHD, plus it's a TN panel. The seiki might even be a better buy.
If you want 4k, you might aswell wait for gsync drivers or normal drivers that stitch or can run with single inputs @60fps.
I see no reason to buy a catleap these days when Kogan has a superior product at a better price…
Kogan's has a much better stand (pivot, height, rotate, tilt) along with real inputs (DVI-D, HDMI, Displayport)
http://www.kogan.com/au/buy/kogan-27-cinema-display-2560x144…
Don't get me wrong, catleaps were great (I have three on my main rig), but there is much better. (I think the Dell is on 30% special now also).
200+20 Brightness. As opposed to almost double that in this and other monitors. The only reason I didnt buy that one.
They all use the same panels, the backlighting on the kogan is no different to the catleaps. User reports on whirlpool confirmed this.
Anyone who purchased this received the monitor yet? If so how is it?
I've got a 27" model and its worked great for around 3 years now. no complaints
Ordered of Green-Sum before great customer service.
I received a monitor with 15+ dead pixels. He/she paid for a courier to pick up the monitor and gave me the option for a full refund/exchange.