Saw these on clearance in Kmart Bundaberg today.
Approx 30 left.
(Maybe others stores?)
$2 for Red or Pink (Boy/Girl) bike Essentials Kit.
Includes:
-Sports bottle with holder.
-Bike pump with holder.
-Bike lock.
Great deal to Pimp the Tackerz Ridez!
Cheaper than a Cheese Burger at Maccas!
I saw them too and if I had a child that was riding a bike I would of purchased one.
A neg for K-Mart sexism, wtf has colour got to do with gender. If a boy likes pink why should he have to buy a pack for girls, or why should a girl who prefers red be told it is for boys?
Why neg the poster? Not even sense.
I guess this COULD be classified as "Major Issues with Retailer"? eh
http://www.ozbargain.com.au/wiki/help:voting_guidelines
Lol interesting. Hardly a major issue though haha :)
Hardly a major issue though
It is if they discriminate based on gender…
exactly
sad it even needs explaining in the 21st century
sadder we are teaching it so young
I negged the ITEM, the DEAL, not the poster.
Dude, if you have a problem with Kmart then contact them directly, your neg has nothing to do with whether this is a bargain or not.
Or just buy whatever one u want and take it out of the packet. Problem solved.
Go spend your time outside a maternity ward protesting to all the proud new parents that have taken part in gender colour pairing.
Or just buy whatever one u want and take it out of the packet.
They might want to buy it as a gift…
And in the rare case that you are looking for a $2 gift for a young girl who's parents have an issue with pink being socially recognised as a feminine colour, I would say this deal might not be for you.
oooh, intelligent discussion. Maybe because talking on a diverse forum about it might be just a bit more productive.
There are REAL issues with this sort of discrimination indoctrination.
I was actually thinking about the kid being with them myself. Seeing that red is for boys and pink is for girls. Having known quite a lot of intersex etc people, this stuff actually, really does harm. To the kids, not some parents sensibilities.
Negging a deal has to do with the deal, ANY major issue with the qualities of the item or store are valid. In the 21st century casual sexual discrimination shouldn't be just accepted.
It doesn't just mean that it is not a bargain
Maybe you're right. Why aren't there urinals in female toilets? It's the 21st century, women and girls should pee how ever they like in public toilets.
That is about he flimsiest straw man I have EVER come across.
Are you saying that Men have physiologically different mouths and need different drinking bottles as they do different toilet facilities
What does labelling this product 'for [gender]' add to the product, other than limit it's market and emasculate boys who like pink etc? Or is it cos this is 'straya and it serves the dirty f*g right?
Has a single one of you actually bothered to do ANY research on what you are saying, or you just don't like hearing it? Feel free to try googling the effects of gender stereotypes on intergender or non conforming children.
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I saw them too and if I had a child that was riding a bike I would of purchased one.
I did. The pump broke on day one. The lock cable feels like soft plastic, little or no wire. The bottle-holder has no straps - how many kids bikes have bidon mounts !? And the bottle has a hard nipple that will soon be chewed.
yeah, the $2 got me, but its landfill.
A neg for K-Mart sexism,
You obviously don't have kids. Girls especially, from a certain age, start to strongly identify with feminine things - pink, fairies, princess. they dress up. The details may be arbitrary, but the love of a girly colour is innate.
We parents get a bit sick of this love for anything pink, and hope the phase will pass. But do not make the mistake of thinking this comes from the parents or society. (though it could be a different colour or marker in a different time of place.) Little girls have a very strong girl-herd instinct.
wrong on many counts. Have kid, and it is proven to be society teaching these stereotypes and that they should be different - kids who dont get told they should be different don't need to be.
As you note, gender difference has been denoted by all sorts of different things in different cultures in different places and times. Humans look for community, people who they can feel common to, in a society in which the first thing we identify a person by is binary gender, and where gender and colours (and hair) are SO strongly associated, of course they quickly learn this is a primary way to fit in.
kids who dont get told they should be different don't need to be.
Are you seriously saying that gender difference and identity is a social construct!?
OK, so you have a kid. Try spending time at play-group or helping at kindy and discover how absurd that notion is.
Are you seriously saying they haven't been taught about gender roles by then? They havent learn about boy and girl the same way they learnt to walk? They don't know about racism either unless they are taught to.
try reading some of the many volumes of research on the matter just about ALL of which supports gender ROLES as societal construct, along with the importance we assign to gender.
One thing which makes it PAINFULLY obvious is how they TELL who is a boy or a girl - it is how we have told them to - how they dress and their haircut. Until puberty a boy taught they are a girl will generally go along with it (as has happened to SO many intersex kids mutilated near birth) and find out otherwise. Some may know they are the other gender inside - but not by what they are supposed to wear or what colour they like.
Another thing that makes it painfully obvious is that the roles have changed over time, even over very short times like the liberal 20s (where girls had short hair) followed by ww2, the conservative reaction of the 50s and the gender revolution of the 60s. Not that long ago a mans long hear was a measure of his virility!
They havent learn about boy and girl the same way they learnt to walk?
Exactly. It is innate. you don't teach them to walk, they just do it.
They don't know about racism either unless they are taught to.
Another good example. These same kids who are overly gender-conscious are completely blind to race. They are not really aware of race, let alone racism. (At least not the kids where I am.)
Kids who dont see people walk dont learn to walk. (proven)
Kids who see racism learn racism.
Kids who see gender distinction learn gender distinction. If you ask most what the difference is, unless they have been specifically taught about genitals they are going to say it is what they wear.
When kids are young for the most part we do not teach, they learn by copying.
Virtually all of it is societal. We are extremely adaptable - very little of our behavior is genetic unlike so many animals.
And to be clear, nothing wrong with a girl liking pink, but nothing wrong with a boy liking pink either - In fact many men do, but only gay men are allowed to say so because of the gender stereotype, to the extent that it has become symbolic for being gay.
There is definitely nothing about a Y chromosome that makes you not like pink.
Your 'good example' proved MY point - where you are racism is discouraged and the gender divide is strong, and that is what you see in the kids, it is what the learn. Kids of white supremacists know well about racism.
Kmart & others have different sections for mens/boys and women/girls clothing.
Think of a plain old hoodie, 1 for each sex.
Maybe you could rally out side for the rights to blend clothing, so men who dress like women, or women who dress like men dont feel out of place when buying their said hoodies.
Thank F**k for The Hut
Thank you for pointing out yet more of the gender construct
"men who dress like women, or women who dress like men"
Except that the entire idea of what either dress like is a societal construct and utterly different from society to society. Men in our society for some reason aren't allowed anything skirt or dress like, unlike most cultures. It is a huge pointer to just how important we see gender as in identifying a person that we assign completely different garments and colours to make it easier to tell.
On a whole people actually become offended if others do not follow these norms. Even to the point of extreme violence. A man's kaftan is seen as only for women here.
The gender roles and styles are utterly arbitrary. In some cultures it is offensive for women to cook. Bright colours are for warriors. Long hair is a sign of virility.
It is pure societal construct, and does nothing but limit us ALL, and harm those 1 in 50 or so who dont fit into one of the 2.
That's all good and well, but what does this specifically have to do with k-mart that other retailers don't do as well?
It has to do with THIS PRODUCT ffs
My god will you ever stop…
Sadly you get what you pay for in this case. I've seen these.