The price is really value with 4 years onsite service. bought 1 unit for my sister and another one for my self, the CPU is upgradeable. the only problem is the system doesn't come with DVDRW. overal price is cheap tho for brand new desktop pc
$299 Lenovo Desktop System from Onlinecomputer
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Pmochi on 01/04/2009 - 14:06 onlinecomputer.com.au (2414 clicks)
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With the 4 year warranty, it's a great deal.
You can get an optical drive separate from under $30 easily without even hunting for a bargain, or use it sans drive.
Direct link: http://www.onlinecomputer.com.au/product_info.php?products_i…
And I strongly suggest people add an extra 2GB of RAM for $45 if you want OLC to install it or just grab it for under $30 from your local computer store and install it yourself. Uunless you're planning on downgrading to XP or running Linux or something, Vista loves it's RAM.
Postage to Vic is pretty reasonalbe ($23) compared with Shipping Squared (pun intended)!!!
Very tempted. Just curious about the conditions on the warranty. I got the impression that for these branded computer the condition for the warranty is that you can not open it and do modifications, e.g. install an extra RAM, HDD etc. But I might be wrong on this.
Unless you or the parts you install cause obvious damage to the computer when doing so they are not legally allowed to void warranty if you do this.
Some poor whitebox companies do this, but last I checked none of the big brand names did and if you could be bothered taking it up with Fair Trading or maybe a small claims court then you'd probably win against the whitebox company.
Not correct … a friend recently bought a HP machine and on the case (where you would open to put in new HDD or graphics card etc) had a void if broken sticker (pretty professional one) which stated void if broken.
Hadnt seen one before now…
They've been around for over a decade, and I've never had a warranty issue when it's been broken.
A negative vote on a PC for $299 because it has no monitor included?
This has no bearing on whether or not this is a bargain. Also the same seller has new LCD's available from $99!
http://www.onlinecomputer.com.au/product_info.php?products_i…
I'm giving a positive just to counter act this.$299 for a desktop system. It also doesnt include a scanner - is that worth complaining about?
'+' vote for me.
yeah, no blu ray drive either
negative
No GTX295, no deal.
Lacks ephemeral super cognitive flexi symbiosis suit.
Not a bargain.
Would be very tempted if I can pay less WITHOUT the Windows Vista Home Basic.
looks good. Celeron 1.6 - is it really slow compare to P4 or others? anyway, +
I'd be guessing but I assume it's faster than most P4's based on the fact it's a dual core and using a better architechture. I don't have any numbers to back that up.
It won't be blistering fast but I think it's ample for what your paying and at least as a work/office machine it should be pretty capable.
I wrote my Atom comment below before this, but it's a similar situation on a different scale.
This is a Core 2 based Celeron, not the old Celeron D's. Celeron D's (not standing for Dual, just indicating it's based on the P4 Prescott architecture) were horrible because the Prescott architecture performance was quite cache dependent, and they were P4's with cut down cache's.
The Core 2 architecture, while gaining benefits from cache, doesn't fall in a deep black hole of crummy bottlenecked performance when it's cache is limited so it only performs 5-20% worse than it's fully cached Core 2 GHz equivalent.
However due to it's low MHz and cache, it's probably about the equivalent of a Pentium D 2.0-2.4GHz. Due to the horrible naming system of Intel, the D in this case DOES mean dual core but it's still of the old Prescott/Cedar-Mill design.
is it going to be faster than an atom based eepc?
first of all I'm going to assume you mean the eeebox, the desktop equivilant to the eeepc…
in any case, yes - the 1.6GHz speed is dual core (I'm pretty sure…) so the speed would be better…
personally, I believe people would be better off going to their local pc store and getting a fairly basic computer built for them, or even building one themselves if they want a computer for general use…
reasons for this
- no CD/DVD drive on this one
- pretty bad specs for running vista
- not nearly as much bang for your buck with this one
well I think you may struggle to build one for $300, especially if you want any form of "bang"
I'd say itd probably run Win7/Vista ok even if you possibly have to disable Aero.
As for the lack of DVD…not a big issue since they cost about $30 anyway. I assume the case can actually take one. I still think it's a good MS Office + Web pc for light task.
Interesting thought.
Let's see how it stands up to the maths.
From MSY, generally considered one of if not the cheapest on average retailers in Aus:
ASUS P5KPL-CM $78
1G-800 Kingston $20
Seagate SATA 80G $53
Cel E1400 $71 (E1200 is discontinued)
OEM MS 32 bit Vista Home Basic $137
-no case as there's no comparative small form mATX case-
Total $359That's without a case and PSU. For a decent quality one you'd be looking at a bare minimum of $80-$100 more just to get it on par with this PC. Without being built (you'd have to put the parts together yourself or pay the likes of MSY ~$70-$120 to build it for you). And without a 4 year warranty.
Yeah, I can see downsides to this deal, but bang for buck isn't one of them.
The Atom 330 (dual core 1.6GHz) would still be about x2-x3 slower than the Celeron E1200 1.6GHz in CPU heavy tasks. The Atom N270 (single core 1.6GHz) which is one of the most common of the Atom processors would be x3-x5 slower - it's about the same as an old Celeron 900MHz from 2003/4.
Gigahertz is important, but architecture is king. The atom is designed to use as little power as possible and to do so it does less computations per cycle (ie per Hz) than normal CPUs.
If you check any CPU benchmarks of the Atom line you'll see this quite plainly (e.g. http://www.guru3d.com/article/ecs-atom-330-dual-core-p945gc-…).
Why is life so complicated? What does it all mean? How many little old grannies know their Prescott/Cedar-Mill from their Core 2 based Celeron?
what's a computer? Can I do away with my exercise book, pencils and calculator? I think not! :)
Nice deal for a new computer.
I'm going to stick with trying to get a Dell GX280 or GX520 from eBay for under $170.
Has similar specs but comes with XP.I want to keep my house Vista Free!
In case anyone else was curious, the actual model number is SFF M57e 9952, there are 2 SATA ports, and there is room for a full size DVD drive. The FDD bay however is for a slimline unit.