Ajinomoto MSG Seasoning 250g $2.79 (Min Order Qty: 2) + Delivery ($0 with Prime/ $59 Spend) @ Amazon AU

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Ajinomoto MSG Seasoning 250g $2.79 (Min Order Qty: 2) + Delivery ($0 with Prime/ $59 Spend) @ Amazon AUAffiliate
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Half the size of this deal if you just want to try it out or keep it in your pantry in smaller quantity.

The last MSG deal I posted, someone complained about being allergic/getting headaches - but it's fairly common in Aussie packaged foods/snacks as 'Flavour Enhancer(s) 621. I won't list all the popular brands here, but use an AI chatbot of your choice with this prompt: "Which popular packaged snacks in Australia have MSG or Flavour Enhancer 621?"

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  • Section2 on 14/04/2025 - 22:40
    +13

    Fuiyohhhhh / 2

  • m9 on 14/04/2025 - 22:42
    +2

    Min order of 2 so it's cheaper to get this

  • milobob on 14/04/2025 - 22:55
    +13

    "Someone complained about being allergic/getting headaches" - worthy to read up on MSG - and how the many myths about it that we know of today was used as a way to minimise the expansion of other food from other cultures.

    • frondono on 14/04/2025 - 23:02
      -4

      It's called chinese restaurant syndrome

    • King Tightarse on 14/04/2025 - 23:06
      -6

      Plenty of people love Chinese food but genuinely react to MSG - some in my family. It's not a myth. Some really do react
      "as a way to minimise the expansion of other food from other cultures." this bit I really don't believe at all, sorry.
      Really doubt there was an organised attempt to minimize other cultures' food due to MSG myths.

      • Shiroi Okami on 14/04/2025 - 23:18
        +28

        Do the people in your family also react to any kind of instant noodles, chips, packet soups, stock, fast food, frozen meals, soy, barbecue, oyster sauce, or gravy powder? What about foods that naturally contain it, like aged cheese, tomatoes, shiitake or enoki mushrooms, seaweed, soy products, meat, fish, green tea, fermented foods, or breast milk?

          • Alcaro on 14/04/2025 - 23:33
            +4

            @jv: It's about hitting a critical mass and exceeding personal tolerances. Nothing to do with it being added or not.

              • CommanderCrumbcake on 15/04/2025 - 06:17
                +14

                @jv: How about scientific facts then?

                Controlled studies show that symptoms like nausea or headaches aren't reproducible under blinded conditions. FSANZ's technical report found no health risks at normal consumption levels: https://www.foodstandards.gov.au/sites/default/files/consume…

                So may I suggest you’re likely dealing with either a placebo response or are regularly consuming highly processed foods with excessive added MSG, which is a separate issue.

                • tenpercent on 15/04/2025 - 07:08

                  @CommanderCrumbcake: Interesting(foodstandards.gov.au)

                  The FASEB evaluation concluded that sufficient evidence exists to indicate some individuals may experience manifestations of CRS when exposed to a ≥3g bolus dose of MSG in the absence of food. In addition, they concluded there may be a small number of unstable asthmatics who respond to doses of 1.5 – 2.5g of MSG in the absence of food.

                  • Wolfenstein98k on 15/04/2025 - 13:54
                    +1

                    @tenpercent: Who consumes that much "in the absence of food"? That amount might be added to a huge wok full of fried rice, but then you need to eat a huge wok full of fried rice, and that will cause reactions in lots of people. That's a huge amount of sodium and insulin.

                    • tenpercent on 15/04/2025 - 13:58
                      +1

                      @Wolfenstein98k: Better question: why do scientists (or people funding scientists) get studies set up in such unrealistic ways so that we can't draw any valid conclusions that reflect how reasonable people might use the ingredient?

                      • Wolfenstein98k on 15/04/2025 - 15:39
                        +2

                        @tenpercent: Well that is an example where they used a massive dose to see if there was a threshold of effect.

                        If 0.1% of people claim to turn blue when they eat vegetables, the only way to really test that is to give your treatment group a massive dose of vegetables and see if any of them turn blue.

                        If they do, then you can conclude that there IS a threshold where vegetable exposure causes Smurfness and it's just a matter of dose and sensitivity.

                        Otherwise, if your sample only captures 99.5% of people and you give them a normal dose, you would likely miss that 0.1% of people.

        • King Tightarse on 14/04/2025 - 23:55

          @Shiroi Okami Possibly - I don't know, but the thing with allergies and intolerances, they may be easy to ridicule or dismiss by those that don't have them or have never experienced them, when simply compared to their own lived experience of having never reacted.
          I can eat peanuts and peanut butter all day long, but it's a reasonably common allergen for some and can even invoke anaphylaxis in others.

          • CommanderCrumbcake on 15/04/2025 - 06:21
            +9

            @King Tightarse: You're comparing a well-documented, IgE-mediated allergy like peanuts to MSG 'sensitivity', which has repeatedly failed to show consistent effects in blinded trials

            Lived experience matters, but reproducibility matters more

            • TEER3X on 15/04/2025 - 07:12
              +1

              @CommanderCrumbcake:

              Lived experience matters, but reproducibility matters more

              Not to the individual that it actually affects.

              • Wolfenstein98k on 15/04/2025 - 13:55
                +3

                @TEER3X: Except that research can show the individual that it's placebo they're experiencing.

                It matters if you're reacting to Compound X, or if you're just reacting to a perception.

                • TEER3X on 15/04/2025 - 16:46
                  -1

                  @Wolfenstein98k: MSG symptom complex might be a real thing.

                  You would have to assume most people who believe they are sensitive to msg don't go out looking to run experiments on themselves, on a frequent basis anyway.

                  • Wolfenstein98k on 15/04/2025 - 16:49
                    -1

                    @TEER3X: And when they do, it's usually not a blind ABX.

                    People who do these on themselves usually disprove their theory.

      • Etherkai on 15/04/2025 - 05:51
        +1

        Can confirm, my mum is ethnic Chinese and gets pretty badly affected by MSG.

        • tenpercent on 15/04/2025 - 07:04
          +1

          Is she racist against herself? /s

      • loksmack on 15/04/2025 - 09:20
        +5

        My grandmother has been 'alergic' to MSG for years. She has had several medical episodes requiring ambulance etc.

        Funnily enough she was absolutely fine when MSG was added to a non-Asian dish that a relative cooked without my grandmothers knowledge.

      • Wolfenstein98k on 15/04/2025 - 13:52
        +4

        The placebo effect is strong. Some people break out in hives when consuming the sugar pill in a trial, but can eat sugar.

        Does sugar cause hives in some people, or only when it has a name like "sucrose"?

        • King Tightarse on 15/04/2025 - 21:23

          Do you believe that those who claim to be effected by MSG are simply suffering a delusion or some kind of placebo effect?
          Is that your position? If that is your position, PubMed has news for you:
          https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10926854/#:~:text=T….
          From the article:
          'Typically, a dose of MSG of 2.5 g or less causes no symptoms in nonallergic people; larger doses can cause a burning sensation, facial pressure, headache, and drowsiness, but these symptoms usually dissipate within 4 h'

          This confirms, as widely reported, that some people can be allergic and there seems to be a distinct threshold with symptoms appearing in allergic individuals after ingesting three grams or more.

          • Wolfenstein98k on 16/04/2025 - 07:55
            -1

            @King Tightarse: Do you understand how much that is? Most people add a gram, maybe two, MAYBE three, to a pot of food designed for six people.

          • curtturtle on 16/04/2025 - 08:59

            @King Tightarse: I you consumed more that 2.5g of salt in a single hit you could have all those side effects. That is not an allergic reaction is it is a side effect of over consumption. Almost a poisoning as such.

          • HangryCakeStore on 16/04/2025 - 19:58
            -3

            @King Tightarse: Westernised people also have the highest percentage of some made up mental disorders, they’re most diagnosed to have some mental problems and even made up.. just go to the court😂 everyone there has some mental issue causing them break the law.

            • King Tightarse on 16/04/2025 - 20:02
              +1

              @HangryCakeStore: What is this some kind of bizarre racism? Crack at Western people in general?
              Seriously dude. That is not appropriate or accurate.

              • HangryCakeStore on 16/04/2025 - 20:10
                -2

                @King Tightarse: What is not accurate? But you seem to know what I’m talking about, whenever people go to court they all off a sudden have some fake mental disorders to reason their actions?! Stop being ignorant! Ignorance is another form of racism

                • King Tightarse on 16/04/2025 - 20:13
                  +1

                  @HangryCakeStore: I have no idea what you are talking about, nor do you it seems, but I see the general anti-Western bias.
                  If you have some useful facts or statistics to add to the conversation, by all means please do…

                  • HangryCakeStore on 16/04/2025 - 20:19
                    -2

                    @King Tightarse: Your published linked, can be fabricated and paid to be biased. How can you know all the sources randomly searched are completely reliable. Don’t be so sad. I making some my points stand. Negs don’t mean crap, have your forgotten the world of fake news 😂

            • G-rig on 16/04/2025 - 20:09
              +2

              @HangryCakeStore: A lot of people on here are mental 🙄🥱

              • HangryCakeStore on 16/04/2025 - 20:15
                -3

                @G-rig: If u didn’t know it’s hard to prove someone with schizophrenia, half the time that crap is made up, and guess who has highest % of schizophrenia? 😂

                • King Tightarse on 16/04/2025 - 20:18

                  @HangryCakeStore: Facts? Statistics? Published reports? Journal articles? No?
                  Just bizarre ranting then? OK…

                  • HangryCakeStore on 16/04/2025 - 20:21
                    -2

                    @King Tightarse: Don’t cry. I don’t need to point out everything, just need to look around. I making some my points stand. Negs don’t mean crap, have your forgotten the world of fake news 😂

                    • King Tightarse on 16/04/2025 - 20:25

                      @HangryCakeStore: You are right - we don't need annoying facts!
                      Lets just call everything fake news and make bizarre anti Western rants like HangryCakeStore
                      Oh what fun! La la-la la la

                      • HangryCakeStore on 16/04/2025 - 20:29
                        -2

                        @King Tightarse: Poor you , why you acting so small minded. All you got out of my rant was anti western.. while your dumbass also forgot the huge effort western propaganda put into causing xenophobia, why u gotta go around proving westerner were the right ones?

                        • King Tightarse on 16/04/2025 - 20:33
                          +1

                          @HangryCakeStore: First statement in this thread by the troll, HangryCakeStore

                          "Westernised people also have the highest percentage of some made up mental disorders"

                          BTW its not the only thing I got from your statement:
                          I also concluded that you don't know what a journal article is, are are mildly paranoid, possibly delusional and almost certainly poorly educated :)

                          • HangryCakeStore on 16/04/2025 - 20:36
                            -1

                            @King Tightarse: Yeah, read about schizophrenia and being faked. Anyways you also being some sheep troll for western propaganda. Good for you, clap
                            Edit: Your published linked journals, can be fabricated and paid to be biased.
                            Edit: also today in a diverse world, almost any old journal shouldn’t be final fact, since most the old statistics were not conducted by a diverse range of people!!

                • G-rig on 17/04/2025 - 01:32

                  @HangryCakeStore: Sounds like you may do lol.
                  Perhaps link some studies and randomised trials to go with your codswhollop.

        • McCloud on 18/04/2025 - 12:40

          @Wolfenstein, you're trying way too hard mate. Give it a rest.

          • G-rig on 19/04/2025 - 00:06

            @McCloud: Lot of bored sticklers, nerds and sociopaths on here.

    • G-rig on 15/04/2025 - 05:38

      This crap is posted every week or two, same arguments and opinions lol.

      I think the takeaway is to use very sparingly, everyone knows it isn't healthy (mainly high in sodium) and addictive, used in a lot of cheap takeaway and instant noodles etc.

      Better off learning how to cook.

      https://www.ozbargain.com.au/search/node/Ajinomoto%20MSG%20S…

      • Wolfenstein98k on 15/04/2025 - 13:56
        +6

        It's not high in sodium - it supplants sodium. People can easily halve their sodium intake by replacing it with salt + MSG, because MSG is much "stronger" in flavour properties due to the glutamate.

        As a result, less total sodium produced the same flavour outcome.

        • G-rig on 15/04/2025 - 16:41

          most instant food has both though.. and do you think people actually put a pinch in?

          fkn same shit every time these are posted, everyone is acting like it's the first time it's being discussed
          haha

          • Wolfenstein98k on 16/04/2025 - 07:56
            -1

            @G-rig: Yeah, and foods with both have less total sodium than similar foods without. For the same reason expressed above - they'd be TOO salty

            • G-rig on 17/04/2025 - 01:34
              -1

              @Wolfenstein98k: Yes a lot are too salty and that's why people are addicted to salty crunchy snacks which are high in sodium and have flavour enhancers.

    • ToBe on 15/04/2025 - 06:15
      +5

      when I was in school in the early 90s, I can't remember what the discussion was but I said MSG made food taste good. The teacher said sternly to me "MSG kills people". Ironically she smoked.

      • G-rig on 15/04/2025 - 06:44
        +2

        Should have asked her to back that up with some proof.

        Red and processed meat kills people, but you don't see warning signs on those packaged goods. Mostly lifestyle and dietary choices are to blame for people's illness but there are plenty of studies and scientific results around these days - up to the individual if they want to believe them or change.

    • furyou on 17/04/2025 - 13:01
      -1

      Actually many of these myths were propagated by mums who are sick of their kids eating instant noodles instead of their cooking.

      And then there's a small group of racists. But anyway almost every food has someone allergic to it

      • King Tightarse on 17/04/2025 - 17:03
        -1

        Now you are racist if you are allergic to MSG? Ahahaha really, some people will just type anything
        Better not tell this guy then https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/901852#comment-16435812

        • furyou on 17/04/2025 - 18:11
          -1

          Not others, just you. Learn comprehension. You must be a joy to be around, putting words into people's mouth.

          • King Tightarse on 17/04/2025 - 18:16

            @furyou: You must be super fun to be around too :) - you make up random unverified bullshit and call it facts.

            "mums who are sick of their kids eating instant noodles instead of their cooking"

            You do realise that claims require evidence? Or perhaps you were trying to be funny?
            Anyway, total fail on either count but I am sure you are used to that :)

  • Homr on 14/04/2025 - 23:03
    +1

    is this yum yum?

    • TEER3X on 15/04/2025 - 07:12

      Yes.

      I love that guys videos. He's a legend.

  • doogiechap on 14/04/2025 - 23:14
    +3

    Excellent episode of This American Life that addreses the mystery around MSG - truth is stranger than fiction!!
    https://www.thisamericanlife.org/668/transcript

    • marcozmitch on 15/04/2025 - 08:42
      +1

      Any recipes of added flavourings to leave added to it?
      Like roasted seaweed or sesame, dried onions, chilli powder, pepper?
      Version of basic stock powder?
      (likely on-line, but for people to consider…)

      • jv on 15/04/2025 - 09:30

        Any recipes

        Any French recipe…

        • curtturtle on 16/04/2025 - 09:02

          Tomatoes and mushrooms contain glutamate. So yeah French recipes use it.

          • jv on 16/04/2025 - 09:44

            @curtturtle:

            Tomatoes and mushrooms contain glutamate.

            The natural occuring one seems to have no effect on me, only the added artficial one…

            • curtturtle on 16/04/2025 - 15:00
              -2

              @jv: "The human body treats MSG the same as natural glutamate found in food. The body does not distinguish between free glutamate from tomatoes, cheese or mushrooms and the glutamate from MSG added to foods."

              No difference. It is a placebo effect.

              • jv on 16/04/2025 - 15:52
                -1

                @curtturtle:

                The human body treats MSG the same as natural glutamate found in food.

                Obviously not for everyone…

              • jv on 16/04/2025 - 15:52

                @curtturtle:

                It is a placebo effect.

                My GP disagrees with you.

              • G-rig on 16/04/2025 - 16:52
                +1

                @curtturtle: Either way aim for RDI 1600-2300mg sodium per day, or it's not good on the arteries and can cause obesity.

                Eat real food..

  • tenpercent on 15/04/2025 - 07:09
    -6

    No one was allergic to peanut butter back in my day so anyone trying to link it to allergic reactions is a racist /s

    • marcozmitch on 15/04/2025 - 08:52

      Part of the problem is the actual rarity of allergies:

      [Deaths from anaphylaxis, a severe allergic reaction, remain relatively rare, with studies suggesting mortality rates ranging from 0.5 to 5.5 per million population. These deaths are often linked to medications, insect stings, or, less frequently, foods]…

      Which are increasing: experts acknowledging this trend and attributing it to various factors, including environmental changes and lifestyle shift.

      Not sure if tenpercent is referring to this "In Australia, children born to parents who were born in Asia have higher rates of food allergies compared to non-Asian children."

      • tenpercent on 15/04/2025 - 09:13
        -1

        Not sure if tenpercent is referring to this

        No I was not. I don't know where you are even quoting that from.

        I was actually alluding to the usual MSG commentary that goes something like this (sometimes in a different order like it did above)…

        JV: I have reactions to it.
        Other person: No you don't.
        JV: Actually I do.
        Other person: Well you're basically racist for even thinking that MSG might give you headaches or cause any other negative experiences.

        • Crow K on 15/04/2025 - 09:19
          +2

          The best jokes are the ones that require detailed explanations with footnotes/links.

          • tenpercent on 15/04/2025 - 09:38

            @Crow K: Ka kaw.

            I'm happy to provide that service for you.

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