I'm on the hunt for a flat monitor/s for the home setup with some casual gaming and thought this may be a good deal. I don't know anything about specs.
Currently advertised at GG for $229, but Price Beat(en) Bing Lee at $187.
I'm on the hunt for a flat monitor/s for the home setup with some casual gaming and thought this may be a good deal. I don't know anything about specs.
Currently advertised at GG for $229, but Price Beat(en) Bing Lee at $187.
Just to add, I didn't even see that the panel was VA, which is awful.
IPS is the way to go and I honestly would not waste a single dollar more to get 4K 27" over 1440p 27". As mentioned it's a total waste of processing power.
https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/886448 this deal that jasswolf linked is a good par price for those specs.
@duckduckering any ideas on what 24 inch 240hz 1080 monitors to consider? I was looking closely at this viewsonic XG2431 240hz, it’s IPS but still price seems a bit $$ ($390ish)? https://www.viewsonic.com/au/products/lcd/XG2431
I would say that is absolutely not worth the money, especially since you can pick up an IPS 180Hz for less than half price.
It kind of seems like the 24/1080 size is being slowly abandoned by monitor manufacturers, for good reason I guess it's just not that popular anymore.
If you're set on 1080p, which would be understandable if your PC was limited, then pick up a 180hz at $150ish like this MSI https://www.pccasegear.com/products/65257/msi-g255f-fhd-180h….
I don't have much experience beyond 165hz, but I highly doubt that going from 180hz to 240hz is worth more than double the asking price.
The strength of the Viewsonic is it is a very well tuned panel for a clearer image at 240Hz, but that's for an older IPS make.
I would disregard IPS LCD if you're chasing high refresh rate technology, and instead look at going straight to things like 360Hz, and 500/540 Hz utilising OLED/QD-OLED or TN. There's something to be said for QHD 240Hz Samsung VA tech, but I'd imagine decent deals are few and far between now that the model is a bit older (don't pay more than $500).
QHD 360Hz QD-OLED will start popping up for well under $700 regularly this year, and perhaps start sliding down below $500 later in the year.
How about 32 inch 2k? Would the pixels very obvious. I am thinking of either getting a regular 32 inch (2k or 4k) or ultra wide 34 (seems 2k only).
According to a PPI calculator, 1440p at 32" would be the same pixel ratio as 1080p at 24", which is about 90 ppi. So definitely not as obvious as 1080p 27".
That being said, I've tried a whole bunch and I personally strongly prefer a PPI of around 109, which is the 1440p/27" or 1440p ultrawide 34". It handles 100% scaling on windows the best (in my opinion.) If you're doing any sort of work or non-gaming related tasks the extra screen real estate is superb.
Ultimately it's all up to the eye of the beholder. When trying new tech I generally try to purchase on an eBay store with the eBay plus free returns for any reason as a safety net. You don't really know unless you try. Some places will charge you a restocking fee but if you've ordered with a % off voucher it'll come out of eBays end. Underrated service.
I never had ultrawide before, would like to try it. 34 2k was on my top list, can't afford OLED, will just go VA. I don't play fps games at all. Hope the wide screen will improve AAA game experience.
@ce5himm: I would aim for IPS over VA if possible. The viewing angles on VA are noticeably worse, which isn't exactly great for an ultra wide. Unless it's curved, there will be noticeably off-parts in your peripheral vision.
I have an IPS ultrawide, it's fantastic. OLED for monitors are still in relatively early stages, you'd be buying to beta test essentially.
@duckduckering: I barely see any ips ultrawide, mostly VA or OLED. Do you mind share which model is yours ? Oh I was looking at curved 34 inch. Which are mostly VA. I will do some research about 34 flat ultrawide ips monitor. Thanks
@ce5himm: Oh that's a shame, I just had a bit of a look and IPS are much scarcer now.
I managed to snag the Philips 345M2R in this ripper deal: https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/774480, which I've since given to my wife after upgrading.
I am personally driving the Acer XR383CUR P, which is 38" ultra-wide. Same pixel density just a little bit bigger real estate which greatly helps my use case.
I tried VA in 2019 and hated it, it may very well have improved since then so might be worth trying if you have a return route.
@duckduckering: in general i do hate va like everyone does. the reality is either go with va or pay double or triple to get an ips or oled which i wouldn't.
OLED for monitors are still in relatively early stages, you'd be buying to beta test essentially.
We're on 4th gen OLED panels at this point, so no.
These devices are being intentionally constrained in terms of peak and total brightness while TVs surge forward, despite both panels having the most energy efficient technology, so there's clear planning and direction.
@jasswolf: Hence the word relatively.
They're in the "bugs mostly ironed out but still insanely expensive" stage. In some cases it is much cheaper to just buy a small OLED TV as a monitor instead (not a bad option, honestly.)
Burn in can still be a problem, depending on the model and your use case.
I agree they are the future though. I expect I'll inevitably own one. I have an OLED TV and nothing comes close to it's panel beauty.
@duckduckering: A 42" or 48" OLED TV is locked at 120Hz-165Hz (2025 models have reached the latter) and has notably higher input lag, even in game/PC mode compared to the higher refresh options.
I'm not asking for your advice, I'm genuinely critiquing it. When on sale for $900-$1100 a TV like that is a great alternative to a monitor array - or even an ultrawide - though.
42" 4K would meet your pixel density requirements, but have notable text fringing.
I'm not asking for your advice
I can tell.
The gentleman said he couldn't afford OLED, so why would I lambast him with the greatness of OLED?
@duckduckering: Wasn't even covering that, and also said person hasn't offered a budget.
you mean too few pixels?
Even 4k at 27-32 is a waste imo
It's diminishing returns, but it's not a waste of time and will help reduce eye strain. You'll gain benefits up to about 20" 8K, but current graphics technology is only just getting there now at a decent refresh rate, with a few caveats.
We should start seeing some genuine 8K monitor options next year, but OLED and similar self-emissive tech will be what the market will wait for.
It's flat, but it's also a sluggish VA panel with little to no tuning done on it.
One quick click of some of the categories you've tagged, and you'll see you can get a 4K 60Hz or QHD 180Hz monitors around this price, with better overall/relative responsiveness and colour accuracy out of the box, both flat and IPS, which is going to work out better for general usage at this price point.
This isn't a deal at $187.
Thanks for the input guys!
Just some further notes: this seems like the basis for a forum post, not a deal post.
If you're using this as a PC monitor I would strongly recommend against. 1080p at 27" is just too little pixels—a night and day difference in your screen real estate when compared to 1440p. Even gaming can give screen door effect sitting that close to the monitor.
For console, or couch gaming, this monitor is totally fine.
Optimal pixel density ratio is:
24" for 1080p
27" for 1440p
Even 4k at 27-32 is a waste imo. Waste of graphics power when the difference visual fidelity is minuscule. I have tried multiple times and returned the monitor every time.