TP-Link Deco X50 AX3000 Whole Home Mesh Wi-Fi 6 System (3-Pack)
I've been keeping an eye on this units for my house, its got some good reviews online. I don't think its an all time low but its a good price.
I was able to price beat it at Officeworks by 5% $270.75.
I think the XE75 would be better but the Minister of Finance, at home only gave me a budget of $300 xD
XE75 is on sale for $530…. double the price…oops
https://www.amazon.com.au/hz/wishlist/ls/N247ZOMSLATK?ref_=w…
$445 on good guys commercial if you have access
@BarryBargain88: The Amazon product is the Pro version, and inlcudes 2.5G ethernet port on each unit. TGGC version is just the regular version (with 3x 1G ethernet ports), and is on back order until Jan21.
This one or Google Nest Home Pro gang?
I initially looked into the Google systems but from what I've read and heard from friends, they all complained about disconnecting from the wifi too often. FYI this was the older version, not sure with the new pro ones.
Yeh I have the older version of Google mesh and it goes offline the mesh too often, I have to plug and unplug every few days. I ordered those from thegoodguys but out of stock. Waiting on mine to arrive.
The only thing I'll miss is that the older version has speakers built in so good from when someone rings the door bell.
These are far superior to the google system. They are very unimpressive units
I have with the majority of the installations I’ve done migrated users across to these or similar
Close to a month and got disconnected once without auto reconnecting. Manually restarted a couple of times to get back to work. Other than that, okay so far. But the speed drops a lot from just 2-room away and I have to lift all the units higher to get ~300Mbps. Gonna try to move the main node to the centre and see if I can get ~500 and I'd be happy.
Google Nest Pro has been rock solid for me. Not once has it caused a problem. Best mesh router I have purchased to date. Not sure why it gets so many complaints.
Agreed
FYI.. these are dual band and I was told to pay a little extra and get a tri band. Not sure if that helps..
Yep, wouldn't touch a dual band router anymore.
Not much of an issue with wired backhaul
Bought these earlier in the year and they work well in my single-level 140m2 house
What speeds do you get? I’m on 1000/40 and see max 300 mbps when connected to satellite, when forcefully connected to main unit, I get 700-800mbps
I'm on Fixed Wireless, so my pleb speeds are no use to you :-)
Is this common with all mesh units? I only upgraded to 250 fttp recently and realised my secondary units (Deco M4) were much slower. Moving them slightly closer to the main unit increased the speed immensely.
No. If you can wire the backhaul, or get a triband (like the XE75) that has a dedicated (or shared, if you so choose) frequency for backhaul, the satellites will be much faster.
@Xizor: Thanks! I don't think the ethernet backhaul is practical for my setup so will look into upgrading to tri-band
@Chickenleg: Can also highly recommend a tri-band setup. For a long time I had the Deco XE75s. Now I'm running Deco BE65s. Pricier, definitely, but they are wifi 7, which is the way of the future. Wifi 6E, though, is supported by many devices already. Not only will you have a third band for the wireless backhaul, it also opens up the 6Ghz band for clients. I am running 2x BE65s in a single-story apartment, and when my clients connect to the 6Ghz band, it is faster, much faster, than when they are connected to the 5Ghz band. The range is shorter, yes, but it is also much less congested.
Either way, the tri-band setup will speed things up for you, I'm sure! I am able to get full gigabit speeds (in Melbourne on HFC) throughout my entire apartment, regardless of whether I'm connected to satellite or not, it was similar with the XE75s. It is all running via wireless backhaul, the walls are double brick, and so it's not that feasible to have a fully wired setup. However - wifi 7 brings advantages now and will bring more (hopefully) in the future.
For example, my iPhone 16 Pro supports wifi 7. What that means is that it is able to connect to an "MLO" network ("multi-link operation"). My understanding is that the phone can then use all three bands at once, rather than connecting only to e.g. the 6Ghz or 5Ghz band. For a phone… not really needed at the moment. But as time goes by, more and more computers and devices will support MLO networks, and that could - in theory - make a big difference for speeds and latency.
Wifi 7 - once fully ratified, and when supported - offers much faster speeds than even wifi 6E, better latency, and better efficiency. TLDR: the Deco XE75s are more than good enough for the time being, but the e.g. Deco BE65s are wifi 7 and that really does future-proof them. However, for now, they are expensive ($650 or so for two units), but may come down in price. From memory, both the XE75s and BE65s are available via Good Guys Commercial (which you can quite easily access through e.g. the Australian Retirement Trust - signing up took me around half an hour, and I don't think you need to actually put super into it, at least, you didn't need to).
Using these in an old house with incredibly thick walls and provides good coverage. Interestingly the iPhone app struggled to detect the nodes, while the Android app was instant.
Have a look at the Mercusys Halo H80X AX3000 3 pack on Amazon for $174
Similar specs and a subsidiary of TP Link
Do they have a tri-band version?
Unsure but don't think so
Oh didn't see those
Thanks, we are moving next week to a very long house with obstructions so I grabbed a set of these. Great price!
I got the 2 pack of them about a month ago. Have had no issues so far. Upgraded from the Deco M5s
I bought these and they were terrible at penetrating through my brick/thick walls. Mercusys Halo H50g AC1900 2 pack gave me better coverage and stable speeds throughout my house and granny flat then the 3 pack. Anyone with these issues should consider using WiFi 5 as their signals penetrate through walls better.
Looking for a simple yet reliable router for my NBN connection as mine seems to be heading towards the grave. I currently use a range extender too. Any thoughts?
Switch to mesh you’ll thank me later.
Is this much of an upgrade on the M5?
Also keen to know if there's any noticeable differences
I certainly hope so going by my experiece with the M5… pretty much all apps on my phone fail to have connection when the phone is using the M5 wifi. All fine on non-M5 wifi. Laptop works fine via the M5 wifi.
I've tried a couple things, no luck, I want to just get rid of them and get something else.
AU dollars gonna drop further so
Got ASUS ZenWiFi XD4S AX1800 WiFi 6 Mesh Router (3 Pack) from Amazon (currently $239) a few months ago, only 2 are required for our 2 story house. Quite impressed actually.
I bought a Deco X20 to set up for someone else. It requires a TP-Link account to set up; I'm not sure why. Keep that in mind if you care about your privacy.
I assume it would be the same for this version.
I got the ax1800 on amazon a few days ago, was about to get the ax3000, but not worth the 100 extra as i only have nbn 100.
Link to product:
https://www.amazon.com.au/dp/B084KJF5DJ?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_f…
Do you connect these to the NBN box or modem/router?
NBN box if fttp, if fttn then modem.
What about FTTC?
Straight into the nbn box.
Do you just let the Deco app do its work and set it up? I just had fttp installed last week but the tech plugged mine back into the modem/router and I don’t want to mess it up lol
Yeah you need to configure the right settings for your ISP.
Who is your ISP?
Is the other modem/router provided by your ISP?
Do you use a home phone or 4G failover?
@Twix: Yep it was supplied by TPG for my old FTTC connection and still with TPG. No phone or anything else plugged in so it's NBN wall box thingy to modem and my main Deco (now changed to access point) plugged into that. Although… everything is working fine at the moment, should i just leave it be? I was just thinking to reduce the clutter.
@Chickenleg: Your current setup is how you configure things if you used a TPG home phone.
Nah you don't need the TPG modem/router. I'll send instructions later on how to configure the Deco to the nbn NTD box.
@Chickenleg: Follow these steps.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-12-19/us-mulls-banning-tp-l…
Quite possibly they will be banned in Australia. TP link have poor security updates. Just read up about them before purchasing.
https://www.reddit.com/r/homelab/comments/13el7fv/is_it_safe…
Yes I would avoid as 5 eyes got TP-Link to be linked to hacking groups and many vulnerabilities
I’m afraid this applies to all China-made network devices. Under China’s National Intelligence Law, all citizens and companies are required to cooperate with intelligence activities.
from what I read, at the same time Netgear has 2-3 times more security risk than TPlink
I think the difference being Netgear is actively patching and TP-link isnt?
No, the main difference is as per OzHan above. He is accurate and whoever negged him has no idea. The CCP are incredibly nefarious and get up to a lot more shaningans than are made public (its genius albeit at our expense, exploiting the ever increasing feableness of western society). I've worked in major telco's over 20 years and have some very very limited inside perspective from that, all i can say is assume the worst and act accordingly. That's not to say dont buy, TP Link make some brilliant consumer products and i own some, but buy eyes open.
For this example above, what i recall that was made public was a link was established between TPLink routers and certain large scale cyber attacks. Basically certain exploits intentionally left available for hackers who were using as part of the broader orchastration of large scale cyber attacks. As for banning, i think at a government and enterprise level it is a prudent thing to do and should have been done years ago. And not just TPLink. To not take measures to limit risk to critical infrastructure and services from a partner actively seeking to undermine and compromise you is just idiotic.
At a consumer level however i think it's a bit more complex. Not least of all because so many consumer products across brands have high number of vulnerabilities, unreliable updates, unreliable resolution times, are used for so long that in of itself becomes the liability, heck people not even changing default passwords etc. Unless they released more information i dont think banning consumer TPLink products achieves a huge amount but who knows when it comes to beaurocrats. They can take years to act on something serious, but when its in their interest can act in a matter of days as we saw with the ham fisting social ban for U16s (which not really about that, its about making the rest of us prove we over 16, enjoy where that rabbit hole leads).
It’s hard not to be sceptical that some of this could be anti-China sentiment from the US since TP-Link has so much market share, when other brands have many more vulnerabilities.
Im sure some of it is. But one does not negate the other factors. We would all be a lot better off if they would release more information to justify talk of consumer bans.
Why is TP-Link getting so much marketshare? Quality wise I would always prefer Ubiquiti, Asus, Google Nest and Amazon Eeero for home residential
Heck even Synology now has routers not just NAS
Their mesh systems are good, affordable and based on my research, more reliable than Eero and Nest. Ubiquiti would be nice but $$$
@Randolph Duke: I think you mean their Deco series. True they are bang for buck but not sure if they are really reliable and secure.
I'm using the current Telstra modem (with landline). Can anyone see any issues integrating this mesh system into my Telstra set up?
Follow these steps to use the Telstra home phone and TP-Link Deco for your Wi-Fi.
I have the unify gateway connected to nbn which gives internet to my tp link decos.
This way main traffic and firewall rules etc are all handled by unify.
Not the most secure but a good compromise with price/performance.
This or the eero 6 (3 pack) that's going for $249, both seems to be wifi 6 mesh system?
Eeroo for sure longer supportability under Amazon
All this talk about vulnerability and privacy, it is just a joke. There is a divide in this world between two war factions led by the US and China on each side. There is a lot talk about Russia/China hacking activities, but it would be foolish thinking that the other side was not doing the same surveillance or data mining on all the data that conglomerate company such as Google, Amazon and Apple hold on every world citizen. So, whether you buy Google nest, Eeero, Huawei, TP-Link or any other product you forfeited your privacy already. More often than not, economic sanctions are used as weapons. The idea that there is a free market, it is just a myth. I stopped worrying about all of this years ago. That does not mean I don't care protecting my personal information from low scums but I can't be worry too much if government actors do or not what they are alleged doing. The pace in which technology is changing, any decision the US will make in future, whatever equipment you will buying today will be then obsolete anyway and you will need to buy a new one.
I've just picked this up and set it up at home, setup was pretty simple. Interested to see what kind of difference i get with wifi performance for working from home days as our office was quite a ways away from the router and through some brick walls.
How do these compare to the XE75 Pro Mesh?